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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 15 2021, 07:44 PM) ![]() Edit to add : Link to the full article This post has been edited by stormer.lyn: Sep 15 2021, 07:51 PM |
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Sep 15 2021, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Sep 15 2021, 06:57 PM) I run my MIG welder plugged into a normal 13A socket I think the welding machine quality matters too. I bought 1 stick weld machine like RM100+. It tripped like hell when I weld continuously.Anyway, I weld maybe max 3 mm thickness maximum. The amps used at this level is relatively low. Power is the important consideration. If the 13A socket provides 3000 Watts (230V x 13A) then the welding set can also weld at 3000W, but the welding set is low voltage at about 20V only. So 3000W / 20V = 150A. Assuming the welding set is 80% efficient, 150A x 0.8 = 120A welding current. That is why you can run a welding set from a 13A socket, if the welding current that you need is low. This will not be possible if you are welding thick material, at maximum Amps. But welding thin material with a current of 80A.... sure, go ahead. MIG welding in M'sia uses straight CO2, not a mixed gas. I have 2 tanks, one from the hardware shop made of steel, and my own alloy one (lighter) for when I need to travel someplace to weld. The hardware shop tank is replaced like your cooking gas tank; you give the empty tank to the shop, and you pay and collect a new full one. This available gas, and the fact that you can't easily find stainless steel welding wire, is the reason I say you can't reasonably weld s/steel with a MIG process in M'sia. So, since you asked about MIG, that is the info I have for you. You are correct about TIG welding, in that it is a "nicer" process. The same power rules apply to your welding current, and using a 13A socket at home. There is no special requirement with keeping Argon tanks, just that they must be secured, like all tanks should be. Other than that, no special precautions needs to be taken. CAUTION! Argon is heavier than air, and does not support life! I find the TIG process more elegant, and would like to own a set one day. Unfortunately, I want to build an aluminium boat, so the RM 6k entry price is a barrier for me, for what is basically a hobby! TIG has it's own issues. Among them would be cost of materials, cost of consumables, learning curve, slow process, needing accurate parts (TIG doesn't like gaps between pieces) and material cleaning and preparation. But, it looks really good, and is the only real process for doing s/s and Al. Maybe one day... Yeah, TIG might be hard and might takes some cost to learn until you can do a product properly. But that's ok for me, life is about learning |
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Sep 15 2021, 08:41 PM) done order ...will the oil keep on lesser and lesser ? after some times need to topup the oil ? thanks ... |
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 15 2021, 10:26 PM) done order ... Ideally before and after use can put a few drops, for lube n rust prevention. I use it to keep my hand tools eg bahco spanners & knipex pliers lubed up to prevent rust.will the oil keep on lesser and lesser ? after some times need to topup the oil ? thanks ... |
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 15 2021, 06:59 PM) guys .. Dry lubricate. It looks almost like singer oil viscosity.chain saw received .. but wat oil to use for the chain ? seller only gave empty oil bottle .. thanks ... Motor or bicycle shop should have. Dont use wet lubricate, sawdust will stick to wet lubricate. Wet lubricate viscosity look like car's engine lubricate. Cooking oil will turn rancid after a while. WD40 is not a lubricate; it is a water dispenser (water remover). This post has been edited by chamelion: Sep 16 2021, 11:03 AM |
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Sep 15 2021, 10:30 PM) Ideally before and after use can put a few drops, for lube n rust prevention. I use it to keep my hand tools eg bahco spanners & knipex pliers lubed up to prevent rust. few drop on all the chain part?my hand saw mostly rusty already due to no supply oil tothe saw.. QUOTE(chamelion @ Sep 15 2021, 11:58 PM) Dry lubricate. It looks almost like singer oil viscosity. singer oil can use to keep inside the chain saw oil tank?Motor or bicycle shop should have. Dont use wet lubricate, sawdust will stick to wet lubricate. Wet lubricate viscosity look like car's lubricate. Cooking oil will turn rancid after a while. WD40 is not a lubricate; it is a water dispenser (water remover). to keep the chain oil bath ? |
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 16 2021, 09:31 AM) few drop on all the chain part? You can spray wd40 (if you have it around since it is very common) to manage the rust until you find the lubricate, but it means to stop rusting, not as lubricate. my hand saw mostly rusty already due to no supply oil tothe saw.. singer oil can use to keep inside the chain saw oil tank? to keep the chain oil bath ? Your chain joint and plate will wear faster without lubricate. You need to refer to the manual on the recommended viscocity. If it is not mentioned, maybe check another maker website (eg Hilt, amazon) to see what other brand is using. This post has been edited by chamelion: Sep 16 2021, 11:02 AM |
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 15 2021, 07:44 PM) Can use cooking oil. Can read anywhere. https://thesprucetools.com/what-can-i-use-f...ainsaw-bar-oil/ |
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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Sep 15 2021, 06:57 PM) I run my MIG welder plugged into a normal 13A socket When you said:Anyway, I weld maybe max 3 mm thickness maximum. The amps used at this level is relatively low. Power is the important consideration. If the 13A socket provides 3000 Watts (230V x 13A) then the welding set can also weld at 3000W, but the welding set is low voltage at about 20V only. So 3000W / 20V = 150A. Assuming the welding set is 80% efficient, 150A x 0.8 = 120A welding current. That is why you can run a welding set from a 13A socket, if the welding current that you need is low. This will not be possible if you are welding thick material, at maximum Amps. But welding thin material with a current of 80A.... sure, go ahead. MIG welding in M'sia uses straight CO2, not a mixed gas. I have 2 tanks, one from the hardware shop made of steel, and my own alloy one (lighter) for when I need to travel someplace to weld. The hardware shop tank is replaced like your cooking gas tank; you give the empty tank to the shop, and you pay and collect a new full one. This available gas, and the fact that you can't easily find stainless steel welding wire, is the reason I say you can't reasonably weld s/steel with a MIG process in M'sia. So, since you asked about MIG, that is the info I have for you. You are correct about TIG welding, in that it is a "nicer" process. The same power rules apply to your welding current, and using a 13A socket at home. There is no special requirement with keeping Argon tanks, just that they must be secured, like all tanks should be. Other than that, no special precautions needs to be taken. CAUTION! Argon is heavier than air, and does not support life! I find the TIG process more elegant, and would like to own a set one day. Unfortunately, I want to build an aluminium boat, so the RM 6k entry price is a barrier for me, for what is basically a hobby! TIG has it's own issues. Among them would be cost of materials, cost of consumables, learning curve, slow process, needing accurate parts (TIG doesn't like gaps between pieces) and material cleaning and preparation. But, it looks really good, and is the only real process for doing s/s and Al. Maybe one day... Assuming the welding set is 80% efficient, 150A x 0.8 = 120A welding current. I believe that you suppose to add 20% more from the 150A, not reducing it This post has been edited by Zot: Sep 17 2021, 08:09 AM |
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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 17 2021, 08:08 AM) When you said: Assuming the welding set wastes 20% of the power as heat during conversion (80% efficient), then welding at 120A + 30A wasted = 150A total @ 20V, or 3000W power at the 13A socket.Assuming the welding set is 80% efficient, 150A x 0.8 = 120A welding current. I believe that you suppose to add 20% more from the 150A, not reducing it Lower efficiency has never, ever increased work done possibility, just wasted energy. |
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 16 2021, 09:31 AM) few drop on all the chain part? Ya on the chain part..sprocket.my hand saw mostly rusty already due to no supply oil tothe saw.. singer oil can use to keep inside the chain saw oil tank? to keep the chain oil bath ? Its actually SAE 20 mineral oil la for the 3in1 bottle. Chain tank if ur chainsaw use SAE20 (motor oil spec) then can use that..the tank one see what the chainsaw require |
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not exactly power tool but related, what impact sockets u guys using? happy to move my question elsewhere if not appropriate.
i got a set of total impact socket but wondering if theres better alternative. not to the level of snap on la. but rather affordable and decent. |
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QUOTE(odin140 @ Sep 18 2021, 01:20 AM) not exactly power tool but related, what impact sockets u guys using? happy to move my question elsewhere if not appropriate. For me I don't use bigger than 21mm impact sockets much. But one thing for sure I prefer 6pt anytime..not a fan of 12pt.i got a set of total impact socket but wondering if theres better alternative. not to the level of snap on la. but rather affordable and decent. Deep socket 21mm for lug nuts, SATA taiwan fits well for me and are quite well made for the price.. Smaller ones I just use the bosch set of shallow impact sockets. I actually have assorted bits of chrome non impact ones from stanley/cross or crafts man (cant remember). This post has been edited by ceo684: Sep 18 2021, 01:46 AM |
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