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post Jul 22 2007, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Jul 22 2007, 02:17 PM)
Dell SE198WFP is TN panel? are you sure? hmm.gif Is that really bad if the lcd using TN panel? damn, there's no Dell showroom nearby my area, wanna go look myself.. doh.gif
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AFAIK, 6-bit panel is TN panel, but i'm not too sure though. hmm.gif

TN panel is not that bad, its just the restricted viewing angle and not so great colors display.

There's no Dell showroom in Malaysia, maybe in some computer shop got sell Dell LCD.

This post has been edited by ckkean: Jul 22 2007, 04:41 PM
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post Jul 22 2007, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jul 22 2007, 02:29 PM)
is there any Dell showroom? hmm.gif

SE198WFP, Dell stated that as "entry model" means its using TN panel.

TN panel is just fine for the rest of us, just they have lesser color dynamic range and poorer viewing angle, but it really is just fine for the rest of us biggrin.gif

Only if u re those photographer that using DSLR, then IPS or MVA panels suits you better.

but IPS/MVA panel has longer response time, which is not so good for gamers.
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i'm just being sarcastic.. of coz there's no Dell showroom at Malaysia except during PCFair. tongue.gif

about "entry model", Dell stated E207WFP and E228WFP as entry model not SE198WFP. Do u noticed entry model started with "E"? That's why i'm curious whether SE198WFP use cheap panel or not... hmm.gif

correct me if i'm wrong.. still learning to get the best value for my money... i'm a cheapskate.. laugh.gif
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post Jul 22 2007, 09:56 PM

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Well, AFAIK, Viewnet have Dell's LCD for sale. Maybe you could have a look there..
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post Jul 22 2007, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(akachester @ Jul 22 2007, 09:56 PM)
Well, AFAIK, Viewnet have Dell's LCD for sale. Maybe you could have a look there..
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they have but no display set.
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post Jul 22 2007, 10:05 PM

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HDCP monitor allows u to display HD resolution....but it depends on ur monitor it can display which 1....for 22" can display 720p and 24" can display full HD 1080p but also depends and the monitor also some cant......im using it for my ps3 and it works really fine smile.gif
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post Jul 22 2007, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Jul 22 2007, 09:09 PM)
i'm just being sarcastic.. of coz there's no Dell showroom at Malaysia except during PCFair. tongue.gif

about "entry model", Dell stated E207WFP and E228WFP as entry model not SE198WFP. Do u noticed entry model started with "E"? That's why i'm curious whether SE198WFP use cheap panel or not... hmm.gif

correct me if i'm wrong.. still learning to get the best value for my money... i'm a cheapskate.. laugh.gif
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hello... its common sense, 198WFP is sold at rm6xx, at that price point its definitely a TN panel either made by LG, samsung, or taiwanese brands.
compare with their 2007WFP Ultrasharp, which is sold at rm1k++, which is even more expensive than 22" E228WFP, than for sure the Ultrasharp is using more expensive PVS or other non-TN panel.
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post Jul 22 2007, 10:14 PM

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TN panel or not, my E228WFP is serving me fine as off now..LOL..Just hoping it have potrait viewing angle only..LOL..
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post Jul 22 2007, 10:34 PM

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Viewnet has Dell displays but their policy seems really weird. They will take your order, then, they'll order from Dell. They didn't specify whether they have it in stock, so I'm not sure whether you can pay and get it right at that moment over the counter. You probably have to wait, I don't know...The salesgirl was adamantly mum about that trade secret...She did mentioned that they will buy from Dell with cash. My theory is that they have friends in Dell that could buy the displays at staff price and then sell it to the public. I could be wrong. The display is registered under their name, and you get warranty from Viewnet, 3 years as advertised by Dell. Thing is, the display is registered under their name, they sell the display more expensive than Dell, and when you send your display for repairs or warranty claim, you will have to leave the display with Viewnet and they will ask Dell to come to their shop to repair...not sure they will charge you extra or not. Might as well buy straight from Dell, ain't it?

Now, got a question...can you buy directly from Dell's booth at PC Fair? Meaning you pay and get it right at that moment...I never asked them before...anyone has any idea?
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Jul 22 2007, 10:34 PM)
Now, got a question...can you buy directly from Dell's booth at PC Fair? Meaning you pay and get it right at that moment...I never asked them before...anyone has any idea?
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this question has beed asked before. from what i know, dell doesn't accept cash. they need a cheque or bank slip. besides that, it's not cash and carry. u just pay money (not in cash) in pc fair, and wait for the delivery to your house like normal. that was last time. i'm not sure about today. besides that, dell plans to sell their tuff on retail like acer, hp. maybe they'll change the method of purchasing.
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post Jul 22 2007, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(clayclws @ Jul 22 2007, 10:34 PM)
Viewnet has Dell displays but their policy seems really weird. They will take your order, then, they'll order from Dell. They didn't specify whether they have it in stock, so I'm not sure whether you can pay and get it right at that moment over the counter. You probably have to wait, I don't know...The salesgirl was adamantly mum about that trade secret...She did mentioned that they will buy from Dell with cash. My theory is that they have friends in Dell that could buy the displays at staff price and then sell it to the public. I could be wrong. The display is registered under their name, and you get warranty from Viewnet, 3 years as advertised by Dell. Thing is, the display is registered under their name, they sell the display more expensive than Dell, and when you send your display for repairs or warranty claim, you will have to leave the display with Viewnet and they will ask Dell to come to their shop to repair...not sure they will charge you extra or not. Might as well buy straight from Dell, ain't it?

Now, got a question...can you buy directly from Dell's booth at PC Fair? Meaning you pay and get it right at that moment...I never asked them before...anyone has any idea?
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their price is following Dell's website price, eg they changed E228WFP price in accordance with Dell's promotion. If sell more expensive, who's gonna buy from them?

about the warranty, they did recommend me to go to their shop should any RMA claims during the first year, after the 1st year, its either u call Dell urself or ask viewnet to help in RMA claim.

And not sure whether we must register our product in order to enjoy warranty? I think just with the LCD itself, with a valid serial number, Dell will know when the warranty will end... this one pls correct me if i wrong unsure.gif
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post Jul 22 2007, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jul 22 2007, 10:06 PM)
hello... its common sense, 198WFP is sold at rm6xx, at that price point its definitely a TN panel either made by LG, samsung, or taiwanese brands.
compare with their 2007WFP Ultrasharp, which is sold at rm1k++, which is even more expensive than 22" E228WFP, than for sure the Ultrasharp is using more expensive PVS or other non-TN panel.
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Yup. I also can't understand why are people so fussy on high-quality LCD but with dirt cheap price. For me a TN panel is good enough for me for a reasonable cheap price.

QUOTE(akachester @ Jul 22 2007, 10:14 PM)
TN panel or not, my E228WFP is serving me fine as off now..LOL..Just hoping it have potrait viewing angle only..LOL..
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I do enjoy my E228WFP too. Good LCD at a good price. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jul 22 2007, 11:05 PM)
their price is following Dell's website price, eg they changed E228WFP price in accordance with Dell's promotion. If sell more expensive, who's gonna buy from them?

about the warranty, they did recommend me to go to their shop should any RMA claims during the first year, after the 1st year, its either u call Dell urself or ask viewnet to help in RMA claim.

And not sure whether we must register our product in order to enjoy warranty? I think just with the LCD itself, with a valid serial number, Dell will know when the warranty will end... this one pls correct me if i wrong unsure.gif
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Well, at best, try to clarify with Dell first before making any purchase. If the serial number is valid with Dell, then i suppose you can have warranty directly with Dell. In any case, i dont think Dell cares who are the owner of the LCD when they make a replacement. I got my LCD exchanged even though i bought it under the name of my cousin. Just make sure the warranty is valid directly with Dell and it should be fine..Clarified this with Dell last time and they told me the same thing. Refurbished or not, direct from Dell or not - these are the questions they told me to clarify with the shop first before making any purchase...
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post Jul 22 2007, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jul 22 2007, 11:05 PM)
their price is following Dell's website price, eg they changed E228WFP price in accordance with Dell's promotion. If sell more expensive, who's gonna buy from them?

about the warranty, they did recommend me to go to their shop should any RMA claims during the first year, after the 1st year, its either u call Dell urself or ask viewnet to help in RMA claim.

And not sure whether we must register our product in order to enjoy warranty? I think just with the LCD itself, with a valid serial number, Dell will know when the warranty will end... this one pls correct me if i wrong unsure.gif
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Hmm...You are right. I was looking specifically at Dell 2407WFP-HC, of which, Dell sells at RM1899 while Viewnet is selling it for RM1999. When I asked, the salesgirl said there is service charge, and thus, the higher price.

Here are the price differentiation as of 21st July 2007:
Name Viewnet Dell Difference
E177FP RM589 n/a unknown
1708FP RM629 RM669 CHEAPER
E197FP RM639 n/a unknown
SE198WFP RM629 RM629 SAME
SP1908FP RM699 n/a unknown
E228WFP RM849 RM849 SAME
2407WFP RM1999 RM1899 MORE EXPENSIVE

Anyone bought their Dell display from Viewnet?
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post Jul 23 2007, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(clayclws @ Jul 22 2007, 11:45 PM)
Hmm...You are right. I was looking specifically at Dell 2407WFP-HC, of which, Dell sells at RM1899 while Viewnet is selling it for RM1999. When I asked, the salesgirl said there is service charge, and thus, the higher price.

Here are the price differentiation as of 21st July 2007:
Name Viewnet Dell Difference
E177FP RM589 n/a unknown
1708FP RM629 RM669 CHEAPER
E197FP RM639 n/a unknown
SE198WFP RM629 RM629 SAME
SP1908FP RM699 n/a unknown
E228WFP RM849 RM849 SAME
2407WFP RM1999 RM1899 MORE EXPENSIVE

Anyone bought their Dell display from Viewnet?
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You can buy Dell monitors at Viewnet LYP?
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post Jul 23 2007, 02:58 AM

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Yeah. You can check out their price list on the main Lowyat.net page.
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QUOTE(Swaye @ Jul 23 2007, 01:16 AM)
You can buy Dell monitors at Viewnet LYP?
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Yes, Viewnet have them for sale but not sure they have display units or not..
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post Jul 23 2007, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(akachester @ Jul 23 2007, 08:31 AM)
Yes, Viewnet have them for sale but not sure they have display units or not..
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If Viewnet got no Dell LCD on display, why go buy from there? Some more the 2407WFP is more expensive in Viewnet. hmm.gif
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The reason people buy from DELL is because their policy is to eliminate the middleman and thus FACTORY -----> CONSUMER.

Why buy from Viewnet when you can buy directly and it is MISB from DELL factory?
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QUOTE(ckkean @ Jul 23 2007, 09:42 AM)
If Viewnet got no Dell LCD on display, why go buy from there? Some more the 2407WFP is more expensive in Viewnet.  hmm.gif
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Because they wanna pay cash? LOL..Anyway, i do not know whether they have display unit or not though but some people here say they dont.. smile.gif
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The 2407WFP-HC supports CompactFlash type I/II Card, MicroDrive, Smart Media Card, Memory Stick Card, Memory Stick Pro Card, Memory Stick Duo (with Adapter), Secure Digital Card, MultiMedia Card, Mini Secure Digital. Thought I'd post it here in case someone was wondering.

My damn Olympus camera uses xd picture card though. sad.gif

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