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 V1. Swiftlet Keeping-EVERYTHING About The Industry, Techniques, Tips, Tricks, Complaints etc

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athlic
post May 9 2008, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 7 2008, 03:48 PM)
Pay to learn, simple as that.


Added on May 7, 2008, 4:21 pm
I sometimes may sound hard, but I am telling the thruth. Nothing is free. Those who knew the rules of the game had started once like u. They paid thru their nose ,travelling rain or shine thousands of km ,  begging for info ,uncounted cash used, time ,effords, unsleepless night and thousands more untold sad stories to have acquired the rules.

correct me if I am wrong, just one dude from the net who wants to start a farm and expect to have all these in their finger tips thru just one POSTING in Lowyat?

What u guys say? Is it fair?

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it's like trying to ask Coke what is their secret recipe. rclxub.gif


Added on May 9, 2008, 11:11 am
QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 9 2008, 10:32 AM)
if u r Mong Char how could you lear better keep the money to open Kopi shop lah. forget about making many from farming ,That is my advise!

There are no Champion here, the only differences are looser and winner.
Winner make money from farm .Looser lost money but they think they could make it anyway that is go determination and inspiration..Keep it up! One day the time will come don't know when only 5-10- perhaps 15yrs. We were once like you. Don't give up.
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perhaps there's another category? what about those who broke even?

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post May 9 2008, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(athlic @ May 9 2008, 11:03 AM)
it's like trying to ask Coke what is their secret recipe.  rclxub.gif


Added on May 9, 2008, 11:11 am
perhaps there's another category? what about those who broke even?
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The broke even one are those still could afford to buy Coke to drink loh!
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post May 9 2008, 11:44 PM

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coolandy,I agreed with you.Many sifus or maybe half tank sifus will try to pretend to give advice for free to get attention.When one take the bait,one will have to pay through their nose and and probably end up getting very little.Either setting up a BH or buying accessories according to their advices and they will make it like they are trying to help you getting the products but at the same time doing high mark ups thinking that one will have to pay for it cos more advices needed.Check and compare prices before buying and not all items are useful.Always remember even the best sifu will not reveal all.The best will be kept for themself.That is human nature.Do your homework to learn,watch those birds flying patterns ,understand their needs ,there is no shortcut to success.Cheers
swifbuild
post May 10 2008, 10:04 AM

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I guess the best is to get a well-know consultant to help you and advise you. Like what they always say consult yr doctor 1st b4 u start any medication.

So surf the net and get the most well known and famous one ,you won't be wrong right? at least they have their Names.

Just pay them and sit back and relax and just wait.The time come just harvest .They are more than willing to take care for u from a-z . No hassle no trouble just enjoy yr free time on other thing.

Don't waste time DIY If you don't know .If you want to drink milk u don't have to buy a cow, go to supermarket and buy a packet.

If u don't know about DIY farm just pay consultant to do it ,my advise is to get a well known one the more famous the better.

That is my sincere advise.
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post May 11 2008, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 10 2008, 10:04 AM)
If you want to drink milk u don't have to buy a cow, go to supermarket and buy a packet.
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That is good advice.

Knowledge is power but to gain the knowledge, you have to work hard to get it. Don't assume too much.

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post May 13 2008, 04:31 AM

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hi guys...im a new farmer here...as what ive read through until page 32(took me 2 days to read it,tho i wanted to continue till page 50),things got heated up and im fed up of it and quickly came to the last page to post. Its been an interesting reads from the page 1 till 28 or so...but not till the 'war pages' u know what i mean...

and all i wanted to say here to the ppl from page 30 to 32 (which ive read with hated)

Fighting over the internet is like competing in the special Olympics, even if you win you are still a retard.

is our discussion on the farming still on? or is there some secret undergound you ppl discussing at?

neway, i think i PM'd seeseng b4 regarding my house farm.i promised him photos of the house which i didnt do yet.sorry coz ive been busy lately to settle other issues. anyway the farm is a standalone one.wooden type.i DIY all of it with my father. Took some internal pics but its not here with me now...i have a lot to improve onto the house.mainly the temperature and the entrance opening.

btw, pasar road there selling AMP cums with USB port.so u guys no need to buy player and AMP.this is 2 in 1.costed me ard MYR180.


Added on May 13, 2008, 4:47 pmseems to be quiet here indeed...kent kt,alo alo...con fights over already?

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post May 13 2008, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Anonymous2 @ May 13 2008, 04:31 AM)
hi guys...im a new farmer here...as what ive read through until page 32(took me 2 days to read it,tho i wanted to continue till page 50),things got heated up and im fed up of it and quickly came to the last page to post. Its been an interesting reads from the page 1 till 28 or so...but not till the 'war pages' u know what i mean...

and all i wanted to say here to the ppl from page 30 to 32 (which ive read with hated)

Fighting over the internet is like competing in the special Olympics, even if you win you are still a retard.

is our discussion on the farming still on? or is there some secret undergound you ppl discussing at?

neway, i think i PM'd seeseng b4 regarding my house farm.i promised him photos of the house which i didnt do yet.sorry coz ive been busy lately to settle other issues. anyway the farm is a standalone one.wooden type.i DIY all of it with my father. Took some internal pics but its not here with me now...i have a lot to improve onto the house.mainly the temperature and the entrance opening.

btw, pasar road there selling AMP cums with USB port.so u guys no need to buy player and AMP.this is 2 in 1.costed me ard MYR180.


Added on May 13, 2008, 4:47 pmseems to be quiet here indeed...kent kt,alo alo...con fights over already?
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Will be glad if you can provide the full address and contact no. for the shop selling the amm cum with usb port.
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post May 14 2008, 12:23 AM

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Son of b**** betul....those ppl started by asking a lot question to ppl and now removing his post and tell ppl everything is the money and dont be dude just pay money to con and wait for harvest...what is that mean....mean that fellar is kiasu ,liar ,cheap pei........he dunno what is the forum for....if dunno dun post here la....if not willing to share go away la.......f!!!!


Hi all, Im new here. Planning to start this things...has read all the post..
Now locating for place to start, most probably will be in selangor as my dad have a land here.

Any one interested to sell their bird calling CD ? 2nd hand Twiter ? Or wanna sell every equipment because given up? or wanna give me free? hehehe
By the way..any1 can tell me where to get these CD to bird test in Klang Valley ?

This post has been edited by jkm: May 14 2008, 12:40 AM
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post May 14 2008, 03:32 AM

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QUOTE(GOHCHUA @ May 14 2008, 12:07 AM)
Will be glad if you can provide the full address and contact no. for the shop selling the amm cum with usb port.
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its the newly built corner shops...that sells computer stuffs too...


Added on May 14, 2008, 3:34 am
QUOTE(jkm @ May 14 2008, 01:23 AM)
Son of b**** betul....those ppl started by asking a lot question to ppl and now removing his post and tell ppl everything is the money and dont be dude just pay money to con and wait for harvest...what is that mean....mean that fellar is kiasu ,liar ,cheap pei........he dunno what is the forum for....if dunno dun post here la....if not willing to share go away la.......f!!!!
Hi all, Im new here. Planning to start this things...has read all the post..
Now locating for place to start, most probably will be in selangor as my dad have a land here.

Any one interested to sell their bird calling CD ? 2nd hand Twiter ? Or wanna sell every equipment because given up? or wanna give me free? hehehe
By the way..any1 can tell me where to get these CD to bird test in Klang Valley ?
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who are u talking abt? CD? either you buy it from those consultants or go meet perhilitan people...sometimes they might even give u freebies and free consult.

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post May 14 2008, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(Anonymous2 @ May 13 2008, 05:31 AM)
hi guys...im a new farmer here...as what ive read through until page 32(took me 2 days to read it,tho i wanted to continue till page 50),things got heated up and im fed up of it and quickly came to the last page to post. Its been an interesting reads from the page 1 till 28 or so...but not till the 'war pages' u know what i mean...

and all i wanted to say here to the ppl from page 30 to 32 (which ive read with hated)

Fighting over the internet is like competing in the special Olympics, even if you win you are still a retard.

is our discussion on the farming still on? or is there some secret undergound you ppl discussing at?

neway, i think i PM'd seeseng b4 regarding my house farm.i promised him photos of the house which i didnt do yet.sorry coz ive been busy lately to settle other issues. anyway the farm is a standalone one.wooden type.i DIY all of it with my father. Took some internal pics but its not here with me now...i have a lot to improve onto the house.mainly the temperature and the entrance opening.

btw, pasar road there selling AMP cums with USB port.so u guys no need to buy player and AMP.this is 2 in 1.costed me ard MYR180.


Added on May 13, 2008, 4:47 pmseems to be quiet here indeed...kent kt,alo alo...con fights over already?
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Added on May 14, 2008, 6:29 am
QUOTE(Anonymous2 @ May 13 2008, 05:31 AM)
hi guys...im a new farmer here...as what ive read through until page 32(took me 2 days to read it,tho i wanted to continue till page 50),things got heated up and im fed up of it and quickly came to the last page to post. Its been an interesting reads from the page 1 till 28 or so...but not till the 'war pages' u know what i mean...

and all i wanted to say here to the ppl from page 30 to 32 (which ive read with hated)

Fighting over the internet is like competing in the special Olympics, even if you win you are still a retard.

is our discussion on the farming still on? or is there some secret undergound you ppl discussing at?

neway, i think i PM'd seeseng b4 regarding my house farm.i promised him photos of the house which i didnt do yet.sorry coz ive been busy lately to settle other issues. anyway the farm is a standalone one.wooden type.i DIY all of it with my father. Took some internal pics but its not here with me now...i have a lot to improve onto the house.mainly the temperature and the entrance opening.

btw, pasar road there selling AMP cums with USB port.so u guys no need to buy player and AMP.this is 2 in 1.costed me ard MYR180.


Added on May 13, 2008, 4:47 pmseems to be quiet here indeed...kent kt,alo alo...con fights over already?
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Hi Anonymus 2,

Just curious what type of insulation r u using on yr standalone wooden farm?

Thanks

This post has been edited by BCO_SP: May 14 2008, 06:29 AM
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Wood farms? Oh I see.....good luck!

Unless you seal all the gap in between all woods otherwise c'ventilation u can forget of success. Heat n temp are the important factors of good farm.

Seal too many no ventilation no movement of air also die. Good luck!
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QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 14 2008, 12:31 PM)
Wood farms? Oh I see.....good luck!

Unless you seal all the gap in between all woods otherwise c'ventilation u can forget of success. Heat n temp are the important factors of good farm.

Seal too many no ventilation no movement of air also die. Good luck!
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thanks for the not so die hard comment....ive seen it alot...dont know why everyone has nothing good to say and hey the luck u gave me isnt needed. is that how u treat every new guy in here? not sharing,u can sit in 1 corner with your secrets.

Fighting over the internet is like competing in the special Olympics, even if you win you are still a retard.
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post May 14 2008, 08:23 PM

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thk you for the sincere reply, appreciated.
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post May 14 2008, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Anonymous2 @ May 14 2008, 03:32 AM)
its the newly built corner shops...that sells computer stuffs too...


Added on May 14, 2008, 3:34 am
who are u talking abt? CD? either you buy it from those consultants or go meet perhilitan people...sometimes they might even give u freebies and free consult.
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Hi Anonymous2,

Don't worry, Im not saying about you. Thos eat chili will tasting the spicy.
Regarding the cd....of course consultant would be an option, just wondering any1 here has such supply as well, u know....things from consultan is more expensive ma.

May i know what is perhilitan people ? Sorry...both bm and Eng very weak wink.gif
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post May 15 2008, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(jkm @ May 15 2008, 12:04 AM)
Hi Anonymous2,

Don't worry, Im not saying about you. Thos eat chili will tasting the spicy.
Regarding the cd....of course consultant would be an option, just wondering any1 here has such supply as well, u know....things from consultan is more expensive ma.

May i know what is perhilitan people ? Sorry...both bm and Eng very weak wink.gif
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Hi JKM,

Jabatan Perhilitan is the wildlife department of Malaysia....they control all the wild animal population,
once the building renovation approved by city council, we cud approach perhilitan to enquire further bout licencing procedure for swiftlets

My last visit to the Perhilitan Kedah, their feedback was our govt, is currently encouraging more entrepeneurs to venture into swiftlet farming...

Cheers

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post May 15 2008, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(BCO_SP @ May 15 2008, 02:10 AM)
Hi JKM,

Jabatan Perhilitan is the wildlife department of Malaysia....they control all the wild animal population,
once the building renovation approved by city council, we cud approach perhilitan to enquire further bout licencing procedure for swiftlets

My last visit to the Perhilitan Kedah, their feedback was our govt, is currently encouraging more entrepeneurs to venture into swiftlet farming...

Cheers
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Hi man!!

thumbup.gif Thanks for your replies smile.gif, if they encouraging then is really a gud news here!!
Perhilitan hah...let me check in Selangor....
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QUOTE(jkm @ May 15 2008, 12:04 AM)
Hi Anonymous2,
Regarding the cd....of course consultant would be an option, just wondering any1 here has such supply as well, u know....things from consultan is more expensive ma.
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check with the perhilitan ppl...they give free good consult....altho not as good as the PROS in here,but at least something to start with. ive checked the bird calling i have with the perhilitan guy.he said mine not so good and what he told that,govt do provide equipments and resources but u gotta write them letters and they will make decision on it.
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QUOTE(Anonymous2 @ May 15 2008, 05:06 PM)
check with the perhilitan ppl...they give free good consult....altho not as good as the PROS in here,but at least something to start with. ive checked the bird calling i have with the perhilitan guy.he said mine not so good and what he told that,govt do provide equipments and resources but u gotta write them letters and they will make decision on it.
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Wow, thanks guy, Anonymous2. I have checked the website, they at Jalan Cheras, I think i will call them tmrw.

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QUOTE(jkm @ May 16 2008, 12:02 AM)
Wow, thanks guy, Anonymous2. I have checked the website, they at Jalan Cheras, I think i will call them tmrw.
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look for a guy name Dr. Azman
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I use a chicken farm humidifier for my farm and realise the it wet the surrounding floor area. The water will then seep to the floor below and the nesting plank.
Is it normal that the humidifier will wet the surrounding area and if it does how do I overcome it. I have place the humidifier into a 4' X 4 water tank' but the mist still wet the floor. Any good suggestions?
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