im still a noob maa .. everyone follow 'the golden rules' .. i follow 'the entangle rules'


YO brader . long time no see ... apa macam !

wah, suddenly all the sifu back here kacao...
how's all been doing? any picture for update?

my 15cm x 10cm x 21cm tank.... got potential become planted aquarium??... well, inside abit crowded with tetras...

15cm ? whoah .. thats small .. better wait Master_G to answer .. i dont hv any experience with nano tanks ..

btw.. here one nano tank example ..but abit bigger tho

hi the_catacombs,
welcome here.. yes u can make a nano tank. but nano is very challanging

and u may need to get some smaller fish.

do a simple low tech nano will be nice

try to use stone rather than wood. cos wood will raise Ph, then u will suffer from Ph swing.

yeap... i know nano is challanging... but i'll keep things slow and steady... i'll try get some java moss and throw it at the bottom.... i heard these plants are hardy plants... haha....

what i'll be supplying them is jz my 9w florescent table lamp, a small water filter with minimum water flow, co2 provided by my tetras, soil from small gravel....

thanks for the wood tip... i thought of using it at the bottom to replace my black plastic thing on the right... haha.... mayb now i'll search for alternative deco.... stones are nice but vr hard to come across suitable size and shape for my nano tank...

This post has been edited by the_catacombs: Oct 7 2008, 12:37 PM

the_catocombs, ask something, the hang on filter in the picture is it china brand one, model 301 ?

err... dunno.... bought second hand from housemate....

does it affects the growth of my plants??...

the stone make sure not limestone ya..

also check the temp of ur tank. more than 28oc some moss may melt also.

melting moss??..

need to invest in thermometer meh??... whats the normal water temp in room temp??... my 9w table lamp florescent light is about 8cm from water surface...

ur tank there got air-com? normal water temp is about 30oC. not good for plants. mostly melt.

temperature is VERY importand in planted tank

nano tank is a very nice tank to "play" with....
1st, less $$ to buy tech....
2nd, easy to trim/cut
then come something else...
1, water volume small, parameter easy to get not stable
2, hard to scape, due to limited space/size, need to source for suitable plant and fauna (size)

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Added on October 7, 2008, 3:40 pmaquarium thermometer won coz you a bomb la....
go ahead with that...

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Added on October 7, 2008, 3:43 pmfirst, BBA, do check on your water flow rate and also CO2 injection(if got).
how long lighting?
i go for 4 hours, then off 2 hours, then sambung back 5 hours.

what is ur substrate?
what are the brown pebbles ?

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Added on October 7, 2008, 3:44 pmwei, u shout me for wat??
no wonder this few days my ear gatal la....


This post has been edited by pinchboyz: Oct 7 2008, 03:44 PM

dude, u wanna learn how to cultivate green water, BGA, BBA and hair algae onot?

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Added on October 7, 2008, 3:47 pmby following the golden rulez, u can get a better view/scaping.
but heck, is ur own tank, ur own planted tank, as long as wat u like, its ok...

This post has been edited by pinchboyz: Oct 7 2008, 03:47 PM

water also got aircond??...
nope, my room is not air conditioned... normal ceiling fan only with windows opened 24/7...

room temp is 30oC la... but water temp also 30oC meh??....

why need to trim/cut??... afraid plants overgrown??....

i planning for 1 or 2 small moss only.... nothing big... haha.... still insearch for small fishes 1cm long... tetras are mostly 2cm above...

but... lets say i got a thermometer to monitor the water temp... how do i control the water temp??...

u think the leaves won grow old??
control??
water chiller??
fan also can use...

haha.... i know plants will grow old la... but havent think till so far... now wanna make my plants live and settle in also vr hard adi... haha...

cpu fan blowing on water surface can affect water temp??... i thought they were used jz to make water ripple....

Hi there.

Think of setup my 1st plant tank using my existing tank. Will either remove the wallpaper stick at the back or stick a new wallpaper inside the tank. Is the wood too big for this size of tank? Will it cause the PH raise higher using so big wood in this small tank (tank size probably 40cm X 30cm X 20cm).

Free to give me comment


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Pinchboyz,
does it improve the growth of ya plants by going for 4hrs then off 2hrs and continue again by 5hrs? wat is the philosophy behind this?

AHahhaa. got my degree in green water, BBA and Master for hair algae

Catacomb,
wat kind of substrate you use, garden soil?
yeah, nano is very challenging.. not just scaping, controlling the water parameter as well.. sekali change water.. you might send ya fishes straight to the grave..
i think Java Moss might still survive in 28c.. but definately will stun the growth..
hahhaa. your tank is so tiny, by adding the thermometer, then ya filter.. scape with 1 rock.. your fish got no room left. lolx..

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Added on October 7, 2008, 9:08 pmuse CPU fan will do.. but you have to top up water la everyday la

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Added on October 7, 2008, 9:13 pmWesley,

hi there, i think the wood might be a lil too big, maybe use 1 only instead of 2? again, try arranging in different manner, post some pics
wood usually will increase de pH by a lil.. boil them in a pot, change water and boil again... to reduce the tanning... if you use ADA soil.. supposedly will help lower the pH..

This post has been edited by Pumpkin_G: Oct 7 2008, 09:13 PM

erm... i also not sure.... using gravel lor... i thought of adding beach sand at the bottom for the plant to grow.... is it possible??.. will it affect the water pH as it is from seawater sand??...

if everything works well, i wont be changing water that often lor.... top up everyday and change mayb halftank water once in a while... mostly will depend on water filter to keep the water clean...

yeah, i do notice the lack of space limitation... datz why i jz planning for minature seabed grass lookalike plants... a rock mayb 5cm length will do... hahaha.....

but if possible i still prefer driftwood... any driftwood available which can grow abit of moss on top and yet doesnt affect water pH??...

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Added on October 7, 2008, 9:16 pmADA soil??....

This post has been edited by the_catacombs: Oct 7 2008, 09:16 PM

yeah, u can use driftwood of course.. tie moss on it too.. there's small driftwood you can get in LFS.. if you get it from natue, make sure you boil them..
maybe u can get some inspirations from here...

http://www.my-mac.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4056
http://www.my-mac.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1588