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post Aug 5 2019, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(shirroe @ Aug 5 2019, 04:03 PM)
Anyone have same.problem.with me? Today I'm received notification on my LG TV that Astro GO doesn't support LG anymore
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 5 2019, 04:21 PM)
This does not bode well.

It also implies astro has no plans for the app to work well direct on any tv incl Androidtv.

So... better get L3 unrooted boxes... should work.

Btw, strangely, new app also works easy on PC Windows, unlike old version.
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Damn...no wonder Astro Go removed LG TVs from the list of supported device on their FAQ section

which also means that I need to sign up another Astro account when I move out from my parents house ranting.gif

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post Aug 5 2019, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(shirroe @ Aug 5 2019, 04:03 PM)
Anyone have same.problem.with me? Today I'm received notification on my LG TV that Astro GO doesn't support LG anymore
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 5 2019, 04:21 PM)
This does not bode well.

It also implies astro has no plans for the app to work well direct on any tv incl Androidtv.

So... better get L3 unrooted boxes... should work.

Btw, strangely, new app also works easy on PC Windows, unlike old version.
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Just contacted Astro... it's official doh.gif

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post Aug 6 2019, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 5 2019, 04:37 PM)
The lagging does it happen to Android 8/9 devices ?
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Using Sony android TV with AOTG beta.. both android 7.0/8.0 lag...
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post Aug 6 2019, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(shirroe @ Aug 5 2019, 04:03 PM)
Anyone have same.problem.with me? Today I'm received notification on my LG TV that Astro GO doesn't support LG anymore
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Same problem here sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif Anyone know any non root android tv box that can run Astro Go?
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QUOTE(dkoh703 @ Aug 6 2019, 08:57 AM)
Same problem here  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif   Anyone know any non root android tv box that can run Astro Go?
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below last list for old app version v8.2.6.

IMPT** things may have changed a bit with new app version... e.g. ATV/L1 devices suffer from judders for live hd channels.
please check thoroughly... anyone with confirmed info about any specific device, please post.


QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 3 2019, 09:31 AM)
updated!

from all that have been posted, below a quick compilation of boxes that can do astrogo.

some can do in original state, others need to unroot/hide root.

some can do with official version, others need modified version.

there must be more, feel free to add!
Himedia Q10pro, Q5pro
Minxi U1, U9H
Mibox Int'l, mibox s **
Nvidia ShieldTV **

Tanix Tx3 mini, Tx5 max
Mecool BB2
Zidoo H6 Pro
Beelink GT Mini A (AndroidTV version) **
Beelink GT1 Mini
Tanix TX6
Mecool M8s Pro W (normal android version)
Tanix TX3 Max (same spec with TX3 mini, only difference is Bluetooth adapter is on TX3 Max)
Mecool M8s Pro L (normal android version)
X96
SUNVELL T9 RK3328
Mecool KII Pro, Tanix TX28, T95Z Plus
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post Aug 6 2019, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 6 2019, 10:27 AM)
below last list for old app version v8.2.6.

IMPT** things may have changed a bit with new app version... e.g. ATV/L1 devices suffer from judders for live hd channels.
please check thoroughly... anyone with confirmed info about any specific device, please post.

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The new Astro Go app have more restriction. Only allow mobile app and browser (in PC) to view. I tried with Safari in MacBook is ok. But when I tried mobile app on my Huawei phone with the USB-C to HDMI connector to Monitor, the app detected that and disallowed the viewing via external display.

Anyone has tested the new app with any TV box please share if it works.


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QUOTE(dkoh703 @ Aug 6 2019, 11:12 AM)
The new Astro Go app have more restriction. Only allow mobile app and browser (in PC) to view. I tried with Safari in MacBook is ok. But when I tried mobile app on my Huawei phone with the USB-C to HDMI connector to Monitor, the app detected that and disallowed the viewing via external display.

Anyone has tested the new app with any TV box please share if it works.
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Already mentioned in previous posts, this new app is working most of the Widevine L3 phones and android tvbox. Some older box like on Android 7.1.2 might have login difficulty if it is hardwired to use the old webview ( com.android.webview ). Those using newer webview ( com.google.android.webview ) will not likely not experience login difficulty.

TM STB has login difficulty and I believe it is due to it using 'com.android.webview'.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 6 2019, 12:24 PM)
Already mentioned in previous posts, this new app is working most of the Widevine L3 phones and android tvbox. Some older box like on Android 7.1.2 might have login difficulty if it is hardwired to use the old webview ( com.android.webview ). Those using newer webview ( com.google.android.webview ) will not likely not experience login difficulty.

TM STB has login difficulty and I believe it is due to it using 'com.android.webview'.
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Sorry... what is Widevine L3 android tvbox?
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QUOTE(dkoh703 @ Aug 6 2019, 11:12 AM)
The new Astro Go app have more restriction. Only allow mobile app and browser (in PC) to view. I tried with Safari in MacBook is ok. But when I tried mobile app on my Huawei phone with the USB-C to HDMI connector to Monitor, the app detected that and disallowed the viewing via external display.

Anyone has tested the new app with any TV box please share if it works.
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as said, plenty has been discussed... do read back.

the list i posted... except for ATV/L1 devices, the rest should work with new astrogo app - they are unrooted and L3.

from that list, i personally can confirm himedia Q10pro, Tanix TX3mini and Tanix TX5max work fine - becos i have them.




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QUOTE(dkoh703 @ Aug 6 2019, 12:51 PM)
Sorry... what is Widevine L3 android tvbox?
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Go play store and download an app called DRMinfo and run it. It will tell you your box is running what Widevine security level.

Level 1 is higher than Level 3. Most boxes like phones and tvbox are L3. But Netflix requires boxes to be Widevine L1 as the pre-requisite. However, based on user feedback, the new AstroGo app seems to show lagging issue when it is run on Widevine L1 boxes ( which include most android TV boxes ).
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anyone experience judder effect? especially watching live football match?

mind to share you guys resolution and color setting?

i using h96 max plus 4+64gb but i feel the screen feel like jumping when i set to rgb color mode 10bit, feel better with the ycbcr420 8bit mode
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QUOTE(vignaroli @ Aug 6 2019, 01:43 PM)
anyone experience judder effect? especially watching live football match?

mind to share you guys resolution and color setting?

i using h96 max plus 4+64gb but i feel the screen feel like jumping when i set to rgb color mode 10bit, feel better with the ycbcr420 8bit mode
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the "jumping" is not due to chroma subsampling/color space.

check yr frame rate setting.

i think astrogo is in 1080/25hz... set to 25 or 50hz will give best results.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 6 2019, 12:55 PM)
as said, plenty has been discussed... do read back.

the list i posted... except for ATV/L1 devices, the rest should work with new astrogo app - they are unrooted and L3.

from that list, i personally can confirm himedia Q10pro, Tanix TX3mini and Tanix TX5max work fine - becos i have them.
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Thanks AVFAN. Mind to share where to buy? Any reliable online store to recommend?
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QUOTE(dkoh703 @ Aug 6 2019, 04:11 PM)
Thanks AVFAN. Mind to share where to buy? Any reliable online store to recommend?
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there are a hundred brands and a thousand models... and new ones come out all the time.

u have to do some work and decide which one suits u best becos only u know what u want.

however, strictly for astrogo, the cheapest and most effective box at this this time wud be Tanix TX3 mini.

for rm108, there is nothing to lose, really.

this model is well proven... u can google, read, watch youtube videos, etc.

many users, incl me... check:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4722095/+320

in that thread u will find recommended seller(s) at shopee.

the impt thing is u need to make sure it is 2+16GB Android7 with Superuser option in settings.

becos variations of the model like android8, OEM models, etc... may not have the superuser option to close root.

closing root is required to run astrogo (and unifi playtv).

read the thread, ask questions, users can assist.
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post Aug 7 2019, 07:02 AM

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QUOTE(azwandy @ Aug 5 2019, 03:12 PM)
nice job bro.. until then, we all have to wait till the smart programmer at atastr0 to come out with the solution.. drop this drm check if u dont need it.. l3 boxes all can stream hd live tv content without any issue..
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Don't hold your breathe.. They won't. Not in line with their current business model and or goals..

QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 5 2019, 03:31 PM)
I want to ask this, the lagging only happens to broadcast streaming but not VOD ? Possibly it is using different streaming mechanism then ?
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Yes.. Streaming live channels is significantly more difficult than VOD.. But from sender and receiver ends.

QUOTE(azwandy @ Aug 5 2019, 04:16 PM)
search yourself in shopee.. use this keyword:

android box mcmc

if all these boxes are mcmc certified, but contains illegal astr0 channels, unlicensed movies/tv shows, then i can say that mcmc approval is wayang only.. same with legal and illegal gambling..
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Please read my earlier post. Just because a device is certified doesn't mean they authorities laxed.. It just means that the box provided for verification met the criteria for certification.. They could have easily added in the illegal stuffs afterwards. Think cars, JPJ inspection and tinting.. Ppl remove, pass inspection..get certified.. Then go on out and retint back to illegal levels.. Same principle.

QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 5 2019, 04:37 PM)
The lagging does it happen to Android 8/9 devices ?
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Lagging related to device and how it's built.. Not really OS version dependent.

QUOTE(xxxgkssixxx @ Aug 5 2019, 11:21 PM)
Just contacted Astro... it's official doh.gif

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Expected.. Been shouting this from rooftops for so long.. Not sure why it's a surprise for most at this point.
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post Aug 7 2019, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(dkoh703 @ Aug 6 2019, 08:57 AM)
Same problem here  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif   Anyone know any non root android tv box that can run Astro Go?
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Minix devices such as the Neo U1. Some Mecool devices too and the Beelink GT-King.. All these discussions in the dedicated Android box thread too.. Visit and read..

QUOTE(dkoh703 @ Aug 6 2019, 11:12 AM)
The new Astro Go app have more restriction. Only allow mobile app and browser (in PC) to view. I tried with Safari in MacBook is ok. But when I tried mobile app on my Huawei phone with the USB-C to HDMI connector to Monitor, the app detected that and disallowed the viewing via external display.

Anyone has tested the new app with any TV box please share if it works.
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See above and that thread too..

QUOTE(vignaroli @ Aug 6 2019, 01:43 PM)
anyone experience judder effect? especially watching live football match?

mind to share you guys resolution and color setting?

i using h96 max plus 4+64gb but i feel the screen feel like jumping when i set to rgb color mode 10bit, feel better with the ycbcr420 8bit mode
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TV and device dependent.. No such issues on my end..at least not majorly.. It's hard to eliminate completely given that type of fast moving sport..

This post has been edited by voncrane: Aug 7 2019, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Aug 7 2019, 07:27 AM)
Minix devices such as the Neo U1. Some Mecool devices too and the Beelink GT-King.. All these discussions in the dedicated Android box thread too.. Visit and read..
See above and that thread too..
TV and device dependent.. No such issues on my end..at least not majorly.. It's hard to eliminate completely given that type of fast moving sport..
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You still have the Gt King L1 device right ? I think it was rooted, but you could try to install the hacked AstroGo ( to bypass root checking ) to see if it runs, that will tell us if the "hypothesis" that AstroGo has problem with L1 devices. Or since the beta is still working, you can also install the last beta, which does not check on root. If I remember correctly, you did claim that it runs on it. So the "hypothesis" that AstroGo has problem with L1 devices is wrong too.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 7 2019, 09:51 AM)
You still have the Gt King L1 device right ? I think it was rooted, but you could try to install the hacked AstroGo ( to bypass root checking ) to see if it runs, that will tell us if the "hypothesis" that AstroGo has problem with L1 devices. Or since the beta is still working, you can also install the last beta, which does not check on root. If I remember correctly, you did claim that it runs on it. So the "hypothesis" that AstroGo has problem with L1 devices is wrong too.
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I think the betas are now forced to update to official when u load it.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 7 2019, 09:51 AM)
You still have the Gt King L1 device right ? I think it was rooted, but you could try to install the hacked AstroGo ( to bypass root checking ) to see if it runs, that will tell us if the "hypothesis" that AstroGo has problem with L1 devices. Or since the beta is still working, you can also install the last beta, which does not check on root. If I remember correctly, you did claim that it runs on it. So the "hypothesis" that AstroGo has problem with L1 devices is wrong too.
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So far on either devices.. Don't need to run hacked anything.. Just official latest apks and smooth streams. Just tested and yep.. All good.. Yes, the stock ROM on the GT-King is rooted by default and can't be toggled off. Personally, I don't need too either.. I love root. Asterruk guys are smart. However, they aren't near Netflix level and don't have or won't be given access to the right tools to block server side. IMO, as Netflix (and pretty much any serious service provider) learnt long ago, blocking on the local device itself only works for a time. Live TV is hot stuff and the underground make a ton off it.

As for the Widevine DRM theory.. I don't buy it. As that's counterproductive. Widevine DRM EXISTS to provide increased encryption and protection of digital media on individual devices.. It's not a simple software hack you can just install later on a device. It's hardware level deep and the device itself must ship with it from the manufacturers. Naturally, guards are in place to ensure that manufacturers with access don't simply play games one with it.

To meet the highest security "Level 1", all content processing, cryptography, and control must be performed within the Trusted Execution Environment (TEE) of the device’s processor, to prevent external tampering and copying of the media file. All ARM Cortex-A processors implement TrustZone technology, creating a hardware separation that allows a trusted OS (such as Android) to create a TEE for DRM, and other secure applications.

Anyways the GT-King being able to run it disproved that.. The Neo U1 despite its age still able to run it also disproves that they check for it and make it a requirement.. Lastly, device problem.. A good device is just a good device. Well, until they cook up something else. Still.. I have high hopes the Neo U1 will still trump.

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 7 2019, 10:23 AM)
I think the betas are now forced to update to official when u load it.
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Yes..

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Aug 7 2019, 11:14 AM)
So far on either devices.. Don't need to run hacked anything.. Just official latest apks and smooth streams. Just tested and yep.. All good.. Yes, the stock ROM on the GT-King is rooted by default and can't be toggled off. Personally, I don't need too either.. I love root. Asterruk guys are smart. However, they aren't near Netflix level and don't have or won't be given access to the right tools to block server side. IMO, as Netflix (and pretty much any serious service provider) learnt long ago, blocking on the local device itself only works for a time. Live TV is hot stuff and the underground make a ton off it.

As for the Widevine DRM theory.. I don't buy it. As that's counterproductive. Widevine DRM EXISTS to provide increased encryption and protection of digital media on individual devices.. It's not a simple software hack you can just install later on a device. It's hardware level deep and the device itself must ship with it from the manufacturers. Naturally, guards are in place to ensure that manufacturers with access don't simply play games one with it.

To meet the highest security "Level 1", all content processing, cryptography, and control must be performed within the Trusted Execution Environment (TEE) of the device’s processor, to prevent external tampering and copying of the media file. All ARM Cortex-A processors implement TrustZone technology, creating a hardware separation that allows a trusted OS (such as Android) to create a TEE for DRM, and other secure applications.
Yes..
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You story is a bit long, but I figured that your answer is that the GT king being L1, has no problem with of lagging AstroGo.

So the L1 hypothesis is wrong. Period.

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