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post Jan 18 2018, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Leo.Lee @ Jan 18 2018, 11:30 AM)
Yes, I have read about estrogen (female hormones) in water. It have cause the wild fish population to have more females by changing males into females. I dunno about the effect of this conditions on human but for fish, many of them have natural ability to change from male to female & vice versa so increase even a little bit of estrogen in water can make their ability to go haywire.

The source of those estrogen (female hormones) are from human urine. I believe all of you should know that most of our drinking water are recycle from our pee water, shit water, wastewater & etc right? They got clean & recycle, usually send back to river & stream before sending back for human usage. Unfortunately, recycle water only clean shit, organic material, rubbish & kill bacteria but not chemical , in this case estrogen which come from urine of a human that was under medication like hormones pill, birth control pill & etc.
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Yes, I have read about estrogen in water too.

Yes, I know about the wastewater turn into drinking water. I remember telling it to one of my friends and she don't believe it till she do her own research. After that, she stop drinking tap water (after filtered/cooked) and buy mineral water as drinking water for a month or so. Then, I told her about mineral water devil.gif devil.gif So, she gave up and start drinking tap water (after filtered/cooked) again. lol tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Jan 18 2018, 12:56 PM)
Wa...  thumbup.gif

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I know the names, but always confuse the english with cantonese names
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Haha.. but there are some fish that I am not sure about it Cantonese name. It may be same as it Mandarin name or not. Even if it is same, I am not sure how to pronounce it in Cantonese based on Mandarin.
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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Jan 18 2018, 02:54 PM)
mercury contamination already reached the south pole.
it's in the air.

source: national geographic.
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Yes, I know that mercury is everywhere after reading xxhenry89xx's post.


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Tq TS for starting this thread.

And thanks to xxhenry89xx for great info with pics.

Usually lost when it comes to fish, dunno the names.



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QUOTE(Leo.Lee @ Jan 18 2018, 02:51 PM)
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OMG !!!  thumbsup.gif Thank you so much.. This is what i wanted.

1. So, Toman are called Do Man in Chinese. I just called them Sang Yu (Cantonese). And yes, the usual Toman that I saw is the "teenage stage" Toman which look a bit similar with Sang Yu. That why I just call them Sang Yu.

2. I don't think I ate or heard of Tapah Fish before.

3. About catfish, I always just called them catfish due to those "whisker". Now, I think I can differentiate it with Chinese name thanks to your info and photo.

4. Red tilapia is "K" fish? This is the most common fish that I ate.  rclxub.gif

5. Yes, I also heard that the price of Wang Bu Liao (Empurau) have dropped due to farming. Many people demand wild empurau that the wild fish population drop to the level of extinction just like our Arowana (note that being extinct refers to wild one).

So, in a way farming this fish actually save the empurau just like how South America save their Araipama (I think it call Long Yu (Dragon Fish) in Chinese, I only saw this fish once at one of the 3 cave in Sam Poh Tong, the Nam Thean Tong) by farming them for food & leave wild one alone in the wild.

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Arapaima / Dragon Fish ? (I took the pic from google)

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Arapaima fillet

6. I haven't ate a swamp eel before. Unless you consider Unagi as one.

7. Barramundi and Asian Sea Bass  doh.gif while I am not sure about sea bass, black bass in USA but I am sure that Barramundi are only refers by the Australian Ang Moh while Asian Sea Bass by Asian.
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1. Yes, Toman are called Do man in Chinese but I believe only Malaysian Chinese would call it Do Man. Sang Yu basically refer to all type of Snakehead like the one in China which could live in colder climate, the Northern Snakehead which is a concern as invasive species in USA. They are so scared of it that they make a horror movie about Snakehead.

2. The Tapah Town in Perak are named after the fish. Tapah mean "Tak Apa" in Perak Malay language. I heard that Malay in Perak don't eat Tapah fish because of a legend and/or rumours that they found human remains inside Tapah fish, not sure if it is true.

You could eat it at some Chinese kampung at Perak. For example, at Slim River, Perak
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Quite a young Tapah if you ask me
http://eatingasia.typepad.com/eatingasia/2008/04/post.html

or Lenggong, Kuala Kangsar at Perak
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A frozen Tapah
https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/focus/2016...ites-freshwate/

3. You're welcome.

4. At least, it is true for the first red variety of tilapia. After that, it was cross-bred (hybrid) with other species of Tilapia like the Nile Tilapia and Blue Tilapia to avoid it from become super "K" and to add some preferable genetic like tolerance to colder water or grow faster.

5. Yup, i heard about Arapaima too. They even cook it in this famous cooking competition show named "Iron Chef" America version not the Japan Version.
Yes, I saw that Araipama in Nam Thean Tong too. They constantly come up to breath so it easy to spot them despite those milo/teh tarik colour water.
I think it is called 巨龙鱼 (Jù lóng yú) or 巨骨舌鱼 (Jù gǔ shé yú) in Mandarin.
DO NOT mistaken it with Arowana (The name comes from the Indonesian word, arwana or nirwana, meaning paradise / fish of paradise) which is called 龙鱼 (Lóng yú) in Mandarin & Ikan Kelisa in Malay.

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6. Basically, the swamp eel are not really an eel. It is a fish that look like an eel same as South America electric eel which it is also refer as an eel. The true eel or should I say freshwater eel (not sure about saltwater eel though), have life cycle same as our Asian Sea Bass where it lay egg in saltwater & born in saltwater and swam to freshwater to live (terbalik with salmon) and Unagi is a true eel. All eel or eel-like fish, I think we Chinese will just refer it as San Yu (Mandarin) or Sin (Cantonese).

You could try some eel dish at paddy field kampung. I try it few time near Tapah, Perak. My friends said they try it before at Sekinchan.

7. Yup, many other country are fighting to name an animal first especially if it is commercially valuable. For example, Empurau (Wang Bu Liao) are called Malaysian Mahseer but the Thai called them Thai Mahseer. Or the Long Dan (Giant not Goliath Grouper) are named as Queensland (one of Australia state) Grouper by the Australian.

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>eating whales and tuna
stop. they're overfished.
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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Jan 18 2018, 06:59 PM)
>eating whales and tuna
stop. they're overfished.
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Tongkol less people eat.

Part of Tuna family.

More cheap tongkol for me.
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Salmon is best fish to eat. Great taste, high omega-3 content.

Why are you so peculiar about mercury though? I have friends and family who eat fish every day and not a single one of them have any case of mercury poisoning. You need to eat nothing but fish every meal to even get mercury poisoning.

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Xxhenry89,

How come u so knowledgeable about fish?

1. What's the legend abt certain ppl not eating ikan tapah ?

2. Wah, I din know ppl eat araipama .

Apart from aquariums, I've seen 2 maybe 3, reared by seafood restaurant guy - near Tropicana club




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QUOTE(sagethesausage @ Jan 18 2018, 07:55 PM)
Salmon is best fish to eat. Great taste, high omega-3 content.

Why are you so peculiar about mercury though? I have friends and family who eat fish every day and not a single one of them have any case of mercury poisoning. You need to eat nothing but fish every meal to even get mercury poisoning.
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Well, just because I am a father and I hope to do my best for my family. There are a lot of thing that you can't control but for those that you can, why won't you do it (e.g. knowing second hand smoke are unhealthy to your family, won't you chose to stop smoking or at least smoke when your family are not present? )?

About mercury poisoning that I concerned here is from food (which I can still control unlike mercury in air), it doesn't mean like in those movie where you eat poisonous food then die straight away. It is a slow poison that affect brain and nervous system. It could cause headache (constant/seasonal), insomnia, numbness, stuff like hand shaking/tremor, inability to learn thing faster and etc (go google) which people rarely think much but damage have been done. The serious case is death (like you say only happen if everyday eat a lot of fish but you forgot about the one in air & etc). The damage are greater to unborn child and young children.

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QUOTE(Leo.Lee @ Jan 17 2018, 12:54 PM)
I have read that Omega 3 supplement do not have the same effect as natural source. Maybe because it deteriorate during processing or the source they're using to make those pill. I even saw a bottle of Omega 3 supplement (forgot the brand) which stated in it ingredients that it source is from wool (sheep fur). Seriously?
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You clearly did not do homework. It's called a supplement for a reason, to supplement what you lack. And you think everyone's absorption is the same even if you eat fish? How many fish can an adult or child eat a day?
Wool where got omega-3? Use ur brain please. What u should really read on the label is the amount of EPA+DHA in one softgel vs the extra useless oil. Molecularly distilled. Best still if they mention what fish and from where, good example like nordic seas. Krill oil is good if u have the money.

Don't simply read and follow blindly la. Read research papers, studies and the journals they quote in their articles if you want reliability on the stuff u read.


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post Jan 19 2018, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Jan 18 2018, 07:58 PM)
Xxhenry89,

How come u so knowledgeable about fish?

1. What's the legend abt certain ppl not eating ikan tapah ?

2. Wah,  I din know ppl eat araipama .

Apart from aquariums,  I've seen 2 maybe 3, reared by seafood restaurant guy - near Tropicana club
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As i mentioned in my first post, all of the info was compiled by me from various sources. It is just a coincidence that I have the same interest in what Leo.Lee was asking for.

1. The legend is about a Malay from Perak who is quite rich (some say poor) and like cockfighting (sabung/laga ayam). Let call him Pak Ali (I forgot his name). His rooster/cock never lose a cockfight and Pak Ali was happy in the beginning. Due to Pak Ali's rooster never lose, nobody dare to put their rooster in a cockfight against Pak Ali's rooster and as such Pak Ali start to feel bored.

The news of Pak Ali's rooster came to the attention of the Sultan Perak and he challenge Pak Ali into a cockfight. The Sultan Perak came up with few conditions/stake for the cockfight. Pak Ali accept it because he was so bored (to the extent of not thinking rationally) and he would do anything just to join a cockfighting. The conditions/stake are Pak Ali's rooster would be exchange with Sultan's rooster and would represent Sultan in the cockfight while Pak Ali would have Sultan's rooster to represent him. If Pak Ali lose, his village, house, wife, children & etc (all his belonging) would be owned by the Sultan Perak. If the Sultan lose, Pak Ali will gain part of the Sultan ruling power/authority and part of Perak state.

In the cockfight, as usual, Pak Ali's rooster win the fight and he was so happy until he realize that his rooster are representing the Sultan. Pak Ali lose everything and went to live in small house near a river. One day, he saw a giant Ikan Tapah washes ashore/stranded beside the river. He dunno what to do until a parrot fly to a tree near Pak Ali and make a sound that sound like "blllah prut". Pak Ali thought it mean "belah perut" (cut the stomach) and so he cut the stomach of the giant Ikan Tapah and to his surprise, there is a lot of gold coming out from the fish stomach. Pak Ali take all the gold and stitch back the fish stomach. He release the Ikan Tapah back to the river and swear to the fish that he & his family & his descendant would not eat, abuse, disrespect & etc (basically not doing any harm) the Ikan Tapah. If anyone of them violate this promise/swear/curse, they will get itchiness and swollen all over their body (basically skin disease) After that, Pak Ali use most of the gold to redeem all his belonging & save some.

Today, Pak Ali's descendant that was in touch with Ikan Tapah their skin would become red and itchy. Then, they will need to go and meet one of Pak Ali descendant who still keep the remaining gold and use that gold to boil with some water. They will drink the water and will be cured from the skin disease.

2. There are a lot of thing that people dunno about South and/or Central America people's diets. Different place have different animals & plant. As such, people would eat whatever is available there. They eat piranha, guinea pig (breed for food same as rabbit), arapaima (original wild caught but caught too much so they farmed it nowadays) and etc. It just that some of their food are not popularized to the rest of the world unlike their chilli, cocoa which made into chocolate, pineapple, papaya, dragon fruit (you do know that it is a fruit of a cactus, right? and only central & south america desert or half desert have cactus. P.S don't go imagine Middle East desert with camel and cactus. lol) and quite recently avocado.

"reared by seafood restaurant guy - near Tropicana club" - are you sure those arapaima are not in the menu? drool.gif drool.gif

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QUOTE(xxhenry89xx @ Jan 17 2018, 07:33 PM)
P.S. I do not own any of the photo as below.

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1. Hmm, I don't think I am in the position to answer your question about the "Chicken Fish". I haven't heard of it before. Hopefully someone who is more expert would saw this & answer this. I am curious about this as well.

2. Haha. That is the wrong fish that i bought before, the Ikan Kuning. I thought it was just a small Ikan Selar.

3. Ah yes. The threadfin. Elders like to say feed this to your wife if she don't have enough milk for the newborn baby. lol . also good as baby first solid food. I wonder if there is any research about it mercury level.

4. Woot. another excuse for me when my friends ask me to belanja them eat grouper instead of just telling them no money.
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QUOTE(Leo.Lee @ Jan 19 2018, 04:57 PM)
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1. Hmm, I don't think I am in the position to answer your question about the "Chicken Fish". I haven't heard of it before. Hopefully someone who is more expert would saw this & answer this. I am curious about this as well.

2. Haha. That is the wrong fish that i bought before, the Ikan Kuning. I thought it was just a small Ikan Selar.

3. Ah yes. The threadfin. Elders like to say feed this to your wife if she don't have enough milk for the newborn baby. lol . also good as baby first solid food. I wonder if there is any research about it mercury level.

4. Woot. another excuse for me when my friends ask me to belanja them eat grouper instead of just telling them no money.
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1. I hope so too. Anyway I was posting this question around the web (forgot when and for how long), no answer so far.

2. ikr. laugh.gif

3. Yes, I heard about it from the elders too.
Well, if you search for any parenting blog or forum from Malaysia & Singapore, you tend to find them writing about it too as Ikan Kurau (I am not sure if they know about the difference or not) while parenting blog or forum which is written by Chinese from Hong Kong, maybe China or from Australia, they'll just refer it as the threadfin or Ma Yao Yu.

WARNING (you may need to open a google map if you want to understand what I am trying to say about the location) tongue.gif
And research about mercury level in threadfin that you could find is about Ikan Senangin / Fourfinger Threadfin / Peh Ngor because they are done by the Hong Kong and/or Australia being that Fourfinger Threadfin are the most normal?/standard?/easily available threadfin that Hong Kong people or Australian can get their hand on. As Fourfinger Threadfin habitat/home/roaming area spread from west India (maybe till north of Africa) to as further east to South of Japan & as further south to the North of Australia.

While Ikan Kurau / Indian Threadfin / Orh Ngor habitat/home/roaming area spread ONLY around west India to south of Hainan Island to as further east as Phillipines and as south as east of Papua (didn't reach Hong Kong or Australia sea). Most of the wild Indian Threadfin (not sure if there is a farmed one) that we have in Malaysia & Singapore are caught in area from Andaman Sea heading down to the southeast where Malacca Straits is, passing Singapore and head northwest to where Gulf of Thailand are situated.

So, if you want mercury level in Indian Threadfin, you have to slow slow wait for either India, Malaysia, Singapore, Thai or Indonesia.

P.S those result about Ikan Senangin / Fourfinger Threadfin / Peh Ngor are okay to eat for pregnant woman & young child. It around the same level as Salmon (categorize as lowest mercury in the previous list that I posted) I guess that why the Australian call it as "Bluenose SALMON" (joking, the name is real but it is not related to mercury level).

4. sssshhh. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Leo.Lee @ Jan 19 2018, 04:57 PM)
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1. Hmm, I don't think I am in the position to answer your question about the "Chicken Fish". I haven't heard of it before. Hopefully someone who is more expert would saw this & answer this. I am curious about this as well.

2. Haha. That is the wrong fish that i bought before, the Ikan Kuning. I thought it was just a small Ikan Selar.

3. Ah yes. The threadfin. Elders like to say feed this to your wife if she don't have enough milk for the newborn baby. lol . also good as baby first solid food. I wonder if there is any research about it mercury level.

4. Woot. another excuse for me when my friends ask me to belanja them eat grouper instead of just telling them no money.
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It's good to see some fish enthusiast here

Chicken fish they usually sell at those Chinese penang/Portuguese ikan Bakar stalls

My hometown is actually at Lenggong, Perak and there's lots of river fish to eat there. Soon Hock in the market is so cheap compared to KL. Usually I will eat Sultan fish, Tengalan(?), Pak soo gong (what's the Malay name?)... The cuisine in Lenggong is simply amazing.

I recently ate this fish called Gelah/Kelah... It was so expensive rm220 for 1kg. Not sure what's the hype about this fish... It was nice but too expensive.

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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Jan 19 2018, 08:14 PM)
It's good to see some fish enthusiast here

Chicken fish they usually sell at those Chinese penang/Portuguese ikan Bakar stalls

My hometown is actually at Lenggong, Perak and there's lots of river fish to eat there. Soon Hock in the market is so cheap compared to KL. Usually I will eat Sultan fish, Tengalan(?), Pak soo gong (what's the Malay name?)... The cuisine in Lenggong is simply amazing.

I recently ate this fish called Gelah/Kelah... It was so expensive rm220 for 1kg. Not sure what's the hype about this fish... It was nice but too expensive.
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SO, do you know anything about the other fish species which the Malay say it is Chicken fish?

My question:
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https://www.tripadvisor.co.za/LocationPhoto...ersekutuan.html
The links above show the photo of the fish sold at Jalan Alor.

When I try to search about the fish, I found that the fish is called Unicorn Leatherjacket in English, Ikan Barat-barat in Malay and Keh Hu in Hokkien. And the image results based on using the information above are definitely showing the same fish. However, when I search using the terms "Chicken Fish", I found some fish image that definitely not Ikan Barat-barat/Unicorn Leatherjacket, instead it is another type of fish called Starry triggerfish and Ikan Jebong/Ayam Laut in Malay. Most of the search results are from Malay blog and as such, saying that Starry triggerfish is the "Chicken Fish".

http://sharingthotsandluv.blogspot.my/2013...asam-manis.html
One of the blog that write about Starry triggerfish/Ikan Jebong.

My question is which is the real identity of "Chicken Fish" in Malaysia. Note that when i say in Malaysia because there is another Chicken fish from Vanuatu near Solomon Islands called poulet fish.

Or is it both consider as the Chicken fish? Just like how the Chinese identify both freshwater catfish and marine/saltwater catfish as Tong Sat (Cantonese)?

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Agree that there are a lot of restaurant selling river fish at Lenggong, Perak.
I am no expert about the price. The Soon Hock at Lenggong are cheaper? hmm. farmed, maybe? Still, gonna plan my next trip to Lenggong, Perak. Dun care if it is farmed. tongue.gif

Tengalan fish is one of the fish that I never try before and dunno about it Chinese name.

Pak Sou Gong is Ikan Baung. (You can read my previous LONG post about freshwater fish tongue.gif )

Ikan Kelah.. Is it Kelah Merah? Its scale a bit reddish brown. Or is it yellowish brown? Cause the yellowish one is Empurau and i dun think it drop till rm220 for 1kg ONLY, not even farmed one. If it does, look like I need to go Lenggong for few days. hahaha.

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QUOTE(upcars @ Jan 17 2018, 11:39 AM)
Freshwater in Malaysia is patin, keli, temoleh, ikan hantu and few others. Chinese names are patin, tong sat, soon hock, Tak you lei. Other species edible is wan yue and wang bu liao . Empurau.

Most is farmed except temoleh and wang bu liao which is still natural for now. Mercury comment is higher cause most farms do not wash their sangkar.

Marine edible species too many to name. Snapper and grouper the most common . That alone also variety of species and mostly farmed.

Jenahak, kerapu, bawal, siakap, ikan merah, semilang, etc etc are some of the more common ones. Red snapper, golden snapper, mutton snapper, mangrove Jack, tiger grouper, Goliath grouper, hybrid grouper, barramundi.
Chinese is the pan family , Lou Fu pan , sekpan , loong Dan for grouper and Zhou family is hung Zhou, Kam Zhou , pak Zhou for snapper family. Siakap is common species.

Most Marine fish are farmed as well.
Hybrid grouper is a cross between tiger and Goliath and hence is what you are eating in most of the restaurants. But they still coin it as sek pan, even though it's already crossed hybrid between 2 species.
Ok?

Mercury content depends on which Waters and which farm and their water structure.
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Fren, you really think we have goliath grouper in the menu ? It is a 400kg fish.
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QUOTE(xxhenry89xx @ Jan 19 2018, 08:41 PM)
Tengalan fish is one of the fish that I never try before and dunno about it Chinese name.

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if not mistaken it should be ting ka lan (ding ga lan?) I heard my relatives mention about this river fish before. They stay in Pahang/Perak and always eat river fish buy from orang asli.

no idea what fish it is though, last time always see orang asli selling fish by road side when travel with them, no highway that time.

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QUOTE(xxhenry89xx @ Jan 19 2018, 08:41 PM)
SO, do you know anything about the other fish species which the Malay say it is Chicken fish?

My question:
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https://www.tripadvisor.co.za/LocationPhoto...ersekutuan.html
The links above show the photo of the fish sold at Jalan Alor.

When I try to search about the fish, I found that the fish is called Unicorn Leatherjacket in English, Ikan Barat-barat in Malay and Keh Hu in Hokkien. And the image results based on using the information above are definitely showing the same fish. However, when I search using the terms "Chicken Fish", I found some fish image that definitely not Ikan Barat-barat/Unicorn Leatherjacket, instead it is another type of fish called Starry triggerfish and Ikan Jebong/Ayam Laut in Malay. Most of the search results are from Malay blog and as such, saying that Starry triggerfish is the "Chicken Fish".

http://sharingthotsandluv.blogspot.my/2013...asam-manis.html
One of the blog that write about Starry triggerfish/Ikan Jebong.

My question is which is the real identity of "Chicken Fish" in Malaysia. Note that when i say in Malaysia because there is another Chicken fish from Vanuatu near Solomon Islands called poulet fish.

Or is it both consider as the Chicken fish? Just like how the Chinese identify both freshwater catfish and marine/saltwater catfish as Tong Sat (Cantonese)?

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Agree that there are a lot of restaurant selling river fish at Lenggong, Perak.
I am no expert about the price. The Soon Hock at Lenggong are cheaper? hmm. farmed, maybe? Still, gonna plan my next trip to Lenggong, Perak. Dun care if it is farmed.  tongue.gif

Tengalan fish is one of the fish that I never try before and dunno about it Chinese name.

Pak Sou Gong is Ikan Baung. (You can read my previous LONG post about freshwater fish tongue.gif )

Ikan Kelah.. Is it Kelah Merah? Its scale a bit reddish brown. Or is it yellowish brown? Cause the yellowish one is Empurau and i dun think it drop till rm220 for 1kg ONLY, not even farmed one. If it does, look like I need to go Lenggong for few days. hahaha.
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Let me get back to you regarding the chicken fish later when I ask my old dad about it. He loves seafood and have been eating it since young in our hometown

The ikan Kelah I ate was definitely not Empurau (wang bu Liao).. in Cantonese they called it Hong Kat Lor (red Kelah) . texture was similar to Tengalan. A unique way they steam it is that they don't scrape away the scales and steam it together, apparently you can eat it but I was like no thanks. Here's a picture I took (steamed)

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Tengalan in Chinese is 丁加兰. It taste very nice, but it has insane amount of bones. You need to be very careful when you're eating it. Same like sultan jelawat fish. Usually my relatives living there will buy from the Malay fishermans, only rm30-40 for huge 1.5-2kg fish.

Other fish that I regularly eat there is patin (ikan patih mas?), Kerai... Very nice.

If you travel to Lenggong, you can PM me for some restaurant recommendations and the local specialties. The local cili padi sauce (MK Brand - owned by my relative) is miles better than Kg. Koh, and there's a nice roti canai stall selling there in the morning. For Chinese food Chat Sook Restaurant is great and rarely mentioned in newspapers and websites because it's relatively new, but the chef is one of the best in Lenggong since he was trained by his father, one of the legendary chefs in Lenggong's golden age where even Hong Kong celebrities would visit the town and when Lenggong is a major town in Perak.

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Fren, you really think we have goliath grouper in the menu ? It is a 400kg fish.
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