Is Sentul to KL nearer than Cheras EH to KL?

Guocoland, Hong Leong's subsidiary.

I'm from PJ, decided on EH, not because of the location, but the development itself. I want to stay in a private community, with good facilities and away from city noises, this fits the criteria. Btw, I was told most of the purchasers are buying for own stay, which is good to create a healthy neighbourhood.

I second this. I’m not staying in Cheras. The one main factor that I’m sort of letting go choosing this is the location. It’s nowhere near workplace or places I usually go. Everyone keeps telling me it’s really jam too. But it’s selling the type of community and neighborhood that I would want to go home to everyday. Hopefully it’s worth it.

On HOC I think my agent was as surprised as I was lol. 🤦🏼‍♀️ But she also said that Guocoland are in the midst of applying but didn’t tell them when the result will be notified.

Sentul (using Fennel) as the location point is half the distance to KLCC when compared EH.

Some people must drive really nice cars or love spending time on the infamous Greater KL Transit system to want to spend so much of their time in a day commuting.

Ya quite surprised....as I heard the HOC going to be ended in June, feel a bit weird if Guoco just jumped into the application. Quite skeptical also with the sales person's statement that the existing buyers will be benefited with the additional reward if HOC application is approved. Because usually the developer won't give any new promo benefits to the existing buyers who has already sealed the deal....Not too sure but it may be a tactic for the sales person to close the deal. Btw been there last year, I feel EH has it's own advantage compared to the other projects in Cheras KL. As this gng township comes with the large open spaces and nice hilltop greenery. Probably a spectacular environment for own stay.

This post has been edited by peacemind80: May 8 2019, 02:09 AM

landed yes but not condo.

Guacoland so big no internal sales team and need to rely on outside appointed agents to do the sales for them?

lagi nak hold on to 4 to 5 yrs baru can start biz for these so called abandoned shoplots????

you really do believe the agents.

can name 3 previous prestige projects done by Guacoland that inspired you to pick them?

can also name who told you most purchasers are buying for own stay? which other projects purchasers were not buying for ownstay?

Good to know who not from Cheras also considering to stay here. But I do not think their marketing is that effective right? I guess... Maybe someone from Cheras recommended it to you.... Again, I assume...

Yes, if most purchasers buy it for own stay... Then all will make sure this community functional and well maintained... I always afraid to buy a house for own stay but surrounded with all those "to let/to sale" board...

When I walked in, no one seem to entertain me, except one friendly internal SA.... When I text one of them before visiting their sale gallery, she answered but she didnt follow up with me... Comparing to external SA for other projects, they keep on following up until I told them I already considering to buy EH... Then only they stop and congrats me for make a right choice.... But they also ask me why I didn't tell them earlier that they can sell this EH to me.... Haha... You see... How's aggressive external SA comparing to internal SA....

For me, it is Emerald Rawang... I think already 15 years back then.... My impression to this emerald Rawang was during those days... I didn't follow up after that...

If condo... If I currently stay in Sentul, I will prefer to choose the shortest path to office...

i have booked 2 storeys unit, yet to apply loan.. the distance between sentul to midvalley is same as EH to midvalley. my concern is more on primary school, child day care as im not familar with cheras area.

1. I do not pick this development for the reason being "prestigious". There's so many developments out there to choose, it's either I like it and I can afford it or I don't.

2. My SA told me. I think it's a fair point to make. I do not see it as a prospective location to rent out.

Not at all. The first time I get to know EH is through property fair in Sunway Pyramid just a month ago.

That is a double edged sword there. A very sharp one at that.

If a project is mostly bought by own stayers at its launch, at the onset of the 5th year you will start finding more and more renters and probably subsales.

If a project at its launch are mostly purchased by investors, in 5 years the number of investors would have halved to 25% and by the 10th year very few units would remain in the hands of investors but own stayers.

Best to buy a place which has a good mix.

yeah, landed one is more valuable especially in Cheras area but too bad i can't afford

I don't really get the reason behind it.... Even after five years, some own stayed owners want to upgrade and subsale their unit... The next purchaser will still buy for the meant own stay...

I'm also not from Cheras, but decided to go for one of the new launches in this area.

For me, I'll only deal with 3rd party SAs when it comes to subsale, not new launches. Had some bad experiences dealing with a few new launches with those SAs. Don't really like their incessant follow-up even after I flatly turned them down. And when that happens, then they will recommend other projects which I'm not interested in.

Worst is when they blare about some new launch project with the lowest selling price and other details, but fail to give the name and exact location, forcing you accept their offer, only then will they reveal the rest.

I suspect that most buyers of the new launch projects did not really reveal their true intentions of buying a unit there, so it isn't easy to gauge if a project is made up of majority own-stayers or investors or an equal measure of both.

Based on my sister's friend staying at Scenaria when it was just completed a year ago, she noted that there are quite a number of low-class foreigners and less-desirable tenants staying there, especially the uncivilised Kepong folks, which gives the impression that many bought to flip, but they're unable to do so due to the downturn, so they resort to selling it at lower than their SPA price or renting it out dirt cheap to reduce on their monthly instalment (and when both fails, they end up under lelong).

That's not to say that there aren't owners who bought genuinely for own-stay, but due to some personal reasons, they're forced to sell it and move out. I'm sure there are a few such cases, but it would pale in comparison to the number of owners who bought just to flip it upon completion.

you yourself said you bought this place is not bcos of location but strictly bcos of the developer. there must be reason why you liked tis developer so much....was it bcos the manager was an ex dpc fame? have you seen any of guocoland projects prior to this? the reason why they even build the pool and club house before launch?

you already wanted to believe this development is mainly for ownstay irrespective what SA said. saved for those obvious investment taargetted small units macam empire punya products, most exsim products most SA are trained to say its for own stay.

you know how they know? bcos there is a form for every purchaser to fill up.....and no one in the right mind will put 'investment purposes' bcos the loan margin is lower and the rate is higher than conventional housing loan.