If you have to topup that much then you have quite a bad leak imo. The thicker 5w40 just reduce the amount of leak vs the 5w30. Unless u fix the main issues which is the leak the amount of oil u need to top up will just increase as the leak become worse.

Oh... didn't knew about blue smoke. Early morning start did see smoke from the exhaust but how to determine white or blue smoke?

I read the manual and it was stated necessary to top up 800-1000ml for every 1000km. Even my usual mechanic (this car was sent for servicing to my dad's trusted mechanic) said its normal for merc needing oil top up every now and then when I asked him. He even told me that it's worse because it's a V6 engine.

The online seller is not a friend of mine and hence I've no personal interest to help/protect him, I concur with his statement above as it is indeed valid as both their blending plants are NOT the same one at the same location.

I'm guessing the online is euro (legal) parallel imports, otherwise the seller would kena sued left, right and centre by none other than local Petronas marketing division.

This post has been edited by zeng: Nov 19 2023, 11:39 AM

Bro, that is hardened piston valve seals lah.

Personally I don't think petronas MY will do anything. They had nothing to gain from it. Consumers buy counterfeit and suffer. Besides its so hard to go after these without evidence unless you have evidence, confiscate their shipment at port. You don't even know if these are shipped in from another country in barrels and being packed locally. I had the 5w30 and 5w40 with the hologram seal. Both smelled the same.

Just comparing the flow of my 5w40 bought from mesra and Vanli is already a red flag. I don't think there should be a difference in viscosity.

You would be surprised by how easy it is to get away with sell counterfeit goods, especially counterfeit / fake engine oil. I know someone who is doing this kinda business and he told me even the police cannot take action against them (only Malaysia custom and Ministry of Domestic Trade can). Also, it is very difficult to charge them in criminal court so most of the time it will be charged in civil court but since the cost of charging them by Petronas is very high and not effective to stop counterfeit engine oil, engine oil producers probably won't even bother.

To have the mentality of "something exist in the market, hence it must be real" is too naive and assumptive.

If vanli sold fake Petronas engine oil online from KL, not only the GM Petronas in charge will lose his 'prestigious' job, I'm afraid the CEO marketing would lose his job as well if ignoring prevailing advice from downline.

Heck, a GM (or director in charge) of a sdn bhd would have lost his job as well.... unless Board of Directos give specific written black and white statement allowing what's happening to go on, unpunished.

Board of Directors also have a boss in shareholders to report to.

Note: Do one notice colours of a specific engine oil 'model' from a specific blending plant (say, Petornas malacca/Paka) differs ......... from different batches or production dates???

This post has been edited by zeng: Nov 19 2023, 01:55 PM

Why would vanli selling fake oil have to do with Petronas GM losing his job? In this world, there are lots of fake. Do Samsung goes after China sellers slapping Samsung stickers on fake SSD? Do LV go after counterfeit bag producers?

Businesses had enough with consumers. They will do their best to educate consumers about buying from authorized shop, using certain features such as hologram or authentication card. Do they care if someone got scammed? Probably not. They are welll aware of their target customers, and people who fell for counterfeit usually wanted to buy goods at super cheap price.

I personally messaged Vanli and asked about hologram seal but they laugh it off saying impossible to open the cap to look at the seal. Then when I finally bought it, then only they admit it's different but pedal back saying I can't use color to judge the authenticity of the oil. This is just basically taichi. They could just be honest about telling me that they are selling imported oil and I wouldn't even consider buying it in the first place.

As for why I bought from them, that's because their price is very close to the legit seller from Shopee. The shopee seller at RM199 while Vanli at RM179 (before double 11 discount). Also because Vanli is a spare parts dealer that I bought from before.



This post has been edited by andrekua2: Nov 19 2023, 04:19 PM

always buy from official store thru shopee , original and peace of mind

Nahh
That's condensates

Need to have the engine/oil heat up till temp
And then have someone press the throttle abit
If got white smoke + sweet smell = coolant
If bluish tint smoke = engine oil

So imported oil = fake oil ??????

Who knows... It could be anything... But I doubt it's genuine oil from Petronas.

Vanli is not a newbie in automotive parts market. They knew very well what they were selling. So why push my question away by saying never open a bottle before. After I shared my findings, then only admit not the same thing but different region have different blend. So why not straightaway told me it's imported oil when I specifically ask about the hologram seal. You want to defend them, go ahead. I had my reason I wanted this specific oil.

This post has been edited by andrekua2: Nov 20 2023, 01:06 AM

You should just stick to buying from official mall stores.
Better yet, go petrol station and buy. Guaranteed 100% genuine.

I buy all my oil from mall. I'll skip preferred sellers.

This post has been edited by Icehart: Nov 20 2023, 02:34 AM

Well, it is because of the amount of oil that was being poured when I started driving the car about 2 months ago. I even wondered why they even need a oil change when you literally had just new oil when you pour about 1L for every 1000KM. If the interval is 10k, I would have poured 10L of brand new engine oil which exceed the original amount of oil used during an interval service which is between 7-8L.

Which online shop has ori Honda or Petronas EO for my civic ?

Looking for 0w20 fully synthetic

Buy from Official Petronas Store in Shopee Mall

shopee.com.my/petronas.os

Petronas Syntium 7000 0W-20

https://shopee.com.my/Honda-Engine-Oil-Full...27-c644eee7cfea

trusted and reputable seller

For honda oils,Shinan/Hinan frm lzd n shpee

Another year, another purchase of petronas 5w40.

Left vanli (end of 2023), Shopee (center), Mesra (right mid 2023).

At this point, I have totally given up on buying legit engine oil online. Vanli is cheap about RM13x, this shopee one RM155, Mesra 284. Plastic bottle seems harder, not as soft as Vanli. Sticker design almost like Mesra, without QR.


Havent open the foil to see if there's any difference to Vanli. Only mesra foil has hologram. Shopee seller claimed new packaging no hologram.

This post has been edited by andrekua2: Jan 31 2024, 03:27 PM


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