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post Jun 8 2017, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(LEO1989 @ Jun 8 2017, 03:51 PM)
why they cant move more title like this to switch!!!! why why why!!!! bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
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Long live 3DS rclxm9.gif

AFAIK a new SMT game is coming to Switch, Atlus is a lover company to Nintendo they will sure support Switch calm down boi laugh.gif
I personally wish to see titles of Nino-Kuni, Attorney series, Layton series on Switch.
I doubt that will happen as Switch is a home-console afterall
But Nintendo need to stop bringing Indie games and more Wii U ports already and announce the big hits say this E3
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QUOTE(sickboy @ Jun 8 2017, 04:25 PM)
Long live 3DS  rclxm9.gif

AFAIK a new SMT game is coming to Switch, Atlus is a lover company to Nintendo they will sure support Switch calm down boi  laugh.gif
I personally wish to see titles of Nino-Kuni, Attorney series, Layton series on Switch.
I doubt that will happen as Switch is a home-console afterall
But Nintendo need to stop bringing Indie games and more Wii U ports already and announce the big hits say this E3
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sometimes i do hate consoles company for prioritize on profit rather than providing the great platform for users. example, they could have port those demanding games from 3ds to switch. I cant see why devs dun wan this, the only thing is they worried they cant sell 3ds if they do that way.
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wait for another year to see hows switch games line up, hope they wont disappoint me
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Developers takes the safe bet and just go with a successful platform which is the 3ds.
Most still unsure if the Switch would do well, but sale wise it is, so by next year probably more games coming out to Switch. Just need to wait a bit.
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Eh, if they can do it for Monster Hunter XX, I don't see why they cant do it for the other games. Up-res those Pokemon USUM and Fire Emblem games and put it on eShop. That's the point that post about Citra was posted: MHXX Switch from what was shown is effectively an up-res version of its 3DS counterpart. Some folks sell off their 3DS to fund for the Switch, after Nintendo gives the impression that they're supporting the Switch heavily.......and now there are games only available on the portable they've just sold.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 8 2017, 05:07 PM)
Eh, if they can do it for Monster Hunter XX, I don't see why they cant do it for the other games. Up-res those Pokemon USUM and Fire Emblem games and put it on eShop. That's the point that post about Citra was posted: MHXX Switch from what was shown is effectively an up-res version of its 3DS counterpart. Some folks sell off their 3DS to fund for the Switch, after Nintendo gives the impression that they're supporting the Switch heavily.......and now there are games only available on the portable they've just sold.
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exactly, they should have offer both platform for user, if people wan cheaper and only portable, they can choose 2ds/3ds
they wan more premium and console , they can go for switch

but the problem now is they wan milk more money on 3ds/2ds, thats why they restricted to up-res and port to switch. I doubt its the technical issue which not allow the games to be ported to switch.
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Only 4 months in, and the newest console around. So it's a pretty good start for the Switch.
PS4, Xbone had a worse for 4 months than the Switch for me, exclusive wise.

Same like always for every new console adopters, just gotta wait for a bit.
Next year we'll be flooded with more game, with how the momentum is going at the moment.
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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jun 8 2017, 05:14 PM)
Only 4 months in, and the newest console around. So it's a pretty good start for the Switch.
PS4, Xbone had a worse for 4 months than the Switch for me, exclusive wise.

Same like always for every new console adopters, just gotta wait for a bit.
Next year we'll be flooded with more game, with how the momentum is going at the moment.
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yea, hope they wont mess up the coming years, i have high hope for switch platform. one of the my fav platform all this gamings years.
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mhxx do have some texture change, so it's not like a simple upres like some people originally thought. although, some ui is still obviously pixelated. cacpcom pls
QUOTE(LEO1989 @ Jun 8 2017, 03:51 PM)
why they cant move more title like this to switch!!!! why why why!!!! bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
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it's atlus, they're well known for lttp
plus, eov is a game that's even earlier released than a certain 5th game that cause this game's localization delayed
although, for the other 2... it's atlus being lttp like usual, just like them during early 3ds time

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QUOTE(kuroneko0509 @ Jun 8 2017, 05:43 PM)
mhxx do have some texture change, so it's not like a simple upres like some people thought

it's atlus, they're well known for lttp
plus, eov is a game that's even earlier released than a certain 5th game that cause this game's localization delayed
although, for the other 2... it's atlus being lttp like usual, just like them during early 3ds time
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Say there's texture change, "like some people thought" rolleyes.gif , Capcom does that conversion pretty quickly. What's the difficulty with porting shitty lower quality 240p Pokemon 3DS games then? Audience number? Pokemon reception rivals or even surpasses MH number of audiences. Look at the Citra emulator screenshot I quoted, it's done and done, the game hiding underneath that forced 240p resolution (so that you can play it on the 3DS) is beautiful, you just need to port it to the Switch with no added or extra effort needed, the Switch is plenty powerful enough to do so.

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Nintendo is just being the survivalist that they are: they want to have their cakes on both platforms and eat it both too. Either that or they just wanna appease those who's stubbornly stuck with their 3DS not to feel so bad when their games are available and in much better form than on their 3DSes. Not that this is gonna make a difference, Nintendo's gonna Nintendo.
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Urgh, keywords like "mundane" and "routine" mentioned for a review video. No thanks.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 8 2017, 05:59 PM)
Say there's texture change, "like some people thought" rolleyes.gif , Capcom does that conversion pretty quickly. What's the difficulty with porting shitty lower quality 240p Pokemon 3DS games then? Audience number? Pokemon reception rivals or even surpasses MH number of audiences. Look at the Citra emulator screenshot I quoted, it's done and done, the game hiding underneath that forced 240p resolution (so that you can play it on the 3DS) is beautiful, you just need to port it to the Switch with no added or extra effort needed, the Switch is plenty powerful enough to do so.

user posted image

Nintendo is just being the survivalist that they are: they want to have their cakes on both platforms and eat it both too. Either that or they just wanna appease those who's stubbornly stuck with their 3DS not to feel so bad when their games are available and in much better form than on their 3DSes. Not that this is gonna make a difference, Nintendo's gonna Nintendo.
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This is very interesting.. For real though?

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Please la.. Not everyone can afford Switch. Of course they still want to support 3DS and the upcoming new 2DS. I dunno why is it wrong for them to support both since DS is still highly sought after. Want Nintendo to become like Sony ka, abandon Vita mcm illegitimate child saja.. And why so sour about the latest Direct? I personally think it is too early to get a new Pokemon after SunMoon. You people think creating game so easy ka? Give their employees some break la aiyooo...

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QUOTE(Chocobos @ Jun 8 2017, 08:53 PM)
Please la.. Not everyone can afford Switch. Of course they still want to support 3DS and the upcoming new 2DS. I dunno why is it wrong for them to support both since DS is still highly sought after. Want Nintendo to become like Sony ka, abandon Vita mcm illegitimate child saja.. And why so sour about the latest Direct? I personally think it is too early to get a new Pokemon after SunMoon. You people think creating game so easy ka? Give their employees some break la aiyooo...
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Uhm, it's called a win-win situation, where you support both devices... Like A LOT of Switch games including Fire Emblem Warriors and MHXX.
A lot of people also happen to sell away their 3DS to buy Switch. If you want to talk about supporting both, that is exactly what they should've done.
Also don't compare it to the DS vs 3DS situation since 3DS can play DS game.
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QUOTE(Chocobos @ Jun 8 2017, 08:53 PM)
Please la.. Not everyone can afford Switch. Of course they still want to support 3DS and the upcoming new 2DS. I dunno why is it wrong for them to support both since DS is still highly sought after. Want Nintendo to become like Sony ka, abandon Vita mcm illegitimate child saja.. And why so sour about the latest Direct? I personally think it is too early to get a new Pokemon after SunMoon. You people think creating game so easy ka? Give their employees some break la aiyooo...
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well, me personally hope for support both platform, i just hope that they will support both. not just support the ones with profit. if nintendo dun wan to bring pokemon sun and moon to switch, its kinda the same thing like sony does(focus more on the platform which bring them more money).
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 8 2017, 05:59 PM)
Say there's texture change, "like some people thought" rolleyes.gif , Capcom does that conversion pretty quickly. What's the difficulty with porting shitty lower quality 240p Pokemon 3DS games then? Audience number? Pokemon reception rivals or even surpasses MH number of audiences. Look at the Citra emulator screenshot I quoted, it's done and done, the game hiding underneath that forced 240p resolution (so that you can play it on the 3DS) is beautiful, you just need to port it to the Switch with no added or extra effort needed, the Switch is plenty powerful enough to do so.

user posted image

Nintendo is just being the survivalist that they are: they want to have their cakes on both platforms and eat it both too. Either that or they just wanna appease those who's stubbornly stuck with their 3DS not to feel so bad when their games are available and in much better form than on their 3DSes. Not that this is gonna make a difference, Nintendo's gonna Nintendo.
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i'm just talking in general reaction when the trailer was first shown back during monhun championship where some people really thought switch ver. is just a simple upres (especially after ppl pointed out the ui is pixelated compared to mh3u hd) whereas it isn't when official screenshots came out + gameplay during Capcom tv. that bolded quote isn't directed at you if you thought it is in the first place

back to the hot stuff which is pokemon. i'd say a lot of people bought too much stock in eurogamer pokemon star rumour, where as past history with regard to pokemon mainline always tells us otherwise. i'm talking about:
1. new mainline never exist for a new device's 1st year
2. except for crystal, no other generation is crossgen. although this point debatable as some people didn't separate original Gameboy with Gameboy colour
3. standard pokemon generation last 3-4 years average, and gen 7 isn't even 1 year yet

let's go back a few days & ignore the ultra sun/moon announcement for a bit. there's 3 possible situation for a new mainline pokemon to be on:
1. switch exclusive
2. 3ds exclusive
3. switch + 3ds

option 1 probably what most switch owners want. option 2 is the easiest option to go. option 3 is best of the 2 worlds. mhxx opted for 3rd option, albeit staggered release hoping for some double dip. like I said days ago, 3rd option need to solve the connectivity issue as communication between players is key. mhxx did it, but limiting its interaction to online only. i'd say pokemon cannot opt that path because as much as ppl are loner & playing it at home w/o interaction face to face with other ppl, they (as in pokemon company & Nintendo) really promote face to face interaction, evidently strong lately with sun/moon commercials/trailers since last year.

now, i'm not totally disagreeing with everything that you posted with regard to pokemon, but let me ask for some clarification. which of the three option... actually no, option 1 or 3 (since you really hate the fact ultra sun/moon is on 3ds only) you would choose if you're game freak director, pokemon company boss or anyone that actually decide which platform to pick?

edit: oh, bonus stuff
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p...&postcount=1135
read it and give your calm, honest thought about it, with regard to the target demographics mainly

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QUOTE(nintendo86 @ Jun 8 2017, 08:08 PM)
This is very interesting..  For real though?
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for real.

Have you seen Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild running in 4K? The graphics and texture assets are just up-ressed from the stock graphics, and it looks magnificent in 4K. I've tested it on the emulator (CEMU), but the ever changing nature of emulator and requirement to download updated versions of the emulator, needs to retweak. But the fact is, assets already present inside the game is beautiful enough for the game to run by increasing the resolution. The same principle with 3DS and its Citra emulator, the only thing holding it back is the pathetic hardware inside the 3DS itself. Move those assets to Switch and you have the same effect as you've seen there. Games these days running on emulators are developed with graphics engine with in-game quality toggles already built-in, all you need is to enable them on different hardware.

That's the technical side of it, but judging from the reaction of Nintendo fans (here and elsewhere), they'll even take the game at 240p as it is, and even then, running it rendered at 240p, and blowing it up to 720 screen on the switch, would already show huge improvement over the shitty screen of the 3DS.
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QUOTE(kuroneko0509 @ Jun 9 2017, 12:17 AM)
i'm just talking in general reaction when the trailer was first shown back during monhun championship where some people really thought switch ver. is just a simple upres (especially after ppl pointed out the ui is pixelated compared to mh3u hd) whereas it isn't when official screenshots came out + gameplay during Capcom tv. that bolded quote isn't directed at you if you thought it is in the first place

back to the hot stuff which is pokemon. i'd say a lot of people bought too much stock in eurogamer pokemon star rumour, where as past history with regard to pokemon mainline always tells us otherwise. i'm talking about:
1. new mainline never exist for a new device's 1st year
2. except for crystal, no other generation is crossgen. although this point debatable as some people didn't separate original Gameboy with Gameboy colour
3. standard pokemon generation last 3-4 years average, and gen 7 isn't even 1 year yet

let's go back a few days & ignore the ultra sun/moon announcement for a bit. there's 3 possible situation for a new mainline pokemon to be on:
1. switch exclusive
2. 3ds exclusive
3. switch + 3ds

option 1 probably what most switch owners want. option 2 is the easiest option to go. option 3 is best of the 2 worlds. mhxx opted for 3rd option, albeit staggered release hoping for some double dip. like I said days ago, 3rd option need to solve the connectivity issue as communication between players is key. mhxx did it, but limiting its interaction to online only. i'd say pokemon cannot opt that path because as much as ppl are loner & playing it at home w/o interaction face to face with other ppl, they (as in pokemon company & Nintendo) really promote face to face interaction, evidently strong lately with sun/moon commercials/trailers since last year.

now, i'm not totally disagreeing with everything that you posted with regard to pokemon, but let me ask for some clarification. which of the three option... actually no, option 1 or 3 (since you really hate the fact ultra sun/moon is on 3ds only) you would choose if you're game freak director, pokemon company boss or anyone that actually decide which platform to pick?

edit: oh, bonus stuff
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p...&postcount=1135
read it and give your calm, honest thought about it, with regard to the target demographics mainly
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this option: 3DS + Switch concurrent release. those who have 3DSes have the portable version of the game, and those who chose to spend more on the Switch have the rare option of having both the portable AND the home console version of a Pokemon game. Win-win. There is no downside of releasing these Pokemon games concurrently on both platforms. Why anyone would only want new Pokemon games only on 3DS and not on the Switch baffles me.

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