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post Oct 9 2008, 04:07 AM

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the size is like tis

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uber small lolx..~ one death ... T_T" jst bought today and i hv not taken advice from expert .. one left...
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post Oct 9 2008, 04:21 AM

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woah, this is very small, if like that, you need to get an air pump, if not then just WC everyday.
this is not my field, so i don't know much about it, just base on common sense only.
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post Oct 9 2008, 04:22 AM

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i will get a pump ASAP ... b4 my another terra die tq zoe ... tat shop keeper say
no nid one ...

ps: can i combine betta with terra?
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post Oct 9 2008, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Oct 9 2008, 03:00 AM)
upgraded my tank today.... hehe.... total damage today is rm65...

- 16"x10"x10" tank... rm15...
- driftwood 2 keping... rm6...
- fert soil (dunno what brand).... rm18 per kg.... bought 1kg only...
- moss.... rm6...
- dunno what plant looks like lalang... rm1...
- 8w florescent lamp... rm16...
- small white pebbles.... rm3... 1.5kg...

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everything seems nice.... but jz 1 main problem... dunno my plants will grow or not...

coz i'm using coral stone and no co2 pump... sad.gif  sad.gif
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shocking.gif !!!! OMG!!! CORAL!!! REMOVE IT!!! or else bye bye to ur plants!! throw it throw it!! blink.gif

get a ph tester, to check ph.

the white stone also pls check if its suitable to use.

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post Oct 9 2008, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Oct 9 2008, 12:23 PM)
shocking.gif !!!! OMG!!! CORAL!!! REMOVE IT!!! or else bye bye to ur plants!! throw it throw it!!  blink.gif

get a ph tester, to check ph.

the white stone also pls check if its suitable to use.
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lolz... relax... zoe warned me yday... removed it already yday... replaced with another driftwood.... and what kinda white sand/stone suitable for planted aquariums??...
zoejehuty
post Oct 9 2008, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ Oct 9 2008, 04:22 AM)
i will get a pump ASAP ... b4 my another terra die tq zoe ... tat shop keeper say
no nid one ...

ps: can i combine betta with terra?
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u can no use pump, but then water change everyday.
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post Oct 9 2008, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ Oct 9 2008, 04:22 AM)
i will get a pump ASAP ... b4 my another terra die tq zoe ... tat shop keeper say
no nid one ...

ps: can i combine betta with terra?
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hey there,
i think is a bad bad idea to keep tetra in that tiny tank.. they need room to swim. even you have aeration, those oxy bubble will coz a splash in ya tank.. and ya fish is gonna be really really stress..

solution, try find something bigger for it with aeration.. keep it slightly dark to keep the stress lvl down.. then meanwhile.. see what you wish to do next... a proper tank? or something at least bigger la..

i think tat size probably only suitable for Betta? *no betta expert here tongue.gif


Added on October 9, 2008, 10:09 pmCatacomb,

well, is good to see you really go for it biggrin.gif but i think you too anxious de la...hold ya horses.. no offence but i think you might not have done enough readings tongue.gif
sorry to say but i think your plants might not survive, moss got better chance over the other 2 sad.gif *hope u can prove me wrong...
lights too low and small.. there's only small area in ya tank is lid. where as ya plants are everywhere..
check ya water temp. important for most plants.

always always do research prior in getting them..
getting a pH test kit is a good idea, but i personally also think they're kinda exp.. so far i always go by the trial and error way tongue.gif *not when i got $$ CRS in there la laugh.gif

anyway, have fun..

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post Oct 9 2008, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Pumpkin_G @ Oct 9 2008, 09:59 PM)
Catacomb,

well, is good to see you really go for it biggrin.gif but i think you too anxious de la...hold ya horses.. no offence but i think you might not have done enough readings tongue.gif
sorry to say but i think your plants might not survive, moss got better chance over the other 2 sad.gif *hope u can prove me wrong...
lights too low and small.. there's only small area in ya tank is lid. where as ya plants are everywhere..
check ya water temp. important for most plants.

always always do research prior in getting them..
getting a pH test kit is a good idea, but i personally also think they're kinda exp.. so far i always go by the trial  and error way tongue.gif *not when i got $$ CRS in there la laugh.gif

anyway, have fun..
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the plant situated far right of my aquarium is called Cryptocoryne x willisii if not mistaken... it needs low light levels and slow growth... the other 2 more is called Tropical Hornwort and Water Hyssop, Bacopa... its kinda "almost" dead because previously i "preserved" it inside my friend's tank full with coral... haha... if it survives, ok lo... if not, i'm gonna replace it with other plant.... sweat.gif

yeap... i do notice i dont have sufficient lighting... gonna diy a few more florescent soon... icon_rolleyes.gif

currently i dont have a thermometer to check the water temp and pH tester to check the water.... but i do have a fan blowing at the helping the cooling system a little... hopefully can keep the temp below 30oC.... chiller??.... like u said, slow down... chiller is more towards moderate n extreme enthusiast adi.... tongue.gif

as for co2 supply... zoe did point out that i do need it... co2 supply from my fishes aint gonna be sufficient... hence, gonna diy one as well... icon_rolleyes.gif

i might have to worry about soon-to-grow algae... gonna get a CAE or SAE i guess.... so, thats basically it for my entry level tank... haha... we'll see how it gets on... smile.gif smile.gif

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post Oct 9 2008, 11:04 PM

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hahaha. so you did have a fan? then shud be alright la biggrin.gif
yeap. DIY CO2 is a good start biggrin.gif i wish you all the best ya, and hope to see more updates. eehehhe

SAE is better. but again, they might get aggressive when they're bigger..
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post Oct 9 2008, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(Pumpkin_G @ Oct 9 2008, 11:04 PM)
hahaha. so you did have a fan? then shud be alright la biggrin.gif
yeap. DIY CO2 is a good start biggrin.gif i wish you all the best ya, and hope to see more updates. eehehhe

SAE is better. but again, they might get aggressive when they're bigger..
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so far i've only found CAE in local fish shop... the tauke said if i scared CAE/SAE will turn aggresive when it grows big, she suggest i use a kinda shrimp which eats algae as well... she did recommend a few choice which i never heard before... mostly smaller than CAE/SAE.... laugh.gif
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post Oct 9 2008, 11:57 PM

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ya, mostly is CAE, but then i know where to get SAE in mlk here, as i get mine from there, tomorrow go with you and see see lo.
ya, there got few shrimp which also eat algae one, like cherry or yamato, if i not mistaken.
but then one thing keep in mind that shrimp very sensitive to water parameter.

oh ya, about the shrimp, i got one yamato shrimp, which nezu said it is yamoto, yesterday jump out of tank suicide already.
been in the tank all well doing for about 2 week plus already. haih...
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post Oct 10 2008, 12:13 AM

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last time i got 10 ottos , 10 yamatos for my algae arsenal ... smile.gif

anywa, anyone know where can i get BIGG lace rocks, let me knoww

my 4ft tank rescape .. please pardon the green bakul and plants flooting .. tongue.gif
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post Oct 10 2008, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Oct 9 2008, 11:57 PM)
ya, mostly is CAE, but then i know where to get SAE in mlk here, as i get mine from there, tomorrow go with you and see see lo.
ya, there got few shrimp which also eat algae one, like cherry or yamato, if i not mistaken.
but then one thing keep in mind that shrimp very sensitive to water parameter.

oh ya, about the shrimp, i got one yamato shrimp, which nezu said it is yamoto, yesterday jump out of tank suicide already.
been in the tank all well doing for about 2 week plus already. haih...
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lolz... suicidal attempt... RIP...

shrimp ahh??... good idea also... coz my tank quite alot of fish adi... today went LFS shopping again... bought 4 neons, 2 serpae and 2 silvertip.... sweat.gif sweat.gif now my tank vr meriah... laugh.gif
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post Oct 10 2008, 12:32 AM

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u should let the tank cycle first ... huhuhu
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post Oct 10 2008, 12:35 AM

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yaya, let tank cycle then only put in fish.
but anyway, shrimp is hard to keep, i admit, the only can keep is ghost shrimp for my tank...
tml go LFS again, then i show you the fish and all.
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post Oct 10 2008, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Oct 10 2008, 12:32 AM)
u should let the tank cycle first ... huhuhu
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nvm la let them cycle their own pace... i wont be around to take care of them for the next 3 months... leaving melaka heading to penang for industrial training... so i'll jz ask my housemate to top up water and feed my fishes... datz all.... datz why i need to settle da co2 and lighting asap before chao'ing... and the soon-to-be algae problem... sweat.gif
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post Oct 10 2008, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Oct 9 2008, 11:57 PM)
oh ya, about the shrimp, i got one yamato shrimp, which nezu said it is yamoto, yesterday jump out of tank suicide already.
been in the tank all well doing for about 2 week plus already. haih...
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yeah, shrimps are extremely sensitive to the water parameter. and if your shrimps decided to Kamikazee.. most likely ya water got prob..
Yamato is good at eating leftovers.. i still think Cherry is the better cleaner biggrin.gif


QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Oct 10 2008, 12:16 AM)
lolz... suicidal attempt... RIP...

shrimp ahh??... good idea also... coz my tank quite alot of fish adi... today went LFS shopping again... bought 4 neons, 2 serpae and 2 silvertip.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  now my tank vr meriah...  laugh.gif
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i think go for fish instead of shrimps for now coz ur tank is very unstable..but... your tank almost like throwing Rave Party de.. super packed!
hold your horses mate biggrin.gif you're going too quick!! stop buying fish, stop buying plants!! going LFS is good, but must hold yaself la. ehehhe..
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QUOTE(Pumpkin_G @ Oct 10 2008, 01:09 AM)
yeah, shrimps are extremely sensitive to the water parameter. and if your shrimps decided to Kamikazee.. most likely ya water got prob..
Yamato is good at eating leftovers.. i still think Cherry is the better cleaner biggrin.gif
i think go for fish instead of shrimps for now coz ur tank is very unstable..but... your tank almost like throwing Rave Party de.. super packed!
hold your horses mate biggrin.gif you're going too quick!! stop buying fish, stop buying plants!! going LFS is good, but must hold yaself la. ehehhe..
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haha... yeap... dont worry.... wallet is empty now... need to keep some money to fabricate a stand for extra florescent lamp and co2... expenditure approaching 100bucks already... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Oct 10 2008, 01:26 AM

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catacombs, tomorrow will be going look for fish and also lighting stuff lo, want to buy light reflector if can, haha...
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QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Oct 10 2008, 01:26 AM)
catacombs, tomorrow will be going look for fish and also lighting stuff lo, want to buy light reflector if can, haha...
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alrite.... lets go... wanna diy co2 and extra lighting... (go SKH pinjam 1 single par, water also evaporate finish in 1 day)... laugh.gif laugh.gif

ehh, u come my house see see my tank give me some advice ler... i dunno ok or not... fert soil dunno sufficient or not... dunno how to see got algae or not... dunno water temp (bring along thermometer ok).... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

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