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post May 12 2019, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Star_knight79 @ May 8 2019, 06:39 PM)
I'm eyeing on the new Onyx

with 9750H and 2070 Max-Q.

Not sure if the heat management is alright? For those who has been using this laptop for a year, do you like this notebook?

Any serious unsolved issue?

I would appreciate any realistic comment. Thank you.
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If I were you, I just buy the Selenite if you want an RTX 2070 which is not Max-Q variant. RTX Max-Q variants are a rip off by Nvidia. It is not that much faster than RTX 2060. Very minimal improvement for a whole lot of money.
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Undervolted my 8750h to -0.15mV. Pretty stable temps at approx 85-90 deg C during gaming. Anyone went lower than this on their 8750h?

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QUOTE(k!nex @ May 12 2019, 01:22 PM)
If I were you, I just buy the Selenite if you want an RTX 2070 which is not Max-Q variant. RTX Max-Q variants are a rip off by Nvidia. It is not that much faster than RTX 2060. Very minimal improvement for a whole lot of money.
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Thanks k!nex. I agreed. After doing some research, I think RTX 2060 is of better value for money. I don't like Selenite due to its size and bulkiness. I don't do a lot of gaming, but I would like to do more on content creation like Adobe illustrator, video editing. (I'm not sure how much will an RTX 2060 help in video rendering). In fact, Asus Zenbook Pro 15 is also on my list. But I don't quite like it mainly due to its bulkiness and thick display bezel.
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QUOTE(Star_knight79 @ May 13 2019, 10:37 AM)
Thanks k!nex. I agreed. After doing some research, I think RTX 2060 is of better value for money. I don't like Selenite due to its size and bulkiness. I don't do a lot of gaming, but I would like to do more on content creation like Adobe illustrator, video editing. (I'm not sure how much will an RTX 2060 help in video rendering). In fact, Asus Zenbook Pro 15 is also on my list. But I don't quite like it mainly due to its bulkiness and thick display bezel.
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For content creators the Selenite is definitely better. 15 inch is a tad too small for video editing which is what i feel. 17 inch screen in a 15 inch chassis is really nice. You should go to their showroom and view yourself . Better temps than Onyx also bcoz of 1 extra heatpipe. I can get 14.9k firestrike overall score with an RTX2060 Onyx , the RTX2070 Max-Q wont do much difference than mine. Thats why not worth the extra money.
Asus notebook if you buy the Scar II or Zephyrus is good, the rest like meh.. plus you have to be aware of their shit quality aftersales service. I had nightmare with their service center at lowyat plaza last time. I will never buy another Asus notebook or phone.

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QUOTE(k!nex @ May 13 2019, 12:40 PM)
For content creators the Selenite is definitely better. 15 inch is a tad too small for video editing which is what i feel. 17 inch screen in a 15 inch chassis is really nice. You should go to their showroom and view yourself . Better temps than Onyx also bcoz of 1 extra heatpipe. I can get 14.9k firestrike overall score with an RTX2060 Onyx , the RTX2070 Max-Q wont do much difference than mine. Thats why not worth the extra money.
Asus notebook if you buy the Scar II or Zephyrus is good, the rest like meh.. plus you have to be aware of their shit quality aftersales service. I had nightmare with their service center at lowyat plaza last time. I will never buy another Asus notebook or phone.
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Kinex, you using selenite?? I’m still hunting for a gaming/photo edit laptop. Is selentite good?
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QUOTE(k!nex @ May 13 2019, 12:40 PM)
For content creators the Selenite is definitely better. 15 inch is a tad too small for video editing which is what i feel. 17 inch screen in a 15 inch chassis is really nice. You should go to their showroom and view yourself . Better temps than Onyx also bcoz of 1 extra heatpipe. I can get 14.9k firestrike overall score with an RTX2060 Onyx , the RTX2070 Max-Q wont do much difference than mine. Thats why not worth the extra money.
Asus notebook if you buy the Scar II or Zephyrus is good, the rest like meh.. plus you have to be aware of their shit quality aftersales service. I had nightmare with their service center at lowyat plaza last time. I will never buy another Asus notebook or phone.
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Yep. I would rather use the money to upgrade RAM. But I still don't like Selenite. Too bulky for me. I need to carry it around. Haha....anyway, thanks for your advice.

Asus Zephyrus model is slim and slick. GTX 1070 model also dropped its price. But many complain both model are running very hot, with Zephyrus slightly better in heat management. Anyway, I think running such a powerful hardware in a small notebook casing is very challenging when dealing with heat management issue. Even Onyx suffers the same fate I suppose.

I heard many people mentioned about the bad aftersales service of Asus and Huawei. How did it affect you? Warranty claim?



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QUOTE(SkyBlue® @ May 13 2019, 12:51 PM)
Kinex, you using selenite?? I’m still hunting for a gaming/photo edit laptop. Is selentite good?
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Nah. Onyx RTX2060 with i7 8750h . I abit regret going for Onyx because the 17 inch screen look so much better for gaming. Plus quite abit better temps. Plus Selenite support Windows Hello face authentication. Onyx dont hv this. Both models no fingerprint reader.

You read ZM Fong's review. I think quite similar to wat i find. The only thing i dont like about Selenite is the all plastic chassis. Onyx whole chassis is metal except the bottom cover.
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QUOTE(Star_knight79 @ May 13 2019, 01:39 PM)
Yep. I would rather use the money to upgrade RAM. But I still don't like Selenite. Too bulky for me. I need to carry it around. Haha....anyway, thanks for your advice.

Asus Zephyrus model is slim and slick. GTX 1070 model also dropped its price. But many complain both model are running very hot, with Zephyrus slightly better in heat management. Anyway, I think running such a powerful hardware in a small notebook casing is very challenging when dealing with heat management issue. Even Onyx suffers the same fate I suppose.

I heard many people mentioned about the bad aftersales service of Asus and Huawei. How did it affect you? Warranty claim?
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Yea.. upgrade RAM is good especially when you are content creator. Or opt for a bigger nvme ssd since they are dirt cheap these days.

I prefer the older Zephyrus since the RTX version has only 1 RAM slot, another 8GB soldered onto the motherboard. I really hate this. Throughout my 10 years working in IT industry , i had so many RAM failures. If soldered RAM kaput, i have to change whole motherboard which is ridiculously expensive. I like its innovative cooling solution though.

Most thin and light laptops like Onyx and Zephyrus has ways to cut power to the CPU to reduce heat and fan noise. The Onyx has office mode which will cut max tdp to 35W if you think the fan is too noisy. If you max out both GPU and CPU running AVX instruction set, the Onyx will hit upwards of 95C on the CPU. Gaming is no issue at all though, it has good temps.

A few years ago i had an Asus A42JC laptop. Motherboard kaput after a year. Sent back for warranty. Took 2 months only come back. Got scratches some more when return to me. I was so pissed and never ever buy an Asus laptop .


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QUOTE(k!nex @ May 13 2019, 06:43 PM)
Nah. Onyx RTX2060 with i7 8750h . I abit regret going for Onyx because the 17 inch screen look so much better for gaming. Plus quite abit better temps.  Plus Selenite support Windows Hello face authentication. Onyx dont hv this. Both models no fingerprint reader.

You read ZM Fong's review. I think quite similar to wat i find. The only thing i dont like about Selenite is the all plastic chassis. Onyx whole chassis is metal except the bottom cover.
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Personally I also like Selenite more. I prefer 17 inch (must have thin bezels) and it has better cooling. I don't think the plastic build is a big issue since the chassis is sturdy. Onyx is also good, but 15 inch thin and light don't have much cooling room.
QUOTE(k!nex @ May 13 2019, 07:04 PM)
I prefer the older Zephyrus since the RTX version has only 1 RAM slot, another 8GB soldered onto the motherboard. I really hate this. Throughout my 10 years working in IT industry , i had so many RAM failures. If soldered RAM kaput, i have to change whole motherboard which is ridiculously expensive. I like its innovative cooling solution though.

Most thin and light laptops like Onyx and Zephyrus has ways to cut power to the CPU to reduce heat and fan noise. The Onyx has office mode which will cut max tdp to 35W if you think the fan is too noisy. If you max out both GPU and CPU running AVX instruction set, the Onyx will hit upwards of 95C on the CPU. Gaming is no issue at all though, it has good temps.

A few years ago i had an Asus A42JC laptop. Motherboard kaput after a year. Sent back for warranty. Took 2 months only come back. Got scratches some more when return to me. I was so pissed and never ever buy an Asus laptop .
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Hmm what do you work?

Personally I don't like Office mode even though it has customizable fan curve which might help to reduce fan noise. IMO the more effective method is reduce clock speed (not disable turbo) with undervolt (or turn down PL1? never tried that before though, probably won't work)

Asus warranty...don't want to comment on this anymore

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 13 2019, 07:27 PM)
Personally I also like Selenite more. I prefer 17 inch (must have thin bezels) and it has better cooling. I don't think the plastic build is a big issue since the chassis is sturdy. Onyx is also good, but 15 inch thin and light don't have much cooling room.

Hmm what do you work?

Personally I don't like Office mode even though it has customizable fan curve which might help to reduce fan noise. IMO the more effective method is reduce clock speed (not disable turbo) with undervolt (or turn down PL1? never tried that before though, probably won't work)

Asus warranty...don't want to comment on this anymore
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Maybe its only me. But the feel of touching a metal chassis does feel more premium to me since these things are not cheap at all. But then i like the Selenite keycap. It looks unique.

I am an IT innovation and technology analyst in education line. The office mode is good to watch movie or just Youtube. I get much better battery life ( 30% battery bar drop per hour at 1080p Youtube with 128mV underclock). That is with a touch of a button. That button is max fan for the GTX Onyx but Office/Gaming mode for RTX Onyx. I know you can fiddle around with XTU but how many clicks do you need to set it. Undervolt do work concurrent with office mode. Plus you have to be aware that starting version 6.5 ,XTU will not work with locked CPU like 8750H or 9750H.

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QUOTE(k!nex @ May 13 2019, 08:58 PM)
Maybe its only me. But the feel of touching a metal chassis does feel more premium to me since these things are not cheap at all. But then i like the Selenite keycap. It looks unique.

I am an IT innovation and technology analyst in education line. The office mode is good to watch movie or just Youtube. I get much better battery life ( 30% battery bar drop per hour at 1080p Youtube with 128mV underclock). That is with a touch of a button. That button is max fan for the GTX Onyx but Office/Gaming mode for RTX Onyx.  I know you can fiddle around with XTU but how many clicks do you need to set it. Undervolt do work concurrent with office mode. Plus you have to be aware that starting version 6.5 ,XTU will not work with locked CPU like 8750H or 9750H.
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Haha I prefer Onyx keycap more. Less wobbling

I always use Throttlestop, XTU is a pain to use IMO.

Perhaps we can have a chat together in future? brows.gif
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any ONYX lite owner or review ?
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Hi, my name is Ryan. I am the new customer service from ILLEGEAR and I will be co-working with Azim, Yvonne, Winn, Steve and Price J. You can ask me any question smile.gif
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Where can i get the latest ILLEGEAR Command Center updates installer as per posted in the FB page just a few minutes ago?

Hope can update mine too drool.gif
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QUOTE(7cantona @ May 13 2019, 11:16 PM)
any ONYX lite owner or review ?
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Just ordered the ONYX Lite last Thursday during 8th Anniversary sales. Heard from the Order Processing Team that they'll deliver it by ~early June as they're waiting for stock to arrive. I had thoughts of an unboxing and quick review/look around video.
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QUOTE(aomerodi @ May 15 2019, 05:31 PM)
I had thoughts of an unboxing and quick review/look around video.
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Why not. User experience/sharing is important. Looking forward to that
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QUOTE(aomerodi @ May 15 2019, 05:31 PM)
Just ordered the ONYX Lite last Thursday during 8th Anniversary sales. Heard from the Order Processing Team that they'll deliver it by ~early June as they're waiting for stock to arrive. I had thoughts of an unboxing and quick review/look around video.
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nice thumbsup.gif looking foward to ur unboxing and review video thumbup.gif rclxms.gif
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Anybody else is having this issue with touchpad?

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QUOTE(fJok3R @ May 16 2019, 08:37 AM)
Anybody else is having this issue with touchpad?

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Hi fJok3R, Good afternoon. I've sent you a pm regarding on your inquiry smile.gif
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Ryan@ILLEGEAR I wanna know if I wanna buy Onyx from your site, how is the instalments works if I opt for 36 months Maybank ?

Do the upfront charges still apply? Thanks

Btw, any promo voucher ?

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