If that's your objective, IMHO, that shouldn't be a problem. Product should follow your purpose and requirement. The Duke is a nice 'in-city' bike being slim and somewhat lightweight which makes it more manoeuvrable and the numbers on our roads kinda show just how popular the model is already. Just take it. But, do note that you might look for higher power later on ya.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Sep 28 2017, 11:38 AM

go ahead life is short... take the plunge.. hope they improve the CKD quality compare to the previous model...

Go for it.

hi everyone. i have a question but im not sure whether this is the right thread or better open a new thread but here it goes.


ive been using ex5 probably about three years now but actually the bike itself already 20 years old. passed down from my brothers. mostly just commuting around kl/pj but sometimes to cyberjaya too.


the bike itself not really much of a problem at all besides some occasional dead at traffic light, fuel meter not working, (and the clutch maybe a bit hard to masuk gear?). but to me, the biggest problem is its slow (im about 100kg lols) and the small tank.

ive been eyeing pulsar rs200 and ns200 but because of abs, rs200 is high likely to be my choice. my questions are:

1) the ex5 has always have a givi box at the back so its either i put my helmet inside it or clip under the seat. do those two have any option to hold the helmet in place?

2) do you carry around your raincoats in you bag everytime or is there anywhere to store them? looks like dun have but i might be wrong

3) its kinda hard for me to choose rs150 or yz15 instead of these two but the former two gives the versatility of kapchais hence can have bakul and box but the price difference not that great to consider having 50cc less.

well i hope you guys can help to answer my dilemma.. thanks all

i'm sure those rs200 can also be attach givi box..

our local mechanics very creative..

1. yes, if remember correctly, givi already release official bracket for that model.

2. i put my raincoat in my underseat compartment, but im using scooter. if u install top box, u can put there instead since that model only hv small compartment only, just enough for tools

3. yes, for the price, better to take ns/rs200, much better value.

thanks for the reply guys. just saw in one group someone selling the bracket for ns200 for rm800. to be honest though, for it really suits ns200 but not cool liao for rs200

yup, bike with full fairing + sportbike shape, putting boxes will make them ugly..

GIVI-HEAVY-DUTY-RACK-HRV-MODENAS-PULSAR-NS200
You mean this?

guys last weekend, there are 4 test rides events in the klang valley/selangor.
blessed with good weather, i managed to attend 2. and 1 kawa test ride @ motor sim the other weekend.

yamaha test ride @ welly rawang - mt07 mt09 tracer

moto guzzi @ gasket alley - dono which guzzi bike

ducati @ naza ducati pj - most ducati bikes

kawasaki @ wah motor superbike klang - the usual new kawa bikes.


kawa test ride @ motor sim jalan ipoh.

this is the 4th kawa test ride in KL, very generous of motor sim to held it for 2 days.
not many riders were there on sunday, and jalan ipoh is currently very messy due to mrt construction.

The bike shop have recommended a short route about 5km one round, from jalan ipoh head up and turn right to
taman metropolitan park, cross the new bridge, make a u turn and head back to bike shop.


z650 -

love the assist and slipper clutch, the clutch pull is so soft and effortless, good for traffic jam slipping clutch.
gear shift is very soft and shallow, would prefer it to have more solid feel. - abit hard to neutral, need to do it softly.

I personally don't like 180 inline2 firing order.
The dot dot dot dot dot dot.......... engine pulse is annoying and lumpy.



for rider with short legs, stock seat height is low, but the foot pegs position gets it the way and clash with your leg, ( cause your leg is short )
suspension at low speed did not absorb the harsh jalan ipoh surface well, bike is bouncing alot cause by road bums.

Vibrations, buzz @ 4k-6k rpm can be felt on the handle bars, foot pegs, and seat, if ur ass have enough fat, maybe can help absorb the buzz.

z900 -

low seat a plus for short legs.
seems to sit more upright compared to z650.

easy to handle for a 900cc bike. slipper clutch is soft just like z650.
can hardly feel any vibs @ bars, pegs, seat.

go over speed hump using 5th gear @ 20kmh dont have to downshift at all...
suspension seems to smoothen out jalan ipoh road bums, not bouncy like z650 at slow speed.

inline4 engine, doesn not have jerking/pulling feel of a 180 i2.


Yamaha test @ welly rawang.
Yamaha do have test bikes, and yamaha seems like not very enthusiastic in promoting their test ride.

Welly rawang is doing all the hard work. each test rider received a long sleeve tracer shirt and yamaha key chain.
There are games lucky draw, food etc organised by welly.

Bike shop assigned a marshal and a sweeper, to lead a group of 6 bikers out for a spin.
test bike 3 mt07, 2 mt09 1 tracer. seems like everyone is targeting the tracer, but not enough time.

The ride is 40km long from busy rawang town to selayang wet market and return.

Only managed to ride MT07.

MT07 -

Clutch is very hard.
Foot pegs are abit forward compared to z650, short legs place behind the pegs, not in the way.
270 crank and uneven firing gives a throaty engine feel, and no strong pulsing of a 180 i2.

Less engine braking/sudden strong dip if throttle close at 2nd or 3rd gear at low speed, compared to 180 i2.
Very maneuverable in traffic jam. Sits more upright compared to z650.

The torque feel of the engine, can be annoying to some riders.
It feels like the engine is a tightly wound spring, wanting to let go.. it is like a tension ( way i interpret it )
even the z900 which has higher torque value at all rpms compared to mt07, doesnt have this kinda tension feel.

Handble bar is very vibby and buzzing, way more than z650, some riders might feel the wrist might be damaged aft riding long distance.
Rear view mirror is blur, due to the vib.

Cant feel any buzz on pegs and seat/ass, compared to z650. If you clasp your thigh tight on the tank covers, you will feel the strong engine vibration.
Riding on jalan negeri , try to stay within speed limit of 90kmh-100, ~ 4-5k rpm.
Suspension is harsh on road bums just like z650.

The horn button, is the most important button for a biker.. and yamaha went on to design this piece....
make it small and hide it beside the turn signal... WTF..!



Ducati monster 797.

Test rider will follow a rider for a short spin around pj taman roads.
Cheapest new monster 53900 otr on offer that day, with some service offers for 2 years, free b full, free riding class.

Seat height tho measured the same as mt07, short legs need to tip toe.
wide bars will require short riders to lean forward. Hard clutch.
L twin engine doesnt have the pulsing feel of 180 i2.

Cant feel any buzz on seat and bars, but u get foot massage, buzzy on the pegs instead.
Suspension doesnt absord road bums like z900. quite harsh.
Might not be as nimble as mt07 or z650.


so that is my interpretation of the above bikes. each rider have their own, and tolerance level.

Highly advice to test ride before buying any bike.

This post has been edited by basilisk: Oct 2 2017, 05:46 PM

Thanks. Nice write up bro

Extensive write up...

So, which one is your personal pick?

Out of the lot, budget aside, which one do you really like?

Budget definitely either MT-07 or Z650 ..

My personal opinion would go for Z650.. Slipper clutch and ABS.. just bear with the engine sound like glorified kapchai sound..

Else wait for MT-07 Tracer version... but that would go against Versys already

welcome bro, no prob..

im on the lookout for new duke test ride ...

the ride is too brief to 'feel' more, so if more kawa test coming up, i dont mind go again..


I din manage to test mt09 remember....
mt 09 have a few points that i like, upright posture, stock height is ngam for my short legs, the pegs are jz lil bit backward,
and totally out of my legs way. It is not too heavy. Now just need to see how vibby the bike is, and how annoying the torque feel.

im a rider that go for the feel, not going for adrenaline rush, not kaki leper or kaki lenjan, i don't like pushing the bike screaming at high rpm.
sounds like im a cruiser guy, yes almost but i don like the low seat, and kaki kangkang forward position

My impression of riding inline4 bike (z900) - yes it has a nice screaming high pitched ekzos note, but u can hardly feel the engine,
it is like there is no engine on the bike.

Compared to riding a v twin or 270 i2, u can feel the engine grunt below, it is like you are riding something that is alive..

This post has been edited by basilisk: Oct 3 2017, 02:56 PM

actually got many local motovlog who hv test ride those bikes.

can follow them, if u understand malay of coz.









https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQV5lRzphm0&t=1s

Come to think of it, I didn't really noticed that feeling (was on a parallel twin, now on inline four). Lol...
To each their own I guess.

yes that is a start to get to know a bike, but different riders are looking for different things,

so the best way is to test it yourself.

i have to admit that a short ride, can't really tell anything, but at least you get to feel something..

This post has been edited by basilisk: Oct 3 2017, 02:33 PM

yes tru, humans can switch off a lot of senses at certain moments,

if im riding a bike home aft a long day at work, all thats in my head is food and mandi etc..

won't feel anything about the bike.

But if i purposely get on the bike to unwind, tht will be different...

Anyone knows can I go post office to renew my L license? Does UTC JPJ allow to renew L license ?