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paogeh
post Oct 30 2019, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 30 2019, 04:08 PM)
oil and gas expat, earns quite a bit, knows the oil business, so trades crude related instruments lor...

options are fairly easy but need a bit of ground work. can best combine with shares so you can sell covered calls & buy puts...

I'm old & lazy, difficult to learn easy to forget...lol...  but here got good material if interested... https://optionalpha.com/
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i thouhg u trade FX ?

u trade options + oil ?


as Emily suggested ,
most easy = stock ....
buy and hold .
collect dividen till death .


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post Oct 30 2019, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(paogeh @ Oct 30 2019, 02:02 PM)
another questions pop up :
we always see ppl invest in stock , eg: Warren Buffet .
Ppl use this strategy to hold as long as possible to generate wealth .
Basically , buy blue chip and collect dividen forever .
when die , passed the blue chip to next kin .
wealth being built this way .

However , we dun hear such thing in FX , or options , etc .
how come ?

In theory , FX should amplify the wealth effect like the stock do .
in reality , i cant find any.

i can think off , carry trade in FX to collect swap daily . But this strategy is dead after 2008.
is it possible to build wealth in FX similar like KLSE/stock/blue chip/divien stock?
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QUOTE(paogeh @ Oct 30 2019, 02:45 PM)
stocks -- collect dividen , this one straight forward .
Bonds - collect bond interest till maturity , got risk of default . Worse, hold till maturity and collect back principal.
options -- Can explain more how to collect interest/swap ?  The swap is juicy ?

*above 3 market , need huge capital , right ?
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Are you comparing trading and investing?
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post Oct 30 2019, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(paogeh @ Oct 30 2019, 04:31 PM)
i thouhg u trade FX ?

u trade options + oil ?
as Emily suggested ,
most easy = stock ....
buy and hold .
collect dividen till death .
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Never tried options... friend sent me the link long time ago I never get to learn it ... just know a bit to be dangerous

But seriously, you should step back and tune up your trading system... even slow moving stocks you need an exit plan. Also learn a bit more TA...many folks here going long while you stuck to shorting... whilst fundamentals haven't changed and EUR may still head to 1. It does swing up a bit every few months...

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post Oct 30 2019, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(e_X @ Oct 30 2019, 07:04 PM)
Are you comparing trading and investing?
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trading but if wrong.. holldddd... then become investor biggrin.gif
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post Oct 31 2019, 09:29 AM

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EUR to TP1 1.121, TP2 1.125...? hmm.gif
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post Oct 31 2019, 09:52 AM

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Focus FX enough, tons of money there.
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post Oct 31 2019, 01:37 PM

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yes sir.. but trading is hard sad.gif

why doesn't anyone here choose stocks instead
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post Oct 31 2019, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(mrbigggyyy @ Oct 31 2019, 01:37 PM)
yes sir.. but trading is hard sad.gif

why doesn't anyone here choose stocks instead
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because people are poor.
stocks are expensive.
if you want to trade for a living, with no leverage, you might take 10 years to stabalize. Nobody wants to wait that long.
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post Oct 31 2019, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Oct 31 2019, 01:42 PM)
because people are poor.
stocks are expensive.
if you want to trade for a living, with no leverage, you might take 10 years to stabalize. Nobody wants to wait that long.
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but assume if you are trading 1% risk per trade.. it shouldnt matter if you trading stocks or fx right?
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post Oct 31 2019, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(mrbigggyyy @ Oct 31 2019, 02:21 PM)
but assume if you are trading 1% risk per trade.. it shouldnt matter if you trading stocks or fx right?
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You still need a huge capital la...
Stocks no leverage one.
You want to buy and sell 10 shares of sime darby plantation meh?
The profit don't even know can pay for your lunch money or not.
You want to try and buy 1 lot of google? amazon? tesla?


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post Oct 31 2019, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(mrbigggyyy @ Oct 31 2019, 02:21 PM)
but assume if you are trading 1% risk per trade.. it shouldnt matter if you trading stocks or fx right?
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aapl biggest single day candle past 3 months 4.2% (open->close)... to make that $1000 you need $24k... same 3 month period eurusd biggest candle 95 pips... so 500:1...$240... smile.gif

you can of course borrow money from the broker and pay interest but still need collateral

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post Oct 31 2019, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 31 2019, 04:27 PM)
aapl biggest single day candle past 3 months 4.2% (open->close)... to make that $1000 you need $24k... same 3 month period eurusd biggest candle 95 pips... so 500:1...$240... smile.gif

you can of course borrow money from the broker and pay interest but still need collateral
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for stocks it's of course recommended to do swing.. and there's CFD products as well for stocks
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post Oct 31 2019, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(mrbigggyyy @ Oct 31 2019, 05:41 PM)
for stocks it's of course recommended to do swing.. and there's CFD products as well for stocks
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only in malaysia people still talk about cfd
If you're going to trade cfd, might as well upgrade and trade options. Only backwater country like Malaysia still got so many people want to trade cfd.

Bottom line is: stocks need huge capital.
If you want cheaper, trade options.
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QUOTE(mrbigggyyy @ Oct 31 2019, 05:41 PM)
for stocks it's of course recommended to do swing.. and there's CFD products as well for stocks
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Limited stock.... biggrin.gif
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time to buy EURUSD
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post Nov 1 2019, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(CallOfLegend @ Oct 31 2019, 09:10 PM)
time to buy EURUSD
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NFP la bro...
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post Nov 1 2019, 12:33 PM

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NFP la bro...
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Yeah, wait for right window before next gambling cycle.
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post Nov 1 2019, 12:43 PM

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Any trader using EA here?

How is the performance for October?

Mine is 20.92%.
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post Nov 1 2019, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Nov 1 2019, 12:43 PM)
Any trader using EA here?

How is the performance for October?

Mine is 20.92%.
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Mine +40% to +50%, multiple accounts. Target only +10% a month.
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post Nov 1 2019, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Nov 1 2019, 12:43 PM)
Any trader using EA here?

How is the performance for October?

Mine is 20.92%.
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nice... ever thought of opening up our EA for us to invest?

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