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 Kia Optima GT 2017 at rm179k

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rcracer
post Jun 6 2017, 10:39 PM

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Many many many continental going to get offended can't keep up
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post Jun 7 2017, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Jun 7 2017, 09:10 AM)
Most so called high class D segment are already priced at RM180-200k, e.g. mazda 6, mondeo, etc. There was a Japanese D segment car is priced at RM240k - Subaru Legacy which perhaps failed in Malaysia but it's a very nice car to drive and own.
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In Malaysia at least , I feel the Japanese premiums are much better value than any entry level continental , much better specs , more space, better reliability, economy
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post Jun 7 2017, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Jun 7 2017, 09:24 AM)
Agreed but knowing Malaysian, most of us will go with the Brand instead of better value. Just spoke to a friend last night on this. 90% of Malaysian will go for a continental brand if it's priced the same as d segment Japanese made. E.g. A200 vs Mazda 6 2.5 FL. 90% of Malaysians would definitely go for A200 because it's a Merc! Regardless that Mazda 6 is a more comfortable, better drive and spacious, Malaysians would always be brand conscious coz they'll get to say... "I'm driving a Benz!" Haha..
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Not really la , A200 and Mazda 6 is too big class difference , most would say instead of mazd 6 to 'top up' another 40-50k for the 320i that doesn't even have a reverse camera
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post Jun 10 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 10 2017, 02:16 PM)
Do you plan to test drive Optima GT, Elantra sport and Tucson 1.6T? If you have tried, care to post review here?
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I don't know maybe the optima at most
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post Jun 11 2017, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 11 2017, 07:24 PM)
Only Optima? Why not try new Elantra? They have turbo version for test drive at few main branches and HQ.
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No interest in it
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post Jun 12 2017, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 12 2017, 11:03 AM)
Kesian Elantra, no wonder no people visit showroom. Because you also said like this. What is your comment on Elantra future here? They didn't bring in 1.6L entry level this time. Looks like they are planning to bring in new Accent 1.4 and 1.6L. if they do, under current rules on pricing, 1.4L at rm75k while 1.6L at close to rm90k.

Behold their last hope, new Accent, Elantra as smaller brother. Difference on the grille that adopted new Sonata style, rear lights are Genesis style. Expect public to say 1.4L underpowered while 1.6L fuel thirsty when compared to Japanese rival 1.5L.
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Good car generally , just pricing is not what the market wants to pay and there's nothing much can be done about it

Secondly , there really hasn't been much interest in higher powered sedans , yes a few say it is nice but general market is still looking for good fuel consumption and reliability

And lastly is the brand image itself

Other countries where Hyundai has good sales generally they have a local RnD where they do country specific tuning of the car for that country only, like Australia , Europe , Russia . The rest get the standard car good or bad

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post Jun 14 2017, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 13 2017, 10:39 PM)
Not just pricing, it's the failed and wrong strategies that killed the Korean brand here. 2015 onwards they just kept slumping despite throwing very high discount in overall.

In America, ever since they went off course, they actually lost. Refer 2015~present sales statistics, in these countries they claimed best seller,  their sales are actually behind the few Japanese brand models C and D segments. Before this they park themselves side by side or chasing up near Camry, Accord and Civic, Altis,. Today they are trailing behind challenged by Ford. In China, they are losing to China quality brands. In Australia, Toyota and Mazda haven taken over most of the shares that was once held by Koreans.
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Crowded market , no differentiation factor ,

But is not lost yet , they did hire many ex German marque top people to join them , so future will see more improvements

This post has been edited by rcracer: Jun 14 2017, 08:11 AM

 

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