but i'll need at least 2, 1 from player to AVR. the other from AVR to TV to get proper result.....and I'm not gonna spend RM700 on 2 x 1m HDMI cable

peasant can't afford luxury thing...

very good explanation..salute u
yeah HDMI are digital, but that is not that simple as 1 & 0 signal sending from 1 end to another..
cables don't deal wit digits, they deal with real world analogue signals that are used to represent those digits..
so the tricks are lying between there..

Dear all, so is there a difference between a RM30 HDMI cable and Rm300 monster cable?? Personally, i feel the difference maybe at most 10% and it does not justify the 1000% price difference...

no body said cable manufacturing is a simple process, the argument is whether when different price of HDMI cables having meet the same standard is it going to have different in PQ, example, RM100 HDMI ver 1.3 vs RM1000 HDMI ver 1.3 won't give PQ different.

If anyone care to read all the pages and understand simple english do realized that HDMI would have signal loss as well, if someone run it very long. Again, this is nothing to do with PQ.

for the example of the car, let look at this way, why do you think BMW selling Mini One more expensive than Honda, Toyota, Citroen, Renault 1.6 litre car. Is simple, low pricing could damage their branding strategy and their pricing in the market. Same goes to QED/Monster, just imagine if you buy Monster HDMI cable same price as said "Cap Ayam" HDMI cable, what kind of damage will do to thier other products line.

This post has been edited by kepco: Dec 22 2008, 06:14 PM

you really sound like you don't know what you are talking about.. the output is measured with a Tektronix Signal analyser and the output is in the form of "eye pattern"..
if a USD10.00 cable passes the HDMI 1080p bandwidth test using this 6figure machine (which the article few pages back confirmed), all your reasoning about 5v/high.low resistance/copper prices etc doesn't matter.

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Added on December 22, 2008, 6:58 pmalamak.. no wonder la.. UK mag reader.. (analog audio cable mentality)

UK mags are good for audio reviews and such.. but when it comes to AV (especially the "V" as in video..), best leave the reviews to USA AV mags..

This post has been edited by ar188: Dec 22 2008, 06:58 PM

Man... u guys are still at this.

Can't u all just accept it?

just for clarity,.. accept what? that expensive cables does or doesn't make a difference compared to good but cost effective cables?

This post has been edited by ar188: Dec 22 2008, 07:33 PM

seriously a mini cooper will beat altis,civic flat..
mini cooper give u fun and more importantly the "sheer driving pleasure" by bmw
then the selling point is there, is just the consumer need those products or not..

Just think about this, if you are a businessman, do you 1st invest a lot of money in research, manufacture and sell something that does not has demand? If expensive HDMI cable does not improve PQ and AQ I believe all cable manufacturers would not have their flagship cables.

There are always people who can afford expensive cable, to them, maybe 1k investment to have PQ increase by 10% would worth the money while to some others, it's totally a waste of money. So, it's subjective and whether you think you would want to spend that kind of money.

yes, if it improves 10% of the quality then I would even buy them even if it costs 1k.. then that's where the reasoning breaks down, how can a digital cable improve anything? it's just a copper cable not a Hidef Video Processor.. (unlike analog AV cables which can degrade a analog audio/video signal)

still you don't get the gist of what I'm trying to say from a technical point of view.. the USD10 cable and the USD300 cable all pass the HDMI1.3 test.. using super precise testing equipment loaned by monster cable themselves.

if you say, people want to spend on 1k cable just because they got money, go ahead, that's nothing wrong with that, just don't tell me that a lesser good quality cable won't pass the data thro properly. cos at the end of the day,
it's whether if the digital data goes thro 100% or it doesn't and if it doesn't, you will know it cos it will be abrupt.

it cant make it 5% better or 10% less from it's source to the TV..

This post has been edited by ar188: Dec 22 2008, 10:01 PM

personally, I owned Monster's HDMI 1080p cable, I just don't see any PQ different between Monster's and those HDMI cable bundled with blu-ray player on my Pioneer 42" plasma. In fact, if anyone using HTPC, then there is others that can affect PQ, such as TV settings, choice of player, source etc.

Yes, if paid more for mini one driving pleasure, than we paid more for a reason, but we merely paid more for mini one just mere want to transport from point A to point B, a Perodua vehicle would just do the trick. Monster HDMI vs Chap Ayam fall under "just mere want to transport from point A to point B, a Perodua vehicle would just do the trick' category. We just want something adhere to the HDMI transfer speed, it just didn't add value beside than that.

guys, want to ask, how much is a branded 2m and 3m HDMI cable (version 1.3)?

please state the brand and price if you guys know

PS: i dont wan get conned , so need help abit >.<

harvey selling Monster HDMI between RM800 to ~RM1600

for 2m and 3m only wo..... >.<

I wonder if it improves the visual quality as much as a USD250 BD-35 player.. since they are in the same price range..

This post has been edited by ar188: Dec 23 2008, 12:28 AM

My bet will go for the BD35..

beside BD35, next one is Pioneer Kuro series.

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Added on December 23, 2008, 7:23 amwonder why this thread is so hot....

This post has been edited by kepco: Dec 23 2008, 07:23 AM

why not you write to cable manufacturer who can answer your question? There's no point arguing. Everything sells for a reason.

why need to write? they can't proof it themselves from a scientific and engineering point of view, that theirs is better than those OEM 1.3 spec good quality but way way cheaper cables.

just don't tell me their 1k cable is gonna transfer digital data meeting the 1.3 spec while other OEM freebies doesnt?.

frankly, if one can afford to buy a good hdtv and player, I don't see why he/she not getting a better build cable to connect both. Don't forget that premium hdmi cables are high speed cable.

I am sure there's a differences between an cheap RM50 with RM500 cable. If you are seriously into audiophile, then you should get a better built quality cable to match your high performance TV and player. If you not into quality, then stick to al-cheapo cables.

Another example is, why would someone buy a BD player now which cost more than RM2k and also need to buy original bd for more than RM100? Because that person demand for quality goods in their life.

There's no wrong or right answer to this. It's all about individual preferences.

By the way, you don't need to pay through your nose to get a premium quality hdmi cable like Monster. Click here for more info:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/756138