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 eUT / POEMs / Phillip Mutual Berhad UT discussion, Coz' Fundsupermart not cheapo enuf'!

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post Apr 19 2017, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 19 2017, 01:59 PM)
For all you know FSM is the one charging us  whistling.gif
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are you referring ML fund transfer to ML fund incur switching fee ?
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Apr 19 2017, 01:53 PM)
You switched and Manulife didn't charge Rm25? cool smile.gif
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if i'm not wrong , manulife is giving up to 6 free switching for manulife funds but i still haven't reach the quantity yet so couldn't vouch for it

maybe somebody can ask the Customer service
https://www.manulifeinvestment.com.my/Produ...nline-Switching

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post Apr 19 2017, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(repusez @ Apr 19 2017, 02:33 PM)
if i'm not wrong , manulife is giving up to 6 free switching for manulife funds but i still haven't reach the quantity yet so couldn't vouch for it

maybe somebody can ask the Customer service
https://www.manulifeinvestment.com.my/Produ...nline-Switching
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Yup. if my memory self me right is either 6 free switching / manu to manu no switching fee incur anymore, need to refer CIS. As last time I did from Manu China to Manu India system incur RM25, then I refer CIS they manually adjust to RM 0 due to system error.
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Apr 19 2017, 02:49 PM)
Yup. if my memory self me right is either 6 free switching / manu to manu no switching fee incur anymore, need to refer CIS. As last time I did from Manu China to Manu India system incur RM25, then I refer CIS they manually adjust to RM 0 due to system error.
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Thanks.. that is good info. During promo time the only thing anyone will save is some time and effort though.

This post has been edited by wodenus: Apr 19 2017, 03:16 PM
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post Apr 19 2017, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(repusez @ Apr 19 2017, 02:33 PM)
if i'm not wrong , manulife is giving up to 6 free switching for manulife funds but i still haven't reach the quantity yet so couldn't vouch for it

maybe somebody can ask the Customer service
https://www.manulifeinvestment.com.my/Produ...nline-Switching
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What's mentioned for retail customer directly under them might be not applicable for retail customers under nominee account.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Apr 19 2017, 07:30 PM
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post Apr 19 2017, 09:35 PM

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This thread has the really damaging potential of misguiding a lot of new investors by focusing on the costs.

The best time to invest is when the valuations of the funds are considered cheap, so you can achieve the best returns.

The best time is not when the sales charges are cheap. Learn more about Unit Trusts if you don't understand that means.

Please do not just look at the sales charges and be "led up the garden path".

As always, buyers beware. Know what you are doing before you hand out your money, because you may get back a lot less.


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QUOTE(howszat @ Apr 19 2017, 09:35 PM)
This thread has the really damaging potential of misguiding a lot of new investors by focusing on the costs.

The best time to invest is when the valuations of the funds are considered cheap, so you can achieve the best returns.

The best time is not when the sales charges are cheap. Learn more about Unit Trusts if you don't understand that means.

Please do not just look at the sales charges and be "led up the garden path".

As always, buyers beware. Know what you are doing before you hand out your money, because you may get back a lot less.
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This is a good point. Investors (whether new or old) are reminded not to just look at costs as the only factor when selecting the platform or the funds.


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This information is taken from morning star :-

http://my.morningstar.com/ap/FundSelect/re...ce&Type=YTDBest

Fund NameYTD Return(%)
1Areca EquityTRUST21.01
2InterPac Dynamic Equity20.49
3InterPac Dana Safi20.05
4Phillip Master Equity Growth19.40
5KAF TACTICAL FUND19.12
6Affin Hwang Select Asia (ex Jpn) Quantum18.74
7RHB Small Cap Opportunity Unit Trust17.69
8CIMB-Principal Wholesale Equity16.85
9PMB Shariah Growth16.63
10Manulife Investment - India15.97

Note that Phillip Master Equity Growth fund is position 4. It's available on eUT.

Phillip Master Equity Growth Fund clinched the Best Fund Award over 10 Years in the Equity MYR category at The Edge Thomson Reuters Lipper Fund Awards Malaysia 2017 on 27 Feb 2016.

Item 1 Areca Equity YTD return of 21.01, does not seem to be available on eUT.

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post Apr 20 2017, 11:05 AM

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When it comes to flipping property:

Lawyer fee is around 3% of the purchase price. Stamp duty is 3% Total = 6% sales charge.

When you sell, is another round of transaction cost, lawyer fee 3% = 3% exit fee or redemption fee.

Despite so high cost, nobody complain about flipping property wan ar? Strange hor? everyone happy happy pay for it.

UT I think is the only one that people want zero sales charge plus zero maintenance fee (zero platform / wrap fee) and still able to get it!

Strange but true.

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 20 2017, 11:05 AM)
When it comes to flipping property:

Lawyer fee is around 3% of the purchase price. Stamp duty is 3% Total = 6% sales charge.

When you sell, is another round of transaction cost, lawyer fee 3% = 3% exit fee or redemption fee.

Sell within short term kena RPGT somemore....

Despite so high transaction cost, nobody complain about flipping property wan ar? Strange hor? everyone happy happy pay for it.

UT I think is the only one that people want zero sales charge plus zero maintenance fee (zero platform / wrap fee) and still able to get it!

Strange but true.

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 20 2017, 11:05 AM)
When it comes to flipping property:

Lawyer fee is around 3% of the purchase price. Stamp duty is 3% Total = 6% sales charge.

When you sell, is another round of transaction cost, lawyer fee 3% = 3% exit fee or redemption fee.

Despite so high cost, nobody complain about flipping property wan ar? Strange hor? everyone happy happy pay for it.

UT I think is the only one that people want zero sales charge plus zero maintenance fee (zero platform / wrap fee) and still able to get it!

Strange but true.

rclxub.gif

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Property flippers are a different breed leh. Many are paying the price now when they bought their property investment under the DIBS programme. Starting to service their loans now, properties still on hand, unable to flip fast enough....They are many disgruntled flippers out there but just diam diam onli .. Chinese said...want to *save face*. bangwall.gif

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 20 2017, 11:05 AM)
When it comes to flipping property:

Lawyer fee is around 3% of the purchase price. Stamp duty is 3% Total = 6% sales charge.

When you sell, is another round of transaction cost, lawyer fee 3% = 3% exit fee or redemption fee.

Despite so high cost, nobody complain about flipping property wan ar? Strange hor? everyone happy happy pay for it.

UT I think is the only one that people want zero sales charge plus zero maintenance fee (zero platform / wrap fee) and still able to get it!

Strange but true.

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hmm.gif if there are channels that are charging less for property flipping, then there will be complaints...
if there is only 1 online UT channel, then there is no comparison complaints

btw,
for those that are keen to know "What's the difference for eUT(POEM) and FSM? Pros and cons"
read post 240, page 12
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4268975/+220#entry87151456



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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 20 2017, 01:36 PM)
hmm.gif if there are channels that are charging less for property flipping, then there will be complaints...
if there is only 1 online UT channel, then there is no comparison complaints
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I am under the impression that lawyers are governed by their professional body with respect to their professional charges. Now with GST and what not, lawyers who are willing to charge less, will be exposed to much higher risks.
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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 20 2017, 01:36 PM)
hmm.gif if there are channels that are charging less for property flipping, then there will be complaints...
if there is only 1 online UT channel, then there is no comparison complaints
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What do you mean? I don't understand you lah!

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 20 2017, 02:09 PM)
What do you mean? I don't understand you lah!

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There will be complaints as long as there are disparities of charges for something people perceive as same type of service. It's that simple.

The comparison is never between flipping properties and buying unit trust. That's chicken and duck comparison. The comparison is within the properties buyers and sellers. And among them, lawyers can't charge differently. So no complaint.

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Nav for interpacific funds for today 20th April :-

Fund nameNav%change
InterPac Dynamic Equity Fund0.44+0.89%
InterPac Dana Safi0.46+1.05%
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Apr 20 2017, 09:46 PM)
which bond fund to consider ?

Affin Hwang Select Bond ?
Asnita ?
RHB Islamic Bond Fund ?

Chart tool suggest Affin Hwang Select Bond. any comment ?
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Since people in FSM thread doesn't like me mentioning eUT, let me say it here.

If you are going to buy affin hwang and have > RM5k and can do lump sum (endorse by dasecret for lump sum not eUT aa she's not a fan of eUT) use eUT. Save on platform fees.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 20 2017, 10:01 PM)
Since people in FSM thread doesn't like me mentioning eUT, let me say it here.

If you are going to buy affin hwang and have > RM5k and can do lump sum (endorse by dasecret for lump sum not eUT aa she's not a fan of eUT) use eUT. Save on platform fees.
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But i m not a big fan of bond funds. Just temporarily park in one bond fund.
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Apr 20 2017, 10:04 PM)
But i m not a big fan of bond funds. Just temporarily park in one bond fund.
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If small and short term, no need bother about platfrom fees. Alternatively, can park in amanah saham. Now they have online portal for you to topup.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Apr 20 2017, 07:12 AM)
This information is taken from morning star :-

http://my.morningstar.com/ap/FundSelect/re...ce&Type=YTDBest

Fund NameYTD Return(%)
1Areca EquityTRUST21.01
2InterPac Dynamic Equity20.49
3InterPac Dana Safi20.05
4Phillip Master Equity Growth19.40
5KAF TACTICAL FUND19.12
6Affin Hwang Select Asia (ex Jpn) Quantum18.74
7RHB Small Cap Opportunity Unit Trust17.69
8CIMB-Principal Wholesale Equity16.85
9PMB Shariah Growth16.63
10Manulife Investment - India15.97

Note that Phillip Master Equity Growth fund is position 4. It's available on eUT.

Phillip Master Equity Growth Fund clinched the Best Fund Award over 10 Years in the Equity MYR category at The Edge Thomson Reuters Lipper Fund Awards Malaysia 2017 on 27 Feb 2016.

Item 1 Areca Equity YTD return of 21.01, does not seem to be available on eUT.
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First few names shifting position.

Fund NameYTD Return(%)
1InterPac Dana Safi21.31
2Areca EquityTRUST21.29
3Phillip Master Equity Growth19.40
4KAF TACTICAL FUND18.59
5Affin Hwang Select Asia (ex Jpn) Quantum18.18
6InterPac Dynamic Equity17.95



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