Std sony warranty. Unless extended warranty with hm add 3 years.

Thanks for the reply. I might increase my budget to buy 65 inch. Is KD-65X7000F a good buy for its price ( RM 3800 ) or is there other i should look for?

This is my first 4k TV, do tv nowadays upscale well with Astro content? Im really concern about this.

1080p should be still quite watchable on a 65 inches 4k screen , 1080p bluray quality videos look almost passable as 4k . 720p on the other hand , may look a little blurry despite most of the big brands TVs come with a good upscaling capability.

Streaming SD content (480p or lower ) is simply too blurry to watch , because the streaming video quality ( bitrate ) is way lower than the source files .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 4 2018, 10:28 PM

samsung - 55" nu7400 rm3k (lazada) rm3461(shop)
dynamic crystal colour
my view : contrast very bright, colour wash out

philips 55" put6102s rm2,299 (lazada) rm2799 (desa home)
micro dimming
desa home salesman demo 4k video for me on LG, Samsung, Philips.
colour very natural, not over saturated.

sony 55" x85f
triluminos colour
my view : very well balance TV but high price.

lg 55" uk75
nano cell
my view : i find it less contrast.

I'm using LG C8 currently.

Plan to buy led tv for parents.
they often watch aDrama snooze off. tv remain On. so Oled is not recommended.

some how i'm impress by philips's natural colour, black level & read about software micro dimming but no hdr. i can see object in very dark scene and not too expose in bright areas.
the smart tv features is crappy, slow, i'm will be using tv box. so focus more on picture quality.

nu7400 was my first choice due to HDR+ & contrast before i tested philips.
anyone own philips tv here? can advise?


samsung - 55" nu7400 (VA) rm3k (lazada) rm3461(shop)
reason : dynamic crystal colour
my view : contrast very bright which i like but colour & bright area sometimes wash out. motion rate is poor.

philips 55" put6102s (IPS) rm2,299 (lazada) rm2799 (desa home)
reason : micro dimming
desa home salesman demo 4k video for me on LG, Samsung, Philips.
My view : colour very natural, not over saturated.

sony 55" x85f rm4.8k (lazada) rm5,399 (senheng)
reason : triluminos colour . lower model x70 & x75 none.
my view : very well balance TV but high price.

lg 55" uk75 (IPS) rm3,999
reason : nano cell
my view : colour ok, i find it less contrast

This post has been edited by szecheng: Nov 4 2018, 11:20 PM

How can you tell the picture quality of the TVs from the store ?

Desa home do not calibrate their TV under the same settings AFAIK.
Dynamic / Vivid mode from one TV isn't going to look exactly the same on another as well . The same reason why you are not recommended to use the white balance settings from the review sites.

Especially when displays in shop are usually in their most inaccurate modes , whites are overly blue , colors are oversaturated . This is apparently the most effective way to impress the customers . Without the proper knowledge and equipment , it is impossible to determine the true capabilities of the said TV.

I have heard of shops ( not Desa Home) that were hard at work pushing the sales of a certain brand , intentionally changing the setting of other TV to dimmer mode , while the "star brand" of the month are displayed in the center with dynamic contrast maxed out to steal the spotlight.


Conclusion , what you can see in the shop is fairly limited . You can look at the TV designs , the anti-reflection coatings , the viewing angles , anything but the picture quality .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 5 2018, 08:32 PM

you got your point.
so which TV satisfied you within your budget now. please share

If you are buying TV for your parent , they most probably don't watch enough HDR for the HDR-related features to really matter ( primarily the Nano cell , the Triluminous colors , the Dynamic crystal colors ).


Speaking from experience , the older generation seems to like the LG 's magic remote much more so than other TV remotes .
The LG 'S webOS is also more user friendly and easier to use compare than the other . The Samsung's Tizen is not too bad , but its smart remote is a step downgrade from the LG's magic remote . The Sony Android OS is sluggish , it's really annoying sometimes it can take up to over 10 seconds + to respond . The Philips Android OS is just as slow as the Sony's.


The micro dimming doesn't do much . It tend to dim some of the brighter highlights on screen because the dimming algorithm isn't very advanced at all . It is very identical with Samsung's so called " UHD " dimming.


As for the different colors , you can only really tell the difference when you are looping HDR demos and comparing them with those high end Quantum-Dots TV from Samsung lines . The LG TV probably isn't the best TV to look for high contrast because it is an IPS TV . If you like how the colors on Philips look as an SDR TV , you can probably adjust the settings of the other 3 TV to look like it since all the other 3 support for a wider color space coverage.


In terms of value and features , the NU7400 is probably the best out of the 4 . But for usability , I would probably go for the LG model . If they often watch a lot of content below 1080p , the Sony might be the better pick .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 6 2018, 09:36 AM

Agreed, lg magic remote, Netflix and YouTube is superb but mostly use tv box.
Either Samsung nu7400 or x85f. My vote for Sony!

senheng new deal really tempting.

sony 49" x7500f @ 2369
samsung 50" nu7400 @ 2299

Hi,

Which 65" 4K HDR TV is better for 4k console gaming and watching sports;

Sony X7000F or Samsung NU-7100?

X7000F.

Or pay a bit more for the NU7400 which can produce better HDR colors .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 6 2018, 01:25 PM

Dear all sifus,
I am relatively noob in regards to 4k. Have been using a Samsung Plasma 3d 51in for past 5 years, but I am planning to get 4k soon, 55in size. Budget is about Rm2k to 3k. What would be your recommendations and any good sale at the moment?

This post has been edited by cmonstar: Nov 6 2018, 01:05 PM

Bro, my budget only around RM4K. NU7400 is out of my reach.

Anyways thanks for your advise.

I have an issue choosing between a 55-inch NU7100 and 50-inch NU7400. Is the difference in picture quality enough to get a smaller size? Price agak agak same.

Bro, can elaborate more on why choosing x7000f better than nu7100?

What about nu8000? Is it comparable to the Sony? Or would it be more comparable to the x750 / x850? It will be in the living room. But 90% of the time we (me and my wife) will be on the sofa directly facing it. Also I noticed the prices in Malaysia are lower than SG. Any idea why?

I actually don't understand what's up with pricing of nu7400 , the 55" is barely 3.2 k but the 65 " is almost double of it .
Especially when the model belongs to one of the basic 4k TV family .


The NU7400 has more smart TV features , such as the smart remote with voice control , cable management , the support of 5ghz WIFI , blue tooth etc etc .
It is also capable of producing HDR colors a bit better than the NU7100 .

Normally I wouldn't suggest paying so much more over the NU7100 , but since you are primarily playing games , the HDR performance should be within your consideration.


Regardless , if you end up paying 5-6k for a 65" TV , might as well get the 65" of NU8000 which is vastly more superior than all of TVs mentioned above.

The 55 inches of NU8000 can also be found at around ~ 4k , possibly lower with all the discount sales on the upcoming 11/11.
It also has a native 100/120hz refresh rate , which will provide a more pleasant experience for watching 24p movies .


NU8000 is superior than any of models mentioned above , especially if we are talking about the performance of HDR.
It is still probably the best mid-range TV you can buy in MY since Sony refuses to release 55/65 inches of X9000F here.

Do take note that the NU8000 is of VA panels ( which has narrow viewing angles ) , thus the best picture quality is only reserved for the seats directly in front of the TV .

Localized pricing isn't exactly new , just like Sony TVs are so much cheaper in China compare to the other region . There are many factors behind it . AFAIK , the SG TV shares many similarities with the MY sets .


First of all , at this price range , one TV isn't definitely better than another. I am simply suggesting a TV that is better suited for your viewing habits .

The primary difference of the two is still the characteristic of VA and IPS screens.
The X7000F is also a bit brighter than NU7100 . My problem with Samsung NU7100 is , their CE dimming always dim the small highlights of the picture which may cause HDR experience to lose some of their impacts . I also find the Sony TV comes packing with better gray uniformity , which is better for watching sports .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 6 2018, 06:13 PM

guys between these two which is better?

my purpose is for astro, ps4, and maybe streaming..

is sony ips black level bad? how about the samsung?

can share what are the advantages one have over the other.

thanks

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.WFRG

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/p-series-2017-p607

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.c...-best-budget-tv

May consider this if 11/11 drop below 2k
Reason full array dimming and wide colour gamut
Question is durability

This post has been edited by szecheng: Nov 6 2018, 09:04 PM