but during that time... i already felt note 2 note 3 is very good already... in fact better than the iphones thousand miles in term of flexibility of usage and the pricing... and the battery is quite impressive for a smart phone for that time....

the root and custom roms are real! haha .those were the days. i never thought of rooting s8. 

till today android is still better than iphone

Based on my s8+

1. Phone have never hang yet
2. i can have AOD
3. Custom widget for fast access
4. curve edge loving it
5. flexibility can install custom apk
6. got earphone plug
7.  fully customizable settings or features

these are good for you, but might not for others. no point keep on comparing. 

but during that time... i already felt note 2 note 3 is very good already... in fact better than the iphones thousand miles in term of flexibility of usage and the pricing... and the battery is quite impressive for a smart phone for that time....

in a way the touch wiz back then reli still need improvement... the good thing of note series over the iphone during that time is the battery capacity and s-pen... haha... rooting a phone is a must during that time just like most iphone users jailbreak their iphones... haha... but then seems like alot of the android phones going back to as close as the basic android version already.... which is a good thing nowadays...

Those were the days when after installing custom rom, I would be swearing and sweating at the same time because the modem wont connect or the dialer wont work.     

Because u are an android fanboy.  But honestly speaking, the android ecosystem was really weak then. We had to root our phones, install custom roms and stuff. With android nowadays, I dont even bother. I have even forgot how to root my phone already.
Are they mad? For f@cks would I wanna trade my S8+ with an Iphone 7 + and with top up of Rm 2.5k somemore? 

i see. im using dual sim,so far so good,but i dont play game on my phone and no game installed. maybe give it another day or two to see how. 

Note 3 was good in the beginning. 6 months down the road I had all sorts of problems with it. Battery drain, software issues, Overheating, etc. It was a half-baked product then, but I certainly would not call any Android flagship a half-baked product now. The ecosystem is just a matter of individual preference.

That's really strange. It's like a 1% drop in standby in less than 5 minutes? Mine doesn't drop that much and it's a regular S8 and not even an S8+.

Ya. Imagine one of them ask for trade their 7plus with my s8plus. Then i need to topup 2.5k. What the....talk of over valued

Yes, non believers especially Iphone fanboys would never believe how far android has come since their note 2 note 3 times. 

TBH, after returning my Note 7, I went on to try the OPO 3 an OPO3T and I find that their Oxygen OS (which is quite close to vanilla android) is actually quite good in terms of fluidity and performance. Of course you dont find as many features as you do on TW but hey, it gets the job done and most importantly it is smooth as silk. That is why I still have my OPO 3T with me as a daily driver.

Ya, doze like didn't kick it. I'll use gsam battery to monitor app usage.

Ya, doze like didn't kick it. I'll use gsam battery to monitor app usage.

I have no games on my phone too that's why I'm a bit frustrated. Will give it a few more days.

I am waiting for oneplus 5.. then i will trade off my s8 for that...

I am waiting for oneplus 5.. then i will trade off my s8 for that...

Your listing drew my interest bro, I would have considered had I not gotten myself an S8 already
Still not sold?

I was waiting for the Tab S3 but after learning of the official RRP price yesterday I nearly puked. Ha ha...

If only Microsoft incorporated a 4G sim slot into a Surface Pro...