Yes, it is my birthday on the 16 February

Thank you my dear brother

A part at a time.
Of course why i did not copy the whole chapter is to not show u a whole long list of things to read when there by default there already are..

but lets look into the verses you quoted. Interesting i should say.
Here's just one :

"For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.." - 2 Peter 2:20
This is your copy.
Look into who 'they' refer to.

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction".
2 Peter 2:1.
and of course through out the entire verse, there are illustrations of how God cannot stand sin but yet giving grace to Lot. And also how God will protect the godly from temptation. So 'they' come in to the picture more in verse 12.
"But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;"

My friend, 'they', to begin with, do you realize the group of people 'they' are the group of people that are not saved?.
Thats why we pick the the right books to read and even after reading, base it back to the Bible.

And once more back to Ezekiel 18:24.
Read from the start and you may realize that this is written to show the seriousness of sin (Ezekiel 18:20-24),the fairness of God judging sin (Ezekiel 18:25), and the grace God offers through Jesus (Ezekiel 18:27).

I can understand Catholics preach a very different picture. The continuation of salvation through works. And unfortunately, some Protestant churches still practice the old habits from Catholic churches.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ,"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:Not of works, lest any man should boast."
This is a very straightforward verse on the grace of salvation that is given freely.
Like I've said in previous posts, salvation must bear fruits. this portion is back to your statement on Christians with CONTINUOUS SINNING. Having salvation is not having the license to Sin. Cos if that is the case, then salvation, as i've said numerous times, is in DOUBT.

As in the parable of the seeds, as in Matthew 13, Luke 8, those who are TRULY saved, but without fruits (your term of CONTINUOUS SINNING), shall have a shorter time on earth. Matthew 7:19," Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire."


But if you really study on 1 Peter 1, you will realize the Gospel elements are there, the essentials of what salvation is. I think you've also mistaken that by quoting 1 Peter 1:14-17 without realizing the true meaning of these verses. You are partially right. God is stating that in Him there is NO SIN. Hence the 'because it is written' part comes about. This then, my friend, is a quote from the old testament where Moses is condemning sons of Aaron, and then God spoke to Aaron and Moses about a whole list of instructions on unclean animals and why they must follow this ( The BE YE HOLY PART) to sanctify themselves. My friend you can read this all in Leviticus 10 to Leviticus 11. This is when God ask them to be holy for God is HOLY. However, this is BY THE LAW. By the LAW we have to do a lot of things to STAY HOLY. But by the grace of God and Jesus' blood, we DO NOT NEED to be judged by the law. This is written in Acts 10:15, "And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common."

So my friend, once more you have missed a very important point in 1 Peter 1:14-17.
God is stating His Holiness.

And as usual, Hebrews 12.
Read Hebrews 12 and it is about the running the race of life with patience, enduring the chastening of God. And in fact, right after Hebrews 12:15, the example is about Esau being impatient losing his birthright. the Bible even explained on fail of the grace of God in events people like yourself might misinterpret it, which whereby there will be roots of bitterness springing up for trouble.
Read on Hebrews 12 and you will find Hebrews 12:24, where Jesus is already our mediator of the new covenant.

I'm actually replying chronologically based on your reply.

And when you mentioned why i'm putting up verses after verses.
I'm not throwing verses at you. On the contrary, i'm showing you what the Bible says. Unless your Bible says it differently. Exactly my point right.
Solomon did not went to hell.
Salvation is once. not multiple times. (Hebrews 10:10, 12)
Once, forever.

Read on Ephesians 4. What happens when a sinful person accepts Jesus Christ and receive the Holy Spirit?
Hebrews 10: 17, 18, 26
No more offering FOR SIN, but of course punishment is inevitable. I believe if you read on the chatisement, you would understand and co-relate to this portion.

No offence but I do not have time yet to touch on your book.
I will in time. But at least to one point I agree.
Do not rely on shop lot church / megachurch etc.

Neither do I rely on pastors for their advice. Haven't I been feeding you meat all this while?

1 John 5:2,3
"By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous"

The verse above explains, if a person is saved, if a person loves God, he will keep God's commandments; and will subsequently bear fruits.
If a person is NOT SAVED, naturally, the sinful nature will be dominant and hence will continue sinning.

This is a very similar verse with what James had to say with faith with works which most Catholics will misinterpret it as to salvation that require works.

James 2:17
"Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."

Read on to 1 John 5:11
"And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son"

Eternal...
How again do you have ETERNAL LIFE?

1 John 5:10
" He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son "

ETERNAL LIFE is by BELIEVING on the Son of God; once again, salvation is by grace that God gives to us.. BY BELIEVING.

The Bible was very straightforward in 1 John 5:13, "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."

Did God say, eternal or did God say temporary? Did God say for as long as you believe, that is as long as your salvation will be?

Eternal is forever.

Then I know certain confused people will ask, this is the license to sin?
1 John 5:18 clearly explains it.
" We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not."

A continuous sinful life only reflects one thing.. that the person may not be born of God to begin with.

Read on..

1 John 5:16
"If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it."

John here is addressing to the brethen, to saved Christians.
it doesn't mean Christians have the license to sin. I've explained as above, God will chastise who He loves. And those that love God, will try to obey God's commandments.

BUT CLEARLY IT IS WRITTEN..

...HIS BROTHER SIN A SIN....

Christians are not perfect, and will still sin, but this sin WILL NOT affect your salvation. Pray for forgiveness because God will punish our sin one way or the other. But also be thankful God protects our salvation. But does it mean LETS SIN FOREVER AND GO ON A SIN SPREE?
Christians CAN SIN UNTO DEATH...

I saw this book in MPH. Couldn't resist to share with faithful believers of Prosperity Burger. Seems like these believers belives "I'm".

Some people question, due to Sin, will you LOSE YOUR SALVATION..
WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY????

1) What does it mean to be saved?
Romans 8
Once you are saved, the Holy Spirit renews our body. Our body is dead because of sin (initially) but is now alive due to the Holy Spirit (after you are saved.)
The Holy Spirit in us helps us in prayers.
helps us in doing God's will.
Romans 8:13, Romans 8:14
" For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live."

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God"

So what is the criteria to be the sons of God? YOU MUST BE LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD IN YOU.. DID GOD SAY, FOR AS LONG AS YOU ARE LED?

GOD SAID, FOR AS MANY....

so of cos naturally it leads to question no.2

The Holy Spirit LEAVES the person if a he continuously sin. WRONG

2) The Holy Spirit NEVER leaves the person.
John 14:16
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;"

Ephesians 1:13
" In who ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory"

VERY DIRECT VERSES OF GOD'S ASSURANCE TO OUR HOLY SPIRIT.

unless someone preaches another kind of type of spirit..

3) Your salvation is permanent; WHY MUST YOU KNOW AND BE CONFIDENT?

Romans 8:16,17
"The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together."

Clearly YOU MUST KNOW.. your salvation is permanent.

And why MUST YOU KNOW?

Hebrews 4:16
" Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."

We must know that we have God to help in times of trouble, in times when Satan puts Christians through difficulties of life.


YOUR SALVATION IS DEFINITE, that is IF YOUR SALVATION IS TRUE.. The biggest question shouldnt be IF YOUR SALVATION IS PERMANENT?

The right question should be..

WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN AS YOUR SALVATION? Is christianity a RELIGION to you?

P/s: stop reading un-biblical books or articles which have no biblical foundations.. some false prophets in the world just want to make money than giving glory to God.

This post has been edited by zanness: Feb 20 2018, 03:50 PM

in bible perspective, 'I am' is actually declaration of divinity as what Jesus had declared John 8:56–59

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Hi zanness,

Yes, OSAS proponents are also worried that we will not have assurance of faith, if there is no eternal security. That is a very legitimate concern

In fact, this book has a section dedicated to Assurance of Salvation. Read chapter 15. (attch)

About the verses you’ve quoted, I’d already pain-stakingly gone through them with lengthy explanations to UW in the past 9 pages. Hebrews, Romans, etc.

I must apologize because I’m not a very articulate man & my mastery of the English language is also rather poor.

The worst part though, is that I lack critical thinking skills, which makes me a poor debater by default.

Mayhaps, the following vids might help you glean some rather useful info, that could help you to consider seeing things from my angle?




Preacher from U.S.




Preacher from South Africa. I was actually listening to his other sermons across a variety of topics, but somehow a few clicks brought me here




Another preacher from the U.S. Most definitely a cowboy judging by his mid-west tone. The video looks dated as well. Maybe from the 90's.

LMAO 15000+ comments for his vid . Definitely a divisive doctrine.


These two are laymen :





Wokehh, TQ & God Bless!


 Daniel_Corner_The_Believers_conditional_Security.pdf ( 4.13mb ) Number of downloads: 3

I know what is the meaning but would be good if u can read the book.

Hi penguin, yes i'm aware of the dispensation differences. Abraham didn't have any LAW because it didn't exist yet. And they couldn't say they look forward to the Cross. Unlike us, where we can say we can look backwards.

Also yes, once the age of grace is over, the mosaic law will partially come back during the millennial kingdom because by then, people will be walking by sight. No longer by faith, since they can see Jesus ruling from Jerusalem.

Anyway, we'l just have to agree to disagree Dr Ninja

My friend, the videos you show are the same things which you say.
From your angle, I can understand this.. You are confused. You yourself know it.. You've said that you need to read the whole context to understand what the verse is implying.
For example, in the old testament times, you need to be 100% clean from head to toe before approaching God and entering the tabernacle, else be instantly killed by lightning by God.
We don't see this anymore.

If you read the old testament and study it, you will realize, that the entire old testament is a preparation for the coming messiah.

Example, Why did Moses lift the snake up on a cross ? Why was Moses instructed to ONLY knock the rock once? Why did Abraham sacrifice the lamb instead of his Son?

The verses the people use in the video only shows to me, they are taking Bible verses and matching it together as they want to suit their doctrine.. Is that the biblical way?

To be honest, I know none of these people.
But from the biblical backings they use, they totally ignored verses about salvation (not to mention they are not using KJV or Hebrew bible to begin with)



Take for example
Luke 8:13
13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

My friend, don't you see the whole picture?
This is the parable of the seed. The speaker of the video bluntly take this.. and ignored verses 14, 15. The parable of the seed is talking to how the gospel affects people. verses 13, fall away is backslide christians. As I've also mentioned, there is a sin, a sin unto death. This is what it means by fall away. It does not mean hell. This verse in fact is a supporting verse to why Jesus instructed discipleship, the main reason why christians have to be rooted in the word, to ward temptation (Romans and 1 Corinthians has plenty to talk about this)
Whereas, verses 14 is about those which do mean hell because the seed has not been inside the heart at all to begin with.


Another verse he did not understand again, Revelation 3:11, this is about pre-destined crowns in a pre-destined context.

Faith alone is not in the Bible.
James 2 :14 ,"What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?"
James 2:17 ," Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."

the book of James is a hard to digest book due to the fact that the author himself is of high intellectual.
Basically, what James is telling is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to ONLY have faith but DO NOT have works.

Why is it impossible?
because naturally, with faith, your works will come.. This is what it means.. as explained further by James in the subsequent verses and concluded in James 2:20, "20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"





I do not think viewing random videos by random speakers is wise.
For example, your speakers uses another bible verse for John 16:1 ,"All this I have told you so that you will not go astray"

WOW if i didnt know the Bible well enough I'll be confused!

Because what John 16:1 in KJV is ,"These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended."

ASTRAY VS OFFENDED!

VERY BIG DIFFERENCE MY FRIEND.

Instead of helping your Christian growth, it confuses even more.

Like you've said also, always read the Bible and the Bible tells you everything. From what I hear and what I see, these preachers are mixing personal opinions with selected Bible verses making it VERY confusing to those who are weak in Bible knowledge.

How else do you think I have answers to every verse these people claim that salvation can be lost if not through reading of the Bible.

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These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be caused to stumble.
John 16:1 ASV
https://bible.com/bible/12/jhn.16.1.ASV

problem with KJV is the archaic English. some word has change meaning since 16 century

all major translation, including other language like chinese the meaning is either falling away or stumble

well

I guess that is why some.people like KJV because the language is archaic so they can manipulate what it means

Exactly. This is why even when reading the Bible, the right Bible should be used. And it should be reference back to the hebrew Language.

John 16:1 has such a BIG DIFFERENCE in its meaning if being manipulated.
To be honest, this is the first time i've read John 16:1 differently where the word used is ASTRAY lols..

Archaic English, though is complicated, but is able to keep the biblical value.
I rather read the Bible full of its value, than confuse myself with modern translated versions.

new testament is written not in Hebrew lol

it is koine Greek lmao

I find it really amusing that forumers here have been saying right language should be used and quoting biblehub.com and etc for translation and all of sudden is expert in Hebrew or Greek. Do u really think this is the way to understand a language and a text just by using online translating tools?

What is living according to God's Spirit? Part 3 of Grace & Truth

Romans 8:1-3 (NIV) - 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

There's an argument on the set condition for no condemnation depending on whether you walk according to the Holy Spirit. Many translation does not include that phrase in verse 1 (Except KJV) but have included it in verse 4 as more appropriate. For me, it does not matter because either way because at the end of it, it seem to imply there is a condition attached and some people will say you need to be obedient to God as what it implies. On the surface it may sound like it but what is living according to the Spirit?

If you say it's about complying to God's set of Law then I will tell you it is insufficient. The Law can tell you not to commit adultery but it doesn't tell you how to love your spouse, some people can self claim they don't commit adultery but they hardly treat their spouse right. Some don't because they don't have the money, some because nobody looks their way twice. Whatever it is, the Law can cause people to be hard on other people. The Law only tells you not to "Thou Shall not"...but doesn't tell you beyond that, what to do. Interesting isn't it?

Do you know....sometime there's a knowing on the inside telling you to be kind to your wife or husband...that is the Holy Spirit. Sometime there's an inclination telling to just shut up (in a nice way ) and be a listener instead of a preacher to your life partner. The Law tells you not to covet, but it doesn't teach you how to be a generous giver. THAT takes the Holy Spirit and even for that, many are not willing to give their money up. They hold a tight clench...very hard to pry the fingers off. Under Grace, people who give the most, received the most from God. The Law may cause some people to be self righteous and thus end up condemning others without even realizing it.

The Law is written on 2 sets of cold stones but the Spirit is a living being, warm on the inside that lives and gives Life!

Some people are afraid without the law, people will go crazy. No, Friends, God has given you the Holy Spirit and has written everything you need to know through the Holy Spirit. Many of you already experience this and you know it's the HS.

What is living according to the Spirit?

As you already know, just adhering to a set of rules will cause a kind of hardness of the heart, so the answer is no. Why? Because it can be a form of empty religion and the Law is insufficient. The law was never given to help you to live right but to bring you to the end of yourselves.

The answer is this; Walking in the spirit means walking in the revelation that God is with you through his HS in your life and for God to be with you, you need to know God loves you. Also..for God to be with you, you need to know all your sins have been purged away as far as from the east is to the west. This is the first hurdle that our mind need to be convinced of (to repent)...everyday.

Until you come to this sense, Only God's love and his Son's perfect work for you is perfect, you will never walk according to God's Spirit. Because if you're going to trust and "also" be dependant on your obedience, your Christian life will be topsy turvy dependent on your performance and you give the devil opportunity to accuse you.

If you want consistency, then you need to hold fast to Grace where all of self and everything that is related to self... is dismantled and the devil has no say. Until you receive that you will have much difficulty loving others. Loving others comes by the Fruit of Joy and peace. How can you love others in bitterness and in hatred? Think about it.

Having this revelation, believing wholeheartedly, and acting out in Faith by your actions (for this love revelation) will be the first step to live by God's spirit. It all has to do with how you receive God in your life and how you treat other people. Read Romans 8 and Galatians 5.

God Bless.

Hi bro zanness,

The effect of the OSAS doctrine is that many continue in sin, which is why I refer to it as the "continuing in sin" doctrine.

I realize the OSAS adherents don’t recommend sin, they just say sin doesn’t impact our salvation, which is not supported by scripture.

Of course to be fair, OSAS proponents don’t believe that we should take it as a license to sin, BUT just by taking the position of “Once Saved Always Saved”, you’re by default, taking a stance for everything that OSAS stands for, which includes continuing in sin after salvation. Do you get my point?

If you say we can’t lose our salvation, then why is the Bible replete with warnings like:


“And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.” - Ephesians 4:30



OSAS proponents like to use this verse in their favour, to say that we can’t lose our salvation, because we are “sealed” & therefore it is irrevocable.

What they ignore is the initial part of this verse. Why bother to not grieve the Holy Spirit since no matter how much we grieve Him, we can’t lose our salvation? Doesn’t make sense right?

There must be a stern warning here. So what happens if you ignore this warning and grieve the HS?


"But they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit; therefore he turned to be their enemy, and himself fought against them." - Isaiah 63:10


Wow! God will actually consider you his enemy! Unless of course you say the above verse doesn’t apply to NT believers.


Also, the OSAS proponents only quote the above verse Ephesians 4:30, as if there are no conditions attached, but never the continuation of that passage which says a lot of things :


31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
5 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

- Ephesians 4:31-5:17

See? Listed sooo many conditions that require obedience. It’s a conditional security.

Now if you’re to ask me, so at which point will I become unsaved/lose my salvation?

I can honestly tell you, only God knows. Like I said to you before on another post, you need to study the doctrine of sin (Hamartiology).

Many in our hour teach and sincerely believe that the most one could ever lose through sin after initial salvation, is their joy of salvation, fellowship with the Father, spiritual rewards, position in the kingdom, etc.

But is it true?

Jesus, however, taught otherwise! The Lord taught the Prodigal’s alive spiritual condition degenerated to dead, the same as for everyone before initial salvation.

I explained in one of my post to UW about the prodigal son. Go look it up. It can’t mean physically dead because he wasn’t. That means the verse referred to spiritual death!


How about another warning from the Bible:


"But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own lust and enticed. Then, when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth DEATH. Do not be deceived, my beloved BROTHERS."

- James 1:14-16

What does it mean by death? Spiritual death! Why? Because all of mankind whether unbeliever or believer, will die a physical death. So it refers to spiritual death.

This verse is definitely meant for believers because it says brothers.




Too many of you (especially our resident preacher) confuse the inadequate English translation of "works" (normal, healthy good deeds, which are a manifestation of having authentic Grace / faith) with "works of the law" (blood sacrifices in the OT, not a manifestation of Grace).

"But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, ADD TO YOUR FAITH virtue, to virtue knowledge, to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For he who lacks these things is short-sighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins. Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to CONFIRM YOUR CALL AND ELECTION, for if you do these things you will never fall; for so an ENTRANCE WILL BE ABUNDANTLY PROVIDED FOR YOU into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." – 2nd Peter ?:??

See? We are to add to our faith!

Just because I believe you can lose your salvation does not mean I believe in salvation by Law.

The Scripture clearly teaches that salvation is by works "A man is justified by works and not by faith alone" - James 2:24

We are not saved by works of the Law, but we are certainly saved by works.

That is why the Lord Jesus over and over gave people instructions such as "Repent" and "Be Baptized" and "Keep my commands".

Why would the Lord Jesus say these things if they were not necessary?

"Eternal security" is a heresy propagated by Calvin and the Reformers (who denied many books of the Bible!)

What such men do is to pull a few phrases out of Romans or Galatians which rightly teach against Law-keeping .

But they take these phrases out of the Bible, preaching them in isolation from the rest of Scripture, and create a Gospel of "salvation by intellectual faith".

They conclude that since we're not saved by the Law then we're not saved by any kind of works at all!

But the Bible categorically refutes such heresy in the most plain terms. The only verse of the Bible where the words "faith alone" appear is James 2:24.

Even then, James 2:24 agrees with non-OSAS

"You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone." - James 2:24

See?

If you still accuse me of being a legalist or works salvation, you’re completely missing the mark. Legalists & works salvation people don't even believe in Jesus in the 1st place.

Wokehh, Thank You & God Bless

Rest In Peace to the world most influential preacher Reverend Billy Graham passed away at the age of 99 years old at his home few hours ago.
I know many of you may not agree with his views but nevertheless he is a great evangelist ever lived which touched the heart of so many world leaders including Queen Elizabeth II and many US Presidents over the decade from both side of politics

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43142263

99 years old. Such a long life. Rest in peace

Not really, He didn't refute anything imo.

For example, he changed the meaning the power of sin is the law to affiliating to "Pain"......nothing in the scripture of that verse talks about pain, he interpreted on his own understanding.

The Law gives Sin it's power, that is the correct context. I can go on and on, but would you really understand? .

As for what you've said in your latest post in James 1:14-16, not everything is for the believer, you need to correctly divide God's word. Read from the very beginning of James 1.

For example;

in verse 9, it talks about Believers in humble circumstances ought to take pride in their high position, implying those who are in simple circumstances compared to the rich (verse 10). If everything is for the believer, then are you telling me, Rich believers are in for destruction? To say that it is, then you will have to conclude people like Job would also be geared for destruction at the end of his life.

Verse 13-14 is basically describing how sin destroy the person. But a believer has God in his life and that makes the difference why He/She can be excluded. Born again believers with the right revelation of God's word cannot go on sinning.

It all boils down to what you teach.

From what I see so far, you certainly lack Faith in Christ Jesus. you have more Faith in yourself over a Saviour.