I think we all can accept, the message in the book of Hebrews were written specifically to the Jews, that was the point of arresting the meaning of sinning willfully.

As to how it can apply to all believers, for me it applies when one tries to mix up both law and grace as one.

I think we all can accept, the message in the book of Hebrews were written specifically to the Jews, that was the point of arresting the meaning of sinning willfully.

As to how it can apply to all believers, for me it applies when one tries to mix up both law and grace as one.

The blasphemy part is a bit overused. The blasphemy of the Spirit differs from insulting the Spirit (Heb. 10:29). To insult the Spirit is to disobey Him willfully. Many believers do this. If they confess this sin, they will be forgiven and cleansed by the Lord’s blood (1 John 1:7, 9). But to blaspheme the Spirit is to slander Him, as the Pharisees did in verse 24. It was by the Spirit that the Lord cast out a demon. But the Pharisees, seeing it, said that the Lord cast out demons by Beelzebub, ruler of the demons. This was blasphemy against the Spirit. By such blasphemy, the Pharisees’ rejection of the heavenly King reached its climax. You have to be physically there in front of the Lord Himself to commit it.

For argument sake, let's make it, a principle. Then, I can also say it applies to all believers in NT epistles and revelation; not just Hebrews only. 

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Oh, sure, you can go with Calvin and westminster Faith. I have no problem with it.

Cant go too deep with you, Im no bible scholar

Just want to add here, the jews are the only people who have seen Jesus' and his miracles, yet rejected him. This is also isaiah's prophecy. If anyone can blaspheme the Spirit, the jews can.

Anyway are you Armenian? I can't say Ive met any armenians before

Ya think? 

I believed it is Paul that confirmed our salvation in 2 Corinthians, 1:21-22 (NIV). Didn't the Bible said that we are saved by faith alone, not by works?

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We are the true Jews (Rom. 2:29).
spiritually.

I guess Methodist and salvation army are both Armenian
plenty of them in Malaysia

by you logic

because Jesus preach gospel to Jews only so we can conclude gospel is only for Jews?
that is your logic

Nope. There was no "alone" there.

i think she quoted the wrong verse

Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
8 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.…

true the word alone is not there but the word 'This is not from yourselves" is there, implying our performance have no part in this.

Cant go too deep with you, Im no bible scholar

Just want to add here, the jews are the only people who have seen Jesus' and his miracles, yet rejected him. This is also isaiah's prophecy. If anyone can blaspheme the Spirit, the jews can.

Anyway are you Armenian? I can't say Ive met any armenians before

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No I am not Armenian. Though I knew an Armenian fellow in the past.

I think you meant if I am subscribed to arminianism? No either. I believe that salvation is eternally secure and by faith as revealed in the Bible according to His eternal nature. Too many verses on that.

But to be fair, one must consider the verses raised up by them.

I hope the next question is not how I can reconcile Hebrews with perseverance of the saints

Just about to ask you that

Macarthur once said, all good arminians are calvinists

Lol. If you permit me to be frank, brother, this is not the first time that I have share it. Try to in my limited way.

When you mention that you rather adhere to the confession, I feel very heavy and reluctant to . (Or I am just a lazy bum)

Unless you really open to engage the texts regardless where it will bring you. To reconcile eternal salvation and the warnings in Hebrews; and other parts of the NT.

If you are not; then no use going on. Just treat me as a voice poking people to always consider the text and not always bound by a theological framework. It helps us and also veil us.  It always includes and excludes. The exclusion could be very critical.

Sometimes I wonder if better if I create a Skype account to share if it might be easier.

Take care lah.

that is true

one can't simply think part of bible is not applicable for them
some even think ten commandments is no longer a benchmark of how Christian should behave. well you know those grace only folks

Wah ... the laws is a prickly subject not one that I want to get into.

You have lovely verses like these:

Romans 10:4 says, "Christ is the end of the law unto righteousness to every one who believes."

On the other hand, in Matthew 5:17 the Lord Jesus said, "Do not think that I came to abolish the law or the prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill."