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 eUT / POEMs / Phillip Mutual Berhad UT discussion, Coz' Fundsupermart not cheapo enuf'!

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post Apr 18 2017, 10:21 AM

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Mega Funds Promotion 2017

13 April 2017 - 31 May 2017

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post Apr 18 2017, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(ronho @ Apr 18 2017, 11:57 AM)
ee bro, their charges also 2% for normal topups ?? Only promo period is mainly FOC.
FSM is 1.75 now
Did I read wrongly ??
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True.

But they have promotion quite regularly.

If I am not mistaken, this year they have 3 promos already including this one. Each promo last for +/- one month.

( Each promo the funds list under promo might not be the same.)


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post Apr 18 2017, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Apr 18 2017, 03:19 PM)
Indeed FSM not cheap enough but then how many of you have account in eUT now ?
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I have account with eUT.

I don't do DCA. So I have equity funds with eUT. I only do non-fixed interval top ups.
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post Apr 18 2017, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Apr 18 2017, 08:08 PM)
Sweet, i would try exploring eUT's website in detailed later today and may decided to open up an account with them in the next few days with an aim of purchasing bonds in the coming months.

Though is their platform reliable ?

Sorry if I've mistaken things, but there was a debate a few months ago on the FSM thread about the reliability of eUT's website right ? Like delays in transactions etc
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After using the system for a while, you will realize that their system essentially still depends on quite a bit of human operation. The web site and graphical user interface are mostly capturing data, writing logs, and then submit them for further backend operation.

That's why they could perform cancellation of order, as transaction is not performed automatically. After 3pm their staff pick up the transactions records, tally with payments and commit them accordingly.

If you are going to start using the system, getting your self familiar with transaction status and logs are important.

Their front end user interface as you might notice could be the work of some trainee programmers. LOL. Most of the error messages are harmless.

For example if you log out already and then you use back button to go back and hit the logout again, it will tell you a very scaring message '500 - Internal server error.' It is nothing.

Another common misunderstanding is on the main page is that they mentioned ' * non-tradeable online'. It means those funds ended with * are not tradeable online. It is not a foot note to say everything is not tradeable online.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Apr 18 2017, 08:57 PM
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post Apr 19 2017, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(biastee @ Apr 18 2017, 10:07 PM)
If i recall correctly, this year's promos were: Chinese New Year, Lipper Award, and now, Mega Promo. Between the last promo and the current one, there is just a 2 week gap. :-) So, it seems like one long continuous promo! Some of @Ramjade's favourite funds are recurrently on promo, including Manu REIT.
Actually the normal s/c for bond funds is not fixed at 1%. RHB Bond & Islamic bond are normally at 0%. AmTactical Bond is 2%.
The eUT web platform takes roughly the same number of days to update a purchase as FSM. However the eUT's email  confirming a transaction is much slower than FSM, e.g. purchased on 31 Mar. 2017, email sent on 17 Apr.
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Intra fund house equity fund to equity fund switching is free. So sometimes can use this scheme to buy equity funds for topping up funds from the same fund house.

For example, when Manulife Reit is under promotion, buy and keep ( as part of the investment ). And when needed can switch some to Manulife India to perform top up. This switching is not constraint by the 5k minimum.
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post Apr 19 2017, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Apr 19 2017, 12:28 PM)
Manulife will charge you Rm25 per switch though.
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Good point. Let me check the transaction logs. I saw the exact same amount was moved over. I will check the price and nav tallies or not. If it doesn't then the administrative charge has been incurred. Right ?
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post Apr 19 2017, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Apr 19 2017, 12:49 PM)
Good point. Let me check the transaction logs. I saw the exact same amount was moved over. I will check the price and nav tallies or not. If   it doesn't then the administrative charge has been incurred. Right ?
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I just reconfirmed from my transaction logs, the exact figured was honoured, there is no admin charges. The nav and units multiplied together tally exactly right upto to the rounding of second decimal point. The same happens to Eastspring.

I am under the impression that such only applies to RHB dinosaur.

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post Apr 19 2017, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 19 2017, 01:07 PM)
How do you open account with them? Need any commissioner of oath to verify our IC, etc?
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I don't remember having to go to that extent. I only remember I filled up everything, signed accordingly, scanned and email to them. Maybe I also snail-mailed the hardcopies to them. Btw, I am taking about eUT. Just to make sure there is no mixed ups.

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Apr 19 2017, 01:53 PM)
You switched and Manulife didn't charge Rm25? cool smile.gif
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I hope you are not going to stir shit at manulife for having charged RM25 on other platforms gua ?


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post Apr 19 2017, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 19 2017, 01:59 PM)
For all you know FSM is the one charging us  whistling.gif
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But RHB will charge, wherever you are ! I supposed they will shrink your target fund by whatever amount then only calculate units bought.
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QUOTE(repusez @ Apr 19 2017, 02:33 PM)
if i'm not wrong , manulife is giving up to 6 free switching for manulife funds but i still haven't reach the quantity yet so couldn't vouch for it

maybe somebody can ask the Customer service
https://www.manulifeinvestment.com.my/Produ...nline-Switching
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What's mentioned for retail customer directly under them might be not applicable for retail customers under nominee account.

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post Apr 20 2017, 06:51 AM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Apr 19 2017, 09:35 PM)
This thread has the really damaging potential of misguiding a lot of new investors by focusing on the costs.

The best time to invest is when the valuations of the funds are considered cheap, so you can achieve the best returns.

The best time is not when the sales charges are cheap. Learn more about Unit Trusts if you don't understand that means.

Please do not just look at the sales charges and be "led up the garden path".

As always, buyers beware. Know what you are doing before you hand out your money, because you may get back a lot less.
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This is a good point. Investors (whether new or old) are reminded not to just look at costs as the only factor when selecting the platform or the funds.


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post Apr 20 2017, 07:12 AM

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This information is taken from morning star :-

http://my.morningstar.com/ap/FundSelect/re...ce&Type=YTDBest

Fund NameYTD Return(%)
1Areca EquityTRUST21.01
2InterPac Dynamic Equity20.49
3InterPac Dana Safi20.05
4Phillip Master Equity Growth19.40
5KAF TACTICAL FUND19.12
6Affin Hwang Select Asia (ex Jpn) Quantum18.74
7RHB Small Cap Opportunity Unit Trust17.69
8CIMB-Principal Wholesale Equity16.85
9PMB Shariah Growth16.63
10Manulife Investment - India15.97

Note that Phillip Master Equity Growth fund is position 4. It's available on eUT.

Phillip Master Equity Growth Fund clinched the Best Fund Award over 10 Years in the Equity MYR category at The Edge Thomson Reuters Lipper Fund Awards Malaysia 2017 on 27 Feb 2016.

Item 1 Areca Equity YTD return of 21.01, does not seem to be available on eUT.

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post Apr 20 2017, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 20 2017, 01:36 PM)
hmm.gif if there are channels that are charging less for property flipping, then there will be complaints...
if there is only 1 online UT channel, then there is no comparison complaints
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I am under the impression that lawyers are governed by their professional body with respect to their professional charges. Now with GST and what not, lawyers who are willing to charge less, will be exposed to much higher risks.
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 20 2017, 02:09 PM)
What do you mean? I don't understand you lah!

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There will be complaints as long as there are disparities of charges for something people perceive as same type of service. It's that simple.

The comparison is never between flipping properties and buying unit trust. That's chicken and duck comparison. The comparison is within the properties buyers and sellers. And among them, lawyers can't charge differently. So no complaint.

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Nav for interpacific funds for today 20th April :-

Fund nameNav%change
InterPac Dynamic Equity Fund0.44+0.89%
InterPac Dana Safi0.46+1.05%
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Apr 20 2017, 07:12 AM)
This information is taken from morning star :-

http://my.morningstar.com/ap/FundSelect/re...ce&Type=YTDBest

Fund NameYTD Return(%)
1Areca EquityTRUST21.01
2InterPac Dynamic Equity20.49
3InterPac Dana Safi20.05
4Phillip Master Equity Growth19.40
5KAF TACTICAL FUND19.12
6Affin Hwang Select Asia (ex Jpn) Quantum18.74
7RHB Small Cap Opportunity Unit Trust17.69
8CIMB-Principal Wholesale Equity16.85
9PMB Shariah Growth16.63
10Manulife Investment - India15.97

Note that Phillip Master Equity Growth fund is position 4. It's available on eUT.

Phillip Master Equity Growth Fund clinched the Best Fund Award over 10 Years in the Equity MYR category at The Edge Thomson Reuters Lipper Fund Awards Malaysia 2017 on 27 Feb 2016.

Item 1 Areca Equity YTD return of 21.01, does not seem to be available on eUT.
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First few names shifting position.

Fund NameYTD Return(%)
1InterPac Dana Safi21.31
2Areca EquityTRUST21.29
3Phillip Master Equity Growth19.40
4KAF TACTICAL FUND18.59
5Affin Hwang Select Asia (ex Jpn) Quantum18.18
6InterPac Dynamic Equity17.95


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post May 17 2017, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(kingz113 @ May 17 2017, 01:56 PM)
anybody can share their experience using eUT? positive or negative? I'm enquiring with regard to their response time, ease of switching funds, navigation of site etc. thanks.
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I have my portfolio splitted between eUT and FSM.

The only positive thing worth mentioning about eUT is just the promotion rates, which comes pretty often.

Anything else are just basic, meet the purpose but nothing to shout about. One has to bend himself to suit eUT system and people, not the other way round. After you are accustomed to their people and system, then you basically get used to it. Different ways of doing things, basically. rclxm9.gif

Do you have other more specific questions ? Or this is adequate ?
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post May 17 2017, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 17 2017, 02:09 PM)
I haven't open with them yet. Will use eUT to buy Affin hwang select bond fund and save on platform charges.
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Still can't be classified as a user. blink.gif

Personally I don't see that so significant. You will probably disagree with me.

Anyway the May mega promotion will be ending soon !!!
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post May 17 2017, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(virgoguy @ May 17 2017, 02:47 PM)
Just found out that they have branch at kuching here as well. Will go and check it out for more details or maybe direct register from their office there. Thinking of buy the promo Affin hwang select bond fund as well
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Do think about subsequent top ups.

If you are the type who die die must practice DCA then you might find it somewhat problematic with regards to having to pay non-promo charges for top ups.

Or you just revise the top ups plans to VCA and switch to flexible timing with respect to top ups.



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