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 LYN F1 V15 Season, Continuation from V14 2017

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danielcmugen
post May 12 2019, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 12 2019, 10:12 PM)
so its the race exciting??? i guess not looking at the response from you guys lol
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Very boring until after the safety car
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post May 12 2019, 11:02 PM

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Ferrari and their stupid strategy. Even RB outsmart them with a bold move to commit to 2 stop early on. Ferrari kept on doing the 'safe' decision, and most of the time, no decision at all.
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post May 12 2019, 11:06 PM

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If only VB's front right touched LH's left rear when squeezed by SV...
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post May 12 2019, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ May 12 2019, 10:56 PM)
Very boring until after the safety car
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Even after it still boring...
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post May 12 2019, 11:13 PM

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Dem boring, total domination from merc as usual.


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post May 12 2019, 11:18 PM

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Did I hear correctly that Karun Chandhok mentioned Ferrari race engineers on both side of garage claiming both cars on the same strategy??? Even tho Leclerc on hard, and Vettel on medium?? Even new audience can guess that Vettel most probably going to stop again, while Leclerc targetting 1 stop only. And Ferrari pitwall decided to let them race ... can't believe it, if really got such miscommunication.

Ok, got safety car, got chance to catch Verstappen .... couldn't.
Another season to write-off for Ferrari, I think; if this kind of decision-making and car development is 'slower' than Mercedes and Red Bull.


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post May 12 2019, 11:27 PM

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Mercs team's and driver's points are already almost double Ferrari's with just 25% of the season done! Next Monaco, almost certainly another Mercs domination judging by how much faster they are in Barcelona's 3rd sector, so expect the point is will be more than double by then. 😓
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post May 12 2019, 11:33 PM

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Race over from the first corner of the first lap. No comment for next race.... (Indy 500 is on the same day, will skip monaco).

Plus in summer hamilton usually do well, no further comments....
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post May 12 2019, 11:38 PM

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Racing season this year is mostly boring so far with only MotoGP still ok. F1 dominated by Mercs, Australian Supercars also dominated by the Penske Mustang, WSBK dominated by Bautista.
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post May 13 2019, 05:31 AM

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QUOTE(r2t2 @ May 12 2019, 11:18 PM)
Did I hear correctly that Karun Chandhok mentioned Ferrari race engineers on both side of garage claiming both cars on the same strategy??? Even tho Leclerc on hard, and Vettel on medium?? Even new audience can guess that Vettel most probably going to stop again, while Leclerc targetting 1 stop only.  And Ferrari pitwall decided to let them race ... can't believe it, if really got such miscommunication.

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More like no one in charge. Unlike other team principal, such as horner which has the final say in the race.

They took 3-4 laps to decide everything, the first swap, vettel pit (he even need to say 'please' to be pitted, how stupid is binotto anyway?), the 2nd swap, put leclerc or hard (pretty stupid when vettel got pace with med)...something broke inside ferrari?

Got feeling even vettel is kinda unhappy, thus affecting him.
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post May 13 2019, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 12 2019, 10:12 PM)
so its the race exciting??? i guess not looking at the response from you guys lol
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I dozed off, woke up and saw VB on top step then switched with LH, no idea what's happening there.
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post May 13 2019, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 12 2019, 11:38 PM)
Racing season this year is mostly boring so far with only MotoGP still ok. F1 dominated by Mercs, Australian Supercars also dominated by the Penske Mustang, WSBK dominated by Bautista.
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Jonny Rea won this weekend, and race 2 cancelled because of rain.
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post May 13 2019, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ May 13 2019, 09:03 AM)
Jonny Rea won this weekend, and race 2 cancelled because of rain.
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Yes I know but still the overall picture is still domination by Bautista.
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post May 13 2019, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ May 13 2019, 05:31 AM)
More like no one in charge. Unlike other team principal, such as horner which has the final say in the race.

They took 3-4 laps to decide everything, the first swap, vettel pit (he even need to say 'please' to be pitted, how stupid is binotto anyway?), the 2nd swap, put leclerc or hard (pretty stupid when vettel got pace with med)...something broke inside ferrari?

Got feeling even vettel is kinda unhappy, thus affecting him.
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They wanted to try CL on a 1 stopper but then realized it would not work as he had no pace and tires still won't last too. It's like a comedy of errors at Ferrari. 😓

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post May 13 2019, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 13 2019, 11:49 AM)
They wanted to try CL on a 1 stopper but then realized it would not work as he had no pace and tires still won't last too. It's like a comedy of errors at Ferrari. 😓
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That's what Verstappen commented on radio also, right? when the team told him that Leclerc is on hard, and most probably 1 stopping.
It won't last.

I was hoping Leclerc could at least hold on to 3rd place on hard since they got straight line speed, maybe Red Bull with DRS also harder to overtake ... actually, I didn't see when Verstappen overtook Leclerc after his 2nd pitstop before the safety car.
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post May 13 2019, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(r2t2 @ May 13 2019, 12:02 PM)
That's what Verstappen commented on radio also, right? when the team told him that Leclerc is on hard, and most probably 1 stopping.
It won't last.

I was hoping Leclerc could at least hold on to 3rd place on hard since they got straight line speed, maybe Red Bull with DRS also harder to overtake ... actually, I didn't see when Verstappen overtook Leclerc after his 2nd pitstop before the safety car.
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Yeah. Ferrari strategist is a joke. Even rival driver can do better analysis without the data etc.
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post May 13 2019, 04:24 PM

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How is f1 still watchable with merc dominating 1-2 in every damn race. Anyone who can watch whole race then still have the mind to analyze the race is a hero.

I love f1 but such racing is horrible. So called high tech of these cars is way too much.
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post May 13 2019, 04:51 PM

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I'm not sure about others; myself, although I'm a long-time Ferrari fan (since 1999), even if Mercedes is dominating, as long as the racing is close and many overtakings and uncertain strategies, I'll consider the race isn't boring. But like football matches, some are snoozefest.

Even if I don't want to see Lewis win another WDC, I've to admit he is one of the greats, especially in qualifying. This season, I rather see Valtteri Bottas win WDC if Ferrari & Red Bull can't catch up.

Asides from a top team, usually I'll support another mid-field team and maybe an underdog team, depending on the driver or manufacturer. E.g. this season I like to see Renault to be best of the rest, coz maybe due to Daniel Alvocado. Alfa Romeo, I think can categorize as underdog, not really mid-field team but I like to see Kimi scoring points. So, if the race leader is way ahead, the TV director usually will cut to closer racing in the mid-fields. Plus, the commentators must be good.

Hoping for better closer racing after 2021 major regulation changes.
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post May 13 2019, 05:56 PM

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So despite all the engine and aero upgrades, Ferrari is still slower or actually again another development in the wrong direction hence cannot even beat Max and further behind from Mercs.
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post May 13 2019, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 13 2019, 04:24 PM)
How is f1 still watchable with merc dominating 1-2 in every damn race. Anyone who can watch whole race then still have the mind to analyze the race is a hero.

I love f1 but such racing is horrible. So called high tech of these cars is way too much.
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I still watch because I am still hoping something can happen, but honestly I also dozed off a bit in the later stages and then playing games with my phone instead!

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