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 The SSD Thread V6, Solid State Drive, Continued.

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post Nov 1 2017, 05:24 PM

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Anyone know the distri for Crucial SSDs? Trying to find their BX300 series SATA SSDs, so far with no avail.
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post Nov 1 2017, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(Sprit @ Nov 1 2017, 05:24 PM)
Anyone know the distri for Crucial SSDs? Trying to find their BX300 series SATA SSDs, so far with no avail.
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no idea. here is the list of distributors, https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/505086 have you tried search engines?

alternatively you can also order from crucial.com if for some reasons you must use the particular model.
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post Nov 2 2017, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 1 2017, 05:38 PM)
no idea. here is the list of distributors, https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/505086 have you tried search engines?

alternatively you can also order from crucial.com if for some reasons you must use the particular model.
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Thanks for the link. Apparently there aren't anyone carrying Crucial atm. Out of the list of two distributors, I think one went out of business while the other only carry Micron's enterprise SSDs. crucial.com is the best bet for Crucial SSDs then. As to why, you've also mentioned in a previous post the BX300 is one of the rare consumer SSDs that employs MLC over TLC.
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post Nov 2 2017, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Sprit @ Nov 2 2017, 10:26 AM)
Thanks for the link. Apparently there aren't anyone carrying Crucial atm. Out of the list of two distributors, I think one went out of business while the other only carry Micron's enterprise SSDs. crucial.com is the best bet for Crucial SSDs then. As to why, you've also mentioned in a previous post the BX300 is one of the rare consumer SSDs that employs MLC over TLC.
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oh no wonder the coverage of crucial drives is so low now. the damage and impacts due to bad ratings of previous ssd releases were really serious.

bx300 is indeed a good option. to some extents, it's crucial's attempt to gain back market shares and consumer confidence imo.
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post Nov 2 2017, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Oct 22 2017, 02:42 PM)
Quick question, Rm600 for 850 Evo (500GB) worth it?
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hello, can you tell me where you find that ssd on that price?
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post Nov 3 2017, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(dexaran @ Nov 2 2017, 10:41 PM)
hello, can you tell me where you find that ssd on that price?
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Singapore
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post Nov 3 2017, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Nov 3 2017, 12:38 AM)
Singapore
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damn good price. we need bulk order from sg.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 3 2017, 01:58 PM)
damn good price. we need bulk order from sg.
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It's based on luck. That was the cheapest I found, next to that is $212
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QUOTE(horns @ Oct 28 2017, 02:18 PM)
seriously? please show us one such results, and the exact mobo model of your asus z270 in question.

(the ones that i found didn't use asus boards, but apparently those boards support nvme ssds. the 'issues' were due to users not knowing how to configure their boards, or did something wrong)
yeah that price also, although it's much cheaper than the previous enterprise-level p4800x.

well, at least it's now in consumer market haha after a few years we should expect some other relatively affordable choices.

normal users really don't need this lol it's for prosumers actually.
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post Nov 10 2017, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Nov 10 2017, 06:03 AM)
Proud pc master race here😄😄👍👍💻💻💸💸

Every day sure got new hardware launch unlike konsol and iphone hahahaha
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haha a lot of sellers also raise the price ridiculously because of rare stuff like 900p. it's currently at least double of msrp biggrin.gif

intel optane/xpoint is a better technology for ssd. however the even better one is the part when they replace ram; relatively cheaper, and can provide more capacities.


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Saw two WD blue 250gb SSD, one is NAND and one is not. Is there any difference between them? Which one should I buy for OS?
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post Nov 12 2017, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Nov 12 2017, 12:49 AM)
Saw two WD blue 250gb SSD, one is NAND and one is not. Is there any difference between them? Which one should I buy for OS?
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what do you mean? all current wd ssds use nand. what's the other one that doesn't use nand?
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post Nov 12 2017, 07:29 PM

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hey hi guys
i need help with m.2 stuff. i'm really confused. need some examples if possible
the board im using is Asus Z170p-d3
it has an m.2 slot with 'M' key

mobo link

If im not mistaken to tap in to the speed of the nvme x4 pcie, i will need pcie x4 speed on board, meaning sharing. I have a GPU slot x16 and another secondary pcie x16. If I were to plug in an m.2 ssd, that means it will bring down my gpu to x8 or so? even with nvme x4 and normal m.2 @ x2?

ps : how to know the drives (ssd drives) is x4 or x2?

I'm really confused like no daylight here. pls someone help and give examples?
as i've never played with m.2 before

thanks

This post has been edited by Shoot@M3: Nov 12 2017, 07:30 PM
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post Nov 13 2017, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(Shoot@M3 @ Nov 12 2017, 07:29 PM)
hey hi guys
i need help with m.2 stuff. i'm really confused. need some examples if possible
the board im using is Asus Z170p-d3
it has an m.2 slot with 'M' key

mobo link

If im not mistaken to tap in to the speed of the nvme x4 pcie, i will need pcie x4 speed on board, meaning sharing. I have a GPU slot x16 and another secondary pcie x16. If I were to plug in an m.2 ssd, that means it will bring down my gpu to x8 or so? even with nvme x4 and normal m.2 @ x2?

ps : how to know the drives (ssd drives) is x4 or x2?

I'm really confused like no daylight here. pls someone help and give examples?
as i've never played with m.2 before

thanks
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i guess you should refer to its mobo manual for this, then do trials and errors. you might be able to use tools like hwinfo64 for effective pcie lanes used; or you can also email asus support directly for answers.

my best guess is that the pci-e lanes for m.2 slot is from z170 chip. for gpu you should still get x16.
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post Nov 13 2017, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 12 2017, 02:05 AM)
what do you mean? all current wd ssds use nand. what's the other one that doesn't use nand?
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What I mean was this

WD blue ssd no mention of NAND

and this

This one got mentioned NAND
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post Nov 13 2017, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Nov 13 2017, 06:48 AM)
both use nand flash; tlc nand to be exact. you should have checked their respective tech sheets to make sure, or at least checked out tech review sites to get to know more. the difference is that the old one uses planar tlc, while the newer one uses 3d tlc nand
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post Nov 13 2017, 03:13 PM

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thanks bro
yeah i just downloaded and went thru the manual about PCIE and M.2
it did say if plug in 2nd GPU card, 2nd one will be x4 (x4 is good enuf for nvme)
I guess the M.2 Key M slot is only for M
but the B key drive can also plug into the pcie lanes on the 2nd slot
reason im asking is dun wana buy wrong drive and end up selling it off later
anyway, i probably need to do trial error here already

cheers

Edit: Just found out i can't connect m.2 directly onto my PCIE port, need the pcie card adapter for this..
oh well, time to hit the garage sales looking for another M key M.2 drive it is then..
QUOTE(horns @ Nov 13 2017, 02:01 AM)
i guess you should refer to its mobo manual for this, then do trials and errors. you might be able to use tools like hwinfo64 for effective pcie lanes used; or you can also email asus support directly for answers.

my best guess is that the pci-e lanes for m.2 slot is from z170 chip. for gpu you should still get x16.
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post Nov 13 2017, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Shoot@M3 @ Nov 13 2017, 03:13 PM)
thanks bro
yeah i just downloaded and went thru the manual about PCIE and M.2
it did say if plug in 2nd GPU card, 2nd one will be x4 (x4 is good enuf for nvme)
I guess the M.2 Key M slot is only for M
but the B key drive can also plug into the pcie lanes on the 2nd slot
reason im asking is dun wana buy wrong drive and end up selling it off later
anyway, i probably need to do trial error here already

cheers

Edit: Just found out i can't connect m.2 directly onto my PCIE port, need the pcie card adapter for this..
oh well, time to hit the garage sales looking for another M key M.2 drive it is then..
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if the manual or specs said the m.2 slot supported both pcie and sata ssds, usually it means it's compatible for both m and b key ssds.

using pcie adapter with heat sink or fan is a better option, because you can reduce heat impacts on ssd significantly. just be sure to check compatibility with the ssd that you're going to use first. (e.g. for m key ssds you can use adapter from asus, or third party adapters)

since you are gonna use pcie slots, it's better to use pcie ssds so that it at least can run at x4 full speed.
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post Nov 13 2017, 04:09 PM

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you sure about this bro?
as the website and specs did say for M key
It's not for B key i think
and yeah it is compatible with sata/pcie on my board
but could be some M key drive out there only runs on sata lanes?

so a B key drive for my mobo is a no no i think
QUOTE(horns @ Nov 13 2017, 04:01 PM)
if the manual or specs said the m.2 slot supported both pcie and sata ssds, usually it means it's compatible for both m and b key ssds.
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