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haturaya
post Sep 26 2017, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(redjol @ Sep 25 2017, 07:39 PM)
How much downpayment you guys usually put for big bike?  And from which bank u guys usually apply loan?
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Sep 26 2017, 09:52 AM)
Usually starting from 20 to 30 % from Banks....
If from Finance company  can go from 0%  however, the interest rate will kill you (At the end you pay either double or triple of your bike price)

Banks providing loan for Big Bike.. (from my knowledge)

1. Maybank
2. Al Rahji
3. Bank Islam*

Finance company providing loan for Big Bike

1. Aeon Credit
2. BSNC
3. BMW Credit**
4. Some Koperasi out there***

*= You need at least a GLC employee or Govt Servant
**= Mostly for BMW Motorrad Bike however they did for other brand as well you can check with your sales.
***= Some of them are scam .. better avoid..
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Sometime, personal loan is cheaper and less hassle.



QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Sep 26 2017, 10:10 AM)
cash is king. as with any loan, the more downpayment, the better.

nowadays got many finance institutions / tools to help apply for loan, but later cannot maintain monthly & maintenance.

that's why now got so many sambung bayar bikes, which is actually illegal.
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post Sep 26 2017, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Sep 26 2017, 09:52 AM)
Usually starting from 20 to 30 % from Banks....
If from Finance company  can go from 0%  however, the interest rate will kill you (At the end you pay either double or triple of your bike price)

Banks providing loan for Big Bike.. (from my knowledge)

1. Maybank
2. Al Rahji
3. Bank Islam*

Finance company providing loan for Big Bike

1. Aeon Credit
2. BSNC
3. BMW Credit**
4. Some Koperasi out there***

*= You need at least a GLC employee or Govt Servant
**= Mostly for BMW Motorrad Bike however they did for other brand as well you can check with your sales.
***= Some of them are scam .. better avoid..
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Naza credit too but only if you buy from them
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post Sep 26 2017, 05:24 PM

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harley say bye bye to Naza... biggrin.gif


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This post has been edited by basilisk: Sep 26 2017, 05:26 PM
haturaya
post Sep 27 2017, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 26 2017, 05:24 PM)
harley say bye bye to Naza...  biggrin.gif
https://goo.gl/h6E2qV
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So, who's gonna to pick up where Naza left? hmm.gif
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:01 AM

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Naza was lacking attention to HD due to carrying too many brands?
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Sep 27 2017, 07:28 AM)
So, who's gonna to pick up where Naza left?  hmm.gif
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Rumors said in PJ near Jaya 33...

then the JB one will be taking over by the SG based dealership..

Dont know abt Penang..
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Sep 27 2017, 10:01 AM)
Rumors said in PJ near Jaya 33...

then the JB one will be taking over by the SG based dealership..

Dont know abt Penang..
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gasket alley?
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(D'cruise61 @ Sep 27 2017, 10:01 AM)
Naza was lacking attention to HD due to carrying too many brands?
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could be one of the many reasons...
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post Sep 27 2017, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 27 2017, 10:48 AM)
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High chance. They are backed by Goh Bros. Big company too and the former Naza Bikes people are there as well.

Part of the problem COULD HAVE been that Naza was also selling recond Harleys and this might not have gone down well with the principals. Imagine brand new original bikes competing with much cheaper and some almost new recond bikes at a fraction of the price...I wouldn't be too happy too if I were the principal. I'm just speculating though...
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new KTM DUKE 250 390 launched yesterday..


will the legendary tagline " Ready To Claim " ... lives on... ?? brows.gif


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post Sep 27 2017, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 27 2017, 12:56 PM)
new KTM DUKE 250 390 launched yesterday..
will the legendary tagline " Ready To Claim " ... lives on... ??  brows.gif
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single cylinder.. dun want..tongue.gif
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post Sep 27 2017, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 27 2017, 11:12 AM)
High chance. They are backed by Goh Bros. Big company too and the former Naza Bikes people are there as well.

Part of the problem COULD HAVE been that Naza was also selling recond Harleys and this might not have gone down well with the principals. Imagine brand new original bikes competing with much cheaper and some almost new recond bikes at a fraction of the price...I wouldn't be too happy too if I were the principal. I'm just speculating though...
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That's one of the point.. there are few other factors

1. Greed.. selling bloated price tag for their Harleys..
2. Family feud business issue especially after the Datuk Naza departed...
3. Inability to provide good after service affecting the sales and many Harley Owner complained to principal directly..

Point no one is the biggest reason why the market flooded by recon Harley..

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post Sep 27 2017, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 27 2017, 12:56 PM)
new KTM DUKE 250 390 launched yesterday..
will the legendary tagline " Ready To Claim " ... lives on... ??  brows.gif
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This particular model was assembled and released in India before anywhere else. The small issues should be settled prior launching in Malaysia. What do you guys think?

Personally, I think the bike is good for town riding. It's light but with high torque. Maybe suitable as a starter bike?

Price wise is on the higher side. Near to Honda 500cc line like cb500, rebel 500.

However, it comes with full tft display, abs, sleeper clutch. Will it be a good buy?
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 27 2017, 12:56 PM)
new KTM DUKE 250 390 launched yesterday..
will the legendary tagline " Ready To Claim " ... lives on... ??  brows.gif
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Interested to see the 790 flex.gif
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Sep 27 2017, 02:31 PM)
That's one of the point.. there are few other factors

1. Greed.. selling bloated price tag for their Harleys..
2. Family feud business issue especially after the Datuk Naza departed...
3. Inability to provide good after service affecting the sales and many Harley Owner complained to principal directly..

Point no one is the biggest reason why the market flooded by recon Harley..
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True... Good luck with spare parts & after sale service. whistling.gif

Ask Aprilia owner.... Look at Aprilia after they took over the brand... Similar fate.
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post Sep 27 2017, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(wshazi @ Sep 27 2017, 03:27 PM)
This particular model was assembled and released in India before anywhere else.  The small issues should be settled prior launching in Malaysia. What do you guys think?

Personally, I think the bike is good for town riding. It's light but with high torque. Maybe suitable as a starter bike?

Price wise is on the higher side. Near to Honda 500cc line like cb500, rebel 500.

However, it comes with full tft display,  abs, sleeper clutch. Will it be a good buy?
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If the price is almost similar to CB500, wud rather buy the CB500. Double the cc and 2cylinder nod.gif
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Sep 27 2017, 02:31 PM)
3. Inability to provide good after service affecting the sales and many Harley Owner complained to principal directly..

And I thought they only have this issue with the cars they are selling. HD also? Sigh.
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post Sep 27 2017, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(D'cruise61 @ Sep 27 2017, 05:20 PM)
If the price is almost similar to CB500, wud rather buy the CB500.  Double the cc and 2cylinder nod.gif
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cb500f if compared to duke 390, the honda got like 98cc more oni.. cos it is 471 CC... biggrin.gif

alot of comparison online....

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post Sep 27 2017, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 27 2017, 05:58 PM)
cb500f if compared to duke 390, the honda got like 98cc more oni.. cos it is 471 CC...  biggrin.gif

alot of comparison online....

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That is the dyno comparison, in real life .. 2 cylinder is more versatile than 1 single bore.. surely you buy the bike for long distance gateway during weekend too right? unless only strictly urban commuting 100%..

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post Sep 28 2017, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Sep 27 2017, 11:05 PM)
That is the dyno comparison, in real life .. 2 cylinder is more versatile than 1 single bore.. surely you buy the bike for long distance gateway during weekend too right? unless only strictly urban commuting 100%..
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I'm actually has been eyeing this bike for quite some time. With abs, sleeper clutch and tft display, the launched price is expected. Cb500 don't have abs if I'm not mistaken. Furthermore, the difference in CCs is offset by the difference in weight.

Currently I'm riding scooter to work. From subang jaya to kl city centre daily. So, am looking at bike that can easily navigate through the NPE traffic.

Weekend ride is almost out of question at this moment. My weekend are full with kiddo swimming, tae kwan do, music class. Maybe after a year or two, am finally able to join the weekend ride.

Should I take the plunge?

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