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post Jan 6 2020, 06:07 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 5 2020, 12:51 PM)
Just saw a review, a regular TVbox reviewer said 2G is enough. He isn't too far off, as Firetv cube = 2GB, Shield = 3GB, Minix neo U9 = 2GB, Ugoos Am6 = 2GB ....

But low end boxes are cheap anyway, 4GB/64GB with ddr4 memory is my pick. Value for money. I just read on freaktab, someone used TX3 s905x3 but he could not use CoreElec to play Netflix in 1080p, but a Beelink mini2 S905x3 ( same processor as Tx3 model ) could handle the 1080p Netflix movies. The price of additional memory and storage isn't much for a low end box.
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 5 2020, 10:33 PM)
From what I understand is that most of the cheap TV boxes out there running Android have DRAMs which are only limited to 32-bit wide bus.Despite boasting that their CPUs are 64-bit capable, their DRAM memory only restricts them to 32-bit addressing because their memory circuits are only that wide.

Moreover, most Android apps out there are only 32-bit based so they will not take advantage of utilizing more than 2GB of RAM.As described by this Wiki article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_GB_limit

I've tried maximizing my 4GB TV box memory utilization and despite opening as many apps as possible, it never reaches anywhere near 4GB but only around 2GB.
Never even close to 75%.

Think of it, why does Nvidia's latest Shield TV 2019 and Shield TV Pro 2019 don't even have more than 3GB of RAM for its Pro variant? They could have conquered the market and place like 8GB of RAM or more into their boxes. Why the regular Shield only has 2GB of RAM and the Pro have 3GB?

So these China cheap TV boxes with 4GB are just pushing some marketing gimmick to consumers which we'll never get to utilize put need to pay more so that they can push DRAM chips out into the market due to oversupply.
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You say marketing gimmick, others who can maximize or at least appreciate the bigger working table will say otherwise. smile.gif So I'll try to keep things simple... It's all back to the Super Car vs say an Axia. Both take you from point A to B differently. One clearly has more than enough power to chug along effortlessly. Whilst the other may or may not be enough. Who needs what, depends on the driver's needs.

There are RAM and there are high quality RAM. High quality RAM can be quite expensive. The Nvidia Shield sports 3GB RAM cuz they don't want to be caught with their pants down shipping with 2GB RAM. Why need more RAM? This is a case by case basis. Some or shall I say most can get away with just 2GB RAM and others who do more serious stuffs.. Such as high graphics gaming, whilst simultaneously running a pseudo-NAS and or torrents or home server, etc in the background will benefit with having higher than 2GB RAM. Heck, I prefer setting up as much free RAM as I can to run Kodi smoothly. Caching/buffering high bitrates videos using memory equals smoother uninterrupted playback. These are just examples of use case scenarios where one can exceed 2GB RAM usage on Android.

Android is pretty efficient where RAM management is concerned. However, other factors come into play. You need a decent firmware, RAM and processor. These in combination makes all the difference in launching apps, keeping more in a "saved state" or running, or exiting and opening/switching faster between apps.

Summarily, can 2GB RAM be enough? Yes. But just because it can, doesn't mean one can't do better with more than 2GB RAM. The Nvidia Shield with their excellent processor could have shipped with only a high quality 2GB RAM. But they didn't. I assume they knew and or pictured scenarios where their users will be limited by insufficient RAM. Who knows, the next one might just be equipped with at least 4GB RAM. Like phones of today, bet 5 years ago.. We didn't think we'd be seeing or needing phones with 12GB RAM. I'm sure a ton of people today will still argue that it's useless and 3GB RAM or less is more than enough.. But hey, here we are. Granted a TV Box and a phone are different beasts. But you get my point. Will I ever use up the entire 4GB and want more in a TV Box? High chance, nope. But I know for certain, I fill up 2GB and cry for more very easily. So yeah, contrary to popular beliefs, I'd rather have more than enough than just enough or not enough.

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 6 2020, 06:07 AM)
Heck, I prefer setting up as much free RAM as I can to run Kodi smoothly. Caching/buffering high bitrates videos using memory equals smoother uninterrupted playback. These are just examples of use case scenarios where one can exceed 2GB RAM usage on Android.
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that is correct, in my experience.

unless everything is very efficiently built, chances are 2gb ram will stutter when u playback 80-90mbps bit rate videos.

a 4gb ram box will do it with ease whether using kodi player or mx player.

of course, majority users may not be requiring this.
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post Jan 6 2020, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(suaji @ Dec 26 2019, 12:06 PM)
ASTROKK GOGO MOD TWO.194.2

Hihi geng..

I moded myself that apk. U can try install urself if u want.

I made 3 version moded. Which is mean, got 3 different decode included bypass SafetyNet checking root.

All files run success streaming in Rooted devices (VMOS-Virtual Root) and i have no Rooted Box, Only MiBox3.

Make sure, ur box got google play. Bcos of the SafetyNet.

Here is download link.

CODE

http://www.droidbin.com/p1dsels0vk1phe1cnd5vcmfh1k8t3 ASTROK1
http://bit.ly/2S7F9h5

http://www.droidbin.com/p1dselvglopu1t18f8asihkem3 ASTROK2
http://bit.ly/2Pz0Rst

http://www.droidbin.com/p1dsem12jljf9ata7h1s44c4c3 ASTRO3
http://bit.ly/2Q5aVbE

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Hi Bro, can i test on Hisense Android TV?
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post Jan 6 2020, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(IslamMakachev @ Jan 6 2020, 02:42 PM)
Hi Bro, can i test on Hisense Android TV?
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Test only, nobody stops you.

But you could just install the original one on play store, or the original one but stored on the apkpure site. No point installing a modded one.

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Does no one else get crash while watching aotg on their box? I watch for 2 hours it crashes 2 times. I'm thinking of getting a new box but I don't know if the app itself is bad, or the box software it's bad. So frustrating
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 6 2020, 01:42 PM)
that is correct, in my experience.

unless everything is very efficiently built, chances are 2gb ram will stutter when u playback 80-90mbps bit rate videos.

a 4gb ram box will do it with ease whether using kodi player or mx player.

of course, majority users may not be requiring this.
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Yup... As more and better HW pops up.. Needs grow.. I remember when camrips and TS files were sufficient for me.. Then later Yify came onboard and basically cornered the market with bluray rips at smaller sizes. Back then, i believe I was using a Noontec box.. Later Minix Neo X7, then up and up.. Now, it's either full 1-1 Bluray 1080p minimum.. Ideally proper 1-1 UHD x265 HDR10/DV for storage, etc... The more complex the files have become, the better the players must be to handle them... Makes me wonder what's next after Google's VP9 & HEVC/H.265 codecs for 8K res.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jan 6 2020, 10:56 PM)
Does no one else get crash while watching aotg on their box? I watch for 2 hours it crashes 2 times. I'm thinking of getting a new box but I don't know if the app itself is bad, or the box software it's bad. So frustrating
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I've experienced a crash or 2.. But not regularly. Some days, I can have the app running for hours on live TV without a single hiccup. Another time while watching a a backtracked channel, somewhere along the way, the app just crashes or pops an error. IIRC, something about this live view is finished or similar.. Then I have to hit the back button and restart the channel. What device and apk are you running?
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 7 2020, 02:10 AM)
Yup... As more and better HW pops up.. Needs grow.. I remember when camrips and TS files were sufficient for me.. Then later Yify came onboard and basically cornered the market with bluray rips at smaller sizes. Back then, i believe I was using a Noontec box.. Later Minix Neo X7, then up and up.. Now, it's either full 1-1 Bluray 1080p minimum.. Ideally proper 1-1 UHD x265 HDR10/DV for storage, etc... The more complex the files have become, the better the players must be to handle them... Makes me wonder what's next after Google's VP9 & HEVC/H.265 codecs for 8K res.. sweat.gif
I've experienced a crash or 2.. But not regularly. Some days, I can have the app running for hours on live TV without a single hiccup. Another time while watching a a backtracked channel, somewhere along the way, the app just crashes or pops an error. IIRC, something about this live view is finished or similar.. Then I have to hit the back button and restart the channel. What device and apk are you running?
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I'm using tx3 mini-A. I even reset the box. The apk is from apk pure. However I find something strange about this box, I think I got cheated, coz the ram of this box is only 1gb, but with 16gb storage. Normally I know it's either 1gb/8gb or 2gb/16gb.

My type of crash is where the app will just quit by itself and brings me back to tv box home screen. Could the issue cause by insufficient ram?
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jan 7 2020, 08:45 AM)
I'm using tx3 mini-A. I even reset the box. The apk is from apk pure. However I find something strange about this box, I think I got cheated, coz the ram of this box is only 1gb, but with 16gb storage. Normally I know it's either 1gb/8gb or 2gb/16gb.

My type of crash is where the app will just quit by itself and brings me back to tv box home screen. Could the issue cause by insufficient ram?
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1GB system misbehaves, nothing else to blame except too little memory. The system might have killed some necessary background processes thereby causing the foreground app to crash.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 6 2020, 06:07 AM)
You say marketing gimmick, others who can maximize or at least appreciate the bigger working table will say otherwise. smile.gif  So I'll try to keep things simple... It's all back to the Super Car vs say an Axia. Both take you from point A to B differently. One clearly has more than enough power to chug along effortlessly. Whilst the other may or may not be enough. Who needs what, depends on the driver's needs.

There are RAM and there are high quality RAM. High quality RAM can be quite expensive. The Nvidia Shield sports 3GB RAM cuz they don't want to be caught with their pants down shipping with 2GB RAM. Why need more RAM? This is a case by case basis. Some or shall I say most can get away with just 2GB RAM and others who do more serious stuffs.. Such as high graphics gaming, whilst simultaneously running a pseudo-NAS and or torrents or home server, etc in the background will benefit with having higher than 2GB RAM. Heck, I prefer setting up as much free RAM as I can to run Kodi smoothly. Caching/buffering high bitrates videos using memory equals smoother uninterrupted playback. These are just examples of use case scenarios where one can exceed 2GB RAM usage on Android.

Android is pretty efficient where RAM management is concerned. However, other factors come into play. You need a decent firmware, RAM and processor. These in combination makes all the difference in launching apps, keeping more in a "saved state" or running, or exiting and opening/switching faster between apps.

Summarily, can 2GB RAM be enough? Yes. But just because it can, doesn't mean one can't do better with more than 2GB RAM. The Nvidia Shield with their excellent processor could have shipped with only a high quality 2GB RAM. But they didn't. I assume they knew and or pictured scenarios where their users will be limited by insufficient RAM. Who knows, the next one might just be equipped with at least 4GB RAM. Like phones of today, bet 5 years ago.. We didn't think we'd be seeing or needing phones with 12GB RAM. I'm sure a ton of people today will still argue that it's useless and 3GB RAM or less is more than enough.. But hey, here we are. Granted a TV Box and a phone are different beasts. But you get my point. Will I ever use up the entire 4GB and want more in a TV Box? High chance, nope. But I know for certain, I fill up 2GB and cry for more very easily. So yeah, contrary to popular beliefs, I'd rather have more than enough than just enough or not enough.
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Here are some hidden facts.

1)The TV boxes out in the market currently despite having 64-bit capable processors are limited to only 32-bit wide system bus.
2)Also they are running on 32-bit Android OS with 32-bit apps.

These are the bottlenecks restricting the current design.Also it is very rare to find 64-bit based Android TV apps that could utilize more than 2GB of RAM.
Games probably but if I wanted to play games, I'd either choose a high performance game console or a gaming PC.
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jan 7 2020, 09:45 AM)
I'm using tx3 mini-A. I even reset the box. The apk is from apk pure. However I find something strange about this box, I think I got cheated, coz the ram of this box is only 1gb, but with 16gb storage. Normally I know it's either 1gb/8gb or 2gb/16gb.

My type of crash is where the app will just quit by itself and brings me back to tv box home screen. Could the issue cause by insufficient ram?
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install aida64 and reconfirm ur box ram capacity.. as tx3 mini variants are only 1GB/8GB and 2GB/16GB..
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jan 7 2020, 08:45 AM)
I'm using tx3 mini-A. I even reset the box. The apk is from apk pure. However I find something strange about this box, I think I got cheated, coz the ram of this box is only 1gb, but with 16gb storage. Normally I know it's either 1gb/8gb or 2gb/16gb.

My type of crash is where the app will just quit by itself and brings me back to tv box home screen. Could the issue cause by insufficient ram?
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Could be or simply the app doesn't play well with whatever fw you are running. Others gave some suggestions. Do verify actual HW and if really 1GB RAM? I'm sorry... Return and get your money back if possible.. Either way, either seek out other ROMs that might fare better or no choice, have to junk it and get a new box.

QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 7 2020, 09:48 AM)
Here are some hidden facts.

1)The TV boxes out in the market currently despite having 64-bit capable processors are limited to only 32-bit wide system bus.
2)Also they are running on 32-bit Android OS with 32-bit apps.

These are the bottlenecks restricting the current design.Also it is very rare to find 64-bit based Android TV apps that could utilize more than 2GB of RAM.
Games probably but if I wanted to play games, I'd either choose a high performance game console or a gaming PC.

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People already explain things to you..Give scenarios some more you still insist dunno what.. Very rare now equals impossible? pls... doh.gif

As for games... See that's the beauty of choice.. Android is versatile like that.. Some people prefer to game on Android or iOS or Macs or Consoles or PCs.. To each his own. Maybe I don't want to cough up money for a high performance game console (that pretty much does only one thing right) or even more money for a game PC rig, complete with UHD gaming monitors, controllers, stering wheels etc.. Maybe I just want a much cheaper yet beasty Android OS powered device, pair a cheapo yet versatile gamepad and just enjoy Android games? Also, when I want to play high bitrate media files, I can do the same with the same device. FYI, good luck trying to smoothly play (output full UHD + HDR10 + Dolby Atmos) high-bitrate files using your gaming rig and costing under RM1K.. I own a gaming laptop that costs at least 4 times more than the Beelink GT-King Pro and yet, where media playback is concerned.. The GT-King Pro will run circles around it.. Heck, even the GT-Mini 2 does the same..

You do you yeah.. I tire of this OT.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jan 7 2020, 08:45 AM)
I'm using tx3 mini-A. I even reset the box. The apk is from apk pure. However I find something strange about this box, I think I got cheated, coz the ram of this box is only 1gb, but with 16gb storage. Normally I know it's either 1gb/8gb or 2gb/16gb.

My type of crash is where the app will just quit by itself and brings me back to tv box home screen. Could the issue cause by insufficient ram?
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did u check under settings, more settings?

u can see the ino there - storage and memory.

under memory, u can see total ram of the box.


as for getting kicked out of astrogo, i have seen it with tx3mini wifi, happens sometimes but not often; doesn't happen with tx3 ethernet connected.

to be sure it is not due to wifi weak and/or unstable which can cause it, use ethernet and see if any diff.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 7 2020, 08:54 AM)
1GB system misbehaves, nothing else to blame except too little memory. The system might have killed some necessary background processes thereby causing the foreground app to crash.
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QUOTE(azwandy @ Jan 7 2020, 10:11 AM)
install aida64 and reconfirm ur box ram capacity.. as tx3 mini variants are only 1GB/8GB and 2GB/16GB..
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 7 2020, 11:49 AM)
Could be or simply the app doesn't play well with whatever fw you are running. Others gave some suggestions. Do verify actual HW and if really 1GB RAM? I'm sorry... Return and get your money back if possible.. Either way, either seek out other ROMs that might fare better or no choice, have to junk it and get a new box.
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I installed aida64 and confirmed only have 1gb ram installed. Total memory 855MB, available 300mb. Internal storage is 11.49gb. Weird. I bought it from lazada long time ago, but I didn't check that time. Just recently I play around saw the ram.

I also tired different firmware, all give the same result, frequent crash on astro go.

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 7 2020, 12:38 PM)
did u check under settings, more settings?

u can see the ino there - storage and memory.

under memory, u can see total ram of the box.
as for getting kicked out of astrogo, i have seen it with tx3mini wifi, happens sometimes but not often; doesn't happen with tx3 ethernet connected.

to be sure it is not due to wifi weak and/or unstable which can cause it, use ethernet and see if any diff.
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My modem is in another room so I can't connect using LAN. only can use wifi
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jan 7 2020, 02:14 PM)
I installed aida64 and confirmed only have 1gb ram installed. Total memory 855MB, available 300mb. Internal storage is 11.49gb. Weird. I bought it from lazada long time ago, but I didn't check that time. Just recently I play around saw the ram.

I also tired different firmware, all give the same result, frequent crash on astro go.
My modem is in another room so I can't connect using LAN. only can use wifi
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You can purchase a wifi router, say Tenda AC11. That will allow you to use LAN cable to your TV box.

You can't depend on these tv boxes for their wifi, unless the router is just next to it. But if tv boxes next to the router, why wifi ? It is simply just a paradox !


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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jan 7 2020, 02:14 PM)
I installed aida64 and confirmed only have 1gb ram installed. Total memory 855MB, available 300mb. Internal storage is 11.49gb. Weird. I bought it from lazada long time ago, but I didn't check that time. Just recently I play around saw the ram.

I also tired different firmware, all give the same result, frequent crash on astro go.
My modem is in another room so I can't connect using LAN. only can use wifi
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Looks like your tx3mini is one of the older ones, 1+16gb.

1gb is surely low, will be problematic overall.

Think time u dump it, get a real tx3. tongue.gif
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Did some research. tx3 s905x3 Have a problematic connection issue?
5g wifi is poor, lan also not so strong. Is this true? Can those who own it please comment
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QUOTE(Ralphy2098 @ Jan 8 2020, 09:39 AM)
Did some research. tx3 s905x3 Have a problematic connection issue?
5g wifi is poor, lan also not so strong. Is this true? Can those who own it please comment
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Lan should be acceptable, but cap at 100 Mbit implementation.

Not a GBit implementation, what else to expect ?
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jan 6 2020, 10:56 PM)
Does no one else get crash while watching aotg on their box? I watch for 2 hours it crashes 2 times. I'm thinking of getting a new box but I don't know if the app itself is bad, or the box software it's bad. So frustrating
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I'm having the same problem sad.gif

Box - Q10
App version - 2.194.2
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QUOTE(Ralphy2098 @ Jan 8 2020, 09:39 AM)
Did some research. tx3 s905x3 Have a problematic connection issue?
5g wifi is poor, lan also not so strong. Is this true? Can those who own it please comment
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I been using tx3 for couple of days, no issues with wifi, perhaps wifi router is just beside tx3 biggrin.gif , i ditch my mix box 3 for tx3 because aotg was having shutter/lag issues , through recommendation here, i'm willing to spend the dough on tx3, now aotg is flawless. I pray it stays this way! rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Ralphy2098 @ Jan 8 2020, 10:39 AM)
Did some research. tx3 s905x3 Have a problematic connection issue?
5g wifi is poor, lan also not so strong. Is this true? Can those who own it please comment
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https://androidpctv.com/review-tanix-tx3-s905x3-opinion/

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As for WiFi connectivity, the Tanix TX3 S905X3 has a fairly low performance in the 5G network with its Dual Band Wifi a/b/g/n adapter and only mounts an internal antenna. In addition, the range is also not the best, the Ethernet adapter is only 10/100 and we have a very basic IR control, some classic points of hardware trimming in the cheap Box models. On the other hand we have Android bars and root selector in the system, something that is appreciated.


TX6 is better in term of wifi performance

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