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yes. suggest u pick the 4+32gb variation.
detailed info on this box:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4722095/+960
Thanks mandetailed info on this box:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4722095/+960
Any recommended android box for Astro Go?
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Jan 3 2020, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 3 2020, 08:41 AM) yes. suggest u pick the 4+32gb variation. Thanks mandetailed info on this box: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4722095/+960 |
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anyone here using Ugoos Am6@pro version. aotg smooth or not?
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 3 2020, 08:41 AM) yes. suggest u pick the 4+32gb variation. Be careful when buying TV boxes above 2GB, correct me if I'm wrong most chipsets out in the market can only optimally support up to 2GB addressing. So if you're buying higher RAM it's just a gimmick, the box cannot utilize the extra RAM properly or will just go to waste.detailed info on this box: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4722095/+960 This is true particularly with Allwinner H6 boxes. https://linux-sunxi.org/images/5/5c/Allwinn...asheet_V1.1.pdf https://forum.armbian.com/topic/10174-since...sd-card/page/5/ Same can be similarly said with Amlogic series of processors. That's why you see why big companies such as TM are only sourcing 2GB variant boxes instead of 4GB which just costs a little more so why not future proof their products? |
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 3 2020, 01:19 PM) Be careful when buying TV boxes above 2GB, correct me if I'm wrong most chipsets out in the market can only optimally support up to 2GB addressing. So if you're buying higher RAM it's just a gimmick, the box cannot utilize the extra RAM properly or will just go to waste. I have tx3mini 2+16gb, tx5max 4+32gb and tx3 s905x3 4+64gb.This is true particularly with Allwinner H6 boxes. https://linux-sunxi.org/images/5/5c/Allwinn...asheet_V1.1.pdf https://forum.armbian.com/topic/10174-since...sd-card/page/5/ Same can be similarly said with Amlogic series of processors. That's why you see why big companies such as TM are only sourcing 2GB variant boxes instead of 4GB which just costs a little more so why not future proof their products? My recommendation is bsed on what i have used. I do not know allwinner, no comment on boxes that i have never used. |
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 3 2020, 01:51 PM) I have tx3mini 2+16gb, tx5max 4+32gb and tx3 s905x3 4+64gb. Just curious, can the tx3mini 2+16gb work fine for astro go. I just need astro go to watch some live sports anywayMy recommendation is bsed on what i have used. I do not know allwinner, no comment on boxes that i have never used. Also, did u buy with the astro go app pre-installed or have to download urself? This post has been edited by 8sg9ft: Jan 3 2020, 10:07 PM |
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Jan 3 2020, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jan 3 2020, 10:02 PM) Just curious, can the tx3mini 2+16gb work fine for astro go. I just need astro go to watch some live sports anyway tx3mini/max works fine with astrogo but...Also, did u buy with the astro go app pre-installed or have to download urself? .. the chipset is AML s905w, a low end one, >2 years old, not many boxes using it anymore. .. it comes in 2+16 as well as 2+8gb - a no. of users of 2+8gb (very cheap) has complained it gets sluggish often. .. the small higher price u pay is not just for the chipset or storage but all hardware, features and overall smoothness. .. i find the wifi module of tx3mini quite weak.... so, unless u use ethernet or is close to router, it is not the best choice although it is dirt cheap. .. while u may want to go as cheap as u can, keep in mind saving rm30, rm50 may give u headaches after a few weeks or months. .. more so when u want to do more with the box. tx5max uses a better AML chipset s905x2 and has gigabit port, ac wifi... however, this model is no longer being sold. tx3 s905x3 is the latest model with newer AML s905x3. can expect another tx3 model to come soon since AML s905x4 is now available. the good news is tx3 (mini, max, s905x3) come with a simple root switch; it is easy to run astrogo. u dun need any modified version... just get the current official apk to sideload it. preinstalled is meaningless becos new versions come out every month or 2.. u need to update. This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jan 3 2020, 11:11 PM |
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 3 2020, 10:40 PM) tx3mini/max works fine with astrogo but... Got u on all points except the last part. Never had a tv box before. .. the chipset is AML s905w, a low end one, >2 years old, not many boxes using it anymore. .. it comes in 2+16 as well as 2+8gb - a no. of users of 2+8gb (very cheap) has complained it gets sluggish often. .. the small higher price u pay is not just for the chipset or storage but all hardware, features and overall smoothness. .. i find the wifi module of tx3mini quite weak.... so, unless u use ethernet or is close to router, it is not the best choice although it is dirt cheap. .. while u may want to go as cheap as u can, keep in mind saving rm30, rm50 may give u headaches after a few weeks or months. .. more so when u want to do more with the box. tx5max uses a better AML chipset s905x2 and has gigabit port, ac wifi... however, this model is no longer being sold. tx3 s905x3 is the latest model with newer AML s905x3. can expect another tx3 model to come soon since AML s905x4 is now available. the good news is tx3 (mini, max, s905x3) come with a simple root switch; it is easy to run astrogo. u dun need any modified version... just get the current official apk to sideload it. preinstalled is meaningless becos new versions come out every month or 2.. u need to update. - When u say “a simple root switch”, is it a physical switch or has to be done inside the user interface? Not sure what the difference between rooted and unrooted too. - modified version of astro go u mean? - what’s sideload? Sorry, noob here. Lol |
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jan 3 2020, 11:31 PM) Got u on all points except the last part. Never had a tv box before. the switch where u find the option to click open or close with the mouse. - When u say “a simple root switch”, is it a physical switch or has to be done inside the user interface? Not sure what the difference between rooted and unrooted too. - modified version of astro go u mean? - what’s sideload? Sorry, noob here. Lol if u read more, u will find some users are using modified versions becos the box cannot run the official version(s). sideload means u have the apk file or app in yr usb drive, u stick into the usb port and install with a file browser or file manager app. direct load is when u install using google playstore of the device. |
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 3 2020, 01:19 PM) Be careful when buying TV boxes above 2GB, correct me if I'm wrong most chipsets out in the market can only optimally support up to 2GB addressing. So if you're buying higher RAM it's just a gimmick, the box cannot utilize the extra RAM properly or will just go to waste. Wrong.. TM is just being a cheapskate company. That's why.. Think about it, since when they gave a decent router? Despite all the complaints people have given about the TM provided routers such as the C1200... Still they'll just replace with a similarly performing or shit router. TM offers 800Mbps plan and yet the provided router can only go up till 3xxMbps over Wi-Fi.. Anyways, it's the same thing with their STB.. Look at theirs, look at Astro's and you tell me which is the obvious better box? With significantly better HD Audio and UHD support. This is true particularly with Allwinner H6 boxes. https://linux-sunxi.org/images/5/5c/Allwinn...asheet_V1.1.pdf https://forum.armbian.com/topic/10174-since...sd-card/page/5/ Same can be similarly said with Amlogic series of processors. That's why you see why big companies such as TM are only sourcing 2GB variant boxes instead of 4GB which just costs a little more so why not future proof their products? Regarding higher RAM usage.. I can attest to higher than 2GB usage in certain 4GB RAM equipped boxes. Allwinner, RK, etc.. I'm not a fan of those.. Since past few years AMLogic SoCs on the other hand, just need manufacturers or custom ROM chefs to build proper firmwares and kernels to tap into the hardware. |
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 3 2020, 01:19 PM) Be careful when buying TV boxes above 2GB, correct me if I'm wrong most chipsets out in the market can only optimally support up to 2GB addressing. So if you're buying higher RAM it's just a gimmick, the box cannot utilize the extra RAM properly or will just go to waste. Just saw a review, a regular TVbox reviewer said 2G is enough. He isn't too far off, as Firetv cube = 2GB, Shield = 3GB, Minix neo U9 = 2GB, Ugoos Am6 = 2GB ....This is true particularly with Allwinner H6 boxes. https://linux-sunxi.org/images/5/5c/Allwinn...asheet_V1.1.pdf https://forum.armbian.com/topic/10174-since...sd-card/page/5/ Same can be similarly said with Amlogic series of processors. That's why you see why big companies such as TM are only sourcing 2GB variant boxes instead of 4GB which just costs a little more so why not future proof their products? But low end boxes are cheap anyway, 4GB/64GB with ddr4 memory is my pick. Value for money. I just read on freaktab, someone used TX3 s905x3 but he could not use CoreElec to play Netflix in 1080p, but a Beelink mini2 S905x3 ( same processor as Tx3 model ) could handle the 1080p Netflix movies. The price of additional memory and storage isn't much for a low end box. This post has been edited by puchongite: Jan 5 2020, 07:36 PM |
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Bro does your modded APK compatible with 4K Android TV which have videop lagging issue in HD rendering?
QUOTE(suaji @ Dec 26 2019, 12:06 PM) ASTROKK GOGO MOD TWO.194.2 Hihi geng.. I moded myself that apk. U can try install urself if u want. I made 3 version moded. Which is mean, got 3 different decode included bypass SafetyNet checking root. All files run success streaming in Rooted devices (VMOS-Virtual Root) and i have no Rooted Box, Only MiBox3. Make sure, ur box got google play. Bcos of the SafetyNet. Here is download link. CODE http://www.droidbin.com/p1dsels0vk1phe1cnd5vcmfh1k8t3 ASTROK1 http://bit.ly/2S7F9h5 http://www.droidbin.com/p1dselvglopu1t18f8asihkem3 ASTROK2 http://bit.ly/2Pz0Rst http://www.droidbin.com/p1dsem12jljf9ata7h1s44c4c3 ASTRO3 http://bit.ly/2Q5aVbE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 4 2020, 08:27 AM) Wrong.. TM is just being a cheapskate company. That's why.. Think about it, since when they gave a decent router? Despite all the complaints people have given about the TM provided routers such as the C1200... Still they'll just replace with a similarly performing or shit router. TM offers 800Mbps plan and yet the provided router can only go up till 3xxMbps over Wi-Fi.. Anyways, it's the same thing with their STB.. Look at theirs, look at Astro's and you tell me which is the obvious better box? With significantly better HD Audio and UHD support. From what I understand is that most of the cheap TV boxes out there running Android have DRAMs which are only limited to 32-bit wide bus.Despite boasting that their CPUs are 64-bit capable, their DRAM memory only restricts them to 32-bit addressing because their memory circuits are only that wide.Regarding higher RAM usage.. I can attest to higher than 2GB usage in certain 4GB RAM equipped boxes. Allwinner, RK, etc.. I'm not a fan of those.. Since past few years AMLogic SoCs on the other hand, just need manufacturers or custom ROM chefs to build proper firmwares and kernels to tap into the hardware. Moreover, most Android apps out there are only 32-bit based so they will not take advantage of utilizing more than 2GB of RAM.As described by this Wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_GB_limit I've tried maximizing my 4GB TV box memory utilization and despite opening as many apps as possible, it never reaches anywhere near 4GB but only around 2GB. Never even close to 75%. Think of it, why does Nvidia's latest Shield TV 2019 and Shield TV Pro 2019 don't even have more than 3GB of RAM for its Pro variant? They could have conquered the market and place like 8GB of RAM or more into their boxes. Why the regular Shield only has 2GB of RAM and the Pro have 3GB? So these China cheap TV boxes with 4GB are just pushing some marketing gimmick to consumers which we'll never get to utilize put need to pay more so that they can push DRAM chips out into the market due to oversupply. |
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 5 2020, 12:51 PM) Just saw a review, a regular TVbox reviewer said 2G is enough. He isn't too far off, as Firetv cube = 2GB, Shield = 3GB, Minix neo U9 = 2GB, Ugoos Am6 = 2GB .... But low end boxes are cheap anyway, 4GB/64GB with ddr4 memory is my pick. Value for money. I just read on freaktab, someone used TX3 s905x3 but he could not use CoreElec to play Netflix in 1080p, but a Beelink mini2 S905x3 ( same processor as Tx3 model ) could handle the 1080p Netflix movies. The price of additional memory and storage isn't much for a low end box. QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 5 2020, 10:33 PM) From what I understand is that most of the cheap TV boxes out there running Android have DRAMs which are only limited to 32-bit wide bus.Despite boasting that their CPUs are 64-bit capable, their DRAM memory only restricts them to 32-bit addressing because their memory circuits are only that wide. You say marketing gimmick, others who can maximize or at least appreciate the bigger working table will say otherwise. Moreover, most Android apps out there are only 32-bit based so they will not take advantage of utilizing more than 2GB of RAM.As described by this Wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_GB_limit I've tried maximizing my 4GB TV box memory utilization and despite opening as many apps as possible, it never reaches anywhere near 4GB but only around 2GB. Never even close to 75%. Think of it, why does Nvidia's latest Shield TV 2019 and Shield TV Pro 2019 don't even have more than 3GB of RAM for its Pro variant? They could have conquered the market and place like 8GB of RAM or more into their boxes. Why the regular Shield only has 2GB of RAM and the Pro have 3GB? So these China cheap TV boxes with 4GB are just pushing some marketing gimmick to consumers which we'll never get to utilize put need to pay more so that they can push DRAM chips out into the market due to oversupply. There are RAM and there are high quality RAM. High quality RAM can be quite expensive. The Nvidia Shield sports 3GB RAM cuz they don't want to be caught with their pants down shipping with 2GB RAM. Why need more RAM? This is a case by case basis. Some or shall I say most can get away with just 2GB RAM and others who do more serious stuffs.. Such as high graphics gaming, whilst simultaneously running a pseudo-NAS and or torrents or home server, etc in the background will benefit with having higher than 2GB RAM. Heck, I prefer setting up as much free RAM as I can to run Kodi smoothly. Caching/buffering high bitrates videos using memory equals smoother uninterrupted playback. These are just examples of use case scenarios where one can exceed 2GB RAM usage on Android. Android is pretty efficient where RAM management is concerned. However, other factors come into play. You need a decent firmware, RAM and processor. These in combination makes all the difference in launching apps, keeping more in a "saved state" or running, or exiting and opening/switching faster between apps. Summarily, can 2GB RAM be enough? Yes. But just because it can, doesn't mean one can't do better with more than 2GB RAM. The Nvidia Shield with their excellent processor could have shipped with only a high quality 2GB RAM. But they didn't. I assume they knew and or pictured scenarios where their users will be limited by insufficient RAM. Who knows, the next one might just be equipped with at least 4GB RAM. Like phones of today, bet 5 years ago.. We didn't think we'd be seeing or needing phones with 12GB RAM. I'm sure a ton of people today will still argue that it's useless and 3GB RAM or less is more than enough.. But hey, here we are. Granted a TV Box and a phone are different beasts. But you get my point. Will I ever use up the entire 4GB and want more in a TV Box? High chance, nope. But I know for certain, I fill up 2GB and cry for more very easily. So yeah, contrary to popular beliefs, I'd rather have more than enough than just enough or not enough. This post has been edited by voncrane: Jan 6 2020, 06:35 AM |
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 6 2020, 06:07 AM) Heck, I prefer setting up as much free RAM as I can to run Kodi smoothly. Caching/buffering high bitrates videos using memory equals smoother uninterrupted playback. These are just examples of use case scenarios where one can exceed 2GB RAM usage on Android. that is correct, in my experience.unless everything is very efficiently built, chances are 2gb ram will stutter when u playback 80-90mbps bit rate videos. a 4gb ram box will do it with ease whether using kodi player or mx player. of course, majority users may not be requiring this. |
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QUOTE(suaji @ Dec 26 2019, 12:06 PM) ASTROKK GOGO MOD TWO.194.2 Hi Bro, can i test on Hisense Android TV?Hihi geng.. I moded myself that apk. U can try install urself if u want. I made 3 version moded. Which is mean, got 3 different decode included bypass SafetyNet checking root. All files run success streaming in Rooted devices (VMOS-Virtual Root) and i have no Rooted Box, Only MiBox3. Make sure, ur box got google play. Bcos of the SafetyNet. Here is download link. CODE http://www.droidbin.com/p1dsels0vk1phe1cnd5vcmfh1k8t3 ASTROK1 http://bit.ly/2S7F9h5 http://www.droidbin.com/p1dselvglopu1t18f8asihkem3 ASTROK2 http://bit.ly/2Pz0Rst http://www.droidbin.com/p1dsem12jljf9ata7h1s44c4c3 ASTRO3 http://bit.ly/2Q5aVbE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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QUOTE(IslamMakachev @ Jan 6 2020, 02:42 PM) Test only, nobody stops you. But you could just install the original one on play store, or the original one but stored on the apkpure site. No point installing a modded one. This post has been edited by puchongite: Jan 6 2020, 05:23 PM |
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Does no one else get crash while watching aotg on their box? I watch for 2 hours it crashes 2 times. I'm thinking of getting a new box but I don't know if the app itself is bad, or the box software it's bad. So frustrating
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 6 2020, 01:42 PM) that is correct, in my experience. Yup... As more and better HW pops up.. Needs grow.. I remember when camrips and TS files were sufficient for me.. Then later Yify came onboard and basically cornered the market with bluray rips at smaller sizes. Back then, i believe I was using a Noontec box.. Later Minix Neo X7, then up and up.. Now, it's either full 1-1 Bluray 1080p minimum.. Ideally proper 1-1 UHD x265 HDR10/DV for storage, etc... The more complex the files have become, the better the players must be to handle them... Makes me wonder what's next after Google's VP9 & HEVC/H.265 codecs for 8K res.. unless everything is very efficiently built, chances are 2gb ram will stutter when u playback 80-90mbps bit rate videos. a 4gb ram box will do it with ease whether using kodi player or mx player. of course, majority users may not be requiring this. QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jan 6 2020, 10:56 PM) Does no one else get crash while watching aotg on their box? I watch for 2 hours it crashes 2 times. I'm thinking of getting a new box but I don't know if the app itself is bad, or the box software it's bad. So frustrating I've experienced a crash or 2.. But not regularly. Some days, I can have the app running for hours on live TV without a single hiccup. Another time while watching a a backtracked channel, somewhere along the way, the app just crashes or pops an error. IIRC, something about this live view is finished or similar.. Then I have to hit the back button and restart the channel. What device and apk are you running? |
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 7 2020, 02:10 AM) Yup... As more and better HW pops up.. Needs grow.. I remember when camrips and TS files were sufficient for me.. Then later Yify came onboard and basically cornered the market with bluray rips at smaller sizes. Back then, i believe I was using a Noontec box.. Later Minix Neo X7, then up and up.. Now, it's either full 1-1 Bluray 1080p minimum.. Ideally proper 1-1 UHD x265 HDR10/DV for storage, etc... The more complex the files have become, the better the players must be to handle them... Makes me wonder what's next after Google's VP9 & HEVC/H.265 codecs for 8K res.. I'm using tx3 mini-A. I even reset the box. The apk is from apk pure. However I find something strange about this box, I think I got cheated, coz the ram of this box is only 1gb, but with 16gb storage. Normally I know it's either 1gb/8gb or 2gb/16gb. I've experienced a crash or 2.. But not regularly. Some days, I can have the app running for hours on live TV without a single hiccup. Another time while watching a a backtracked channel, somewhere along the way, the app just crashes or pops an error. IIRC, something about this live view is finished or similar.. Then I have to hit the back button and restart the channel. What device and apk are you running? My type of crash is where the app will just quit by itself and brings me back to tv box home screen. Could the issue cause by insufficient ram? |
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