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juzmafia
post Oct 18 2019, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Oct 18 2019, 07:40 AM)
juzmafia already preordered bro?
I wonder if I should wait for controller bundle, assuming there’s a refresh for that as well

I can’t believe they’re still sticking with 16gb storage for base model.
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Nope, not gonna get it..
Even the current Shield is more than enough for me..
There should be a new controller too..
Better wait for official announcement..

This is the Pro model now, the new base model will be the downgraded version with new design.

QUOTE(kskoay @ Oct 18 2019, 02:12 PM)
this based model do not have usb port for local media player?  doh.gif
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Only micro SD usb similar Fire TV Cube 2nd gen..


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post Oct 18 2019, 02:37 PM

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Actually I thought there is micro usb in the picture but not if you look at it carefully. It is "microsd" card slot NOT micro USB port.

QUOTE(juzmafia @ Oct 18 2019, 02:27 PM)
Nope, not gonna get it..
Even the current Shield is more than enough for me..
There should be a new controller too..
Better wait for official announcement..

This is the Pro model now, the new base model will be the downgraded version with new design.
Only micro usb similar Fire TV Cube 2nd gen..
Can use usb to micro usb adapter..
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post Oct 18 2019, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Oct 18 2019, 02:37 PM)
Actually I thought there is micro usb in the picture but not if you look at it carefully. It is "microsd" card slot NOT micro USB port.
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Yup, u r right..😅
My mistake..
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post Oct 18 2019, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Oct 18 2019, 02:27 PM)
Nope, not gonna get it..
Even the current Shield is more than enough for me..
There should be a new controller too..
Better wait for official announcement..

This is the Pro model now, the new base model will be the downgraded version with new design.
Only micro SD usb similar Fire TV Cube 2nd gen..
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Is it really the base model though?
Looks like a completely different product since it’s in dongle form. If that really is though, might as well go for pro

If it’s supposed to compete with fire tv 4k (price wise) then fail already.

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juzmafia
post Oct 18 2019, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Oct 18 2019, 02:57 PM)
Is it really the base model though?
Looks like a completely different product since it’s in dongle form. If that really is though, might as well go for pro

If it’s supposed to compete with fire tv 4k (price wise) then fail already.
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Well it is not a dongle either because there is a HDMI port which means that the device can be placed elsewhere. Furthermore, it has Ethernet port..
This model is better option for traveller but if the estimated price is correct then 'good luck' to Nvidia..

Honestly, I'm disappointed with the new Shield TV coz it's not a future proof device..
No HDMI 2.1, only 16GB storage and no usb 3.1..

If the new features especially AI upscaling & Netflix Atmos is exclusive for the new STV then it will be a very sad news for current users especially those who bought the shield few months back.
Even though there is a way to watch Netflix Atmos on current STV via Kodi, it's not future proof.
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post Oct 18 2019, 07:47 PM

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post Oct 21 2019, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Oct 18 2019, 06:11 PM)
Well it is not a dongle either because there is a HDMI port which means that the device can be placed elsewhere. Furthermore, it has Ethernet port..
This model is better option for traveller but if the estimated price is correct then 'good luck' to Nvidia..

Honestly, I'm disappointed with the new Shield TV coz it's not a future proof device..
No HDMI 2.1, only 16GB storage and no usb 3.1..

If the new features especially AI upscaling & Netflix Atmos is exclusive for the new STV then it will be a very sad news for current users especially those who bought the shield few months back.
Even though there is a way to watch Netflix Atmos on current STV via Kodi,  it's not future proof.
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I'm fairly disappointed too. Seems as if the folks at Nvidia have let things get to their heads. Believing that they can get away with just a minor bump. Guess the wait will have to continue. Sigh.
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post Oct 27 2019, 12:23 AM

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NViDiA teased this ...


...and it's not even official yet but...
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post Oct 28 2019, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Oct 27 2019, 12:23 AM)
NViDiA teased this ...


...and it's not even official yet but...
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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This guy yet to try DV...and looks like it doesn’t support dts-x, I don’t see any option to enable/disable that...only have dts-hd...

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post Oct 28 2019, 12:21 PM

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Setup... AI Enhancement option?
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post Oct 28 2019, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Oct 28 2019, 07:30 AM)
This guy yet to try DV...and looks like it doesn’t support dts-x, I don’t see any option to enable/disable that...only have dts-hd...
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DV & Atmos for Netflix have been tested working, this can confirm that DV single layer is working but for DV dual layer yet to be confirm due to no android app supports DV playback currently.
DTSX passthrough is available..

p/s: u can try direct play DV remux to ur LG Oled TV via plex/xplay..

QUOTE(GuyM @ Oct 28 2019, 12:21 PM)


Setup... AI Enhancement option?
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post Oct 28 2019, 10:32 PM

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It's official now..



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Official Link: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/
Shield TV (8GB): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YP94PBJ/ref=cm...1_77VTDbYJRMV4D
Shield TV Pro (16GB): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YP9FBMM/ref=cm...1_X6VTDbPY9E7NA

Notes:-
1. No VP9 Profile 2 codec so means no HDR for Youtube & Google Play Movie
2. New remote 2019 will work with Shield TV 2015/2017 & also will be sold separately (USD29.99)
3. No Plex Media Server for Shield TV 'Tube' (8GB) but have SMB built-in.
4. AI Upscaling is not supported for content greater than 30 fps
5. Match frame rate only to adjust frame rate not resolution
6. Shield TV 2019 will be able to decode DD+ to DD
7. Some AAA titles and Android games are limited to only Shield TV 2017/2015/2019-Pro
8. New Remote 2019 'Netflix' button able to remap to different command or launch other app
9. Shield TV 'Tube' (8GB) runs on 32-bit mode instead of 64-bit


Here is bad news for Shield TV 2015/2017:-
1. No DV & Atmos(netflix)
2. No Ai Upscaling

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post Oct 29 2019, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Oct 28 2019, 10:32 PM)
It's official now..



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Official Link: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/
Shield TV (8GB): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YP94PBJ/ref=cm...1_77VTDbYJRMV4D
Shield TV Pro (16GB): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YP9FBMM/ref=cm...1_X6VTDbPY9E7NA

Notes:-
1. No VP9 Profile 2 so means no Youtube HDR & Google Play Movies HDR
2. New remote sold separately (29.99USD)
3. No Plex Media Server for Shield TV 'Tube' (8GB)
4. AI Upscaling is not supported for content greater than 30 fps.

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still need confirmation on Dolby Vision support on local play (HDD)

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post Oct 29 2019, 08:44 AM

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Await 11.11 Amazon sales
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post Oct 29 2019, 12:34 PM

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If you expect the new unit will have sales, you must pray very hard.

QUOTE(GuyM @ Oct 29 2019, 08:44 AM)
Await 11.11 Amazon sales
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post Oct 29 2019, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Oct 29 2019, 08:00 AM)
still need confirmation on Dolby Vision support on local play (HDD)
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As per my previous reply, there is no android app that curently support Dolby Vision dual-layer which is required to play DV remuxs from HDD but since u already owned LG Oled TV which support DV dual-layer, u just need to direct play the DV remuxs to ur LG TV via Plex/Xplay.
It is not necessary to have new Shield TV to play DV remuxs on TV that support DV dual-layer.
The only downside is that it is only possible with lossly audio or lossless audio which need to be convert to PCM first.

QUOTE(GuyM @ Oct 29 2019, 08:44 AM)
Await 11.11 Amazon sales
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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Oct 29 2019, 12:34 PM)
If you expect the new unit will have sales, you must pray very hard.
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Most probably there will be Black Friday/Cyber Monday promo starting on 28/11/2019 - 02/12/2019.

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post Oct 29 2019, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Oct 29 2019, 01:05 PM)
As per my previous reply, there is no android app that curently support Dolby Vision dual-layer which is required to play DV remuxs from HDD but since u already owned LG Oled TV which support DV dual-layer, u just need to direct play the DV remuxs to ur LG TV via Plex/Xplay.
It is not necessary to have new Shield TV to play DV remuxs on TV that support DV dual-layer.
The only downside is that it is only possible with lossly audio or lossless audio which need to be convert to PCM first.
Most probably there will be Black Friday/Cyber Monday promo starting on 28/11/2019 - 02/12/2019.
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all my files are in BDMV format (folder), i dont have remux format file...i dont think Plex/xplay can play BDMV blush.gif

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post Oct 29 2019, 03:01 PM

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post Oct 29 2019, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Oct 29 2019, 02:58 PM)
all my files are in BDMV format (folder), i dont have remux format file...i dont think Plex/xplay can play BDMV  blush.gif
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Then u can do ur own remux from the ISO files..
Refer here >> https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php...67e69daaaba075b
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post Oct 29 2019, 03:28 PM

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AI Upscaling is impressive..


..but with some limitations currently..

WHAT IS AI-ENHANCED UPSCALING?
Using the power from the latest NVIDIA Tegra X1+ processor, AI-enhanced upscaling will upscale HD video (720p/1080p) to 4K using the power of AI. For most HD video content on top apps like Netflix and Prime Video, users can expect to see crisper, clearer, video than what is achieved with basic upscaling.

HOW CAN I SEE WHAT AI UPSCALING CAN DO ON SHIELD?
Under the “AI-Upscaling” menu you will find a “Demo Mode” switch. When enabled, you will be able to compare your current “AI-Upscaling” setting to “Basic” upscaling image quality. “Basic” upscaling is a common upscaling method used by previous SHIELD TV devices and many popular streaming devices available today.

- Press the “Settings” button on your SHIELD remote to toggle between Basic and AI-Upscaling

- Hold “Settings” button to compare “Basic” and “AI-Upscaling” side by side


WHAT CONTENT CAN I UPSCALE USING AI?
The AI-Upscaler will work on content that is:
> Resolution: Greater than 480p but less than 4K
> Refresh rate: 30Hz refresh rate or less
> Color space: YUV color space
> Video content (Non-gaming content)

As reference, most non-4K content on Netflix and Prime Video work with AI-upscaling.


WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AI-UPSCALING IS NOT-AVAILABLE
In most cases, SHIELD will fall back to Enhanced upscaling. This is an enhanced quality version of the upscaler compared to the previous generation upscaling.



This post has been edited by juzmafia: Oct 29 2019, 03:40 PM

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