Deep undestanding of Af Behaviour and the skill to design BH also not forgeting in-dept knowledge of internal factors "MicrO"

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Added on May 6, 2008, 7:50 pmThe fungus will deter Af from building nest not onlt that the af will run away too.

When you change yr plank mean u need to knock here and there this all chase the birds away.Understood?


This post has been edited by swifbuild: May 6 2008, 07:50 PM

Hi Swifbuild,

Thank you for the advise.
I have read most of the books in the market and understand the important of the Macro and Micro habitats of AF.
I surf the net for info as well.
Besides these what will you advise to do in order for newbie to gain more knowledge.

Many Thanks

There are thousands like you who attended seminars buy hundred of books n surt the net. If all do think that they can have a successful farm after doing the same like you then the failed rate won't be 90% right.

The problem are all think like you. It is not as easy as you think.
Sorry to say that.

Exactly, So what can I do in order to be successful in this line?

Pay to learn, simple as that.

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Added on May 7, 2008, 4:21 pmI sometimes may sound hard, but I am telling the thruth. Nothing is free. Those who knew the rules of the game had started once like u. They paid thru their nose ,travelling rain or shine thousands of km , begging for info ,uncounted cash used, time ,effords, unsleepless night and thousands more untold sad stories to have acquired the rules.

correct me if I am wrong, just one dude from the net who wants to start a farm and expect to have all these in their finger tips thru just one POSTING in Lowyat?

What u guys say? Is it fair?



This post has been edited by swifbuild: May 7 2008, 04:21 PM

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betullllll,,,,

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Added on May 7, 2008, 6:09 pm[COLOR=red][COLOR=red][SIZE=14]

betullllll,,,,

This post has been edited by kohloh: May 7 2008, 06:09 PM

Exactly, But pay who and how much will that be?

Pay us lah..ha..ha.ha..at least u get genuine information..ha..ha..
sorry we don't cari makan...sorry just joking

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Added on May 8, 2008, 1:30 pmTalk about money everybody keep quiet ah! Talk about free info everybody wants ah! U guys see the reality of human. Sad,,,,,,,.

I will reveal the rules if someone could give me a good reason that i can't resist. Which I don't think most could.

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Added on May 8, 2008, 2:32 pm[B]COLOR= RED ......Size=14 } all these = Time + efford+ intelligent+ R&D+ $+
Kena "tiuw" kau kau+ many years later}====== Money!

Anything to add? Mr.Red Nest?

There so many personal message me and ask me to share ,share cd sound, share house design, share etc. U think this is Cendoi at road side Rm 1.50 a bowl meh.That want can share lah. But if 1000 people share it will also cost me Rm 1500.

Right or not?



This post has been edited by swifbuild: May 8 2008, 02:32 PM

So many Champions and so many Mong Char Char in this business. Mong Char Char wants free, Champions want money and pretend to give free advice. After a while, a lot of money changed hands.

Champions run away, Mong Char Char scratch balls and start learning the hard way.



This post has been edited by coolandy: May 9 2008, 08:01 AM

if u r Mong Char how could you lear better keep the money to open Kopi shop lah. forget about making money from farming ,That is my advise!

There are no Champion here, the only differences are looser and winner.
Winners make money from farm .Looser lost money but they think they could make it anyway that is good determination and inspiration..Keep it up! One day the time will come don't know when only 5-10- perhaps 15yrs. We were once like you. Don't give up.

This post has been edited by swifbuild: May 9 2008, 09:53 PM

it's like trying to ask Coke what is their secret recipe.

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Added on May 9, 2008, 11:11 amperhaps there's another category? what about those who broke even?

This post has been edited by athlic: May 9 2008, 11:11 AM

The broke even one are those still could afford to buy Coke to drink loh!

coolandy,I agreed with you.Many sifus or maybe half tank sifus will try to pretend to give advice for free to get attention.When one take the bait,one will have to pay through their nose and and probably end up getting very little.Either setting up a BH or buying accessories according to their advices and they will make it like they are trying to help you getting the products but at the same time doing high mark ups thinking that one will have to pay for it cos more advices needed.Check and compare prices before buying and not all items are useful.Always remember even the best sifu will not reveal all.The best will be kept for themself.That is human nature.Do your homework to learn,watch those birds flying patterns ,understand their needs ,there is no shortcut to success.Cheers

I guess the best is to get a well-know consultant to help you and advise you. Like what they always say consult yr doctor 1st b4 u start any medication.

So surf the net and get the most well known and famous one ,you won't be wrong right? at least they have their Names.

Just pay them and sit back and relax and just wait.The time come just harvest .They are more than willing to take care for u from a-z . No hassle no trouble just enjoy yr free time on other thing.

Don't waste time DIY If you don't know .If you want to drink milk u don't have to buy a cow, go to supermarket and buy a packet.

If u don't know about DIY farm just pay consultant to do it ,my advise is to get a well known one the more famous the better.

That is my sincere advise.

That is good advice.

Knowledge is power but to gain the knowledge, you have to work hard to get it. Don't assume too much.

hi guys...im a new farmer here...as what ive read through until page 32(took me 2 days to read it,tho i wanted to continue till page 50),things got heated up and im fed up of it and quickly came to the last page to post. Its been an interesting reads from the page 1 till 28 or so...but not till the 'war pages' u know what i mean...

and all i wanted to say here to the ppl from page 30 to 32 (which ive read with hated)

Fighting over the internet is like competing in the special Olympics, even if you win you are still a retard.

is our discussion on the farming still on? or is there some secret undergound you ppl discussing at?

neway, i think i PM'd seeseng b4 regarding my house farm.i promised him photos of the house which i didnt do yet.sorry coz ive been busy lately to settle other issues. anyway the farm is a standalone one.wooden type.i DIY all of it with my father. Took some internal pics but its not here with me now...i have a lot to improve onto the house.mainly the temperature and the entrance opening.

btw, pasar road there selling AMP cums with USB port.so u guys no need to buy player and AMP.this is 2 in 1.costed me ard MYR180.

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Added on May 13, 2008, 4:47 pmseems to be quiet here indeed...kent kt,alo alo...con fights over already?

This post has been edited by Anonymous2: May 13 2008, 04:47 PM

Will be glad if you can provide the full address and contact no. for the shop selling the amm cum with usb port.

Son of b**** betul....those ppl started by asking a lot question to ppl and now removing his post and tell ppl everything is the money and dont be dude just pay money to con and wait for harvest...what is that mean....mean that fellar is kiasu ,liar ,cheap pei........he dunno what is the forum for....if dunno dun post here la....if not willing to share go away la.......f!!!!


Hi all, Im new here. Planning to start this things...has read all the post..
Now locating for place to start, most probably will be in selangor as my dad have a land here.

Any one interested to sell their bird calling CD ? 2nd hand Twiter ? Or wanna sell every equipment because given up? or wanna give me free? hehehe
By the way..any1 can tell me where to get these CD to bird test in Klang Valley ?

This post has been edited by jkm: May 14 2008, 12:40 AM

its the newly built corner shops...that sells computer stuffs too...

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Added on May 14, 2008, 3:34 amwho are u talking abt? CD? either you buy it from those consultants or go meet perhilitan people...sometimes they might even give u freebies and free consult.

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Added on May 14, 2008, 6:29 amHi Anonymus 2,

Just curious what type of insulation r u using on yr standalone wooden farm?

Thanks

This post has been edited by BCO_SP: May 14 2008, 06:29 AM