Well well well - it's been a month since i've first laid my hands on my Z, first visual impression out of the shop are extremely impressive - despite the funky blue/gold colour tone for SE version.

My riding experience; my first ever ride was a er6-n, by Metro driving school. Cumulatively, I sat on that bike for less then an hour before taking & aceing my JPJ lesen B.

2nd bike was the z900!
Boy oh boy, this bike to me is the perfect beginner bike, this will be the bike that i will recommend brand new riders who never had experience with ANY BIKES WHATSOEVER - those that is dabbing their toes into superbikes entree level bikes, very tame bike.

Tame, both in acceleration & deceleration, the bike's front brake have a very mild bite - which is exactly what a beginner should get! Ever panic coming into a corner too hot and instinctively you touched the front brakes? Well i did, and thank god for that split second after depressing the lever i remembered the multiple youtube video guide mentioning that's a surefire way to have a real fucked up day - and i slowly let it off without much drama, saved - yet i learned a lesson, and muscle memory for it.

Acceleration - again tame (means safety!!), in a sense that you won't wheelie unless you grab more then 60% of the throttle travel, beginners tend to have a rough hand articulation, and the tame nature of acceleration/torque that dosen't really hit you in the face until you're over 6000rpm, is very welcomed.

Bike weight - i don't feel it, at all - infact i felt the er6n at JPJ is way way heavier and not as nimble as z900. The Z900 turning/leaning characteristic is gradual with no surprises, bike actually provided alot of natural feedback that you'll know when you're going to slide. Infact once i felt the chassis is "telling" me in advanced that my backwheel is going to slip (on a white painted line - those smooth type) - and i immediately straighten up my bike, and lo and behold - backwheel actually slip a littlke while bike is upright.

Suspension wise - i can't comment much given that i might just be the perfect weight for the stock set-up? 66kg naked, no clothes. But no complains so far, suspension never really failed me - it always managed to keep both wheel planted on the surface no matter the curvature or small bumps. Or maybe i'm just not riding it hard enough - but hey i'm just a one-month old new biker

Wind/aerodynamics nature - well, with the SE extended windshield, the biggest trouble of wind resistance is only felt on my helmet. The wind resistance on my body/hands are acceptable even at 220km/h, this might be personal - but i will rate the wind/aero design as "just right" for all parts apart from the head. The wind pressure on my helmet is just downright uncomfortable, it's as if someone is pushing my helmet with all their strength towards the back, i am forced to involuntarily have a silly big grin on my mouth as the cheekpads push back on my face - exposing my teeth and making a "why so serious" face.

Additionally my z900 has had the breadbox removed, but the cat remain (guys z900 cat is NOT in the squarebox, if you want to de-cat, you need to remove it from the straightpipe right after the oxygen sensor). So if your local workshop just gergaji your breadbox, it's not entirely removing your cat yet, it's a very common misconception among shops, you can obviously see the cat still in the straightpipe after you saw off the exhaust yet i've seen people saying it's "decat" already. Anyways - i want to leave my cat in, so it's ok.

What i hate about the bike:

1. Sidemirrors, what the shit man .... do i need to explain further?
2. Lights, come on... halogen bulbs... using reflector panels... and this is year 2017... man that's just unnecessary waste of voltage, loss of brightness, and the cutoff for the lights are so weak, i'm not surprised if cars don't notice my lights shining into their cabin when i'm at their blindspots...
3. No traction control, biggest problem. I never had the need for this yet - but it's unnerving knowing this bike doesn't have this safety feature.
4. Engine heat, not really a big problem - but you can definately feel the engine heat warming up your lower/middle shin due to the air passing through the engine and the aerodynamics for the outlet is shot directly at your shin. Not a problem if you wear jeans, but if seluar pendek, slacks/thin kain - sure will feel the heat.
5. Fucking recall right after i buy my bike. Great. Just freaking great.

Globally, Kawasaki has issued a recall for the Z900 but hey it's finally it's my turn for my very own "fix"!

Here's the goods, screws and brackets that's made in Japan - ooohh how fancy
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Left side bracket reinforcement:
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Right side bracket:
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Bottom view of both:
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So far there is no recorded failure for Malaysian yet, maybe we're just pussy in riding bikes or our roads are just perfect - but better safe then sorry!

All in all, Z900, as a beginner bike, lepak-lepak casual bike, cheap cheap(relatively la.. with 50k u get this type of peformance weh.. dah kira baik lah), looks like a proper "bigbike" gets a 4/5 star rating from me, as a beginner.


This post has been edited by TheOnly: Sep 22 2018, 05:22 PM

Sounds good

Going to trade in my bike for a z9 this weekend.

Congratulations on your purchase! But don't let the tame power fool you. When it gets past 6-7k, you will feel plentiful.
And for a second bike you rode on, going at 220 km/h :salute: Do ride safe bro...

If these are included, I believe the price would be much higher than RM52k... and when you're in the blindspot of a vehicle, any amount of light (given the light is in the blindspot too) wouldn't be seen by the driver, right?

This post has been edited by Cyphereza: Dec 15 2017, 11:05 AM

enjoy ur ride bro

how are you notified about the recall?

dealer inform u or kawa msia?

cos i think ivnot come across local biking media publish anything regarding this...

kawa did put up notice on its website, but who is gona check kawa website ? http://www.kawasaki.com.my/index.php?cat=707&page=1783

also nothing? on their fb page regarding this.

For me, I got the notice from official Z900 group.

official z900 group created n moderated by kawa msia?

one good way to control the news regarding their product.. since

only z900 owners allowed into the group?

any problems etc, prospects owners also hard to find out..

Nope. Not moderated by Kawa. This is the FB (I think it's public): https://www.facebook.com/groups/18507289516...h/?query=recall
And there is a Whats App group, only for owners.

Indeed the burst of power after 6k in breathtaking, literally - no kidding i am holding my breath for that initial seconds, but you really need to be consciously twist your throttle considerably, so it lessen the o-terkejut-panic factor. Sad to say, if a person has no respect towards a high powered motorcycle - they’re just a disaster waiting to happen simply pulas pulas...

Bout the blindspot, indeed the light wont show in drivers sidemirror, but a projector light will shine the road and leak some into the car’s cabin to at least inform the driver that something is nearby. This of course only works at night and does not apply to inattentive drivers or complete idiots car drivers. Every bit of safety measure counts right


Bro - my dealer called me to book a slot for the fix. Takes roughly 30mins.

good job dealer

Mt09 is the closest competitor to Z900

Agreed. But imho, neither the MT09 nor the Z900 is a close to being a 'beginner' bike. These machines were designed with so much potential power that a simple miscalculated twist would send even the most experienced into harm's way. I think a beginners bike should be easy to maneuver, is trashable, with parts that are cheap and easy to replace, and has a low initial cost of ownership just in case you find that biking on Malaysian roads ain't your thing. My buddy was ill advised, bought a Z900SE at the beginning of the year, and it's sad when he ask me if i knew anyone who wanted it. Now bike's up for sale with just over 3000km.

How much?

Why selling ?

Anyway what's lacking on the mt are the safety stuffs. No abs.

tis one? oni 4k + wor...

y he don like?

Not confident on Malaysian roads i think but he don't really want to say. Only said he seldom ride, prefer ride on small track with 250cc bike, even so, he rides slow.

I think he said RM47k, but not confirmed.

As for the 09, new one due first quarter 2018. Has ABS, quick shift, etc. Existing one a lot of negatives.

Yes, exactly like this, without mods. Full stock standard.

Sorry for bumping this thread, i want to share my experience owning a z900. My previous bike was blade 250->z800->street triple 675->z900 ... Imo z900 is far off to be a beginner bike, yes the bike feel tame and slow because the power delivery of this bike is so smooth you wont notice how fast youre going. If you compared z900 with the so called master of torque mt09, z900 still faster even though it doesnt feel like it, that alone tells you how fast z900 actually is.

So since i have own couple of bikes before this, i can tell you that z900 is the best bike i have ever own currently.

-The engine is so refined and smooth it gives you alot of confidence on riding.

-The gearbox is smooth and comparable to street triple

-The brakes on this bike is ok but not great, i did activate the abs couple of time.

-The handling of this bike is the gem, it handles so easily and confidence inspiring, taking corner felt effortless and easy, i did upset my rear tire many times because i taking corner too fast without realising it, just because the bike asking me to push it harder and harder.

- Electronic, for me z900 dont need any electronic aid because the bike itself is refined, unlike mt09 *cough*

- Price...yeah its cheap at rm50k for brand new, but i bought mine 2nd with 3k mileage at rm39k, so yeah

This post has been edited by testkindtest: Sep 5 2018, 09:38 AM

I agree that the bike feels tame... but that when it is under 4k rpm. If crack it open to 8k rpm, heart beat also rise
Noticed that you owned 675 previously, the Z900 has better handling? I've only rode once on the 675 (Triumph's demo bike), not enough ride time to tell the difference.

I own str for a year, i can tell that z900 is better in corner because the bike feels more planted and gives more feedback than str, str is famous for their handling too but that because the bike is so light, but as far i can tell, i can ride faster in corner with z900 than str... As for power yes its powerful but i just dont feel the adrenaline rush anymore, it just feel fast.

I have my bike for about a month now.

When you engage to 1st gear from N, do you get a strong clunk?

I was on vs650 before this. The clunk wasn't that strong.

Yep... no matter what oil I use, still have that clunk...

if no clunk sure the gearbox broken one la..

Scary some times.

One thing I hate about this bike is the side stand .
Difficult to flip it down. "Hidden" behind the gear lever.

Naked bike have to handle well, with bar up high. Its gonna be shite if it handle poor, that is why ppl get it in the first place. Who wants to buy a bike that handle like shite.
Unless u r talking bout supersport, constant crouch. Even that, there is plenty of way riding a sportbike comfortable.

okay. now already 50:50 between Z900 & MT-09 Tracer....
hehehehe...

If you like naked bike, take Z900.
If you like touring bike, take Tracer.



This post has been edited by Cyphereza: Sep 5 2018, 12:11 PM

Test both first, but z900 engine is super smooth, besides even if its a naked bike, you can turn it to touring no problem, theres ton of tall windshield for z900, just the downside it will look uglier

Thanks for the informative review OP!

Given that you've ridden both the z800 and z900, how would you compare the two against each other? I've only test-ridden a z800 and the biggest issues were the weight and seat height. Loved the rest of the bike, but didn't like the huge amount of plastic on what is supposed to be a naked bike. Does the z900 resolve the seat height/weight issues?

If I may, Z9 weighs 213 kg. Z8 weighs 231 kg.
Seat height wise, I can flat foot on Z9, but not on Z8. I'm 5' 8".

This post has been edited by Cyphereza: Sep 5 2018, 05:47 PM

Scary. Just now accidentally wheely. Scared.

Yup the seat height of z900 is lower than z800, the weight even though doesnt seems alot on paper, in real world the z900 feels alot lighter because it seats lower...not to mention z900 is a refined model of z800, its a no brainer if you chooose z800 unless you got the bike for cheap price...

Chill if its power wheelie you dont need to shit yourself, i have done it many times, just dont chop the throttle and you will be safe..

I think open up the throttle too aggressively. We not prepare for the wheely. Haha.

Haha 1st time sure panic lor...bike wont flip upside down unless you chop the throttle and release clutch suddenly😁

Above are valuable thoughts on the z900 as well, and of course you had way more experience then me.
My own "review" was based on myself as a complete noob who never had any bikes to compare with, z900 was my first bike and i still stand by that it's a bike i will recommend to a normal civilized human that does not have a deathwish. I most probably will not recommend this bike to a so called "expert, aku dah naik kapchai 15 tahun, tadahal bero" type of people as they will be overconfident.

Z900 is a bike that, gives what you ask for, in a very linear way. It does not prevent human stupidity but at least it's very predictable!


I recently tested my friend str675 as well, and correct - z900 does feel more planted. It's because of z900's weight & the way it's distributed, when you turn-in a corner you can feel that "pressure" pushing on you while you're leaning. Stripple have that feeling as well, but you need to go faster in order to experience the same "push", more "push" equals more centrifugal weight, and more weight on the tyre equals to more traction, and more traction "feel" gives you more confidence.

For Str, you really need to have the confidence to push it. For Z900, it's again linear, you can feel it in your gut it can handle more and more and more, of course until a patch of sand or some uneven patch of road screw your day up (z900 suspension is crap for hard riding)


You'll get used to it, i hated it for the first 2 months of ownership
Now i always use my heel, and "step" right under my gearshifter - i can now deploy sidestand like a boss when parking at mamak


I bought 2 windshield for z900, one is the PUIG tall windscreen (rm650-700), and another from china (rm120) - both are exact same shape. I bought 2 because the first tall windscreen causes too much wind buffeting right below my helmet, thus causing too much windnoise. It's way quieter if i get direct clean wind with the stock low windshield, thought because of chinamade, manatau puig official windshield also same.
So any future potential windshield buyer, beware of buffeting, and if u really want to buy, just buy a chinamade 1 lah... same exact design as PUIG, just not as cantik/refined, but after awhile it'll look all the same with all the dead bugs and dirt splattered all over your tall windshield.


i also recently test-ridden my friend's z800, and indeed the weight is THE major difference between 800 & 900, what makes it worst is actually where that extra 20kg is placed, it's too high up, and too "front" - this translates to sluggish feel (only if you're used to z900 handling), and does not really inspire confidence or "easy-riding" feel, tired u know to quickily bring the bike up left and right @ KKIC. Also, because the weight is so high above the wheel axle, crosswind actually DO affect z800 more then 900. So, yes - unless you compare the z900 with Str765(same category) - the z900 is one of the easier handling bikes, and definitely better then z800.

Weight distribution is very important, the gs1200 is way more heavier, then z900 but when i ride the gs - it feels effortless actually... with the majority the weight %'s so near to the wheel axle, they can afford to add more weight higher up without sacrificing too much "feel".

Thanks for bumping this thread, i did not realize it's already 9 month old, and i've been a biker for 9months! Crazy how i went from learning how to use the damn clutch to having an awesome day @KKIC now, self-promote my youtube video sikit - support abit haha, my Z900 removing all it's chicken strips @ KKIC --> https://youtu.be/x4GHEWZ7sxc



This post has been edited by TheOnly: Sep 5 2018, 10:40 PM

I think the chassis is designed from scratch, and the engine is refined from Z1000 (2014).

I, too, experiencing the buffeting problem.
I have tried 4 windshields:
- Tall OEM meter cover - noisy and wind directed to the helmet (if not wearing ear plugs, you would go deaf earlier)
- Low OEM fly screen - most less noise but wind hitting chest hard
- Original Puig Rafale (adjustable) - less noisy, expensive, adjusting to the right position is hell
- China made MRA design windscreen - less noisy, cheap, does the job but still not as quiet as low OEM fly screen

I would like to try Puig Next Generation Naked screen, but don't want to fork out RM500-700 for it. It seems like no ayam brand for this one. If anyone has this, please give a review.

*ehem*

nak join?

Ehem... PM number... Picture of the windscreens please (aliexpress)...

ehemm...
abam madman, dh pakai Zeth / Z900 ke???
lama betul x jumpa ko...
hahahaha...

for Z9MO Central whatsapp group? im already in there.... Izrin...unless its a diff group?

windscreens: (u can see installed pictures in the feedbacks)

SE lookalike

Double bubble


nyahahahhahaha..... dah bro... baru pickup last week and done 700km dah....

Later give review on the double bubble screen...

will do... hopefully it arrives before the 14th.... got a northern tour ride on 15-17 would be a good time to test it out.

Thanks for the double bubble windshield link, ordered it! Now the long waiting time ensues...

nais!!!
safe ride bro...
doakan aku ada modal utk amik Z9 gak nanti...

its gonna be long....i ordered on 26th August... and today's status is "despatch from sorting center" which means its still in China.

While the other windshield i ordered is already in malaysian customs.
EDIT: just received it this afternoon

another item i ordered has even already arrived


of all the things i ordered... the one i need most urgently is the slowest one

Amiiiiiiinnnn

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Sep 7 2018, 07:04 PM

Hello folks, need some advice/sharing/opinions:

I am commuting to work from Seremban - Bangsar everyday, so around 150km daily round-trip.

Am using MT-07 currently and planning to change to a more comfortable bike in term of engine vibration/nvh, am very fussy/sensitive to this.

So to all sifus right here who has owned/test ride many-many different bikes, which will have the least engine vibe, buzz etc at cruising speed of 110-130km/h?

I prefer a supersport bike actually and don't mind the seating position.

Say, is the 600cc engine will feel silkier than 1000cc at 110-130km/h?

Very much appreciated!

This post has been edited by usin_kangkong: Sep 7 2018, 04:36 PM

mt07 too vibby??

Why did you choose z9 over mt09? Can clarify more?

I've ridden my friend s1kRR, comparing to zx6 (both year 2017), and 1000cc bikes will feel smoother (cruising feeling) at 110-160km/h. You won't feel the bike is working hard, and it can casually cruise at that speed. Actually it's quite obvious that a 1000cc is better then 600 right... (600 will feel "lighter" but the difference won't matter after you've used a 1000cc bike long enough, you'll learn how to get better then a 600 - said by my friend who owns the 1000cc)

If your priority is engine vibration/nvh/comfort - my best advice is DO NOT CHANGE your stock exhaust, or infact any aftermarket parts.


As usual, this is a very personal answer, and most owners of mt09 will say bad things about z900, while z900 will say bad things about mt09 - simply because Malaysians must always justify their purchase, and get their friends approvals. So, you should never make a decision based on what "others" said.

Well but to share my personal opinion during the time of purchase, i already had more then enough disposable unused cash to go for bikes in these price range, infact already tried all these: Stripple RS, zx6 or s1000r(naked). Additionally i have no plan to keep this bike more then 2 years also, so i'm not going to defend z900 also lol.

1. Seating Position, mt09 not stylo enough. MT09 seating position is way too damn straight, it looks very awkward, from far you look like riding an old man's bike (gs1200 comes to mind ahem) But at the same time, i don't want to learn on a zx6/supersports bike as well - lesser handlebar leverage etc. My goal is to get the most beginner friendly yet sporty looking enough as my first ever motorcycle right after getting license.

2. Build quality, mt09 really exudes the "budget bike" feeling. It looks very cheap, i don't feel the refinement in mt09 bike, it just feels like a bike built-up from whatever yamaha had the leftover spareparts for, there is no bespoke feeling in mt09 at all. Furthermore, being the cheapest bike in the category dosen't help (i'm new, and budget is not in my top3 priority, and normally i won't buy the cheapest tier of item, no matter what product range la)

3. mt09 STOCK does not have any wind protection at all. I know this is a stupid point for naked bike category, but comeon i still want some sort of wind redirection or "safezone". Tracer was a no-no, it was way too "big" looking for me to handle as a beginner.

4. Electronics. If a bike wants to give electronics assist, i really wouldn't trust it from a budget-bike perspective, i much much rather it don't put any electronic assist then putting "budget" e-assists. Also, as a beginner i want to completely feel the raw feeling of unassisted bike so i can learn better.

5. Throttle, ECU mapping. It's just not smooth, and overly done. It's like the ECU is mapped to inject 20%fuel@10% throttle opening. Basically this is what i meant by "unrefined". Almost all other bikes i tested do not have this "rough" throttle feeling. No, i'm not talking about the powerband in relation to RPM, zx6 has an aggressive powerband yet i still feel it's smooth.

That's my thought when i bought the bike 9 months ago, z900 is basically an upgraded version of mt09, even the price shows that. Mt09 is cheaper but it needs to spend some cost on electronics, z900 is more expensive, but zero electronics and all spend on raw refined feeling of the engine and things that matters.

Heard many issues after changing exhaust on z9 the Code 33 Lambda sensor appear.
Speaking of which changing full system exhaust pipe and doing a proper mapping on z9. will the smoothness power gone and unleash the full raw power? on a litre bike proper AFR tuned and race tools on it really it does need to be careful on throttle i guess? neither naked nor Superbike class.

Speaking which there are a few aftermarket piggyback fuel mapping alternative and full Race ECU Flash.Is it worth it for the price we pay and long term usage? Which do you recommend? and yes Z900 does not have power selective modes and Traction Control(Only Z900RS compulsory on CBU Japan Model)

My Vulcan S has it but I heard HD's is the loudest. It's naturally normal.

Sometimes feel like the gearbox gonna get scratched, chipped gear or something

Does anyone know whats the latest price for z900 SE with SST? Got any rebate?

Anyone change to a slip on ezzos piap on their z900?

It is louder ?

Not keen to get full system. I use this bike everyday to office. So Full system is too loud for everyday use. Painful to my ears.

It is just a bit louder. Just a tiny bit. I tried once to measure the dB. Not sure if it was accurate, got 79-80 dBA (idle) with my slip on.
IINM, max noise permitted by the Dept of Environment Malaysia is 99 dBA.
If you remove the breadbox, it is a whole lot louder.

p/s: Try wearing earplugs.

Sounds nicer with the slip on ?

Can laaa... It is nicer without the breadbox...

Removing the breadbox sounds nice but AFR Mixture is messed up, lean the low end and too rich on high end. Unless warranty void going for aftermarket piggyback.

I myself removed my breadbox and have an arrow slipon.

Even with stock exhaust, i already have a habit of wearing earplugs since Day1. That is one very good practice if you really treasure your hearing, i have bought 3 different helmets and so far ALL still need earplug for my liking: Shoei Qwest, Shoei xspirit motegi, Shoei Neotec2. Those that don't use earplug - well it's your problem lol

Bought:
NoNoise Motorsport Earplugs - so, so, fitment is not really matching for me

Alpine MotoSafe earplugs - the best so far, perfect fit, without cutting out too many noise, just windnoise is reduced and all other sound frequency remain audible

Pinlock earplugs - still not yet open lol, i bought all these earplug from Amazon by batches, and alpine is the best so far.

And a huge box of 3m 1100 foam plug - TOO QUIET, cannot hear too many things, but really good for long distance i presume.

has anyone bought the z900 tall seat accessory? Care to give a review?




I have changed the stock z900 seat with HAS Cushion wrap, but dislike it due to the shop using low quality vinyl, it's not even a marine grade vinyl, so i ordered back yet another stock z900 seat from Kawasaki.

why not just re-vinyl elsewhere? how much did the stock Z900 seat cost?

i did HAS cushion too....the change that HAS cushion made is really good IMHO... definitely a better posture and more comfortable and it takes ALOT longer for my butt to start hurting. did almost 1.4k km over the Malaysia Day weekend and the seat was tolerable....

only downside is that despite them putting a layer of plastic over the cushion before laying the vinyl, i still had some minor wetness on the seat after riding in a storm for about 5-6 hours. squeezing the seat, some water will come out from the stitching....position of stitching is far back and amount of water is little that it doesnt bother me that much.

if u re-vinyl, let me know location and cost please... might consider doing it.



anyway... double bubble windscreen arrived and worked really well during the 1.4k km ride. i think i will be keeping the double bubble on the bike permanently as it worked really well and it looks better than expected. i still prefer the looks for the SE lookalike though. however, i only tested with a helmet not many people use... which is a dual sport helmet with the peak removed. an AFX FX-41. i still need to find time and place to test with my MT Helmet flipup which is a more common type of helmet people use like a full face.

comparing the standard, SE, and double bubble...

Wind blast
standard - holy mother of god! hang on for dear life!
SE - goes above the chest and slightly to the shoulder but my MT Helmet flipup feels like it is being lifted up off my head at speeds above 160kmh. never went that fast on the AFX... but at normal riding speeds, the AFX is fine.
double bubble - above chest...minimal on shoulder... works fine with my AFX dual sport helmet up to 160kmh... above that, the helmet starts being pushed back and it causes neck strain fighting the wind for prolonged periods. have to tuck in a little to be comfortable.

Wind noise
Note: i've always considered the MT Helmet to be quiet... while the AFX has always been a tornado of air and noise no matter what bike.
standard - not too bad... feels quite ok with both MT Helmet and AFX. pretty normal even when compared to my previous Z250 setup
SE - as above.. ive said the MT helmet is quiet... this windscreen makes it frigin LOUD. so its even worse in the AFX. ear plugs recommended for long rides.
double bubble - similar to SE... LOUD. ear plugs recommended. my 1.4k km ride was with the AFX and some RM2.50 3M ear plugs from hardware store. this combo worked really well.


on to da pix

standard vs SE lookalike vs double bubble


double bubble from the side


double bubble from rider's view
Notes:
1/ the bracket in the pic is the bracket that came with the SE lookalike. both uses the same bracket layout/design. however, the double bubble bracket is not full of holes. bracket installation can also be a little fiddly to match up the holes to the coverset
2/ I also added a foam layer over the center bridge to avoid the bracket scratching or cracking the windscreen
3/ I also added a foam spacer to the upper screws between bracket and windscreen to give it a little more clearance for the center bridge.


side by side comparison between SE and double bubble.




next up... need to get me a tail tidy, LED signals n nicer side mirrors... but im in a dilemma as to which side mirror would look nice and still be functional

may go for the EMS tail tidy.

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Sep 19 2018, 11:01 AM

HD and all BMW boxer engine prior 2017 when they put damper into the gearbox.All clunk like tractor.

All legacy engines has that problem.. newer engine with internal direct gearing and clutch in the same crank case is smoother.

The double bubble on the z9 always remind me of alien.

Nice. If you found ems online, lemme know.

Now that uve mentioned it.....

U mean the ems tail tidy? Its in mudah...1 seller in shah alam n another in penang... Penang one cheaper though

I think better stick to mt07.. using z900 for daily commuter will cost you a bomb..
Is the vibe in mt07 really that much? Im thinking to upgrade to mt07 as well.

Cost a bomb in terms of fuel or monthly payment (compared to MT-07)?
If other parts, almost the same as MT-07, 180 rear tyre, 525 chain and sprockets, etc.

This post has been edited by Cyphereza: Sep 20 2018, 03:52 PM

Just now I was damn dumb...
Been working non stop from 8am until 10.45pm with only 10 minutes break for a quick lunch, damn tired and blur when I took my bike.

Totally forgotten about the disc lock. Dropped the bike in the car park. I guess I have to start using the reminder cable.

Like this...

oh damn... hope not much damage to the bike....

this is the main reason i dun wanna use the disc lock (even though i got it as a free gift).... scary la....even with the reminder cable.

i think a simple padlock at the sprocket might be better and less damaging in case u forgot.

No damage except for a light scratch on the handle bar end.

Picking up the bike is crazy. Heavy . Even when using the proper technique.

Usually the alarm on the disc lock will trigger off when I forget to remove it . The moment I start the bike the alarm will sound. Bad luck because the battery is flat and hasn't change it yet. Sigh.

This post has been edited by skyblu3: Sep 22 2018, 10:07 AM

What engine oil are you using? Liquid moly good ? 10/50 full....good ?or semi will be good enough?

Giving credit where it's due, HAS Cushion has did a tremendous job, i was not saying it's not good - infact his cushioning is a big upgrade from stock seat. Stock seat is just trash.

I will only re-vinyl after i ship in some high quality marine-grade vinyl, probally will give HAS cusion to do it and will tip him an extra 200 or 300bucks for using my materials - but i feel it's too much hassle so i just called my Kawa SA to bring in a tall seat for me lol

Since nobody has a review of tall seat; here is mine!

1. Comfort-wise: It is leaps and bounds better then the z900 stock seat, the cushioning/foam is just of higher quality, it's stiff, substantial support yet at the same time does not cause pressure points. It's the perfect balance of softness & stiffness. Extremely happy with the tall seat.

2. Ergonomics: As a 175cm male, i needed that extra 20mm or so of leg space, and the tall seat perfectly fits my needs - I always felt cramped after switched the z900 rearsets (but no regret for rearset, stock pegs keep on scrapping the floor - scary). I feel higher on the bike, the whole seat is rather "flat" so you won't feel pushed forward.

3. Waterproof: It surprised me that the tall seat option for z900 actually have a plastic wrap below their vinyl. So the vinyl itself is rather "water-resistant" only, it still will trap some moisture at the seams, but no problem at all if you park your bike outside under heavy rain as the seams of the seat is not where you'll be sitting. The tall seat cover can still be easily "dried" with a wipe of a hand - but comparing to stock seat water-proof'ness, it still lose. Nothing is as waterproof as stock z900 seat. But i believe this is a trade-off between breathable and comfort, same as how you wouldn't feel comfortable wearing a plastic bag rain cloth over a gore-tax right? (ie. gore-tax waterproof, but not as high as plastic bag - but the tradeoff is even air/wind is trapped under the layer)

4. Build Quality: Just perfect, no complaints for something so cheap (<1k), Kawasaki stitching looks very secure, faux carbon fibre vinyl feels nice to the touch - well just look at the picture below:

HAS Cushion - undeniably great workmanship, just lacks proper/higher grade materials/tools:
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Z900 Tall seat option - even better in terms of foam used, vinyl used, and ergonomics are all correct now, i can actually sit on the whole seat:
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HAS Cushion side profile:
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Z900 Tall Seat side profile:
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A 175cm human with z900 rearset, tall seat, leg angle:
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All in all, the z900 tall seat option is really an "upgrade" for those that can afford to sit 20mm higher, ie-shorter riders might have to tip-toe as the ride height is now just slightly lower then a s1000rr.



Just to elaborate on "costing a bomb", because to me this is cheap as compared to driving cars around, and these are not even "performance" car which has super tight tolerances & bespoke servicing service etc "amg//M etc. No a damn golf gti is not a peformance car".

But generally this is my standard cost for those wondering what it costs to naik "big bike":
1. fuel - rm 30-36bucks for 200-250km (ron97)
2. bike service - 4 bottle of engine oil + 1 kawa air filter every 4000km (the price you all own self gauge using your prefered brand la)
3. "major" service at 30k and other big milestones? --> such as spark plug, air filter, valve clearence and etc etc are around 1-2k depending on what, rather comparable to a >2litre car servicing.
4. Tayar - last around 10k KM each, average say rm 1k to change front+back - usually i just change both even if front still got thread left, as i like to have 2 tyres age at the same time.
5. Chain & sproket - around 500-600, every 25-30k if you maintain your chain well.
6. Brake pads/rotors - rather irrelevant, they take too long to finish, unless you racing ka?
7. Chain lube + cleaner - around rm100 for both cleaner and lube, lasts 2month for me, every few days i clean and lube.
8. Roadtax+insurance - around 1k-1.5k depending on your insurance - yearly, so plus minus yourself here & there, but rm350 for roadtax is cannot escape.

The above is basically everything i ever need to pay to keep my bike in a running condition, excluding buying accessories lah which will cost half your bike price with them leathers, accessories, tools etc
And for those that using loan to buy bike, just add your repayments + all the above, and you will know the cost of owning, and actually using it instead of putting it inside the house saying "weekend bike weekend bike", when infact no money change tayar but still boleh pergi KKIC at weekend ngan tayar botak

Been using liquimoly since i bought the bike, so i don't even know it's good or not, whatever is the highest grade rating available in store- never bothered to actually remember the number.
But so far - no problem at all, i guess that's a good sign?

This post has been edited by TheOnly: Sep 22 2018, 05:19 PM

Your bike got so many reflective stickers. Haha.

Anyway, which liquidmoly u using?

Full syn?

This post has been edited by skyblu3: Sep 22 2018, 04:54 PM

How much is the Kawa tall seat? Have to TT la nnt to try it out. Can ah?

I've only ever used liqui moly once in my life and it was the semi 10w40 street.... and i only used it on my previous Z250.... engine was super rough... vibration increase... gear changes were super notchy.

hated it.... never gonna use that brand again

changed to a cheaper castrol power-1 10w40 semi and everything was smooooooooooottthhh....


i agree... definitely a damn good job...i guess my vinyl isnt as bad as urs (or i think its ok) plus my stitches are minimal compared to urs too. so not much water seepage.

175cm eh...same height as me... but i dont have rear sets.....i havent scraped any footpegs in 20 years

When? Where TT ?

Just checked my phone photos, it's 10w-50 fully synt. So far really smooth and no noticeable engine/shifting problem, gear slides in solidly using clutch or clutchless upshift as long as you don't mess up.

But i really think engine oil is another personal preference item la, i don't believe any reputable brand-name oil is BAD - like that they can go out of business already, maybe just a placebo effect.


i believe it's in the rm600-700 range, i can't remember only seat price as i paid via m2u with tips for my SA who arranged the delivery within 1 day.

Unfortunately i tak boleh keluar malam malam Family already curse like mad for buying motorbike

TT in the evening la then nnt. Are you in the official group yet?

The recall is for installing that black bracket?

Just wanna make sure because I just purchased a used z900 and the previous owner does not know whether the bike has been installed with it or not.

Yes, it is to strengthen the chassis mounting points for the suspension. If there is nothing there, try going to Kawa official SC. Or better yet, Kawa in Glenmarie.

Has Cushion, you managed to make Haz stop talking? hahaha

how long you do the seat? whole day there?

He should reduce the chit chat and ciggy then faster doing his sewing..

mine was a simple one... so about 1-2 hours....but i was also the first one of the day on a weekday

A short ride to PD and Melaka...

What's the fuel range you're getting per tank on the Z9?

If commute to work with sensible speed (highway), 220-240 km.
If commute to work with not so sensible speed (highway), 200-210 km.
If commute to work though the city, 180-200 km.

Averaging 17.1 km/L

http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/kawasaki/...yphereza/614275

has it arrived?

z9 def not a beginner bike
very heavy

Some beginners power kot?

At least lighter than z800 right?
I've heard a fair share about z800 good first bike also

It is much lighter than the Z800. By around 20kg. And I think the overall weight distribution of the Z900 is towards the lower part of the bike compared to Z800.

This post has been edited by Cyphereza: Oct 6 2018, 07:12 AM

Lighter, yes. But I still wont recommend any motorcycle with 100bhp for anyone just starting on a clutch motorcycle.

I had to learn this the hard way.