MRT is actually good if your home & working place is directly link.. I mean station just next door only.....
But the main complaints is needed to walk far... Park & ride... Etc.
MRT 3 Canceled. HSR Canceled.
MRT 3 Canceled. HSR Canceled.
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Jun 5 2018, 05:25 PM
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MRT is actually good if your home & working place is directly link.. I mean station just next door only.....
But the main complaints is needed to walk far... Park & ride... Etc. |
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Jun 5 2018, 09:47 PM
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The convenience of MRT can only be fully optimized by having a very good bus transport system. Else reaching only the MRT station is not attractive enough to improve ridership. We need to improve the bus services first so that we can reach each and every corner of KV.
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Jun 5 2018, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(raw7118 @ Jun 5 2018, 09:47 PM) The convenience of MRT can only be fully optimized by having a very good bus transport system. Else reaching only the MRT station is not attractive enough to improve ridership. We need to improve the bus services first so that we can reach each and every corner of KV. Buses nowadays are unlike mini bus decades ago. Those mentality n working attitude of hoping to work onli 3.5 days with 3.6k starting salary ll onli drag us further backward. No chansi to move forward at all. Btw v r oledi 20yrs behind time ya.It's OK. Not to worry too much as malaisial is so darn rich til bank couldn't afford to keep anymore money tat v hav to keep cashi in condo. |
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Jun 5 2018, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 5 2018, 05:25 PM) MRT is actually good if your home & working place is directly link.. I mean station just next door only..... Boss if we hav a cool dry weather of around 20°c all yr long I really dun mind to walk or cycle to work or meet client.But the main complaints is needed to walk far... Park & ride... Etc. Btw our pedestrian walkway n cycling lanes r champion quality. Onli Eskimo has the privilege to hav used the beta ones. |
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Jun 5 2018, 09:58 PM
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Or we can just opt to cycle to work ^^
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Jun 6 2018, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jun 5 2018, 09:53 PM) Buses nowadays are unlike mini bus decades ago. Those mentality n working attitude of hoping to work onli 3.5 days with 3.6k starting salary ll onli drag us further backward. No chansi to move forward at all. Btw v r oledi 20yrs behind time ya. I didn't know such mentality exist in M'sia. Thought that the 4 working days/week proposed by workers unions in some European countries are dy stretching it. It's OK. Not to worry too much as malaisial is so darn rich til bank couldn't afford to keep anymore money tat v hav to keep cashi in condo. QUOTE(jimmyng @ Jun 5 2018, 09:58 PM) That's a good idea, if the pavements/sidewalks are constructed and maintained properly, but based on my experience driving around KL city, I sometimes see them badly maintained and there are roads where you'll see none at all, forcing you to cycle on the road.Then you also have to factor in the rain. |
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Jun 6 2018, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jun 5 2018, 09:56 PM) Boss if we hav a cool dry weather of around 20°c all yr long I really dun mind to walk or cycle to work or meet client. true.. the weather in our country.. and especially in KL really not conducive...Btw our pedestrian walkway n cycling lanes r champion quality. Onli Eskimo has the privilege to hav used the beta ones. the walkways is also not every friendly.. the authorities didn't actually plan it extensively... just sake of build & songlap the $$$ |
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Jun 6 2018, 05:04 PM
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Finance minister: HSR can be much cheaper
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/fina...so-much-cheaper |
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Jun 7 2018, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 6 2018, 12:49 PM) true.. the weather in our country.. and especially in KL really not conducive... What r the main reasons our MRT ridership can't meet the target? the walkways is also not every friendly.. the authorities didn't actually plan it extensively... just sake of build & songlap the $$$ Fares too expensive? Station build at the wrong location? Not convenient at all? Travel time too long due to lack of interchange station(MRT3 Cicrleline)? Interchange station badly design, walk too far? Ticket machines not user friendly? |
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Jun 7 2018, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(King Gor @ Jun 7 2018, 11:31 AM) What r the main reasons our MRT ridership can't meet the target? Fares too expensive?Fares too expensive? Station build at the wrong location? Not convenient at all? Travel time too long due to lack of interchange station(MRT3 Cicrleline)? Interchange station badly design, walk too far? Ticket machines not user friendly? Still cheaper than own a car. (After included tax, service and tyre, spare parts issue and change) Station build at the wrong location? If some Station wrong then need to wait for the surrounding development come up and the commi move around it. Sometime immature surrounding easy to take for development for mrt project than the already mature surrounding. Cheaper land cost Not convenient at all? Wait wait liao, lrt take more than 5 years to what it is today. Travel time too long due to lack of interchange station(MRT3 Cicrleline)? Memang panjang. Can’t very from the other end to another end. But Safe you from jam and accidents and parking. Still can interchange with other lrt Ktm monorail and soon mrt 2... can also interchange with grab and bus geh or take oBike if ok to ride. Interchange station badly design, walk too far? Some yes quite far, lucky mostly covered walkway, some even got air-con, may need walkalator. But hey Walk and exercise abit lor. Keep fit mah. Ticket machines not user friendly? Don’t buy ticket if can. Use tng lor got x% discount some more. Cheaper than buy ticket. If frequent use. Also save time from q-Ing buy ticket during peak. This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Jun 7 2018, 02:22 PM |
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Jun 7 2018, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(King Gor @ Jun 7 2018, 10:31 AM) What r the main reasons our MRT ridership can't meet the target? Fares too expensive?Fares too expensive? Station build at the wrong location? Not convenient at all? Travel time too long due to lack of interchange station(MRT3 Cicrleline)? Interchange station badly design, walk too far? Ticket machines not user friendly? Try to reduce the fares half year monitor the ridership got improve or not, if got improve mean the fares too expensive for passengers Station build at the wrong location? You mean next to some of the vacant land? That's the purpose boost the land value earn back and cover the MRT construction cost in oversea Not convenient at all? Yes, without MRT3 even worst..hang halfway now, need to travel further and more time to change train Travel time too long due to lack of interchange station(MRT3 Cicrleline)? This is for sure Interchange station badly design, walk too far? Can't name any good interchange station here, KL Sentral and Pasar Seni both also failed...interchange station not just MRT itself, must be a bus insterchange as well, sing land got many good examples Ticket machines not user friendly? Heard you cannot choose the station from the map, must type the name, take more time to buy the token This post has been edited by planc: Jun 7 2018, 02:42 PM |
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Jun 7 2018, 03:28 PM
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wah... still discussin on this ah? footstop and this thread should be closed and re-activate if there's further revive of HSR and MRT3...
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Jun 7 2018, 04:36 PM
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well for one..
HSR really have impact.. why? because many are at lost... they bought land around the HSR station, to flip later on.. all gone now |
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Jun 7 2018, 05:03 PM
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Jun 7 2018, 06:27 PM
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Jun 7 2018, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(planc @ Jun 7 2018, 02:41 PM) Fares too expensive? wakaka.... LRT also no circle line also doing ok ler. Try to reduce the fares half year monitor the ridership got improve or not, if got improve mean the fares too expensive for passengers Station build at the wrong location? You mean next to some of the vacant land? That's the purpose boost the land value earn back and cover the MRT construction cost in oversea Not convenient at all? Yes, without MRT3 even worst..hang halfway now, need to travel further and more time to change train Travel time too long due to lack of interchange station(MRT3 Cicrleline)? This is for sure Interchange station badly design, walk too far? Can't name any good interchange station here, KL Sentral and Pasar Seni both also failed...interchange station not just MRT itself, must be a bus insterchange as well, sing land got many good examples Ticket machines not user friendly? Heard you cannot choose the station from the map, must type the name, take more time to buy the token pipu (especially for rental pipu) will slowly start to shift to a place which more convenience for them to take mrt/lrt/ktm to work or study and choose the place no need take too long for interchange geh. If public transport line and system can't change.. just change sendiri punya way to work and stay liao. This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Jun 7 2018, 06:44 PM |
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Jun 7 2018, 06:50 PM
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You only need one good reason to take train and not 10 reasons why you dun take
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QUOTE(King Gor @ Jun 7 2018, 11:31 AM) What r the main reasons our MRT ridership can't meet the target? not yet met the ridership due to incomplete network ie mrt2 & mrt3Fares too expensive? Station build at the wrong location? Not convenient at all? Travel time too long due to lack of interchange station(MRT3 Cicrleline)? Interchange station badly design, walk too far? Ticket machines not user friendly? |
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Jun 7 2018, 07:33 PM
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does this mean iskandar properties won't do well while those in JB city centre will appreciate?
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Jun 7 2018, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jun 6 2018, 12:29 PM) I didn't know such mentality exist in M'sia. Thought that the 4 working days/week proposed by workers unions in some European countries are dy stretching it. Well we can have a roof installed at the pavement, with solar panels installed That's a good idea, if the pavements/sidewalks are constructed and maintained properly, but based on my experience driving around KL city, I sometimes see them badly maintained and there are roads where you'll see none at all, forcing you to cycle on the road. Then you also have to factor in the rain. |
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