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Kia Optima GT 2017 at rm179k
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alphaz
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Jun 8 2017, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(SoFlush @ Jun 8 2017, 12:04 AM) You ni memang kurang bijak, or to be even more obvious, you memang bodoh. Still want to compare with KIA and those recon branded cars  otak memang kat lutut that's why so furiously defending your KIA, lowest of the lowest in reputation in Malaysia Sudahla sudahla you made a stupid mistake by buying a KIA, better luck & get more brainpower to research for your next car choice OK? Lol potty mouth and brain damaged... You are the one comparing Kia to recon cars.
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FlamingFox
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Jun 8 2017, 02:00 AM
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Even if this was priced at RM150k, I doubt sales will be great. People normally relate Kia & Hyundai with low resale value and expensive & unavailable spare parts in comparison to their Japanese counterparts.
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Boy96
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Jun 8 2017, 03:59 AM
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Jun 7 2017, 02:29 PM) D segmen is for uncle Where got uncle drive at 200kmh ? Or zig zag in karak hway to unleashed the 380nm ? The uncle's son will take the car and drive like that whenever the uncle is on a business trip, or during a family trip when the uncle is too tired to drive. Son will take over This post has been edited by Boy96: Jun 8 2017, 04:00 AM
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PedangGila
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Jun 8 2017, 07:50 AM
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Oh 2.0T eh? Most welcomed. Well definitely this car has most of my likings really except missing the handbrake. Price expensive? Doesn't care
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riezzien
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Jun 8 2017, 07:58 AM
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just a matter of time before they give 30k discount for this car
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SKYjack
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Jun 8 2017, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(riezzien @ Jun 8 2017, 07:58 AM) just a matter of time before they give 30k discount for this car Then it will begin to sell like hot cakes!
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dstl1128
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Jun 8 2017, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Jun 8 2017, 02:00 AM) Even if this was priced at RM150k, I doubt sales will be great. People normally relate Kia & Hyundai with low resale value and expensive & unavailable spare parts in comparison to their Japanese counterparts. Well, Camry 2.0 vs Optima GT 2.0 @ RM150k .... I think Optima GT is a good buy. With this price RM150k I will just ignore.com on Camry 2.0G/X and Altis 2.0V.
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sitescope
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Jun 8 2017, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jun 8 2017, 08:47 AM) Well, Camry 2.0 vs Optima GT 2.0 @ RM150k .... I think Optima GT is a good buy. With this price RM150k I will just ignore.com on Camry 2.0G/X and Altis 2.0V. if 150k for optima GT, i also ignore all D segmen which sell in msia...
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TSjayraptor
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Jun 10 2017, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Jun 7 2017, 09:24 AM) Agreed but knowing Malaysian, most of us will go with the Brand instead of better value. Just spoke to a friend last night on this. 90% of Malaysian will go for a continental brand if it's priced the same as d segment Japanese made. E.g. A200 vs Mazda 6 2.5 FL. 90% of Malaysians would definitely go for A200 because it's a Merc! Regardless that Mazda 6 is a more comfortable, better drive and spacious, Malaysians would always be brand conscious coz they'll get to say... "I'm driving a Benz!" Haha.. Brand is 1 thing while necessities and maintenance count too. Any car that is priced too close to BMW, Mercedes will need to have lots of oomph that could convince people to buy. Mazda 6 is best example of Japanese non-luxury marque that could sell despite people could get 6 months old preowned BMW 3 series at RM180k
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TSjayraptor
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Jun 10 2017, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(-Aktan- @ Jun 7 2017, 11:51 PM) Have to agree with master marketing king this time... Hard to find ppl to spend 179K for this car... For those comparing merc vs kia. Sorry, in sales, merc is the choice here, or BMW. Thank you. Yes, I can get entry level preowned BMW 3 series or Mercedes C-Class at similar pricing, only 6 months old driven by staff and most of the time only parked there. So they are still in good condition. New Optima won't survive like this unless they got 2.0L NA engine but will require good Strategist to lead and plan. If it's just any ex salesman or marketing cert guy, they can forget about selling.
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TSjayraptor
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Jun 10 2017, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Jun 8 2017, 02:00 AM) Even if this was priced at RM150k, I doubt sales will be great. People normally relate Kia & Hyundai with low resale value and expensive & unavailable spare parts in comparison to their Japanese counterparts. Yes, even rm150k, people won't buy. Mondeo 2.0T is best example, they throw high discount until similar price, while preowned units at even much lower price, the sales is just as bad. Looks like Japanese King Strategist is winning. Latest survey report, the response is just poor. Surveyors at few main outlets reported quiet. Compared to nearby showrooms of Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Honda has most visitors, Toyota and Mazda still got people. Korean showrooms just quiet despite 2 models just newly launched. Feel really bad for the sales people.
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TSjayraptor
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Jun 10 2017, 02:10 PM
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@Eternalgl0ry "So true. I sold my veloster turbo because drinks fuel like crazy ( same stuffs with the new elantra but less power tuned ) and The aftersales is even worse than proton. Unless koreans decide to even bother with malaysia unlike mazda"
Your post in new Elantra thread was removed, probably some kiasu reported as offensive . Perhaps you coulld post your Veloster 1.6T FC here. Japanese King Strategist evaluation test on rented or leased Elantra Sport in overseas, day 1 gets 6-7Km/L based on MY city traffic condition, similar to 2.4L engine FC.
Just ignore new Elantra thread since they aren't open to public facts talk on cars. That is only reserved for their own marketing talk only. Anything these marketing guys dislike, they'll report forcing admin to remove. No wonder people don't bother to post there anymore. Their showrooms also quiet, no people despite first weekend after launch. They can ask their members to flock to showroom after seeing my comment but they still can't deny the poor response due to failed marketing and planning, worst is they reject owners feedback, now padan muka.
New Elantra brought in only 2.0L and 1.6T, most likely to make way for Accent 1.4L and 1.6L B segment to challenge Japanese B segments. Cerato also quiet, still x laku despite price throwing...Will have preowned soon, already 6 months but people lost confidence already.
This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jun 10 2017, 02:14 PM
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TSjayraptor
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Jun 10 2017, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jun 7 2017, 09:16 AM) In Malaysia at least , I feel the Japanese premiums are much better value than any entry level continental , much better specs , more space, better reliability, economy Do you plan to test drive Optima GT, Elantra sport and Tucson 1.6T? If you have tried, care to post review here?
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rcracer
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Jun 10 2017, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 10 2017, 02:16 PM) Do you plan to test drive Optima GT, Elantra sport and Tucson 1.6T? If you have tried, care to post review here? I don't know maybe the optima at most
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sitescope
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Jun 10 2017, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 10 2017, 01:37 PM) Thank you. Yes, I can get entry level preowned BMW 3 series or Mercedes C-Class at similar pricing, only 6 months old driven by staff and most of the time only parked there. So they are still in good condition. New Optima won't survive like this unless they got 2.0L NA engine but will require good Strategist to lead and plan. If it's just any ex salesman or marketing cert guy, they can forget about selling. Me also can buy bmw n merc but when come to servis n parts i can't afford it... So bmw n merc are not everyone option
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TSjayraptor
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Jun 11 2017, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jun 10 2017, 08:49 PM) I don't know maybe the optima at most Only Optima? Why not try new Elantra? They have turbo version for test drive at few main branches and HQ.
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TSjayraptor
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Jun 11 2017, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Jun 10 2017, 08:55 PM) Me also can buy bmw n merc but when come to servis n parts i can't afford it... So bmw n merc are not everyone option If Optima GT sales volume low, how does that give cheap spare parts? The 2.0GDI engine and dual clutch gearbox are far less on the road. If spare parts imported in small numbers or only when there's order onpy, then the price of spare parts won't be cheap. Take Koup, Veloster 1.6T for example, rarely see 1, spare part shops won't stock in lots of parts, so is SC. Remember when forte launched, no spare parts for broken windscreen yet expensive and took a month to arrive. How is that practical? No difference than buying BMW, Mercedes that have plenty of spare parts and tech expertise
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sitescope
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Jun 11 2017, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 11 2017, 07:32 PM) If Optima GT sales volume low, how does that give cheap spare parts? The 2.0GDI engine and dual clutch gearbox are far less on the road. If spare parts imported in small numbers or only when there's order onpy, then the price of spare parts won't be cheap. Take Koup, Veloster 1.6T for example, rarely see 1, spare part shops won't stock in lots of parts, so is SC. Remember when forte launched, no spare parts for broken windscreen yet expensive and took a month to arrive. How is that practical? No difference than buying BMW, Mercedes that have plenty of spare parts and tech expertise Then people should buy bmw n merc coz plenty of spare part Why waste money buy new accord or camry or teana or mazda 6 when u can get rekon unreg merc n bmw with same price Plenty of spare part not meaning cheap for everyone to afford Spare part n wshop also know if u can afford to buy merc n bmw u also can afford to buy exp parts n exp servis Dun compare 20 yrs old merc n bmw la of coz cheap parts This post has been edited by sitescope: Jun 11 2017, 08:02 PM
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rcracer
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Jun 11 2017, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 11 2017, 07:24 PM) Only Optima? Why not try new Elantra? They have turbo version for test drive at few main branches and HQ. No interest in it
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gabriel.l
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Jun 11 2017, 09:18 PM
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KIA got no problem.. NAZA is the problem.
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