all these paper talks... talk song jiu hao liao lo... in the end the truth is even with mrt 3 or HSR... our public transportation connection still nowhere as near to completion than any other mrt/lrt connected countries... plus our weather... in msia... still have to build alot of park n ride facility... once u have the chance drive out the car... u have a choice already... when u feel the weather is hot or raining heavily... immediately choose to drive the car to your destination and join the jam...

public transportation is important and benefiting if the plan is correct... but currently alot of areas not connected.... alot stations for cronies and party with private benefits.... most of these stations not much ridership somemore... haha

bagi time le bro... LRT first few years also not high volume ma... bukan ke... that time alot ppl still prefer to take bus from their nearby bus stop... until jam getting unbearable... LRT only getting more ridership... last time during primary skul to secondary skul... everyday took public bus to school... the roads during peak hours also not as jam as currently....

Firstly, I use the MRT1 to get to my workplace on a daily basis; 10 minutes walk plus 20 minutes ride plus 10 minutes walk). Before the MRT1 was completed, I had to drive to work, usually for about 1 to 2 hours, depending on the traffic. The daily parking fee is about RM12. After factoring petrol, parking and car maintenance cost, the MRT1 saves me a lot of money and time.

The weather in Malaysia is not a big contributing factor for the low MRT1 ridership. If Singapore can do it, why not us? The crime rate on the streets is my the main concern. Hopefully the new government and police can reduce the crime rate on our streets.

More interchange stations must be built to increase ridership. Without MRT3 circle line or equivalent, MRT1 and MRT2 will not be able to achieve its full potential or ridership and it will likely be a "white elephant" costing the country millions per month.

I don't care if the government reviews or postpones or realigns the MRT3, but please do not cancel it. Emulating the public transport system in more advanced cities in Japan, Korea, Singapore or European countries is the way forward.

yea... this is definitely... in the end what i mean is that... make a plan that benefit the rakyat the most... improve the factors that can contribute to higher ridership... i think its better to not compare ourselves against singapore also... our klang valley now is so messy and unconnected... and there is no control on cars enter to city and also the pricing of cars contributed alot to their success... i dont think the same can be done for klang valley...

but if emulate the mentality of japan or south korea... thats the best way forward for us... their cars still running freely on the roads... but ridership also super high volume... i think this is wad KV should aimed to be....

MRT3 is a regret but not for HSR coz we can take flight from KL to JB or SG with lower cost. Malaysia budget airlines airfare is affordable to travel around peninsular.

Most of the citizens of Malaysia still have the mindset of "owning" car even though they do not need it. One of the top priority wishes of fresh graduate when they enter society is get a job and then "buy car". Those who already have a car to commute to university or college, after graduate they would "upgrade" their level to better car. There are many parents afraid their children find it hard to study, therefore during study time they bought children a car and pay for their petrol and toll as well. Why schooling time they not use to taking pubic transport, after graduate they will definitely won't take public transport.

In fact the public buses are around and cover most of the Klang Valley areas but there are many adults feel "shame" of taking public transport to work especially for male. There are many people who are office based workers do not need to drive to work, when reach office the car is parking at basement till they finish work. I guess at least 50% private cars in Malaysia are under utilized where people are paying a depreciate asset and yet not fully utilize it, which mean it is further loss.

This culture must change and this must start on educate the young generation to take public transport.

I agree that using public transport will definitely save lots of money and also time to travel to work. It is true the crime rate is one of the most concern of people who taking public transport. There is a robbery case where I have a friend his neighbour's daugther die after being attack when she walked out of the train station. Some of the train stations are located in quiet place where during off peak time there were very few people around the station and the walking distance to the nearest bus stop will take 5-10 minutes walk. For example like KTM station Wahyu, Batu Kentonmen, or Batu Caves, during non-peak hour time it feel not safe to walk from outside to the station. Hope the new government will enhance the safety to encourage public to use public transport.

It is true that the MRT3 circle line will help to increase ridership, but with current economy situation the new government may have to delay the project and recover the debt first. Hopefully the MRT3 or equivalent connection between the MRT1 and 2 will resume after couple of years.

While that is true, but that's only part of the reason on why people prefer to use cars over public transport. What about those who don't live and/or work near any LRT/MRT stations? Can you blame them for using their cars to drive to and from work in this situation?

I even read comments from those making comparisons between parking at the Park N'Ride + LRT/MRT and parking at the open carpark and most agree that the latter is the cheaper option. Even better when companies provide some form of subsidy when you park inside the building they're based in. Best will be where carpark is dy provided and you don't need to pay a single cent for it (if you work in the industrial sector, that is).

With the above scenarios, I'm not surprised why they'd rather drive than take the public transport.

Of course, if you live and work near a public transport, then be thankful for that and take advantage of it to skip the peak hour gridlock.

This post has been edited by DesRed: Jun 5 2018, 10:29 AM

In Seoul Korea, the traffic quite bad after the working hours almost same like KL

yeah... but the ridership also very good in their mrt lines... when i travelled there... despite there are jam on the roads... but the mrt still packed like sardine after working hours...

you mean the debts can be recovered in 2 years time? then it's not serious, why cancel the projects?

Coz is not going to hotspot area?

Could be few hotspots still under construction macam trx, warisan merdeka and etc. also resi building waiting to complete and waiting to mature.
when you have the new infra ready and running. still need another 3 to 5 years at least to let the things get closer to it. people will slowly realize and start to move around it. Or move unintentionally. Coz suddenly Macam commi office also near to it. Started to have more opportunities. Ini Macam magnet.

Or the ticket price is too expensive?

Maybe need to increase petrol price lagi more, in china, to them petrol price in malasiao is like heaven and dirt cheap.
maybe make car even lagi more expensive to own

Anywhere it is still way cheaper than own a car. When you need to take care, mantainance fee, road tax and installment.

Or it is not as convenience as using LRT?

LRT manyak long establish liao. klcc also can go. manyak resi, commi buildings already builded and mature liao.
last time low ridership also wait for township mature and wait the commi to move nearer.
Some places already mature long ago but due to delay of LRT 2 construction manyak wait till neck long for another transport option.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Jun 5 2018, 02:51 PM

when driving takes only 30~40 minutes compared to public transport taking 2 hours 1 way (or more) or requiring driving halfway to office just to 'park n ride' (and still requiring 1hour 45mins time on train), why bother.

yes park n ride + train is cheaper, but at what expense?

If lucky no serious jam. If Jam like hell? Construction or accidents? Save you from the chances get into accident on the road? You can do other things while on train? Get a rest?

From where to where take 2 hours?

i travel off-peak. there are multiple highways in between, pick the one that's least congested or just work from home

yes, you can rest in the train and definitely less chance for accident, but not too much on doing other things except reading. it's a choice between 30~40 (or 50 in really bad days) minutes drive versus 1.45 hours (not taking into account traveling time to/from train station) tho


really would love to be able to ride lrt/mrt to work tbh

KTM Shah Alam to MRT BU

Do you ever read news? The fund was officially started to prevent fraud by unscrupulous people, accepting the donations.

Many people wanted to help the country directly. Let them be. At least they are more patriotic than you.

and also this movement to collect funds was started by member of the public. so it is not lge or govt asking for public donation.

but the govt did make a good response by giving tax benefit for the donations.

Yalor, sibeh good feel when sitting in mrt1. Manyak canggih. Now wait for mrt 2 siap can have another line reach klcc.

Manyak malaisiao pipu only think for themselves.

Ini macam public transport also good for senior citizen or blind or disability pipu or single pregnant mom. Can let them less depend on other pipu, see other pipu muka song or not. Have more places to go. More option and safer for them on the journey.


Also help reduce carbon and can have Better environment for you and your anak cucu

Want build more hospital also need to find root cause. Macam road accidents, obesity, smoking, drinking, unhealthy life style, unclean environment and etc. if not start from there.. no matter how many hospitals and beds also not enough. At the end Lagi waste money.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Jun 5 2018, 03:37 PM

Can breakdown the journey ? How u take?

Oh, take KTM to Sentral , walk to Muzium station to take MRT 1 to BU.. I see