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post Mar 13 2007, 08:24 AM, updated 18y ago

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I'm sure a lot of us wanna get a puppy, but dunno wat need to be prepare, how to care for a puppy, say..........2 months old.
WHat should be the brand of the food?
How much should the puppy being fed? How many times per day?
How to take care of the pee and poo problem?
What should be done for its health care, jab, pills.........
How to stop puppy from crying at nite?
How to make it understand that commands?
WHen should it be toilet trained?
For apartment dog, and working owner, how to take care of them?

etc etc........
Those who r experience it do share their knowledge. Although i din own one, but I'm willing to learn as well before getting one.
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i never seen dog cry.. how it looks like ?
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Mar 13 2007, 08:24 AM)
I'm sure a lot of us wanna get a puppy, but dunno wat need to be prepare, how to care for a puppy, say..........2 months old.

WHat should be the brand of the food?
How much should the puppy being fed? How many times per day?
How to take care of the pee and poo problem?
What should be done for its health care, jab, pills.........
How to stop puppy from crying at nite?
How to make it understand that commands?
WHen should it be toilet trained?
For apartment dog, and working owner, how to take care of them?

etc etc........
Those who r experience it do share their knowledge. Although i din own one, but I'm willing to learn as well before getting one.
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WHat should be the brand of the food?
science plan lamb and rice flavour ( do not buy those band which is from supermarket ) example : Alpo , pedigree and etc...

How much should the puppy being fed? How many times per day?
twice a day . morning and night . depend how u arrange the time .

How to take care of the pee and poo problem?
train ur puppy when the first day you own it . some people like their furkid to poo / pee at cage then have to wash the cage after their puppy do their bussiness , depend where you let ur puppy stay , outdoor or indoor ?

What should be done for its health care, jab, pills.........
every puppy have to take 3 jab . vaccination and deworm

How to stop puppy from crying at nite?
clap ur hand hardly. never hit the puppy . because they dunno anything when they still small

How to make it understand that commands?
Train it . patience is important . different command got different method .

WHen should it be toilet trained?
when the first day u get the puppy .

For apartment dog, and working owner, how to take care of them?
arrange ur time nicely . allow ur dog be more independent . make sure ur puppy will not make sure when let ur puppy alone in a home / room . make sure will not bother ur neighbour ^^

u ask this all question , u plan to get one puppy soon ar ?hope u will get a puppy soon then . good luck rclxms.gif

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Good thread.... I guess this would help many who are new dog owners....

Type of Breed
- Apartment dogs got to be medium to small size. Big dogs are hard to care for they are big, so space may be a problem. Big dogs are prone to joint disorders so if they are kept in an apartment with no daily excercise, they can lose the ability to walk properly and joint problems are very painful. Small dogs, people can always go for toy poodles, silky terrier, chihuahua, shih tzu, maltese, cavalier king charles spaniel, pugs... all dogs will surely bark so one must train them to be quiet in an apartment. If one has landed property, any dog would be suitable for the home but the type of dog depends on the person's lifestyle... mongrels are the best if someone has a busy lifestyle since they do not need much grooming and are not too big.

Brand of Food
- The best is of course Holistic. If you were to get a dog that is prone to skin problems, one should give California Natural a try. It really does improve the skin and fur. Other holistic types of dogfood are Canidae, NutriEdge, EaglePack Holistic, Innova Holistic... there are more brands but I will just mention those for now. If you can't locate holistic, go for super premium like Eukanuba, Nutro, Blackwood, ProFormance....
- How to locate a good brand of dogfood? Look at the ingredients, the first 5 listed food ingredients used should not be corn or wheat, should not be Meal, should not be Chicken Digest or by-products.... Choose one that says Chicken or Lamb.... not meal but the meat. Dogs can be allergic to beef and beef can attract more ticks.
- If one wants to feed a homecooked diet, you must take into consideration of the amount of meat, rice and vegie. Also, homecooked meals may not contrain minerals that dogs need so you must give vitamin supplement tablets and also Omega oils to keep the dog healthy. Dogs on homecooked meals are also proned to teeth decay so the owner has to clean the teeth after everymeal.

Times to be fed
- A 2 month old puppy would need 3 small meals a day.... the best is soaked puppy food. Soak the food with a bit of water is good enough. When it is about 5 to 6 months old, the feed can be lessen to 2 meals a day but the portion should increase since they have grown. Adult dogs should be fed twice a day also but if one can't feed twice a day, make sure the once a day meal is sufficient for them. Well, the best is still twice a day. Amount of food depends on the brand. On the packaging there is a diagram that gives a guide on how much food should be fed to dogs according to weight and size and age.

Puppy cries at night
- A young puppy will normally cry at night during the 1st week. Barks and whimpers and whines.... but you can lessen that. First, place your puppy in it's cage adn crate that it uses to sleep. Take an alarm clock that makes loud ticking noise. Place the clock next to the cage. The ticking noise can calm and sooth a puppy for it sounds like their mother's heartbeat. Then, you can add a soft toy to make it feel secure and get a hotwater bottle and wrap with a cloth to make it feel warm....
- A puppy likes company and they dislike being alone. For me, I let my puppy sleep with me. Just place the cage in your bedroom and it should be fine. If you want the pup to sleep in other place, follow the cage and clock method. The pup will still make noise at night but it should be much less.

Toilet training
- This can be done at an early age. You must be aware that puppies will pee and poo every 4 hours. So the best time is after it wakes up from sleep, after play and after food. Newspaper can be used as a training tool. Get a piece of newspaper with some urine soaked into it and use that as a guide. Everytime you notice the puppy circling and sniffing the floor. Carry it to the newspaper spot and make sure it pees and poos on the newspaper. You must stay and watch. When the puppy has done its business, straight away praise your pup, give lots of hugs and pats and use a happy tone. You can reward with a piece of dried dog food or its favourite toy. If this fails, can always buy doggy training pads, it may work.

Health care
- Pups should be taken to the vet as soon as you get them home. Ask the vet for a full check up. Normally the pup has already been vaccinated at the breeder's place. A pup can start vaccination at 2 months old, along with deworming. Then it will need to get a few more jabs before it can be done yearly. This you can ask the vet for they will give you a medical card with the details of when the next jab should be. Deworming can be done every 6 months. Once the pup is about 7 months old, you can start giving heart worm medication, again ask a vet for advice.
- if you are not breeding your dog, females should be spayed coz their heat(period) can be messy and attract many male dogs to your house. Male dogs may spray their urine everywhere to mark their territory so if they are nuetered, they will not simply urinate everywhere. Cleaner I would say.

Training and commands
- when you 1st bring home the pup, you must train it to anwser to its name. No need to go into other commands first, just make sure the puppy knows its name. Keep calling it during play and everytime you cuddle and pet it.... soon it will get the picture. Then you can move to the command "come". Use a leash to leash up your pup, then call it to come and pull the leash gently to bring the pup to you. Do this with treats and praises. Then once come is mastered, you can move on to more commands...
Keep training twice or 3 times a day. All training sessions should be not longer than 10 minutes coz puppies have short attention spans... do it everyday and in 3 days to a week, a puppy can master a few commands in no time.
The best is to get a guide book on training also.


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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Mar 13 2007, 08:24 AM)
I'm sure a lot of us wanna get a puppy, but dunno wat need to be prepare, how to care for a puppy, say..........2 months old.
WHat should be the brand of the food?
How much should the puppy being fed? How many times per day?
How to take care of the pee and poo problem?
What should be done for its health care, jab, pills.........
How to stop puppy from crying at nite?
How to make it understand that commands?
WHen should it be toilet trained?
For apartment dog, and working owner, how to take care of them?

etc etc........
Those who r experience it do share their knowledge. Although i din own one, but I'm willing to learn as well before getting one.
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WHat should be the brand of the food?
Hmmm, Go Natural, Evolve, Royal Canin are some food you can feed. There are also many good brands out there so wait others reply you.
How much should the puppy being fed? How many times per day?
Puppy should be fed 3 times a day but each time with small meals.

How to take care of the pee and poo problem?
Just clean them and flush into your toilet bowl.

What should be done for its health care, jab, pills.........
It should be vaccined either monthly or annualy (not sure). You should also buy med like heartguard to prevent disease. Frontline is used when ur dog is infected with mites/lice/ticks.
If you keep dogs like Shih Tzu, expenses might be higher since you will send him for grooming or if you want, you can DIY.

How to stop puppy from crying at nite?
Juz put a clock beside the pup. The ticking will resemble his mommy;s heartbeat. And dont visit the dog when he is crying coz it will only encourage him to cry coz he will think when he cry, the stupid owner will come running all the way to see me. .

How to make it understand that commands?
Repeat the commands when he is doing the action. Eg, when he is sitting, repeat the command sit. After that, when he sits, give him some treat and praise him. But do not ever scold him and show that you are frustated. Train only when you are in good mood.

WHen should it be toilet trained?
ASAP. You wouldnt want to clean his poo and pee everyday.

For apartment dog, and working owner, how to take care of them?
Buy him many toys to keep him occupied. Or take him for a walk/run before you go to work, so he might be tired and will sleep when you are working.

I answer this based on what I had read. So actually, I do not know if they are correct or not. LOL....

haha. i m so slow yawn.gif

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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Mar 13 2007, 09:36 AM)
WHat should be the brand of the food?
Hmmm, Go Natural, Evolve, Royal Canin are some food you can feed. There are also many good brands out there so wait others reply you.
How much should the puppy being fed? How many times per day?
Puppy should be fed 3 times a day but each time with small meals.

How to take care of the pee and poo problem?
Just clean them and flush into your toilet bowl.

What should be done for its health care, jab, pills.........
It should be vaccined either monthly or annualy (not sure). You should also buy med like heartguard to prevent disease. Frontline is used when ur dog is infected with mites/lice/ticks.
If you keep dogs like Shih Tzu, expenses might be higher since you will send him for grooming or if you want, you can DIY.

How to stop puppy from crying at nite?
Juz put a clock beside the pup. The ticking will resemble his mommy;s heartbeat. And dont visit the dog when he is crying coz it will only encourage him to cry coz he will think when he cry, the stupid owner will come running all the way to see me. .

How to make it understand that commands?
Repeat the commands when he is doing the action. Eg, when he is sitting, repeat the command sit. After that, when he sits, give him some treat and praise him. But do not ever scold him and show that you are frustated. Train only when you are in good mood.

WHen should it be toilet trained?
ASAP. You wouldnt want to clean his poo and pee everyday.

For apartment dog, and working owner, how to take care of them?
Buy him many toys to keep him occupied. Or take him for a walk/run before you go to work, so he might be tired and will sleep when you are working.

I answer this based on what I had read. So actually, I do not know if they are correct or not. LOL....
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Good wor hehehe.... yups, good advice thumbup.gif I think the best advice would come from a book.... I think I got 3 dog care books with me, read till memorize some stuff already. The vaccination, 3 jabs are done in 1 year.... after that cycle is over, jabs are done annually.

Also, puppies very smart. If they cry and we go to them, soon it will become a bad habit. Sometimes we must be stern and ignore them when they bark too much.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 13 2007, 09:42 AM)
Good wor hehehe.... yups, good advice thumbup.gif I think the best advice would come from a book.... I think I got 3 dog care books with me, read till memorize some stuff already. The vaccination, 3 jabs are done in 1 year.... after that cycle is over, jabs are done annually.

Also, puppies very smart. If they cry and we go to them, soon it will become a bad habit. Sometimes we must be stern and ignore them when they bark too much.
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internet got tons of useful tips too...so v can try to be a little more environment conservative.... tongue.gif
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Not to forget another important aspect, how do you select the right pup as well as selecting the right breeder.
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Get a book if you can, they'll teach you from A-Z when getting a pup in the book. That'll help you a lot.
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very informative for new owners!!!!
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QUOTE(uncle9 @ Mar 13 2007, 08:53 AM)
i never seen dog cry.. how it looks like ?
u should get more guideline from the clinic.
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Not exactly crying but whining lor. Whines in a very sympathetic tone lor. I guess the questions are all being answered above already. Very informative!! thumbup.gif
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another question comes to my mind, how often does a puppy poo and pee?? like just after meal?? or wat??
My fren jsut bought a shih Tzu last nite (thats y makes me wanna get one also, haha.....). before she goes to work this morning, she fed the puppy. Then she go back to check on the puppy during lunch time. But she did not find any poo in or under the cage, y?? the puppy din poo or it just ate it up??
SHe told me that she feed the pup 2 scoops (chinese soup spoon) of Nutriedge Puppy, enuf??

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QUOTE(hao @ Mar 13 2007, 11:43 AM)
Get a book if you can, they'll teach you from A-Z when getting a pup in the book. That'll help you a lot.
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yeah get a book will get a better information , or search website . last time i used to be that way biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Mar 13 2007, 05:44 PM)
another question comes to my mind, how often does a puppy poo and pee?? like just after meal?? or wat??
My fren jsut bought a shih Tzu last nite (thats y makes me wanna get one also, haha.....). before she goes to work this morning, she fed the puppy. Then she go back to check on the puppy during lunch time. But she did not find any poo in or under the cage, y?? the puppy din poo or it just ate it up??
SHe told me that she feed the pup 2 scoops (chinese soup spoon) of Nutriedge Puppy, enuf??
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Your friend bought the puppy from where? Normally a good breeder would help you by guiding and giving advice... petshops normally won't give the correct answers...

Anyway, 2 chinese soup spoon? It is better for your friend to weigh the food.... or get those measuring cups from the petshops.... How many times does your friend feed it? A growing puppy should eat as much as it wants for now... limiting food, especially when so little can cause growth problems... maybe slow growth or weak bones.... anyway, your friend should have 1/4 cup of dogfood, divide it to 3 meals... then feed the puppy 3 meals. Young puppies should eat 3 meals a day.

Has your friend brought the puppy for a check up yet? Dewormed? I could be it ate it.... you can always check by smelling the mouth. I know it sounds disgusting but a puppy is like a baby, they dunno what is right and what is wrong so you must keep up with them. Puppies poo more often than adults.... so if it doesn't poo, it could be constipation or if can't find the poo, it could mean it ate it.
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Mar 13 2007, 05:44 PM)
another question comes to my mind, how often does a puppy poo and pee?? like just after meal?? or wat??
My fren jsut bought a shih Tzu last nite (thats y makes me wanna get one also, haha.....). before she goes to work this morning, she fed the puppy. Then she go back to check on the puppy during lunch time. But she did not find any poo in or under the cage, y?? the puppy din poo or it just ate it up??
SHe told me that she feed the pup 2 scoops (chinese soup spoon) of Nutriedge Puppy, enuf??
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juz some advice.. keeping a dog is a long time commitment. so buy only if u really/badly wanted one. dun wan dogs end up in SPCA later. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 13 2007, 07:25 PM)
Your friend bought the puppy from where? Normally a good breeder would help you by guiding and giving advice... petshops normally won't give the correct answers...
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yeah a good breeder will guide you . and give advise. last time i bought miniature schnanuzer from breeder . and he do guide me and teach me the correct way to take care a pet.

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 13 2007, 07:25 PM)
Your friend bought the puppy from where? Normally a good breeder would help you by guiding and giving advice... petshops normally won't give the correct answers...

Anyway, 2 chinese soup spoon? It is better for your friend to weigh the food.... or get those measuring cups from the petshops.... How many times does your friend feed it? A growing puppy should eat as much as it wants for now... limiting food, especially when so little can cause growth problems... maybe slow growth or weak bones.... anyway, your friend should have 1/4 cup of dogfood, divide it to 3 meals... then feed the puppy 3 meals. Young puppies should eat 3 meals a day.

Has your friend brought the puppy for a check up yet? Dewormed? I could be it ate it.... you can always check by smelling the mouth. I know it sounds disgusting but a puppy is like a baby, they dunno what is right and what is wrong so you must keep up with them. Puppies poo more often than adults.... so if it doesn't poo, it could be constipation or if can't find the poo, it could mean it ate it.
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SHe bought the puppy from pet shop loh, the SK pet shop........They advise her to feed the puppy that amount of food one. The Shih Tzu got cert, got her 1st jab and dewormed.... Will get her next jab i think around earlier of next month if not mistaken. She say got jab card, but din show me lah.
Anyway, she told me that last nite after work, she feed the puppy, then within 5 minutes, the puppy poo poo!!! then she clean it on the spot, no chance for it to eat!!!
When she bring her out to play in the living room, immediately it pee, so she ask me how to toilet train the puppy wor.....
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Mar 14 2007, 08:47 AM)
SHe bought the puppy from pet shop loh, the SK pet shop........They advise her to feed the puppy that amount of food one. The Shih Tzu got cert, got her 1st jab and dewormed.... Will get her next jab i think around earlier of next month if not mistaken. She say got jab card, but din show me lah.
Anyway, she told me that last nite after work, she feed the puppy, then within 5 minutes, the puppy poo poo!!! then she clean it on the spot, no chance for it to eat!!!
When she bring her out to play in the living room, immediately it pee, so she ask me how to toilet train the puppy wor.....
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Wahhh... so your friend is asking you to research for her but not doing it herself?

2 tablespoons of food is not enough for a puppy if fed twice a day.... if she feeds 3 or 4 times a day then yah, it is ok. As said before, petshops have limited knowledge sometimes.... 2 tablespoons of food works for a chihuahua but not a shih tzu pup lah.... later stunted growth then susah loh.... Last time my shih tzu, I will give him a handful of kibbles.... let him eat till he full, then leftovers I take away.... so how many times your friend feed the pup?

Toilet training is simple.... for now, puppy doesn't know anything yet so of course pee and poo everywhere.... where did the puppy poo? What your friend should do is let the pup finish pee and poo before playing.... just place the puppy in the spot with newspaper, let it smell and sniff the newspaper and when it pees and poos, praise it like crazy and make it know that you are damn happy about it. Doing this a few times will let the puppy learn than whenever it do on newspaper, owner sure happy. Then the newspaper, no need to clean all.... Leave a piece that got some urine so that the smell can attract the pup to pee there. For me, the best place to train is grass.... coz dogs seems to know grass is for peeing hahah.... learns faster too but newspaper is the basic. Just keep on doing this positive training, and the pup will be able to master newspaper training in a week. The Golden Tip, keep repeating the method and praise pup like gila gila happy happy. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 14 2007, 09:01 AM)
Wahhh... so your friend is asking you to research for her but not doing it herself?

2 tablespoons of food is not enough for a puppy if fed twice a day.... if she feeds 3 or 4 times a day then yah, it is ok. As said before, petshops have limited knowledge sometimes.... 2 tablespoons of food works for a chihuahua but not a shih tzu pup lah.... later stunted growth then susah loh.... Last time my shih tzu, I will give him a handful of kibbles.... let him eat till he full, then leftovers I take away.... so how many times your friend feed the pup?

Toilet training is simple.... for now, puppy doesn't know anything yet so of course pee and poo everywhere.... where did the puppy poo? What your friend should do is let the pup finish pee and poo before playing.... just place the puppy in the spot with newspaper, let it smell and sniff the newspaper and when it pees and poos, praise it like crazy and make it know that you are damn happy about it. Doing this a few times will let the puppy learn than whenever it do on newspaper, owner sure happy. Then the newspaper, no need to clean all.... Leave a piece that got some urine so that the smell can attract the pup to pee there. For me, the best place to train is grass.... coz dogs seems to know grass is for peeing hahah.... learns faster too but newspaper is the basic. Just keep on doing this positive training, and the pup will be able to master newspaper training in a week. The Golden Tip, keep repeating the method and praise pup like gila gila happy happy. tongue.gif
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oh...must praise.....not that my fren din find info, is she dunno whom to ask......Since I love dogs too, so i help loh.......
She is now keeping the puppy in a cage during her working hours. SHe fed the puppy twice, morning and evening. The puppy pee and poo in the cage. But now she said she fed the puppy morning, the carry it to the newspaper, wait for it to poo then only kept it back in the cage, then go to work.
When return from work, feed again, carry to newspaper, wait for poo, then carry back to cage.
After dinner (the owner lah...), let the puppy out, play, roam free, play until puppy tired, keep back in cage, then sleep..........
BTW, she stay in a condo.......

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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Mar 13 2007, 08:45 PM)
juz some advice.. keeping a dog is a long time commitment. so buy only if u really/badly wanted one. dun wan dogs end up in SPCA later.  biggrin.gif

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yeah saw lots of dog at SPCA now . pity of them . always bear in mind , keeping a dog is our responsibility to take care them .
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new shih tzu owner here.....
less than 1 week. 2 month old shih tzu......
Y mostly the puppy sold are 2 months old geh??
i fed her twice per day, morning 7am, evening 7pm.
Every morning, i no need to tune my alarm clock, automatically she will bark bark bark, wake me up lah.....not late to work, haha.......tired now....
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Congratulations on your purchase.

Most puppies are sold at 2 months old because it is a 'suitable' time for it to be separated from its mother. Puppies should stay with their mom until 8 weeks old for milk, love, etc.

I think you should feed your dog more. Try going 3 meals a day for 3 months more before cutting down to 2 meals a day when he's 5 /6 months old.
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When i go home, she will bark....
take her out from the cage, pat her, then will diam diam....
She loves it when i rub her stomach.
How to deal with the barking problem, meaning sometimes when i dun wan her to bark, she'll be quiet. Can be trained at this young age??
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Yes, everything can be trained at young age even though some might say start only after 4 months.

He is excited to see you, thus barking is a way to greet you "Welcome home, I missed you!" From what I have heard from ppl who has own dogs for many years more than I ever did, dogs build up gas within them so barking is part of their life, something they do (humans and cats dont bark, do they?) For dogs who seldom bark, they usually pass gas (kentut) very smelly...

Yes, all dogs love tummy rub. You can judge his comfortableness with tummy rub. Does he turn around and expose his tummy to you for rubbing? If so, then your dog is very comfy with you and the environment.

When you take the dog out from cage, always hold it for a while - I read this soemwhere, its so calm the dog down, slow his heart beat. Dont let it come out like a mad dog - bad habit.


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Yes, everything can be trained at young age even though some might say start only after 4 months.

He is excited to see you, thus barking is a way to greet you "Welcome home, I missed you!" From what I have heard from ppl who has own dogs for many years more than I ever did, dogs build up gas within them so barking is part of their life, something they do (humans and cats dont bark, do they?) For dogs who seldom bark, they usually pass gas (kentut) very smelly...

Yes, all dogs love tummy rub. You can judge his comfortableness with tummy rub. Does he turn around and expose his tummy to you for rubbing? If so, then your dog is very comfy with you and the environment.

When you take the dog out from cage, always hold it for a while - I read this soemwhere, its so calm the dog down, slow his heart beat. Dont let it come out like a mad dog - bad habit.
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IMHO, When your dog barks, it is not advisable to carry him out immediately. In future, your dog will think that, by barking you will allow him/her to be released from the cage.
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IMHO, When your dog barks, it is not advisable to carry him out immediately. In future, your dog will think that, by barking you will allow him/her to be released from the cage.
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haha when my dog first came to my house, she was as timid as a mouse. and so GOOD GIRL. But after a few days she began to run here and there.


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yeah .. when my doggy cry .. i wont go and take her out , i just ignore her , then she will sleep/rest when she's tired because she know no one is coming for her haha..
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Ya I do the same too. Or I will use a rolled up newspaper to smack her nose. Which makes her uncomfortable. That's how I train her to keep quiet. I couldn't risk having her barking out loud cause I'm staying in acondo.


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LOL u smack her nose ? not afraid that she might die ? dog's nose very sensitive and important ah , don smack her nose la.. smack her butt a biggrin.gif Wah u stay in condo still rear dog ah .. ur neighbour didnt complain ah ?
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unfortunately my neighbour is a malay. i wrote a note to him telling him that I'm helping a friend to take care of the dog. If there's any barking when I'm not around please tell me lo. Anyway so far my dog did not make any noise. I'm gonna shift end of this year hopefully nothing bad will happens.

As for the nose, I learned from a breeder. I hit very softly only. Not like hit till berdarah, LOL I will not forgive myself man.
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Oh then ur neighbour quite a good guy la , mostly Malay doesn't like dog .

Hmm i think i hit my Shandy's nose , she sure bark at me LOL..
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haha what breed is your dog ya?

Mind you, I really spoiled Germaine. Too pampered which cause her to be like this. The other day we went to Ikano's Pet Safari, to meet up with my friend's silky. Wa, first time see Comet (my friend's male silky) she barked so loud, and growl at him as if wanna bite his nose off. Just don't now what's wrong with her. Likes to whine when I don't give her something. I guess it's time to teach her a lesson lo. Have to be strict with her.
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Oh then ur neighbour quite a good guy la , mostly Malay doesn't like dog .

Hmm i think i hit my Shandy's nose , she sure bark at me LOL..
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my friend tell me some body pass by her shop , will look at her dog and say '' very cute ''
and some malay really eager to own a dog . but pity their religion make them cant own a dog .
sumtimes i went 1u pet wonderland , and malay even say dog really '' comel ''

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ya the other day i went to ikano, a cute malay guy tried to sayang my dog. then his gf tarik him away LOL
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ya the other day i went to ikano, a cute malay guy tried to sayang my dog. then his gf tarik him away LOL
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QUOTE(babymiki @ Mar 18 2007, 01:29 AM)
haha what breed is your dog ya?

Mind you, I really spoiled Germaine. Too pampered which cause her to be like this. The other day we went to Ikano's Pet Safari, to meet up with my friend's silky. Wa, first time see Comet (my friend's male silky) she barked so loud, and growl at him as if wanna bite his nose off. Just don't now what's wrong with her. Likes to whine when I don't give her something. I guess it's time to teach her a lesson lo. Have to be strict with her.
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ya i got bring my furkid to ikano also . then a malay girl even touch my furkid and ask many thing . my gf say perhpas she is not a malay . but is true , she and her friend is a modem malay . that's why i prefer modem malay thinking , cuz from what i noe their religion make them think that dog = '' syaitan '' >..< but now getting better , some of them no more hate dogs edi
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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 18 2007, 11:40 AM)
My doggy is PUG mix SPITZ biggrin.gif .. i last time got one dog also.. but i spoiled him , then he grow big already very very naughty , difficult to teach .. so now this new puppy i wanna teach lo.. if not later grow big already naughty again ..


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Yeah , last time in JB .. i know one pet shop , the vet in there is a Malay girl.. she love dog so much LOL.. i was so shocked when i saw that ..
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Mine last time very notty one.. simply bite those slippers , then u wanna leash him , he wont let u leash , somemore wanna bite back, will run here run there .. lol ..
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Mine last time very notty one.. simply bite those slippers , then u wanna  leash him , he wont let u leash , somemore wanna bite back, will run here run there .. lol ..
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hi, i heard that the kibbles for puppies need to soften by warm water before feeding them, but y is that?? Before that i just feed my shih tzu wif normal kibbles. When i try soften them last nice and fed her, she doesn't like to eat leh........
So is it necessary???

And i just bring my puppy for deworm last nite. The guy said that is better to deworm around 4 hours after meal. He just open my pup's mouth, then poke the tablet to her throat, then wala........so fast!!! So i'm wondering, if its a puppy, ok lah, easy, but when its an adult, teeth sharp.....If u do like that, fingers also putus wor....so how to feed them medicine? And how often should a puppy deworm? She will got her 2nd jad next week.

The other thing is, when i play wif her, she like crazy liao, run here and there, and like to bite ppl's toes and fingers, but since she's still young, not pain lah. When i slap her face lightly and said NO, she even crazy, bite again......Can stop it ah?? i scared she got used to it and bite ppl when she's grown up.

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hi,  i heard that the kibbles for puppies need to soften by warm water before feeding them, but y is that?? Before that i just feed my shih tzu wif normal kibbles. When i try soften them last nice and fed her, she doesn't like to eat leh........
So is it necessary???

And i just bring my puppy for deworm last nite. The guy said that is better to deworm around 4 hours after meal. He just open my pup's mouth, then poke the tablet to her throat, then wala........so fast!!! So i'm wondering, if its a puppy, ok lah, easy, but when its an adult, teeth sharp.....If u do like that, fingers also putus wor....so how to feed them medicine? And how often should a puppy deworm? She will got her 2nd jad next week.

The other thing is, when i play wif her, she like crazy liao, run here and there, and like to bite ppl's toes and fingers, but since she's still young, not pain lah. When i slap her face lightly and said NO, she even crazy, bite again......Can stop it ah?? i scared she got used to it and bite ppl when she's grown up.
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Added on March 19, 2007, 11:39 amErr guys , every time when i feed my pup , she will eat a bit only then don wan eat already.. why like that ah ? she whole day really eat a bit only leh.. she don wan to eat.. what should i do ?

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erm....feeding medicine to a grown up dog isn't too hard. u hafta do it. the vet can't do it anymore after she's grown up. if the owner push his/her finger into the throat, the dog will just respond to pushing ur finger out with her tongue. make sure u push deep, else the dog can somehow push the tablet back out. once its partially dissolved in saliva and its bitter, its gonna be hard to force her to open her mouth again.
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I bought a bout 7`8weeks old male shih tsu puppy 2 days ago.of course,i'm inexperience.
i keep him in my room,wif a cage,but most of the time i jz let her out in my room n balcony area.

1)he likes 2 bite wadever...especially my fingers n legs..sumtimes is quite painful...so i bought a pack of "mom chewy" value pack of little boon 4 him...but he like not really like,mayb wif his teeth stil not able 2 bite tat bone...but sumtimes he jz use his mouth 2 hold it laa...he also likes clothes as well..so how?any opinion?stil keep letting my fingers 2 suffer?

2)his pee n poo proble. got few timew,he pee n poo in my living room or housemate's room...so funny..mostly he wil pee n poo in 2 diff area in my room..so i left newspaper on tat 2 specific spot b4 i went 2 class tiz morning...but end up wif,he change his habit n pee n poo in another 2 diff area..ishh
ya,another funny things is last midnite,bout 5 sumthing,i sudd hear his crying pityly sound quite loud and awake me,so i quickly woke up n on de light,scared his noice wil awake my housemates...then after i open de cage door, he quickly cum out n go 2 de normal area,2 pee...but i rather him 2 pee in his cage,since i got a container n newspaper under it...tiz incident make me feel angry but also funny..haha..but really hav no idea 2 train him since,he likes 2 pee n poo in diff area sumtimes,n not on de newspaper tat i hav prepared,instead of biting de newspaper as well..so any opinion?

3)My doggie likes 2 stick wif me so much,he dun like 2 stay in his cage,he wil make weird sound n bark n also shake de cage door...so hav no option,end up wif i hav 2 clear his pee n poo outside his cage n also stop him frm biting my things n especially wire,so dangerous..another thing is he wil cry n bark like hell when i leave my room,if i dun allow him 2 accompany me...according 2 my housemates,he barked n shouted 4 quite a long time after i left my house 4 meal...even i went 2 toilet or bath...how lehh?i'm a university student,hav 2 leave my house few times a day...lock him in cage he wil make noice,let him play around in my room alone,he also wil make noice..so any opinion?or method?

4)do u guys clean ur dogs' "ass hole" after they poo?

5)sumtimes when v dun allow him 2 do sumthing or wad,he wil jump bite ppl like mad,sudd so aggresive (luckily he is a shih tsu),how 2 calm him or stoop him?

5)how u guys punnish ur pets?got beat him?i did beat his backside tiz morning...but like not vry effective sumtimes....but also sympathy wif him..coz he likes 2 show his innocent face..haha

hope all pros here can answer or giv opinion 2 me...
hope me n my doggis happy always...thx ya



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my shih tzu(female) likes to bite me when she is small
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1st advice:
shih zhu cons is cannot live alone..never ever leave ur shih tzu alone for very long time in dark place.mine died because of that when try to come out of cage,head got stucked.we left her in her cage.my stupid maid lock the door and off the light.after 2 hours found her dead.god bless her soul.very sad
2nd advice:scould ur dog whenever bite ur finger.squeeze behind her neck like cat does for kitten to show u mean serious...spray the special solution to indicate to the dog where not to pee or poo
3rd advice: when she pees /poo at the correct place,praise her and give her treats ( this takes paitence)
4th advice: groomers did mention need suqeeze backside of shih tzu to make sure all is clear..eheheh but i dont do that.but commen sense if u see piece shit still stuck there,clean with warm wet cloth
5th advice: ur dog jumping wants to play with u.biting is also playing..firmly say no and beat her backside...

good luck

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omg..pity the dog
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i have difficulty in stucking the tablet into my dog's throat too she keep struggling man
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my shih tzu also same... for the first 1 month.. everynite i have to sleep next to her.. and when i go work.. she will make a menace around the house.. that is quite understanable coz her teeth is itchy .. like a newborn baby.. but after she shed her new teeth.. it will be less and less..

if u wan to train her.. beating sometimes dont work.. i recommend using positive reward..

u can tell when she is about to pee and poo...
when she does that.. carry her to one spot only
after she did her business.. reward her with cookie from eukanuba.. most dogs wont be able to resist it..

until she learn where and exactly when to pee or poo...
after u catch the timing .. most of ur problem soft..

second.. leave her in cage when u wanna go out.. initially she will yip and bark like crazy.. so u have to have a solid heart...

or else u house will turn up side down.. i stay by myself its still ok..
but i assume ur housemate doesnt like the idea of ur dog pising around his/her place.. no matter how much a dog lover is also the same..

my last time experience : my shih tzu go chew around wood base furtinure leg..
and all my favourite cd... my shoes .. my socks.. practically everything..

u might wan to consider a large cage maybe meant for rotwiller.. but be careful of the cage gap where ur shih tzu step.. i had a friend the shih tzu leg got stuck and now the leg like walking akward.. so put a plastic netting on top or buy the blue plastic like what the petshop ppl use.. shih tzu is the kind of dog need attention and care... and they are quickly adapt to new teaching.. but u must also Know let the shih tzu knOw when u r playing with her or when u r serious or angry..

good luck with ur training smile.gif btw.. shih tzu can learn how to open the cage by themselves.. so becareful on that... when u say u stay in balcony i assume u live in flats or condo.. malaysia law dont allow pets in that kind of spaces.. u better be careful not to let ur shih tzu bark or yip too much.. one call to spca and bye bye to ur shih tzu. last reminder.. had a friend who siberian husky fell from 8th floor via the balcony grill gap.. so u know whats best for ur lovely dog..
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yaya my dog cannot resist any type of treats one. very "wai sik". people can easily kidnap her away. lol

my dog use to like biting blankets, my leg when im sleeping, etc i just say NO and then give her her toy, if she plays with it, i reward her
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QUOTE(shittzu @ Mar 19 2007, 09:10 AM)
hi,  i heard that the kibbles for puppies need to soften by warm water before feeding them, but y is that?? Before that i just feed my shih tzu wif normal kibbles. When i try soften them last nice and fed her, she doesn't like to eat leh........
So is it necessary???

And i just bring my puppy for deworm last nite. The guy said that is better to deworm around 4 hours after meal. He just open my pup's mouth, then poke the tablet to her throat, then wala........so fast!!! So i'm wondering, if its a puppy, ok lah, easy, but when its an adult, teeth sharp.....If u do like that, fingers also putus wor....so how to feed them medicine? And how often should a puppy deworm? She will got her 2nd jad next week.

The other thing is, when i play wif her, she like crazy liao, run here and there, and like to bite ppl's toes and fingers, but since she's still young, not pain lah. When i slap her face lightly and said NO, she even crazy, bite again......Can stop it ah?? i scared she got used to it and bite ppl when she's grown up.
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Soaking kibbles in water is when the puppy got problem to eat hard food. So if your puppy can eat the kibbles with no problem then no need soak lah.

Finger won't putus. You must not show you are scared of the puppy. If you show you are scared, it will never listen to you and will bully you when it is older. You must be stern. Deworming should not be done often.... actually, once your pup finish all the vaccination and can take heart worm prevention medicine then no need deworming tablet. Heart Worm Prevention tablet is called Heart Guard, it is given monthly. Normally give puppy when they around 4 to 5 months old....

Do not slap your dog. The thing is, in dog body language, if you slap the dog during play, means you want to play more. What you should be doing is when she start to bite or be naughty during play, you say NO and move away. Do not play with her till she calm down. If she calms down, then only play with her. If she likes to bite fingers and toes, then what you can do is a trick. Buy a dog repellent herbal spray. It taste bitter. You spray on your hands and toes. Let her bite and taste it. Soon she will think that hands and feet are bad taste.


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There is a special syringe for feeding tablets. First, fill the syringe with water. At the mouth of the syringe got a clip to put the tablet. Then place the syringe in the dog's mouth and squirt the water. The water will wash the tablet down the throat. You can find this syringe at Pet Safari payment counter, or Ptaling street pet shop.

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in my opinion shih tzu are one of the gullible dogs around;p very greedy.do anything for food
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oh isit? wut about pyramid's pet shop? the one which is same as pet safari
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QUOTE(kimmie @ Mar 19 2007, 01:16 PM)
1st advice:
shih zhu cons is cannot live alone..never ever leave ur shih tzu alone for very long time in dark place.mine died because of that when try to come out of cage,head got stucked.we left her in her cage.my stupid maid lock the door and off the light.after 2 hours found her dead.god bless her soul.very sad

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cry.gif very sad , when u say ur shih tzu die because stay long time in a dark room , so sad.... very long time stay in a dark room very die one meh ...really pity ler cry.gif
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QUOTE(Digitral @ Mar 19 2007, 04:36 PM)
cry.gif  very sad , when u say ur shih tzu die because stay long time in a dark room , so sad.... very long time stay in a dark room very die one meh ...really pity ler  cry.gif
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we never leave her alone for long time without lights close.that day got lots of guest came over.and the maid forgotten got dog there and closed the doors and light...had a bad feeling halfway thru the meeting but noticed that the door locked.the maid clamly just said later la open...then i grab the keys and open only to find the horror..how come the head can stick out while the cage is still close...sigh
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QUOTE(kimmie @ Mar 19 2007, 01:16 PM)
1st advice:
shih zhu cons is cannot live alone..never ever leave ur shih tzu alone for very long time in dark place.mine died because of that when try to come out of cage,head got stucked.we left her in her cage.my stupid maid lock the door and off the light.after 2 hours found her dead.god bless her soul.very sad
2nd advice:scould ur dog whenever bite ur finger.squeeze behind her neck like cat does for kitten to show u mean serious...spray the special solution to indicate to the dog where not to pee or poo
3rd advice: when she pees /poo at the correct place,praise her and give her treats ( this takes paitence)
4th advice: groomers did mention need suqeeze backside of shih tzu to make sure all is clear..eheheh but i dont do that.but commen sense if u see piece shit still stuck there,clean with warm wet cloth
5th advice: ur dog jumping wants to play with u.biting is also playing..firmly say no and beat her backside...

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My doggy also will bite leh.. when i beat her butt , she become more naughty , wanna fight back .. bark at me =.= ..
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Errr , my puppy eat a bit only leh.. what to do ah ? the whole day she can just eat a bit only.. she doesn't want to eat.. always want to play only.. why ah..
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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 19 2007, 04:41 PM)
OMG ..  cry.gif poor doggy ... my her soul R.I.P ..

My doggy also will bite leh.. when i beat her butt , she become more naughty , wanna fight back .. bark at me =.= ..
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u all should c the meat chunk in a bottle from pedigree..
every weekend i go giant do grocery shoping.. i sure buy one tin back..
she can actually finish the whole tin in one go..
and still lick the bowl dam clean.. until i cant find the oil stain..
no need to clean and worry bout the ants...
ppl normally feed their shih tzu around 10-20 pcs of dog food..
i buy eukanuba small breed 3kg pack..
and i give her a chunk of it.. around triple the amount most ppl give..
twice a day.. haha and she is the fattest shih tzu i have ever seen..
hahaha.. also shIt a lot...


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I bought a bout 7`8weeks old male shih tsu puppy 2 days ago.of course,i'm inexperience.
i keep him in my room,wif a cage,but most of the time i jz let her out in my room n balcony area.

1)he likes 2 bite wadever...especially my fingers n legs..sumtimes is quite painful...so i bought a pack of "mom chewy" value pack of little boon 4 him...but he like not really like,mayb wif his teeth stil not able 2 bite tat bone...but sumtimes he jz use his mouth 2 hold it laa...he also likes clothes as well..so how?any opinion?stil keep letting my fingers 2 suffer?

Puppies play by biting. It is their body language by nature to bite and chew to play. 7 to 8 weeks old, your pup won't have interest in bone until it is 6 months old. So for now, if she likes cloth, then get her a soft toy or her own cloth to chew. If bite your fingers during play, then stop playing, say NO loudly and walk away. Ignore the puppy till it comes down.
2)his pee n poo proble. got few timew,he pee n poo in my living room or housemate's room...so funny..mostly he wil pee n poo in 2 diff area in my room..so i left newspaper on tat 2 specific spot b4 i went 2 class tiz morning...but end up wif,he change his habit n pee n poo in another 2 diff area..ishh
ya,another funny things is last midnite,bout 5 sumthing,i sudd hear his crying pityly sound quite loud and awake me,so i quickly woke up n on de light,scared his noice wil awake my housemates...then after i open de cage door, he quickly cum out n go 2 de normal area,2 pee...but i rather him 2 pee in his cage,since i got a container n newspaper under it...tiz incident make me feel angry but also funny..haha..but really hav no idea 2 train him since,he likes 2 pee n poo in diff area sumtimes,n not on de newspaper tat i hav prepared,instead of biting de newspaper as well..so any opinion?

You just got 2 days, where lah can a pup learn where to pee and poo so fast. Their brains and minds are young and learn slowly. Also, if you let it sleep in the cage and expect it to poo and pee in the cage, you are making the puppy confuse. By nature, dogs will never pee and poo on their sleeping place or their favourite place to eat and sleep. If you need something to help with the pee and poo, get those puppy training liquid or cloth.... Someone in Garage sales selling it anyway.
3)My doggie likes 2 stick wif me so much,he dun like 2 stay in his cage,he wil make weird sound n bark n also shake de cage door...so hav no option,end up wif i hav 2 clear his pee n poo outside his cage n also stop him frm biting my things n especially wire,so dangerous..another thing is he wil cry n bark like hell when i leave my room,if i dun allow him 2 accompany me...according 2 my housemates,he barked n shouted 4 quite a long time after i left my house 4 meal...even i went 2 toilet or bath...how lehh?i'm a university student,hav 2 leave my house few times a day...lock him in cage he wil make noice,let him play around in my room alone,he also wil make noice..so any opinion?or method?

You need to let your puppy be independent. Tell your housemates that you need to let the puppy bark a bit. The key here is ignore. Shih tzus like to follow people everywhere but you must train it to be independent. You must buy a cage with suitable bar gap. Normally must be less than 1 inch and big enough to fit a large dog. Let the pup bark, it will soon learn that barking is nothing to bring you back. Here is a method to train.
Put the puppy in the cage, then you walk out of the room. If it barks, ignore, when the puppy become quiet, then only walk into the room and give the puppy a treat. If you do this many many times, the puppy will learn that being noisy, owner won't come, being quiet, owner will give treat. Now the puppy knows one thing, when ever it barks, you or maybe your housemate will go and look at him or hold him... this already make the puppy think that bark means someone will come for him.

If you bought those cheap cages, very dangerous. The bar must be half inch. Those cheap cages bar is 1 inch... very easy for puppy to get hurt. Spend some money to invest in a Crate. Petshops like Pet Safari and pets wonderland got sell... more expensive but very very safe. Another kind of cage is stainless steel cage, pet family has it and it is also a bit expensive. Cheap things are not always good.


4)do u guys clean ur dogs' "ass hole" after they poo?

Check for poo... if got things stuck then clean... if nothing then there is no need.

5)sumtimes when v dun allow him 2 do sumthing or wad,he wil jump bite ppl like mad,sudd so aggresive (luckily he is a shih tsu),how 2 calm him or stoop him?

Ignore him. Just shout No and walk away..... do not layan the pup. Just ignore.

5)how u guys punnish ur pets?got beat him?i did beat his backside tiz morning...but like not vry effective sumtimes....but also sympathy wif him..coz he likes 2 show his innocent face..haha

Beat is not good. If the pup thinks it is painful, it will be damn scared of you and won't trust you. If it thinks it is play, then it will just be stubborn and naughty forever. Always do positive training. If it is naughty, push him away and say No and ignore him or lock in cage for a time out. If he is good boy, praise him like crazy and play with him.

Actually, this thread is very similar to many threads and I think I have answered this so many times already.... thread will be merged.

hope all pros here can answer or giv opinion 2 me...
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QUOTE(kimmie @ Mar 19 2007, 04:46 PM)
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lol ya.. but what can i do ? whack her harder ? the only way i can do is ignore her.. haha..
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QUOTE(kimmie @ Mar 19 2007, 04:40 PM)
we never leave her alone for long time without lights close.that day got lots of guest came over.and the maid forgotten got dog there and closed the doors and light...had a bad feeling halfway thru the meeting but noticed that the door locked.the maid clamly just said later la open...then i grab the keys and open only to find the horror..how come the head can stick out while the cage is still close...sigh
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kimmie , im so sad when i hear what have happen to your shih tzu . sigh , may ur shih tzu rest in peace too . honestly , is really sad when i hear your story of ur beloved shih tzu . cry.gif then ur maid surely will shocked when ur maid saw ur furkid die already cry.gif

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oh, many ppl own a shih tzu wor............I think becoz the price is cheaper. But the thing is its quite stubborn, needs more patience to be trained. Like my frens shih tzu, noti loh....but stil young lah, can be trained.
That day i go to the Tmn Megah Pet Shop (4got wat name), i see a yorkshire terrier, very very cute!!! The sales asst there told me that this type of breed are very intelligent and less yappy than a shih tzu. and can be easily trained, is it true?? Since its a terrier, will it suitable to be kept indoor? is it a hyperactive dog like JRT?
But the price is RM2k+ lah......too much for me for now........
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Mar 20 2007, 09:00 AM)
oh, many ppl own a shih tzu wor............I think becoz the price is cheaper. But the thing is its quite stubborn, needs more patience to be trained. Like my frens shih tzu, noti loh....but stil young lah, can be trained.
That day i go to the Tmn Megah Pet Shop (4got wat name), i see a yorkshire terrier, very very cute!!! The sales asst there told me that this type of breed are very intelligent and less yappy than a shih tzu. and can be easily trained, is it true?? Since its a terrier, will it suitable to be kept indoor? is it a hyperactive dog like JRT?
But the price is RM2k+ lah......too much for me for now........
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yorkshire terrier is very xpensive wan .
but yorkshire breed is more friendly , self confident , and vocal . although yorkshire is a terrier , but one of my neighbour own a yorkshire terrier too , is a very quiet dog . and not a hyperactive dog . she told me that she bought her yorkshire around rm 3K + . so you plan to buy a yorkshire terrier soon ? but the way their maintainance to take care is quite high , because their coat is glossy , silky . so have to take care their fur very very gentle.


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QUOTE(Digitral @ Mar 20 2007, 12:54 AM)
kimmie , im so sad when i hear what have happen to your shih tzu . sigh , may ur shih tzu rest in peace too . honestly , is really sad when i hear your story of ur beloved shih tzu .  cry.gif  then ur maid surely will shocked when ur maid saw ur furkid die already  cry.gif
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ya she cried also refuse to let the dog go...we had to burry the dog the same day...
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QUOTE(kimmie @ Mar 20 2007, 12:30 PM)
ya she cried also refuse to let the dog go...we had to burry the dog the same day...
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I just got back home a puppy, he is a mixed breed of poodle n shitsu(I'm not sure how to spell...lol)....white colour...

He is very cute n very adorable, but I really have no idea how to teach him to pee on the specified area, such as newspaper, he WAS a very good dog, he always pee on the newspaper, but 2-3 days after, he begin to forget to pee on the newspaper, then i warn him n shout at him, after that, he pee on the newspaper again, very good dog...ok...the most headache thing has just begun, he pee on the floor again!!!!! he is very cute, I really don't want to beat him, but this time, I have no idea but just to beat him, ok, things change better....and then after a period, he pee on the floor again!!!!!!! rclxub.gif What the hell is he doing, I feel that he purposely do that...

What can I do? I really don't want to beat him, He will cry...I can c his tears....
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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Mar 23 2007, 08:28 PM)
I just got back home a puppy, he is a mixed breed of poodle n shitsu(I'm not sure how to spell...lol)....white colour...

He is very cute n very adorable, but I really have no idea how to teach him to pee on the specified area, such as newspaper, he WAS a very good dog, he always pee on the newspaper, but 2-3 days after, he begin to forget to pee on the newspaper, then i warn him n shout at him, after that, he pee on the newspaper again, very good dog...ok...the most headache thing has just begun, he pee on the floor again!!!!! he is very cute, I really don't want to beat him, but this time, I have no idea but just to beat him, ok, things change better....and then after a period, he pee on the floor again!!!!!!!  rclxub.gif What the hell is he doing, I feel that he purposely do that...

What can I do? I really don't want to beat him, He will cry...I can c his tears....
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Firstly, your teaching method is wrong. Your puppy will learn faster & happier by praising them, when they pee at the right spot, make sure you praise them a looo000OOOt!!! Or perhaps u can give him treats. Dogs love to do what their owners like them to do, they love to be praised, so if you beat your pup when he pee, he will only think that it is wrong to pee in front of you, so he will wait u r not there & pee. Since he doesnt understand human language, u need to show him what you like by praising.

Secondly, you said you just bring the pup back & the fact that it is just still a pup, he needs time to get use to the environment, & since he is a pup, he cant hold the bladder for long, so you must accept accidents do happen.

To me, your pup considered achieve great achievements already, so fast already understand where to pee, but remember for a pup understand is real smart already, if they miss sometimes, you should forgive them.
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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Mar 23 2007, 08:28 PM)
I just got back home a puppy, he is a mixed breed of poodle n shitsu(I'm not sure how to spell...lol)....white colour...

He is very cute n very adorable, but I really have no idea how to teach him to pee on the specified area, such as newspaper, he WAS a very good dog, he always pee on the newspaper, but 2-3 days after, he begin to forget to pee on the newspaper, then i warn him n shout at him, after that, he pee on the newspaper again, very good dog...ok...the most headache thing has just begun, he pee on the floor again!!!!! he is very cute, I really don't want to beat him, but this time, I have no idea but just to beat him, ok, things change better....and then after a period, he pee on the floor again!!!!!!!  rclxub.gif What the hell is he doing, I feel that he purposely do that...

What can I do? I really don't want to beat him, He will cry...I can c his tears....
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hmm , actually ur furkid is a fast learner edi lor , dun angry ur furkid ya ^^
well , if u no time to train ur furkid , u may consider to buy a wee wee pad to train ur furkid . is economy , clean , cheap and easy btw . white palace do consider those dog and owner and found that a wee wee pad is more economy !

here is the link :
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=424775

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QUOTE(White Palace @ Mar 23 2007, 08:38 PM)
Firstly, your teaching method is wrong. Your puppy will learn faster & happier by praising them, when they pee at the right spot, make sure you praise them a looo000OOOt!!! Or perhaps u can give him treats. Dogs love to do what their owners like them to do, they love to be praised, so if you beat your pup when he pee, he will only think that it is wrong to pee in front of you, so he will wait u r not there & pee. Since he doesnt understand human language, u need to show him what you like by praising.

Secondly, you said you just bring the pup back & the fact that it is just still a pup, he needs time to get use to the environment, & since he is a pup, he cant hold the bladder for long, so you must accept accidents do happen.

To me, your pup considered achieve great achievements already, so fast already understand where to pee, but remember for a pup understand is real smart already, if they miss sometimes, you should forgive them.
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Er...not really just got it back, ad got it for 1.5 months, lol...
I did praise him by giving him dog food immidieatly, yes he listen, but he will pee on the floor another day... -.-"
So headache ar, he is a "water tong" (sui tong in cantonese), he loves drinking water, he can pee more than 10 times a day...-.-" rclxub.gif
Any special treats to praise him? -.-" Wat he os likes to eat 1, paper, orange skin, bread -.-", he is not hungry, but just loves to eat....-.-"

U c how cute is him...really feel hurt to beat him....

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ur furkid is co cute . still so young , have to take lots of time to train ya . nod.gif

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For some reason this could make a very nice sticky. Just modify some posts to have it more informative and Voila!
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dogs have short term memories. u have to keep reminding him. just like u teach ur dog tricks, u have to keep practising.
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Regarding deworming....
I read that puppies need to be deworm every 3 months rite?
Regarding heartworms, not quite understand.....
Info says that a blood test need to be done on puppies after 6 months old, to check whether they r infected wif heart worms, coz the heart worm will take around 6 months to be full grown.
HeartGuard cannot be taken by dogs which r infected wif heart worms.
Heartguard can only kill young heartworms, not adult. Heartguard should be taken after the 3rd jab, this time the puppy will be around 4months old rite?? so can take heartguard or not??
need to do blood test??
Since the heartworm need around 6 months to be matured, so a 4months old pup should not hv adult worms rite?? so Heartguard can kill the young worms rite?
If the pup is given Heartguard since 4months old, meaning chances for them to be infected is rather low rite??
And if Heartguard is taken, the normal deworming pill can be excluded rite??
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Regarding deworming....
I read that puppies need to be deworm every 3 months rite?
Regarding heartworms, not quite understand.....
Info says that a blood test need to be done on puppies after 6 months old, to check whether they r infected wif heart worms, coz the heart worm will take around 6 months to be full grown.
HeartGuard cannot be taken by dogs which r infected wif heart worms.
Heartguard can only kill young heartworms, not adult. Heartguard should be taken after the 3rd jab, this time the puppy will be around 4months old rite?? so can take heartguard or not??
need to do blood test??
Since the heartworm need around 6 months to be matured, so a 4months old pup should not hv adult worms rite?? so Heartguard can kill the young worms rite?
If the pup is given Heartguard since 4months old, meaning chances for them to be infected is rather low rite??
And if Heartguard is taken, the normal deworming pill can be excluded rite??
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If your pup is from a bad breeder or petshop, yes, you will have to test him for heart worm. Certain animal clinics got do heart test, takes about 2 days to get the results.

HeartGuard is a heart worm prevention drug. It needs to be eaten every month. Once a month. The active ingredients that are in HeartGuard not only kills heart worms but also tape worms and round worms and hook worms as well so you do not need to deworm your dog often. Yes, the normal deworming pill can be excluded. Dogs will get worms if they eat rubbish, old dogfood, dirty rotten food and unfresh meat.

Just do a blood test lah if you wanna make sure. No harm to it. Ask a vet for advice.

For the HeartGuard, best is to start the puppy after all vaccination. Normally I let my dogs start HeartGuard at 5 months old to be safe.
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yupyup. and becareful on vets which slaughter your money. i have read one before, after the vet drew blood from the pup, the dog went ill.
look for a trusted one.
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Draw blood till become ill? Maybe the vet reused needles...

Anyway, I sent my dog to Brickfield's vet for blood test before. My friend brought a german shepherd there too and had a heart worm test done before... but I forgot the price LOL....
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huah...after draw blood can get ill one ah??I think mayb the pup is scared gua......
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Any vet to recommend at Subang area ?
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Any vet to recommend at Subang area ?
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Yeah , better , these 2 problems now :

1.Diarrhea
2.She doesnt wants to eat the dog food, but she ate a piece of small biscuit which i gave her. I'm thinking of buying a new pack of dog food, maybe she don like this brand already ? but she's been eating it for 1 month .
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A dog will eat food when hungry. Any dogfood will do as long can fill the tummy. If you change dogfood, there is a chance diarrhea can continue since her digestive system is now unstable, introducing new foods may make her sick.

You still never say what brand you feed.

Also, feeding human food won't help. You will just spoil her.

Diarrhea is serious coz it can cause the body to dehydrate and become sick. If it doesn't drink water and take some glucose or minerals into the body, it can be dangerous especially puppies. If human got diarrhea and never get treated, severe dehydration will come about. This is why when we go to doctors, they give us rehydration salt for diarrhea cases.
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Ok i went to the Mayo vet just now , then the doctor check , everything fine, he gave me a bottle of medication ask me to feed until stop diarrhea.


then the main problem is my dog is choosy fellow =.= , she likes to eat those expensive food, the doctor give me a pack of sample Royal Canine food and she likes it.

Guess i gotta get one pack for her soon LOL .. 2kgs cost bout Rm 35~45 sweat.gif
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how many times u feed ur dog a day? free feeding style?

my dog was once choosy. i used to feed her california natural. until she did not eat for 3 days. i asked pet shop. the lady told me that maybe my dog doesnt like big biji kibbles. does dat makes sense? haha my style of feeding is, once i put the food down she doesn't eat i take it up. that's how i train her. now dat she's 1 and 1/2 yrs old, i only feed her once a day. she wollap everything in seconds.
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QUOTE(babymiki @ Mar 28 2007, 12:27 PM)
how many times u feed ur dog a day? free feeding style?

my dog was once choosy. i used to feed her california natural. until she did not eat for 3 days. i asked pet shop. the lady told me that maybe my dog doesnt like big biji kibbles. does dat makes sense? haha my style of feeding is, once i put the food down she doesn't eat i take it up. that's how i train her. now dat she's 1 and 1/2 yrs old, i only feed her once a day. she wollap everything in seconds.
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i see..how old is ur dog btw? lol
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Some dogs eat slow and some eat fast.... My dog eats 1 kibble each bite and chew before swallow but my bigger dogs can finish their bowl in minutes....

Well terrorist, at least your pup eat lah but once your pup eat royal canin, later other brands it won't eat.... what was the previous brand you use?

Babymiki, California Natural is so pure that memang not tasty.... hahaha.... but if no choice sure eat wan. My dog was like that. When 1st intro California, she eat only a bit once a day. Then we change to NutriEdge to get her to fatten up and gain appetite... then intro California back then now she eats California Natural twice a day till finish. I guess it is a habit. If we spoil our dogs with choice and treats, they sure won't eat their own food.

My dogs don't eat those dog treats but natural stuff like apples, pears, carrots and egg and cooked liver.



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wah i always spoil my dog with treats and chew bones lolz
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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 28 2007, 12:01 PM)
Ok i went to the Mayo vet just now , then the doctor check , everything fine, he gave me a bottle of medication ask me to feed until stop diarrhea.
then the main problem is my dog is choosy fellow =.= , she likes to eat those expensive food, the doctor give me a pack of sample Royal Canine food and she likes it.

Guess i gotta get one pack for her soon LOL .. 2kgs cost bout Rm 35~45 sweat.gif
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terrorist ,
that's good to hear that ur pretty pug getting better . well , give ur cute furkid a better food to eat lor . as long as u love her , i dun think you will feel 2kg for rm35-45 is xpensive right ? terrorist , i think u oso better edi , i think ur iguana and ur trantula feel u better than yesterday , i mean ur mood better now icon_rolleyes.gif

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terrorist ,
that's good to hear that ur pretty pug getting better . well , give ur cute furkid a better food to eat lor . as long as u love her , i dun think you will feel 2kg for rm35-45 is xpensive right ?  terrorist , i think u oso better edi , i think ur iguana and ur trantula feel u better than yesterday , i mean ur mood better now  icon_rolleyes.gif
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LOL .. actually rm40 , go yumcha or CC a while also gone d, myself i feed my puppy with better food as long as she happy biggrin.gif , now my mood really better d, hehehe..

I think all those pets i rear choosy one doh.gif , my dog don eat lousy food, and my iguana don eat not fresh vegetable too sweat.gif , the green vegie abit yellow already also it wont eat.. only eat pure green fresh vegie ..
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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 28 2007, 06:30 PM)
LOL .. actually rm40 , go yumcha or CC a while also gone d, myself i feed my puppy with better food as long as she happy biggrin.gif , now my mood really better d, hehehe..

I think all those pets i rear choosy one  doh.gif , my dog don eat lousy food, and my iguana don eat not fresh vegetable too  sweat.gif , the green vegie abit yellow already also it wont eat.. only eat pure green fresh vegie ..
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as long as u feel worth it and u happy to see ur furkid heathly then rm 40 u oso wont heart pain right .

hahahaha ..it mean ur iguana very Choosey oso on food la . Hahaha . even ur iguana wan nice taste brows.gif cool la ur iguana . yo , u no take ur iguana pic with ur pug huh , i wan see man .



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LOL , that's no way my iguana gonna take pic with my doggy , my iguana will only tail whip that fellow haha , that time i introduce my pup to the iguana, my iguana straight away opens its dewlap and ATTACKING mode ON ! lol ..
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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 28 2007, 07:02 PM)
LOL , that's no way my iguana gonna take pic with my doggy , my iguana will only tail whip that fellow haha , that time i introduce my pup to the iguana, my iguana straight away opens its dewlap and ATTACKING mode ON ! lol ..
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muahahahahha ... so fun ! hey u make me laugh la!!!! rclxm9.gif
wanna know how iguana on it attack mode huh ! hahaha
take more ur evil furkid pic here then , i wan see ... icon_rolleyes.gif

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LOL , ok i will take that her pic tomorrow, now night time d, my camera not good, need some help from sunlight biggrin.gif , but quite hard to take her pic also.. when i try to snap some shots, she come and kay poh kay poh and smell smell, see can play with the camera or not . laugh.gif
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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 28 2007, 07:25 PM)
LOL , ok i will take that her pic tomorrow, now night time d, my camera not good, need some help from sunlight biggrin.gif , but quite hard to take her pic also.. when i try to snap some shots, she come and kay poh kay poh and smell smell, see can play with the camera or not . laugh.gif
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sweat.gif so busy body wan meh ur pug LOL ...so fun la u got a dog with u right .
not like ur iguana and trantula so quiet there only LOL...

ok la , u take photos of ur furkid tml and show us la...see how it grow edi ...

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Yeah, dog can play with ya, Iguana wont play with ya, but it's cool to bring it out la LOL .. it will just like a stone on your shoulder and staring at people, tarantula most not fun 1, can only see =.= , i dare not handle it, i scare later i become spider man sweat.gif
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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 28 2007, 07:34 PM)
Yeah, dog can play with ya, Iguana wont play with ya, but it's cool to bring it out la LOL .. it will just like a stone on your shoulder and staring at people, tarantula most not fun 1, can only see =.= , i dare not handle it, i scare later i become spider man sweat.gif
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wah if i let trantula bite and can be spider man then good cuz i can climb on building mar , if bite me then die or get posion , then i dare not touch oso ...hahha , hey u always bring ur iguana go yum cha wan ar , sure many people look at u , they sure whisper '' wah this man so yao yeng huh , then u sure pai seh '' LOL

yeah dog is fun , that's why i love dog lor , can play with me , accompany me when i damn boring , and even sumtimes make me angry , i will forgive my furkid oso , cuz my lui lui will try a way to tum me back , is act cute to tum me back . shakehead.gif



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Hmm not every time bring my iguana out la, coz yumcha at night mah. so if i bring out, it will be sleeping on my shoulder also. it wont feel comfortable, so better let it sleep on it's cage, i remember got one time i bring go mamak, all the workers come and see, ask me real one or plastic one, then my iguana keep staring at them, so i ask them give me a few piece cucumber then i feed my iguana, then all the workers keep looking at me as well as those ppl near my table LOL.

Yeah, i boring at home mah, so keep a doggy to keep me accompany lo. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 28 2007, 09:23 PM)
Hmm not every time bring my iguana out la, coz yumcha at night mah. so if i bring out, it will be sleeping on my shoulder also. it wont feel comfortable, so better let it sleep on it's cage, i remember got one time i bring go mamak, all the workers come and see, ask me real one or plastic one, then my iguana keep staring at them, so i ask them give me a few piece cucumber then i feed my iguana, then all the workers keep looking at me as well as those ppl near my table LOL.

Yeah, i boring at home mah, so keep a doggy to keep me accompany lo. tongue.gif
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hahahhaha , yala if ur iguana on ur sholder , sure many ppl wan to see ... but very yao yeng right if bring iguana on ur shoulder LOL
yeah , dog is very good friend and just like a part of our family , can accompany us ... dunno la ..sumtimes i sad or dull , make lui lui will come and entertain me ... is very good to own a furkid . i bet u will feel it tat way too .
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Yeah. sometimes no one to talk to, can talk to doggy(sounds like a problematic person ?laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 28 2007, 10:38 PM)
Yeah. sometimes no one to talk to, can talk to doggy(sounds like a problematic person ?laugh.gif)
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no la , i oso comunicate with my lui lui oso . sumtimes u will feel ur furkid understand what u talking about wan , i think so la ..expression my lui lui know mine very well ...but is very normal to communicate with ur furkid . i do talk with my furkid oso .. then my lui lui wont tat boring mar , sumtimes if u sad , or stress u can tok to it oso although it dunno what u toking LOLLLL

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Think i have to let my puppy hungry few meal until she eat, damn naughty that fellow, yesterday let her try the sample pack food, she likes it, then today buy one big pack for her, she refuse to eat.. sleep.gif" ..
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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 29 2007, 03:03 PM)
Think i have to let my puppy hungry few meal until she eat, damn naughty that fellow, yesterday let her try the sample pack food, she likes it, then today buy one big pack for her, she refuse to eat.. sleep.gif" ..
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haha notty notty evil cutie huh .
let her know tat have to appreciate those nice dog food right icon_rolleyes.gif
well some furkid is like this wan , normally i feed my lui lui 2 meals in a day .
that's better .

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yeah.. naughty but then cute la LOL ..
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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 29 2007, 04:47 PM)
yeah.. naughty but then cute la LOL ..
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hahhahaha ...good then .
i bet ur pug getting better la .
terrorist no more worry edi .
eh , why ur avatar and everything is this girl pic . who is this girl ?

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QUOTE(Digitral @ Mar 30 2007, 09:25 AM)
hahhahaha ...good then .
i bet ur pug getting better la .
terrorist no more worry edi .
eh , why ur avatar and everything is this girl pic . who is this girl ?
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LOL... u're interested in the gal in da picture eh ROFLMAO laugh.gif
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IF I am working man, will be out of my house from 8am to 8pm. During that time, no one is at home. Is it advisable for me to get a puppy?
My MS is with my parents now, and probably in 2 more months i'll be working elsewhere. Really wants a doggie, but due to work, i don't think its a good idea huh?
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there won't be anyone at home? puppies need to be fed 2 to 3 times a day. how are you gonna feed the puppy since you are not at home most of the time? it's hard to even toilet train your dog.
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Mar 30 2007, 11:38 AM)
LOL... u're interested in the gal in da picture eh ROFLMAO  laugh.gif
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hahaha ...wondering why he put all this girl pic all sudden @@
hmm not very interested just ask who is the girl only LOL


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IF I am working man, will be out of my house from 8am to 8pm. During that time, no one is at home. Is it advisable for me to get a puppy?
My MS is with my parents now, and probably in 2 more months i'll be working elsewhere. Really wants a doggie, but due to work, i don't think its a good idea huh?
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if 8am till 8 pm ...hmmm is quite pity the dog alone at home with a cage lor . unless u noe how 2 manage it.

if u work , and u tired and suddenly u feel very very tired of taking care of dog . then is not a good idea edi . unless got people help ya . which is ur parents or ur gf


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QUOTE(babymiki @ Mar 30 2007, 12:02 PM)
there won't be anyone at home? puppies need to be fed 2 to 3 times a day. how are you gonna feed the puppy since you are not at home most of the time? it's hard to even toilet train your dog.
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7am feed once, 9pm feed once lo ... hmm.gif

QUOTE(Digitral @ Mar 30 2007, 12:18 PM)
hahaha ...wondering why he put all this girl pic all sudden @@
hmm not very interested just ask who is the girl only LOL


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if 8am till 8 pm ...hmmm is quite pity the dog alone at home with a cage lor . unless u noe how 2 manage it.

if u work , and u tired and suddenly u feel very very tired of taking care of dog . then is not a good idea edi . unless got people help ya . which is ur parents or ur gf
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I also pity my doggie, but i won't cage it .. My current MS sleeps with me/roam around the apartment freely.
My parents love the MS very much now, doubt they'll let me bring it with me when i leave my hometown for work.
If i gonna get a new puppy, prolly i buy a MS again ...

but then.... don't think that it is a good idea. Unless there is some constructive reply here on how to manage the dog while he/she is alone at home while i am out.. lol

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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Mar 30 2007, 12:52 PM)
7am feed once, 9pm feed once lo ...  hmm.gif
I also pity my doggie, but i won't cage it .. My current MS sleeps with me/roam around the apartment freely.
My parents love the MS very much now, doubt they'll let me bring it with me when i leave my hometown for work.
If i gonna get a new puppy, prolly i buy a MS again ...

but then.... don't think that it is a good idea. Unless there is some constructive reply here on how to manage the dog while he/she is alone at home while i am out.. lol
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if u normally wont cage it , then tat time u have to train it to ve independent 1st and then wont bite ur things when u let it free foam at room lo.

well if u let ur dog alone in so many hour , if u scare it alone and no friend , and dog do love friend actually , u can get a friend for the new ms too . well ... i got a ms too , and i love ms ^^ hehe ms very easy to train to me , but of cuz my gf spend a lot of time to take care and well train her . but then , u got a ms edi right ... so u think ur parent will not let u bring the ms go hometown with u alone ..?
hmm well is depend wan la , some people do wan a dog to accompany wan . so if u noe how 2 manage it , so far is acceptable .

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QUOTE(Digitral @ Mar 30 2007, 01:05 PM)
if u normally wont cage it , then tat time u have to train it to ve independent 1st and then wont bite ur things when u let it free foam at room lo.

well if u let ur dog alone in so many hour , if u scare it alone and no friend , and dog do love friend actually , u can get a friend for the new ms too . well ... i got a ms too , and i love ms ^^ hehe ms very easy to train to me , but of cuz my gf spend a lot of time to take care and well train her . but then , u got a ms edi right ... so u think ur parent will not let u bring the ms go hometown with u alone ..?
hmm well is depend wan la , some people do wan a dog to accompany wan . so if u noe how 2 manage it , so far is acceptable .
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Last time i don't like black coloured dog, but when my father bought the MS, i fall in love with her... lol. Too cute. My housemate who don't like dog also love my MS ....
So if i am going to get another puppy, i'll still look for MS smile.gif
Hmm... i think i'll think about this problem later la. After i get my job, see each month left how much money rclxub.gif rclxub.gif . Sekali not enough money to feed myself.. tongue.gif




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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Mar 30 2007, 01:14 PM)
Last time i don't like black coloured dog, but when my father bought the MS, i fall in love with her... lol. Too cute. My housemate who don't like dog also love my MS ....
So if i am going to get another puppy, i'll still look for MS smile.gif
Hmm... i think i'll think about this problem later la. After i get my job, see each month left how much money  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif . Sekali not enough money to feed myself..  tongue.gif
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ya , as long as u know how 2 arrange and manage the cash flow is not a problem for taking a puppy .
hahaha i love ms very much ...i dunno why , maybe i love the shape of a ms , and the colour is very nice , but my gf love many dog . actually last time i dun like dog , i get influence by my gf . my gf do love many type of breed .hahaha ya , like u say u oso get influence by ur father oso once ur father got the ms . haha.

anyway i know a breeder of ms and i buy from him too , if u wan his contact , just tell me ok ... his ms is very nice ...happy.gif


Added on March 30, 2007, 1:23 pmbut what i know now is he dun have ms currently , need to wait ill when im not tat sure . so ur father buy the ms from breeder or petshop ?

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From a petshop of a distant relative (his sister's [my aunt la] husband's sister's husband LOL tongue.gif)

How much u bought from your breeder?
I very low budget 1, if i buy myself, maximum also i can pay like RM600 only.. lol
Maybe i will search for a mixed breed MS. Saw some picture of mix breed MS , it looks cute.

** i love my MS because she is hyperactive, then know how to cute and kesian. Last time when she is around 3-4months old, she is damn naughty. Always bite stuff from dustbin or anywhere if we are not at home. So everytime i get home, she'll get scold and hit at the butt. After sometime, she become "scare". So when we reach home, she will slowly walk toward us and slowly "bow down" like she did something wrong... everytime we saw her like that we all laugh (but she still bite from the dustbin....)

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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Mar 30 2007, 03:17 PM)
From a petshop of a distant relative (his sister's [my aunt la] husband's sister's husband LOL tongue.gif)

How much u bought from your breeder?
I very low budget 1, if i buy myself, maximum also i can pay like RM600 only.. lol
Maybe i will search for a mixed breed MS. Saw some picture of mix breed MS , it looks cute.
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if low budget cannot lor.cuz is champion line . and i bought it quite reasonable price with mka but nvm le.
u can look for a ms with low budget too , as long as u got a pet with u and acompany u right .well my ss2 here a pet shop called summer pet shop sell ms mix for rm 700 @@ expensive right

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RM700 ... O.o

Well, petshop is like that 1 lo. At JB, shihtzu in pet shop is selling around RM1200-1500 ..
Bought my MS for RM1.1k, dunno got MKA cert or not .... but then to us the cert is not really important la.. even if our MS is mixed breed also nevermind biggrin.gif
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eh digitral MS noisy or not? im so so into MS but then i read some ppl's MS can get pretty yappy. haha


Added on March 30, 2007, 3:34 pmeh ed0gawa i have an idea..buy one MS I babysit for u =P

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 13 2007, 09:31 AM)
Use a leash to leash up your pup, then call it to come and pull the leash gently to bring the pup to you. Do this with treats and praises. Then once come is mastered, you can move on to more commands...
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hi.. just notice this thread around and would appreciate some pointers.

a friend just got a shih tzu... she's really cute and fun to be with but hate a leash. whenever we put her on a leash for a walk or poo poo she just refuse to budge even if the master calls to her gently... and if we try to tug then... a tug of war will erupt!! please advise. it would really help a lot if we could bring her out for a walk on the leash because scared if she simply round around.
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what kinda leash are u using? was it too tight when u put it on her the first time? made her felt uneasy?
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QUOTE(babymiki @ Mar 30 2007, 03:37 PM)
what kinda leash are u using? was it too tight when u put it on her the first time? made her felt uneasy?
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she already got a collar on her... so the leash is just connecting clip to the collar (it's a set). she's ok with the collar.. but hate the leash sad.gif
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hmm i dunno then. does ur dog gets excited when u bring her out for walks?
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QUOTE(babymiki @ Mar 30 2007, 03:43 PM)
hmm i dunno then. does ur dog gets excited when u bring her out for walks?
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next time try to show her that going kai kai means have to wear leash. my dog used to hate it. she bit off the leash's bell. but now i say kai kai, she straight come to me and let me put the leash on her lolz
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normally how old do u guys train ur puppy to be on collar, on leash or on harness??
For ex: a shih tzu is suitable for leash or harness??
Since they r long fur, will the colar got tangle to their fur??
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Mar 30 2007, 04:23 PM)
normally how old do u guys train ur puppy to be on collar, on leash or on harness??
For ex: a shih tzu is suitable for leash or harness??
Since they r long fur, will the colar got tangle to their fur??
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Just wear the collar on ur puppy la.. it will get used to it la, same goes to leash, now my puppy still not used to leash, every time i leash it, it will bite the chain lol.


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hahhahaha ...good then .
i bet ur pug getting better la .
terrorist no more worry edi .
eh , why ur avatar and everything is this girl pic . who is this girl ?
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Yea it is back to normal now biggrin.gif


LOL .. that girl ah... dont tell u.. secret rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(babymiki @ Mar 30 2007, 03:33 PM)
eh digitral MS noisy or not? im so so into MS but then i read some ppl's MS can get pretty yappy. haha


Added on March 30, 2007, 3:34 pmeh ed0gawa i have an idea..buy one MS I babysit for u =P
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MS will be noisy if it lacks of "Action"
I saw it from crazymouse's post... They need exercise etc, or else they will back ..

Actually my MS WAS VERY QUIET. She don't simply bark when she stayed with me at Nilai. After i brought her back to JB ... my dad taught her how to bark.
ARGHHHHHHHHHH.... now she bark for nothing.... sometimes when she saw me she will bark at me..

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QUOTE(babymiki @ Mar 30 2007, 04:00 PM)
next time try to show her that going kai kai means have to wear leash. my dog used to hate it. she bit off the leash's bell. but now i say kai kai, she straight come to me and let me put the leash on her lolz
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Just wear the collar on ur puppy la.. it will get used to it la, same goes to leash, now my puppy still not used to leash, every time i leash it, it will bite the chain lol.
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ARGHHHHHHHHHH.... now she bark for nothing.... sometimes when she saw me she will bark at me..
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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Mar 30 2007, 06:01 PM)
MS will be noisy if it lacks of "Action"
I saw it from crazymouse's post... They need  exercise etc, or else they will back ..

Actually my MS WAS VERY QUIET. She don't simply bark when she stayed with me at Nilai. After i brought her back to JB ... my dad taught her how to bark.
ARGHHHHHHHHHH.... now she bark for nothing.... sometimes when she saw me she will bark at me..

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QUOTE(terrorist @ Mar 30 2007, 05:16 PM)
Just wear the collar on ur puppy la.. it will get used to it la, same goes to leash, now my puppy still not used to leash, every time i leash it, it will bite the chain lol.


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Yea it is back to normal now biggrin.gif
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omg , tell me oso cannot meh . saw ur iguana avatar become all girl edi ...omg, who tat girl la , ur dream girl ar LOL

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well , Ms characterlistic : through net , u will see they do love to bark , well if train them and control them not to bark , they will control it wan . but Ms is a very alert dog too , saw stranger then will bark . natural reaction , but if u train it not to bark , it will stop . but if i bring my lu lui out go kai kai , she will not bark at stranger wan .

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well , i dun think ms will be suitable for condo , unless train it not to simply bark lor . if not scare later neighbour dun like . recommend furkid for condo is maltese , poodle , yorkshire , and etc . depend on their characteristic and sizes . well terrier perhpas might be hyperactive but if well train will behave wan thumbup.gif

rourou ,
maybe bring ur dog offen , then ur furkid will love to go for walk . then it will not bother the leash which is bothering him when go for a walk .

edogawa : well , mka or not mka is not tat important ,
as long as u love ur dog and u will not care what breed is it oso right .
buy a dog is just have to careful what breed and worth for this price or not only .
like what i say if a schnanuzer mix selling for rm 700 is too much la .
well , i saw people put schnanuzer put for adoption at this lowyat.net before , but adopted edi , well hope u can find a schnanuzer mix or buy a schnanuzer with ur budget then . and if can share ur schnanuzer pic which is with ur parent now .




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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Mar 30 2007, 03:24 PM)
RM700 ... O.o

Well, petshop is like that 1 lo. At JB, shihtzu in pet shop is selling around RM1200-1500 ..
Bought my MS for RM1.1k, dunno got MKA cert or not .... but then to us the cert is not really important la.. even if our MS is mixed breed also nevermind biggrin.gif
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He he he, she's a actress lah smile.gif . dman hot right biggrin.gif and yeah my dream girl she is rclxm9.gif


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Dude , u from JB ah? i last time from JB also.. next time wanna get what dog tell me, my fren selling dog at JB , i get help u get  biggrin.gif
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Added on March 30, 2007, 9:27 pmya edogawa from jb , he love ms ..
hmm u help him and ask ur frenz got sell ms with low budget around rm 600 ? or got sell schnanuzer mix ???

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hmm ok, will check out with ma fren.
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hmm ok, will check out with ma fren.
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i asked my friend, he say around Rm 800 for a MS .
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Guys, my pup is very active, he likes to bites on everything he sees, from shoes to furnitures even when i bought him some toys to bite on he'll tend 2 get bored on those toys and find some new stuff 2 bite sweat.gif
Currently i ignore wad his doing and let him do until he's tired and go asleep. Is this ok? I mean let him bite on things will it injured his jaw or teeth?
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QUOTE(Cloudx @ Mar 31 2007, 02:23 PM)
Guys, my pup is very active, he likes to bites on everything he sees, from shoes to furnitures even when i bought him some toys to bite on he'll tend 2 get bored on those toys and find some new stuff 2 bite sweat.gif
Currently i ignore wad his doing and let him do until he's tired and go asleep. Is this ok? I mean let him bite on things will it injured his jaw or teeth?
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QUOTE(Cloudx @ Mar 31 2007, 02:23 PM)
Guys, my pup is very active, he likes to bites on everything he sees, from shoes to furnitures even when i bought him some toys to bite on he'll tend 2 get bored on those toys and find some new stuff 2 bite sweat.gif
Currently i ignore wad his doing and let him do until he's tired and go asleep. Is this ok? I mean let him bite on things will it injured his jaw or teeth?
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well , dun pamper ur cute furkid , although it still young and u can buy those chewing bone for it to chew but not ur thing to let it bite ...if it still young and u didnt train it not to bite ur shoes or those furniture when next time when it grow to adult , it it still got this bad habit , thenu have to buy new shoes always ? well , there is a way to stop it bite ur shoes , i always use this method which is use my hand clap it loudly and say '' NO '' , then my furkid will know tat i do not like when it bite my thing . if this method cannot , then u have to buy a spray to not let ur furkid to bite ur furniture and shoes , is a bad habit flex.gif

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QUOTE(Cloudx @ Mar 31 2007, 02:23 PM)
Guys, my pup is very active, he likes to bites on everything he sees, from shoes to furnitures even when i bought him some toys to bite on he'll tend 2 get bored on those toys and find some new stuff 2 bite sweat.gif
Currently i ignore wad his doing and let him do until he's tired and go asleep. Is this ok? I mean let him bite on things will it injured his jaw or teeth?
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Naturally puppies like to play. Since he got no one to rough play with him, he bored loh so go chew things. It is natural for puppies to chew coz it excercises his jaw bone and muscles.

But if he chews furniture and shoes .... bad lah.

If you ignore and let him do those things, it will become a bad habit in the long run.

Whenever you notice your pup is chewing something that is not a toy, quickly take your pup away from that area. Say no everytime you push him away. Then bring him far away and give him his chew toys. If he starts to play and chew his toys, praise him and play with him.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 31 2007, 04:49 PM)
Naturally puppies like to play. Since he got no one to rough play with him, he bored loh so go chew things. It is natural for puppies to chew coz it excercises his jaw bone and muscles.

But if he chews furniture and shoes .... bad lah.

If you ignore and let him do those things, it will become a bad habit in the long run.

Whenever you notice your pup is chewing something that is not a toy, quickly take your pup away from that area. Say no everytime you push him away. Then bring him far away and give him his chew toys. If he starts to play and chew his toys, praise him and play with him.
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Yea puppies like to play alot, sometimes when i got some free time i'll play with him, normally he like when ppl rubbing his tummy, eveytime i did this he just stay there and let me rub it biggrin.gif

I got try clap my and and say NO loudly but it seems he's ignoring it sweat.gif sweat.gif So now everytime he chew on a shoe i'll pick him up and put him far far away frm the shoes haha... but kinda sad though coz he'll start crying doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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LOL , u carry him high and tell him NO ! then he will scare maybe tongue.gif
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Yea puppies like to play alot, sometimes when i got some free time i'll play with him, normally he like when ppl rubbing his tummy, eveytime i did this he just stay there and let me rub it  biggrin.gif

I got try clap my and and say NO loudly but it seems he's ignoring it  sweat.gif  sweat.gif So now everytime he chew on a shoe i'll pick him up and put him far far away frm the shoes haha... but kinda sad though coz he'll start crying  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Dogs got alot of sign language.... my dad bought a book for me on dog body language, very interesting to read.

Anyway, you must be stern. Cry then let it cry loh. ahaha... it must learn that you are the boss. When it chews or does anything wrong. Say "NO" loudly, then take the pup away from the fun thing he is doing.
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Dogs got alot of sign language.... my dad bought a book for me on dog body language, very interesting to read.

Anyway, you must be stern. Cry then let it cry loh. ahaha... it must learn that you are the boss. When it chews or does anything wrong. Say "NO" loudly, then take the pup away from the fun thing he is doing.
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Im stern, but now when i yell NO loudly he tends to ignore it sweat.gif

Btw i notice that he is super active leh always wanna bite ppl at first i tot he's just eager to go out, but when i take him go out for a walk he keep searching for dry leaf or sometimes rubbish and eat them, i hv to forcefully open his mouth and take it out. Everytime he did that i say no loudly but nothing happens.

Can he b sick? Coz his behaviour only happens suddenly which really makes me puzzled rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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if im planning to get a puppy... how many months is the most suitable age for me to get ? (as in the age for best training)
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if im planning to get a puppy... how many months is the most suitable age for me to get ? (as in the age for best training)
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tummy rubbing, haha.........

I manage to train my puppy to pee on the newspaper, but still she dun wan to poo on it (the same newspaper for pee, same location), how ah?? how to train?? seems like quite hard for poo wor..........

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my Lucky won't lay like ur shih tzu on the floor for me to rub his tummy sweat.gif. He doesn't like to lay like a human on da floor. Always lay like carpet.
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ha, my fifi is diff, she only likes to bite, scratch the carpet and pillow, but luvs the cool feeling floor......and always manja...whenever i scold her, say NO....she will sit there guai guai. Then later when i sayang back, she'll just lay back and wan tummy rub...........

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Teach her not to bite stuffs coz it might become a bad habit at later stage. I neva see lucky scratch any of my belongings before LOL. Ur fifi has the character of a kitten laugh.gif . My lucky ar - whenever he steps onto my bed, he sure pee thr rclxub.gif
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I manage to train my puppy to pee on the newspaper, but still she dun wan to poo on it (the same newspaper for pee, same location), how ah?? how to train?? seems like quite hard for poo wor..........
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hahah i think mostly furkid do love timmy rubbing wan . same goes to my furkid as well .

well if ur furkid is manage to pee on newspaper then is easy to allow ur furkid to poo at newpaper as well , time can proove everything . well , normally where do ur furkid poo ? well after ur furkid got the intention to poo , u fast fast place ur furkid at the newpaper which it usually pee . then let it know this is the place which is for him to poo . and after he poo at a correct spot . Bring treats. never feel panic ,If it doesn't want, please wait for few 5-10 mins and start this regime all over again till it does it bussiness after it have it meal. evrytime when it poo at the correct spot remember rewards it with treats or praise it. continously with this process in the future even if this will take you easier up to a week. due to ur patience ,it will learn the right spot! When it reaches that 'target', give it bigger treat , im sure ur furkid love it thumbup.gif

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ha, my fifi is diff, she only likes to bite, scratch the carpet and pillow, but luvs the cool feeling floor......and always manja...whenever i scold her, say NO....she will sit there guai guai. Then later when i sayang back, she'll just lay back and wan tummy rub...........
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whenever it scratch the floor , carpert and pillow , must control it habit . if u didnt show tat u dislike it habit which is scractching , bitting or etc .. it will feel that u didnt care about this habit it do , and it will become a habit which is hard to amend already if during it growing stage and didnt show what u like her to do , and what u dislike her do right ? anyway i bet one day u will manage it too ...good luck buddy thumbup.gif


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im going to place a cage inside a room for my future pup.. and the room will belong to my pup..
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1)at nite sleeping time i will close the room door... coz im afraid it will come out and dont know wad it will do.. then should i also close the cage door? or should i open the cage door and let it roam ard the room when its boring?i will put LOTS of toys for it.

2)usually at nite when we are slping.. wad will the pups be doing arh? and when is whines... does the clock method really works?

3)i will also place some newspapers in the room corner.. is it better for the pup to pee poo inside the cage or let it pee poo outside the cage.

4)dogs will not pee poo ard its slping place, is it consider the room is also its slping place or the cage? will a dog pee poo in its own room ?

5)does dogs follow our slping time?.. like we slp, it slps. we wake up, i'll wake up. will the dog get hungry during mid nite anot?

these are some questions i wana know even though i haven get my dog yet.. there are more.. but i dunwan to get confuse first.

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My puppy is now having erm... teething period i guess, coz gets agitated very easily and likes to bite on things even myself sad.gif But there are times when he's very nice and will not bite. I did some research on this and found that tis is normal but it'll last up 2 1 year. shocking.gif

And to make things worse since i know nothing bout dogs i dont hv cages and toys to keep him company. Im planning to get some toys for him 2 chew on coz the previous chewable bones cant get his attention.

I need help from dog owners who lives in Butterworth, Penang to give me info bout shops that sells various toys for puppies. Coz i cant find it in carrefour or other shopping center.
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if u know how to control ur dog it wont last a year la. just a month or two.
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im going to place a cage inside a room for my future pup.. and the room will belong to my pup..
questions...
1)at nite sleeping time i will close the room door... coz im afraid it will come out and dont know wad it will do.. then should i also close the cage door? or should i open the cage door and let it roam ard the room when its boring?i will put LOTS of toys for it.

2)usually at nite when we are slping.. wad will the pups be doing arh? and when is whines... does the clock method really works?

3)i will also place some newspapers in the room corner.. is it better for the pup to pee poo inside the cage or let it pee poo outside the cage.

4)dogs will not pee poo ard its slping place, is it consider the room is also its slping place or the cage? will a dog pee poo in its own room ?

5)does dogs follow our slping time?.. like we slp, it slps. we wake up, i'll wake up. will the dog get hungry during mid nite anot?

these are some questions i wana know even though i haven get my dog yet.. there are more.. but i dunwan to get confuse first.
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1) I would close the cage door and keep her inside. Keeps her safe more than anything when you are not watching. You don't want her to have any pee/poo accidents or choke on something.

2) Whines may be a few things. If she is young, she will need to go pee/poo more often. Watch her behavior and train her pee/poo times. You need to time it so you get up in the middle of the night to take her to the correct pee/poo place to prevent her from doing it in her cage. Her instinct is not to soil her sleep area but if you give it no choice then she's gonna go inside her cage. This sets back your pee/poo training in the correct place.

If you are already keeping a schedule and she's doing beautifully by not peeing/poopooing in her cage then you are doing a wonderful job. Increase the time in between taking her to the correct spot as she grows older.

If she still whines after doing her business, you need to ignore her. If you go to her and give attention when she whines (not as a signal to pee/poo) then you are reinforcing this behavior. Not good. Ignore her. She may whine, barks and make a lot of noise. Ignore it.

3) I definitely say outside the cage. Who wants to sleep in a dirty smelly soil cage even if it is in a corner assuming your cage is big. That brings up something else. When your puppy is young, use a cage that is appropriate for her size meaning just enough for her to turn and lie down. A bigger cage can set back proper pee/poo training when she goes outside of your schedule. Not good.

If possible, I say outside the house if you have a yard. Even in a corner, I find that the smell will disperse around your room/apt/house. To me that is not so good. My dog does all her business outside on schedule.

4) If you decide to always take her out and you do your activites in your room including playing with her, she will learn to respect your area as well. That means she can learn not to pee/poo in the room too. However, if you have choosen a corner then by all means train her to go in that corner. She will do it. I guess what I mean to say is, it is up to you. You can make the room your/her personal space too or not. If you do, then she will most likely learn not to go in the room as well.

5) Puppies sleep more often. Your dog will learn your sleeping time too. Back to the whining part earlier. If you don't give it attention, she going to sleep. smile.gif If you keep a set feeding schedule, she should not be hungry. I recommend feeding at least twice a day and not once a day. Do it say once in the morning 7am or earlier (if you have to leave for the day for school/work) and feed once again in the evening like 6pm or later after you come back. No need to feed in the middle of the night. That's bad... keep the same schedule and your dog will learn. No need to be like you... you know... hungry go mamak... no need. tongue.gif tongue.gif


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here the answer with green colour letter word.

1)at nite sleeping time i will close the room door... coz im afraid it will come out and dont know wad it will do.. then should i also close the cage door? or should i open the cage door and let it roam ard the room when its boring?i will put LOTS of toys for it.
if u lock the room door , i suggest better train it not to bite things or furniture 1st , then only let ur furkid free roam at ur room . and toilet train or paper train it 1st

2)usually at nite when we are slping.. wad will the pups be doing arh? and when is whines... does the clock method really works?
well 1st day those puppy sure will whining becuz it scare to be alone and wan people to accompany them , but although it whining , must remember clap ur hand hardly , allow ur furkid to know u will angry if it whining. nvr shout and hit furkid , because it still small and young.

3)i will also place some newspapers in the room corner.. is it better for the pup to pee poo inside the cage or let it pee poo outside the cage.
well pee and poo problem is depend is it convenient to u to wash and wipe or not .some people will allow dog to poo and pee at cage , but bad thing is furkid will step on the poo poo . it paw will stick those poo poo edi . secondly is some people will let furkid pee and poo at toilet , then just use tissue to wipe and pick poo poo or use water clean it . thirty is put newspaper in the tray , and paper train it.

4)dogs will not pee poo ard its slping place, is it consider the room is also its slping place or the cage? will a dog pee poo in its own room ?
well furkid still will pee or poo at it sleeping place if it dunnoe where the exactly place to pee or poo . let's say if u allow ur furkid pee or poo at toilet , normally puppy will poo after meal , or before meal time , some will poo after play game and play toy with owner. so allow me to know when u set which place is convenient to u to set ur furkid to do it own bussiness hehe.

5)does dogs follow our slping time?.. like we slp, it slps. we wake up, i'll wake up. will the dog get hungry during mid nite anot?
well when i sleep , my furkid will follow my time and sleep wan .but my furkid do love to take nap,when it boring at afternoon , then it will sleep z.z.z


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theres one thing troubling me is when i lock her up in the cage and im off to slp.. how she going to pee poo when im not awake?
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Apr 6 2007, 10:10 PM)
theres one thing troubling me is when i lock her up in the cage and im off to slp.. how she going to pee poo when im not awake?
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You are not reading what I posted properly. You need to keep a schedule too. Sorry to say you will have to get up in the middle of the night to take her to the correct spot. Say 12am, 3am, 6am... when she grows older or when you feel that she can hold it in longer, do it say 12am 4am, 8am... Increase appropriately. Clear? smile.gif


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theres one thing troubling me is when i lock her up in the cage and im off to slp.. how she going to pee poo when im not awake?
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well , if u lock her up at cage , and if ur furkid cannot control edi , then sure will pee or pee at cage . so have to set time for it to pee at toilet or pee at paper. normally i allow my furkid pee within 4 hours , and after i back from work , and when my furkid out from cage , 1st thing i sure ask my furkid go toilet . well if poo poo , my furkid will poo poo after i let it eat it meal .so dun worry , every furkid very easy to train wan ='D im sure u can icon_rolleyes.gif

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1) im going to let my pup own a room itself.. means its room.. its not gona share a room with me.. there wont be any furniture but will be lots of its toys and stuffs.

2)clap the hand and it will learn not to whine ah? and how i going to noe it whine becoz it wan to go toliet?

3)i prefer to let my dog do its bis on a newpaper.. i also though it would be dirty if let it pee poo in the cage.

wad do u mean normallly u will allow ur furkid to pee within 4hours?

once she learned to pee poo on the newspaper in her room and if i also put some newpaper in the living room wil she still know how to do its bis in the living room's newpaper?

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Hey guys, my sister's Maltese poo is green in colour and pretty soft, but she seems fine. Should I bring her to a vet immediately for a check up?
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1) im going to let my pup own a room itself.. means its room.. its not gona share a room with me.. there wont be any furniture but will be lots of its toys and stuffs.

2)clap the hand and it will learn not to whine ah? and how i going to noe it whine becoz it wan to go toliet?

3)i prefer to let my dog do its bis on a newpaper.. i also though it would be dirty if let it pee poo in the cage.

wad do u mean normallly u will allow ur furkid to pee within 4hours?

once she learned to pee poo on the newspaper in her room and if i also put some newpaper in the living room  wil she  still know how to do its bis in the living room's newpaper?

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1) Unless you have her trained on the correct spot to pee/poo, I would not recommend leaving the dog alone in the room. It's too easy for her to make a mistake. You are only setting your dog up to fail if you leave her alone during the young untrained stage. It is hard to correct once she has pee/poo in the wrong spot. The best correction is when you catch her in the act! You immediately make a loud noise like 'NO!' to distract her and then bring her to the correct spot immediately. If she goes then, shower her with praises and treats. There is no point in correcting after the fact because she will not understand what she did wrong (you are going to hear this a lot... rub her face in the pee/poo... she will learn. WRONG! Don't do it.)

Do not leave toys with her when she is unsupervised. Treat all toys are harmful. I am sure you do not want her to choke to death when you are not around no matter how big the toy is.

2) I find that clapping does not work effectively for me. This goes for a puppy that is not easily distracted. The more you clap, the more you make a noise, it is seen as reinforcing the whining behavior to the puppy. I say ignore it. When no one gives attention, she will be quiet soon.

3) He means like what I have posted. You keep a schedule to take your dog to the correct spot to pee/poo. It can be every 4 hours, can be every 2 hours, it all depends on how old your dog is and if she can hold it in that long. If not shorten the time.

You can alternate between taking her to the newspaper in her room or in the living room. She will learn very quickly.

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Hey guys, my sister's Maltese poo is green in colour and pretty soft, but she seems fine. Should I bring her to a vet immediately for a check up?
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Should not be a problem if you don't see any change in eating, playing or her regular behavior. Did she eat something that might have caused the change in color? For example, after I feed Greenies to my dog, her poo will come out greenish.


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Hmm.. just fed her those green dog chews for the teeth today.
But before this she was okay with those, never did pooped green urh.. poo. tongue.gif
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Your dog should be fine based on what you just told us. smile.gif


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Phew, I was so worried about her just now. Heh. Thanks RB! ^^
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ohh.. so by all means i should take my newly pup to pee poo at the newspaper every 2-4hrs no matter it wan it or not rite?

thanks RB,DiGitral.
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We are giving the 2-4 hrs as example. Every dog is different. You need to adjust based on your dog behavior. Most dogs however, will want to eliminate not long after eating/drinking/playing.

So again as an example, you can:

1) 6:00pm - feed (food/water)
2) 6:15pm - take dog to correct spot (give the command you want the dog to learn to eliminate like 'go potty'). Wait with her for about 5 - 10 mins.
3) 8:00pm - take dog to correct spot (give the command you want the dog to learn to eliminate like 'go potty').Wait with her for about 5 - 10 mins.
4) etc
5) etc

As I said. Increase the time between each pee/poo training. However, sometimes your dog may need to eliminate between the set time. Watch for sniffing, circling a spot, whining. If so, take her to the correct spot. At this stage you want to let her know 'the' spot. The schedule is to help you prevent elimination accidents because sometimes your dog may not show any signs and will want to go immediately. smile.gif


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okies thank u so much yeah.
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wanna ask, around wat age a puppy change fur??
For ex my shih tzu??
Then each year shed how many times??
My shih tzu is dark brown and white color. After change fur will the color change? i mean become lighter?


Added on April 8, 2007, 6:09 pmMochi, u've bought a puppy ah?? what breed?? post some pic lah......

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joonalooidog.. haha u so shocked for wad ... im going to get either a maltese or red toy poodle on june.. eh u got toilet train ur dog? wad u did?
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Apr 8 2007, 09:15 PM)
joonalooidog.. haha u so shocked for wad ... im going to get either a maltese or red toy poodle on june.. eh u got toilet train ur dog? wad u did?
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so mochi , if u free u can view white palace's maltese puppies lor.
cuz u still got the time to search more breeder puppies ='D
btw , mochi i know u are counting down and wait for ur birthday present. haha
well , toilet train method very easy wan , but then different owner got own method lor. but then dun worry so much , i noe you have decide to own the dog , and u have to preapre to well train it , haha

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yes indeed. im so nervous and stress also..im now looking for more breeder so tt i can have more preferences. haha.. and every nite i dream of my future dog also.. haha... but the percentage of wanting a red toy is higher then a maltese.

i juz love the teddy bear look..
its my hubby tt wan me to consider maltese.. haha

but toilet training i wan to learn more so by that time i wont freaked out and dont noe wad to do?


Added on April 8, 2007, 10:12 pmi wan more tips and how peeps train their dog also.. if it barks how to call it diam diam arh?

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Apr 8 2007, 10:10 PM)
yes indeed. im so nervous and stress also..im now looking for more breeder so tt i can have more preferences. haha..  and every nite i dream of my future dog also.. haha... but the percentage of wanting a red toy is higher then a maltese.

i juz love the teddy bear look..
its my hubby tt wan me to consider maltese.. haha

but toilet training i wan to learn more so by that time i wont freaked out and dont noe wad to do?


Added on April 8, 2007, 10:12 pmi wan more tips and how peeps train their dog also.. if it barks how to call it diam diam arh?
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hahha icic.yea red toy poddle really look like a teddy bear and maltese too . hahaha !!!! both oso look like a teddy bear .

yea , i can see u are nervours and waitting for ur present . hehe.
well when tat time u 1st day get ur puppy , must take photos then .
but i think precentages u want red toy poddle will be higher lor then.
hmm , the method of toilet training i think red box been explain edi , and my method too , hope it can help mochi ='D thumbup.gif

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yeah yeah so have to thanks lots lots for the both of u!

also how to teach a dog not to bark tat much?
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Apr 8 2007, 10:19 PM)
yeah yeah so have to thanks lots lots for the both of u!

also how to teach a dog not to bark tat much?
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well actually control furkid not to bark have to train it when u mention tat ur furkid bark at those thing or ppl which is unnessary to bark wan then u must always say no . well , well my furkid see me clap my hand loudly then my furkid will stop barking edi , and say '' NO '' when u mention ur furkid bark . better control it not to bark ...non stop. maybe start from now , u can list down all those method to train ur furkid , then will be easier for u ='D is part of ur research too .hehehe , although owning a furkid , have to train it , but is a joy to teaching own dog . growing process and learning process from own furkid is really cool.
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haha i already copied lists of traing methods already..
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Apr 8 2007, 10:48 PM)
haha i already copied lists of traing methods already..
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hahahaha , good job mochi ='DDDD
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till tat day u own ur future furkid , sure very expert taking care of it edi brows.gif

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Apr 8 2007, 09:15 PM)
joonalooidog.. haha u so shocked for wad ... im going to get either a maltese or red toy poodle on june.. eh u got toilet train ur dog? wad u did?
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how to toilet train? follow wat listed in this thread loh.....
normally i cage my puppy when I'm off to work or go makan or sleeping. At first she will pee in the cage lah of course.
Morning before work, bring her out, put her on the newspaper, let her smell. When u see she sniff sniff and turn rounds, start pee!! then fast fast bring her to the newspaper. After pee, wipe butt, wipe the newspaper, let it dried(got the pee smell) and reuse. After eat, wait for her to poo. Same thing, sniff sniff turn rounds, then fast fast bring her to paper again, after poo, throw poo away, leave some stain on the paper (got poo smell). Then put back into cage.

After work, open cage, bring her to paper to pee. Then after feeding, wait her poo.

Whenever she pee, bring her to paper, then give her a treat (use back the kibbles she's eating). Repeat the above steps for around 2 weeks to 1month.
Then try whether she recognize the place to pee or not. Open cage, dun carry her. See her wanna pee on floor, say NO....then push her butt a bit loh. THen slowly lure her or guide her to paper. Let her smell the pee smell paper. After she pee on paper, praise her.

Something like that lah.....Just be prepare to do alot of cleaning in 1 months time. Sometimes i do get frust, but wat 2 do.........everytime she give u those innocent look, ur heart also melt lah..........


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hahaah.. i noe its alot of work , like taking care of a child la.. my son also shh shh here and poo on the floor sometimes when his not wearing diapers.. haha i think i can take gd care of the dog since i had been doing mummy jobs for like 2yr more liao.. lol..

but did ur shit tse learn to pee poo on the newspaper? im considering using white palace wee wee pad.
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Apr 9 2007, 03:34 PM)
hahaah.. i noe its alot of work , like taking care of a child la.. my son also shh shh here and poo on the floor sometimes when his not wearing diapers.. haha i think i can take gd care of the dog since i had been doing mummy jobs for like 2yr more liao.. lol..

but did ur shit tse learn to pee poo on the newspaper? im considering using white palace wee wee pad.
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Yup, my shih tzu knows where to pee now. Whenever i open the door of the cage, she will quickly run to the spot where she pee (newspaper). After she pee, i need to wipe her butt, if not the pee will start dripping.And need to becareful not to let her step on her pee, so i think Wee Wee pad is better, same training concept.
But for poo, dunno y my shih tzu still dun wanna poo on the same paper where she pee. When i see her wanna poo, need to carry her on the newspaper. Or if i know she wanna poo, i quickly open another new newspaper and put on the floor. Then only she'll go there, sniff sniff and poo......
SO now I'm stil trying to train her to poo on the same spot where she pee.
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broz and sisz...

my puppy vomit... is it normal? this is the 2nd time that this happen... is there something wrong?
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Apr 9 2007, 03:34 PM)
hahaah.. i noe its alot of work , like taking care of a child la.. my son also shh shh here and poo on the floor sometimes when his not wearing diapers.. haha i think i can take gd care of the dog since i had been doing mummy jobs for like 2yr more liao.. lol..

but did ur shit tse learn to pee poo on the newspaper? im considering using white palace wee wee pad.
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well WP's wee wee pad is good.
as ur furkid will not step on those pee and poo , becuz the wee wee pad can absorb those pee. well i know WP will teach u how 2 use it tat time u bought it


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broz and sisz...

my puppy vomit... is it normal? this is the 2nd time that this happen... is there something wrong?
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mattchin ,
well ur puppy vommit non stop ?
izzit eat wrong thing ?


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When you say 2nd time, do you mean it has been the 2nd time in a short period like a few hours? How is her behavior? It could be she just ate something wrong. Mine did vomit after she ate her own hair! But she was fine after that.

You should keep an eye and see if there is a change in her normal behavior. If so, I would suggest visiting a vet.


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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Apr 9 2007, 04:46 PM)
Yup, my shih tzu knows where to pee now. Whenever i open the door of the cage, she will quickly run to the spot where she pee (newspaper). After she pee, i need to wipe her butt, if not the pee will start dripping.And need to becareful not to let her step on her pee, so i think Wee Wee pad is better, same training concept.
But for poo, dunno y my shih tzu still dun wanna poo on the same paper where she pee. When i see her wanna poo, need to carry her on the newspaper. Or if i know she wanna poo, i quickly open another new newspaper and put on the floor. Then only she'll go there, sniff sniff and poo......
SO now I'm stil trying to train her to poo on the same spot where she pee.
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how long did u train ur shit tse b4 it noe how to do on the newspaper?.. u buy ur shit tse at a pet store?

QUOTE(Digitral @ Apr 9 2007, 06:02 PM)
well WP's wee wee pad is good.
as ur furkid will not step on those pee and poo , becuz the wee wee pad can absorb those pee. well i know WP will teach u how 2 use it tat time u bought it

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I want to cry liao. My dog is very scary cat. When ever a little bit also he is very scare and everytime he is scare he will pee. Can anyone help me please
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QUOTE(lovepassion @ Apr 10 2007, 05:25 AM)
I want to cry liao. My dog is very scary cat. When ever a little bit also he is very scare and everytime he is scare he will pee. Can anyone help me please
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Thought you were asking about a cat at first. tongue.gif tongue.gif How old is your puppy? Puppies should outgrow this behavior.

Does your dog also pee when she sees you like when you come home and such?


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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Apr 9 2007, 10:07 PM)
how long did u train ur shit tse b4 it noe how to do on the newspaper?.. u buy ur shit tse at a pet store?
How long to train her ah.....around 2 - 3 weeks time loh.
ya, i buy my shih tzu at pet store one, 1st sight attraction, haha.........
Luckily she is healthy and ticks free when i bring her home. And luckily she is less yappy also, but very playful lah........

As Digitral said, wee pad is good loh, coz she won step on her own pee. For me, budget tight, so din use wee wee pad, haha....
Instead i use a cloth, or unwanted T-shirt, place it on a tray.
Since i train her to go to paper 1st, so now, if floor got paper will pee on paper, if not, she'll pee on the cloth. Now wan to train her only pee on the cloth and poo on paper. I rotate 2 pieces of cloth. Wash the cloth each day and replace it wif another. Although the cloth is clean, since the tray itself got her pee smell, so still so will go to the cloth and pee. Now so far so good lah.....
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Apr 9 2007, 10:07 PM)
how long did u train ur shit tse b4 it noe how to do on the newspaper?.. u buy ur shit tse at a pet store?
u got use b4?
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well Wp's wee wee pad i no use before . but i think is a good idea .
cuz my lui lui wont step on it pee pee , and i directly wipe it pee when my furkid pee at toilet mar , so i no buy lor. but honestly wp's wee wee pad very very reasonable price edi and cheap compare to pet store. well as i always say , different owner got different method to teach it furkid to pee and poo wan , if u think the method is convenient to u , then it fine de.

like joanalooidog method oso not bad wurt , as least the owner feel is alright and covenient lor . thumbup.gif

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hee.. errr wads mircochipped?
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wad the??? ur joking la rite?


Added on April 10, 2007, 9:49 pmhaha i noe ur joking.. then wads the use of it? to find it back when its lost? and how dogs got the mka cert? wad makes it a bit ex?

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Haha... sorry. I just phrased it lightly. tongue.gif They inject a microchip into the back of your dog that will have your information. If you ever lose your dog and found by some kind soul that can take it to a vet to be scanned, then they can probably find you and return your dog to you.


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wooo... can we do it ourself after bought a dog with no mircochip? is it ex?
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Well I don't know about doing it your self but you can take it to a place that does it. I don't know how much it will cost. I have not got mine done yet.


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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Apr 10 2007, 09:56 PM)
wooo... can we do it ourself after bought a dog with no mircochip? is it ex?
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how much i dunno lah....mayb u can check with SPCA or MKA. Normally a dog with cert will have microchip one.THe breeder or the pet shop will plant the microchip on her back of her neck. A dog without cert still can be microchipped. its just like our human IC to identify each person.
Last time when i'm rubbing her back, i thought there's a small lump or tumor at my shih tzu's neck. When i took her for her 2nd jab, i told the vet that she has a small tumor on her neck. When the vet examine my puppy, she says that its a microchip lah......... i like doh.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(RedBox @ Apr 10 2007, 05:28 AM)
Thought you were asking about a cat at first. tongue.gif tongue.gif How old is your puppy? Puppies should outgrow this behavior.

Does your dog also pee when she sees you like when you come home and such?
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nope. Only when I scold him or I leave him alone in his play area then I walk away to do something then when I come back he pee and he sit on the pee as if got monster want to eat him or I bring him to other place than his cage.
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QUOTE(lovepassion @ Apr 11 2007, 12:39 PM)
nope. Only when I scold him or I leave him alone in his play area then I walk away to do something then when I come back he pee and he sit on the pee as if got monster want to eat him or I bring him to other place than his cage.
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Sounds like a regular potty training problem. Try this. Don't leave him unsupervise in the play area for now. If you have to do something, put him in his cage. This might be a good time to train him to go in his cage as well. Give a command you want to use for your dog to go in his cage (home). I use 'IN' and point to the cage.

Anyway, back to the potty problem. Use a cage that is just big enough for him to lie down and turn comfortably. Too big a cage will allow him to pee in a corner away from his main area. Follow your current schedule to take him potty at the correct spot. It may take a while if you are not used to keeping him in the cage. He needs to 'make' the cage his home. Praise and give treats after you put him in the cage.

By doing this, you are not allowing him to run a big area with plenty of potty places while unsupervise. This also allow you to always get him to the correct spot. He will learn.


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thanks for the response...

the vomit thing seems 2 b not happening anymore.. but n0w.. bigger problem coming in.. my puppy's fur is dropping? hmm.. not exactly dropping.. it's easy to be "pluck" out...

sigh... i dono how 2 describe it.. but seems 2 b like the fur is easy 2 drop off... my pup is taking nutriedge's lamb n rice for all stage... any1 haf this prob b4?
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Should just be regular shedding. Most dogs shed their hair. You need to buy a few good grooming desheding/slicker brush and start using it.


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but mine is still a puppy (maximum 2mths old).. the fur shedding thing cost how much arhh? and how do u use it?

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Sounds like a regular potty training problem. Try this. Don't leave him unsupervise in the play area for now. If you have to do something, put him in his cage. This might be a good time to train him to go in his cage as well. Give a command you want to use for your dog to go in his cage (home). I use 'IN' and point to the cage.

Anyway, back to the potty problem. Use a cage that is just big enough for him to lie down and turn comfortably. Too big a cage will allow him to pee in a corner away from his main area. Follow your current schedule to take him potty at the correct spot. It may take a while if you are not used to keeping him in the cage. He needs to 'make' the cage his home. Praise and give treats after you put him in the cage.

By doing this, you are not allowing him to run a big area with plenty of potty places while unsupervise. This also allow you to always get him to the correct spot. He will learn.
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yay... i just got my puppy..

erm.. i have 1 question to ask..

when i buy this puppy.. the shopkeeper tell me to get a new cage..
but i have an old cage.. can use also rite ?? (abit rusty though)

and when can i start training my puppy ??
she is only 1 month old now..

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yay... i just got my puppy..

erm.. i have 1 question to ask..

when i buy this puppy.. the shopkeeper tell me to get a new cage..
but i have an old cage.. can use also rite ?? (abit rusty though)

and when can i start training my puppy ??
she is only 1 month old now..
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You got from a petshop?

Anyway, the cage, if rusty at the bottom then still can use. Just respray the bottom but if rusty all over, you must not use it coz puppies are always curious and will chew the sides of the cage when bored. The rust can cause health problems if ingested too much.

1 month old, that is really really young!!!! Puppies should never be sold at 1 month old lah. The best age is 8 weeks old, means 2 months. 1 month is very risky. Please take to the vet for a health check.

You can train it to know its name first. The first few things you can train a young puppy is know its name, "come" and "heel"... then later move on to "sit", "stay" and whatever you think is necessary.
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omg.. 1 month is too young ???
but the petshop told me its ok wor.. and he told me to bring my dog for injection after 1 month..

izit normal that my dog always sleeps??

but he have a good appetite though..
and my dog's breath is quite smelly , smells abit like dog's biscuit but im not sure its the dog biscuits smell or she ate her poo -.-""
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It is kinda young. Only 4 weeks. Should still be in the litter. But you probably don't have a choice now since you already bought it. Normal for a puppy to sleep especially if you have just taken it home. New environment for him are stressful as well. Just let him sleep.


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1 month old?? Are you sure? That is really too young to be separated from their mother . Where did you buy the puppy?
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Yah, 1 month old is really too young.... about the smell.... can't really explain to you bout my experience but last time fostered a few puppies, their breath got a slight sourish smell.... turned out to be worms in the tummy... after deworming, no smell... but it really depends coz those pups were stray pups from the road.

A 1 month old puppy will sleep more. I still think what the shop did was wrong, sell to you a 1 month old pup. It is too young even for vaccination. Normally good breeders separate at 8 weeks old.... petshops normally sell pups at the minimum of 6 weeks old, never younger than that.
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i do feel like i've been cheated.. lol

erm.. im quite good with pets lar.. try my best to take care of her lo..
nothing much can do.. her teeth havent fully grown also but she eat so fast -.-""
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1 month old and since you said her teeth hasn't fully grown yet, better soak the kibbles with water/ milk first. By da way, post up some pics of her tongue.gif.
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will take some pic later if free.. i hardly get enough sleep.. she wake me up almost every 2 hours last nite to pee and poo -.-""... izit normal that she has a stomach that is quite big ?? its like a small balloon..
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QUOTE(mudz @ May 16 2007, 10:48 AM)
will take some pic later if free.. i hardly get enough sleep.. she wake me up almost every 2 hours last nite to pee and poo -.-""... izit normal that she has a stomach that is quite big ?? its like a small balloon..
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Balloon stomach? That is the signs of worms ler..... means the stomach got worms.... or it could be she ate a lot but normally when the tummy is bloated, it means worms.

It is normal for such a young puppy to pee and poo every 2 to 3 hours. They got no bladder control now, this is why breeders do not sell pups that young. I think the petshop just wanna have fast sales....

Anyway, did you bring to a vet clinic for check up? Coz with a bloated stomach, need to do health check.
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any good vet near kepong ?
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how much roughly for the checkup ??
i need to withdraw money 1st
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Apr 9 2007, 10:04 AM)
how to toilet train? follow wat listed in this thread loh.....
normally i cage my puppy when I'm off to work or go makan or sleeping. At first she will pee in the cage lah of course.
Morning before work, bring her out, put her on the newspaper, let her smell. When u see she sniff sniff and turn rounds, start pee!! then fast fast bring her to the newspaper. After pee, wipe butt, wipe the newspaper, let it dried(got the pee smell) and reuse. After eat, wait for her to poo. Same thing, sniff sniff turn rounds, then fast fast bring her to paper again, after poo, throw poo away, leave some stain on the paper (got poo smell). Then put back into cage.
oh but what is i were to buy a puppy aound 2 months old
then i go for class (full day) class and only reach home around 8pm
he only pee in d am b4 i work, ard 7am

do u think he can tahan?
i scared he wil pee pee in the cage ler sad.gif

this is my most concern b4 getting a dog doh.gif
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how much roughly for the checkup ??
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What check up?

You can call him up & chat with him about the rate.
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izit normal that she has a stomach that is quite big ?? its like a small balloon..
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By right, puppies should be dewormed every two weeks once they are two weeks old until they are three months. After that, it depends whether your dog goes out or not but once in three to six months will do.

This is what my vet told me and what I practise.

You should bring your pup to the vet and see what he/she says. Do bring to a reputable vet though. If you are in the Subang area, Healing Rooms is very good. smile.gif

By the way, what pup did you buy?

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i got a toy poodle.. the colour is almost the same with ur picture..

erm.. i just brought my pup to check-up..

the vet told me my pup is healthy but it is very very risky as she is only 4 weeks old and she may fall sick anytime.. im very scared now T.T

there is 1 thing im not sure.. some petshop tells me that i can vaccinate my pup when she is 6 weeks old but some says must be 8 weeks old..

which one is correct as i hope i could vaccinate her as soon as possible..


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It is better for you to ask a vet what is the right age.... sometimes petshops just say stuff coz to them it is business... that is their vaccination routine.... from what I know, the best age is 8 weeks old.... so now you must not let your puppy come into contact with other dogs. There is a risk for her to get infected since 4 weeks old, immune system is weak.

How about the bloated tummy? Not worms?
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nope.. the vet didnt mention anything..

i guess i was just too nervous and worry.. lol

its my 1st pup and i really love her..
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QUOTE(mudz @ May 16 2007, 08:30 PM)
i got a toy poodle.. the colour is almost the same with ur picture..

erm.. i just brought my pup to check-up..

the vet told me my pup is healthy but it is very very risky as she is only 4 weeks old and she may fall sick anytime.. im very scared now T.T

there is 1 thing im not sure.. some petshop tells me that i can vaccinate my pup when she is 6 weeks old but some says must be 8 weeks old..

which one is correct as i hope i could vaccinate her as soon as possible..
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How come you own a 4 week old pup???!!! It shouldn't leave the mother so young!!!

Anyway, 1st vaccine should be done on 8 weeks old. Following by 11 weeks old & lastly 14 weeks old.

Usually petshop told you to give vaccination on 6 weeks old pup are wrong. Petshop ppls thinking are different cause their main concern is to sell off the pups to make profit. If the pup become to bigger chances the petshop selling off the pups are very slim. That why they practise give early injection so does the commercial/backyard breeders normally do.

I strongly against this type of unethical practise & discourage ppls from buying pets from petshops & commercial/backyard breeders.

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erm.. my puppy's poo is not solid and looks very watery..
i bring her to vet just few hours back but they said she is healthy..

her appetite is not so good compare to yesterday..
she just ate abit food today..

is there something wrong or is she just trying to adapt to the new enviroment ?
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oh but what is i were to buy a puppy aound 2 months old
then i go for class (full day) class and only reach home around 8pm
he only pee in d am b4 i work, ard 7am

do u think he can tahan?
i scared he wil pee pee in the cage ler

this is my most concern b4 getting a dog 


no one is answering my question :'(
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QUOTE(mudz @ May 17 2007, 02:20 AM)
erm.. my puppy's poo is not solid and looks very watery..
i bring her to vet just few hours back but they said she is healthy..

her appetite is not so good compare to yesterday..
she just ate abit food today..

is there something wrong or is she just trying to adapt to the new enviroment ?
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Could be change of new environment.. also new food. Have you been feeding the same food or you give different food? Which vet? The one Chrisoys recommended?

QUOTE(andyfriends @ May 17 2007, 09:02 AM)
no one is answering my question :'(
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Puppies pee every 3 to 4 hours.... they do not have great bladded control. The puppy cannot tahan that long and it is cruel to cage a 2 month old pup that long.

Get your pup when you are having long year end holidays. During that time you can easily train it to use the newspaper or cage or grass as peeing spot.... then when you go for classes, the pup will know what to do. I did that, I'm also a student but I do not cage my dog when she was a pup coz I trained her during my holidays.....
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yea.. i went to the dr kwek vet..
quite ok the service there..
erm.. currently i am dividing the cage into half..
half with newspaper and half with alot of cloth..
izit ok to put like that ?? she knows to pee and poo on the newspaper though.. but sometimes she will step on her poo , any ways to prevent that ??
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QUOTE(mudz @ May 17 2007, 02:20 AM)
erm.. my puppy's poo is not solid and looks very watery..
i bring her to vet just few hours back but they said she is healthy..

her appetite is not so good compare to yesterday..
she just ate abit food today..

is there something wrong or is she just trying to adapt to the new enviroment ?
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look for for out other sign.. such as lau sai... or vomit.... if got.. then bring to vet quickly... might be some virus... of worst.. could be parvo or distemper

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QUOTE(mudz @ May 17 2007, 04:52 PM)
yea.. i went to the dr kwek vet..
quite ok the service there..
erm.. currently i am dividing the cage into half..
half with newspaper and half with alot of cloth..
izit ok to put like that ?? she knows to pee and poo on the newspaper though.. but sometimes she will step on her poo , any ways to prevent that ??
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Put the paper below the cage. step on poo? nopes, that thing is in the same place with her.
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if i put the paper below the cage i scared next time she grow up will just poo like that wor..

can i know what is the sign of lau sai ??
the poo is watery..

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QUOTE(mudz @ May 17 2007, 05:05 PM)
if i put the paper below the cage i scared next time she grow up will just poo like that wor..

can i know what is the sign of lau sai ??
the poo is watery..
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Watery means lau sai.... diarrhea..... you know what I do? I will grab some of that watery poo in a plastic bag and show it to the vet.... Hahaha... I know, sounds disgusting but that is what I do when my dog suddenly got some weird stuff in the poo or is too watery....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ May 17 2007, 10:16 AM)
Could be change of new environment.. also new food. Have you been feeding the same food or you give different food? Which vet? The one Chrisoys recommended?
Puppies pee every 3 to 4 hours.... they do not have great bladded control. The puppy cannot tahan that long and it is cruel to cage a 2 month old pup that long.

Get your pup when you are having long year end holidays. During that time you can easily train it to use the newspaper or cage or grass as peeing spot.... then when you go for classes, the pup will know what to do. I did that, I'm also a student but I do not cage my dog when she was a pup coz I trained her during my holidays.....
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go toc lass everyday hardly got holiday
means i camt have it :'(
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I'm also a college student mah.... Don't tell me there is no such thing as sem break?
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ May 17 2007, 07:01 PM)
I'm also a college student mah.... Don't tell me there is no such thing as sem break?
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Ohh.... no wonder lah express.... then only get a dog after you graduate but you also must consider if you are gonna work long hours...
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ May 17 2007, 07:10 PM)
Ohh.... no wonder lah express.... then only get a dog after you graduate but you also must consider if you are gonna work long hours...
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I can keep puppy ah, I'm working leh, hehe..............

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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ May 17 2007, 07:19 PM)
I can keep puppy ah, I'm working leh, hehe..............
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Every morning, FIFI will be my auto alarm clock, which is around 6.30 to 7am. Then open cage, let her pee. Then i feed her, feed my hamster. Then i go brush up myself, after that, she'll poo on the paper, then i DABAO then throw it away. half an hour play time withe her, then cage her until i after work.
When i return, let herpee, then feed her again, then wait her poo. When everything finish, i go bathe, then makan.
After dinner, play time, then do my own work loh........
SOmething like that lah.
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when u cage her during ur work .. she got pee poo in the cage ?
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For a young puppy, it may be hard for her to hold it in and she may pee poo in the cage. For typical adult dogs, I believe most can hold it for more than 8 hours.

My schedule is such -

Wake up 6:50am, take dog out to pee. After that, prepare food for her. While she eats, I get ready to leave for work. Before I leave, I take her out one more time to pee and she usually poop as well on the second time. I leave her in the house uncaged.

Lunch time, I make my way back home and always get a happy welcome home from her as her tails go bump bump bump as she wags furiously hitting walls, furniture, doors. laugh.gif Take her out to pee and poo. Play with her for a while then eat lunch. If she drinks a lot of water, I take her out one more time before leaving again for work.

After 5pm, I leave work and head back home. Sometimes, I have to work late so she will be by herself until I can get home. Then it's out to pee and poop if she wants, play, if I am home early, I load her up in the car and go 1) walk around lake 2) shopping at Petco 3) walk to ice-cream shop and she gets a treat, etc. After we get home, rest for about 2 hours then feeding time again.


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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ May 17 2007, 07:57 PM)
Every morning, FIFI will be my auto alarm clock, which is around 6.30 to 7am. Then open cage, let her pee. Then i feed her, feed my hamster. Then i go brush up myself, after that, she'll poo on the paper, then i DABAO then throw it away. half an hour play time withe her, then cage her until i after work.
When i return, let herpee, then feed her again, then wait her poo. When everything finish, i go bathe, then makan.
After dinner, play time, then do my own work loh........
SOmething like that lah.
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QUOTE(RedBox @ May 18 2007, 12:10 AM)
My schedule is such -

Wake up 6:50am, take dog out to pee. After that, prepare food for her. While she eats, I get ready to leave for work. Before I leave, I take her out one more time to pee and she usually poop as well on the second time. I leave her in the house uncaged.

Lunch time, I make my way back home and always get a happy welcome home from her as her tails go bump bump bump as she wags furiously hitting walls, furniture, doors. laugh.gif Take her out to pee and poo. Play with her for a while then eat lunch. If she drinks a lot of water, I take her out one more time before leaving again for work.

After 5pm, I leave work and head back home. Sometimes, I have to work late so she will be by herself until I can get home. Then it's out to pee and poop if she wants, play, if I am home early, I load her up in the car and go 1) walk around lake 2) shopping at Petco 3) walk to ice-cream shop and she gets a treat, etc. After we get home, rest for about 2 hours then feeding time again.
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Thanks for ur detailed information

btw how old is ur puppy?
if u let her alone in the house uncage, there is also a possibility of her pee n poo everywhere rite?

is even worst if she bites all ur sutffs..

mind sharing ur experience? rclxub.gif


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when u cage her during ur work .. she got pee poo in the cage ?
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the 1st week she did pee in the cage, now no more liao.....
Whenever she's in the cage, no pee and poo, when i release her, she'll fast fast run to the correct place to pee. Mostly pee 2 times then only finish, meaning pee once, then run away, sniff sniff, run back then pee 2nd time after holding 8 hours pee.
BUT....if she sees a stranger, she'll become super excited, tail wag super fast, then sure pee one. I kena many times liao, when my fren come look for me, FIFI saw them, rush to them, with a pee track on the floor.......
I also dunno how to deal wif it, hope that when she grow up, she'll be better lah.

QUOTE(andyfriends @ May 18 2007, 08:48 AM)
how old is ur fifi?

wat time do u reach hom,e?


Added on May 18, 2007, 8:51 am

Thanks for ur detailed information

btw how old is ur puppy?
if u let her alone in the house uncage, there is also a possibility of her pee n poo everywhere rite?

is even worst if she bites all ur sutffs..

mind sharing ur experience?  rclxub.gif
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My FIFI now is 4 months old loh. Nowadays for working ppl, confirm work more than working hours one lah. Mostly I reach home earliest 6.30pm. Sometimes 7.30pm.
For me lah, whenever I'm out, I'll cage FIFI,coz scared she'll bite things like wires.....now she is teething, so always bite here bite there.......
IMO, u need to cage-train the puppy,just to save u from trouble.
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ May 18 2007, 10:42 AM)
the 1st week she did pee in the cage, now no more liao.....
Whenever she's in the cage, no pee and poo, when i release her, she'll fast fast run to the correct place to pee. Mostly pee 2 times then only finish, meaning pee once, then run away, sniff sniff, run back then pee 2nd time after holding 8 hours pee.
oh when u 1st trained her how old was she?
sigh my timetable damn tight man
study from 9-9pm intensive class
ned to go out atleast 7am to avoid d jam
sigh dono if i can get d puppy since scared he cant tahan sad.gif

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ai yo.. so ke lian.. u keep hamster bah... hehehe
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oh when u 1st trained her how old was she?
sigh my timetable damn tight man
study from 9-9pm intensive class
ned to go out atleast 7am to avoid d jam
sigh dono if i can get d puppy since scared he cant tahan sad.gif
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dun worry lah, if he cant tahan he will pee and poo in the cage one lah.....Below the cage got tray mah....
But just make sure u feed him enuf, and when u back home, provide ample play time for him, then should be ok lah...

Or like Mochi says, keep hamster loh...haha........can find me for hamster also, haha..........
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ May 18 2007, 05:58 PM)
dun worry lah,  if he cant tahan he will pee and poo in the cage one lah.....Below the cage got tray mah....
But just make sure u feed him enuf, and when u back home, provide ample play time for him, then should be ok lah...

Or like Mochi says, keep hamster loh...haha........can find me for hamster also, haha..........
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ya i know he can pee in the cage but i dun wan to make it as a habit ma
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eh wan to ask how many times u all feed ur under 12mths puppy,and also when the dog reach 1yr..

how long shld i seperate first meal and second meal?

chicken and rice or lamb and rice?
wads the diff?
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ May 30 2007, 11:07 PM)
eh wan to ask how many times u all feed ur under 12mths puppy,and also when the dog reach 1yr..

how long shld i seperate first meal and second meal?

chicken and rice or lamb and rice?
wads the diff?
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Well... it depends... chicken is easy to digest.... but lamb is good for skin.

A puppy would need 3 to 4 meals a day. You just divide to your own timing..... all the meals should be small.... follow the amount on the dogfood bag, it has directions on how much to feed 1 day.
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but i dunoe how to agar agar noe the amount lei..
read frm the site of NUTRIEdGE
1/4 to 1½= how much? doh.gif

measuring cup got state ?
is it when the puppy whine for food then i giv la.. but muz limit 3-4 meals a day. shld i buy those milk formula for it also? wad are the other supplements shld i give?
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but i dunoe how to agar agar noe the amount lei..
read frm the site of NUTRIEdGE
1/4 to 1½= how much? doh.gif

measuring cup got state ?
is it when the puppy whine for food then i giv la.. but muz limit 3-4 meals a day. shld i buy those milk formula for it also? wad are the other supplements shld i give?
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Yes, you can get the cup from any petshop. I also follow cup tongue.gif

Anyway, don't give food when the puppy make noise... give proper timing.... say 7am or 8am.... then 2pm... then 8pm.... up to you to adjust the time.... but also this depends on the size of the pup. If you need better info, it is best to ask a vet when and how much to feed coz sometimes a pup may be weak in health, so need more meals....

No need, a 8 week old pup doesn't need milk anymore. Do not spoil the puppy, later when older it will make you headache with feeding.

Supplements, normally I advice people just give a little bit of fish oil, that is enough. Coz the dogfood already got vitamins and minerals, if you give more, it can make their health worst than make them healthy. Still, always ask a vet first about the supplements and mention the brand to the vet before buying....
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1. i think if ur brand gives u da measurement cup den it should be stated there, or elz u can try giving a lil, if da pup finishes in a few minutes, den u try giving a lil bit more. den u observe how much da pup can eat.

2. don wait til it whine for food, u set da time, don let da dog set da time or elz later u hv 2 follow his schedule. 3 meals like 9am, 2pm, 9pm should b ok..

3. should buy milk formula if pup is less than 2 n half months old or da pup whine for milk[refuses 2 eat da kibbles]. mostly breeder/ petshops will sell pups when they can take kibbles..so jus soak da kibbles wif warm water b4 feeding. milk can b take as may supper or morning high tea, if u'd like to.

4. supplements like fish oil, flex seed oil, calcium, vitaminB can b given. dosage according 2 da label lor.


Added on May 30, 2007, 11:29 pmbtw now pet's family in tmn megah got giv free cups, from eukanuba. hehe.

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izit alright to give a puppy 1st jab or vaccinate earlier than weeks ??

say 7 weeks old..
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Pets Family give eukunoba cup meh?? Last time i got was Science Plan CUp wor.....
But anyway, i think more or less the same lah.
I got one from Pets Family, the one from the vet, but din use also, haha..........
I only use those Chinese soup spoon, 2 spoons full for FIFI each meal.

QUOTE(mudz @ May 31 2007, 01:24 AM)
izit alright to give a puppy 1st jab or vaccinate earlier than  weeks ??

say 7 weeks old..
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Deworm at 4 weeks old.

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i just got a shih tzu 2 weeks ago.. now he's 2 months old.. i still have problem potty train him.. i tried putting newspaper but he likes to bite it! i used doggy pad, he won't do his business there.. he doesn't even sniff it! i used a cloth to wipe his pee and leave it on the newspaper, he still pee everywhere! am running out of ideas.. whenever i see him finding a spot to pee or poo, i took him to the newspaper.. he won't do it there BUT instead after letting him go, he'd pee on the floor.. pls help!!!! *sigh*
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nothing much can be done, all the steps are listed in this thread. I train my puppy by following all the steps here and it works, she's a shih tzu also by the way.
Just repeat and repeat loh.
WHen he bites paper, say NO....then push him a bit.
See him sniff sniff wanna pee or poo at wrong spot, again NO.......push him a bit, then bring him to the paper. After finish, treats.
U ask others also the same answer will be given lah, just follow watever in this thread ok lah.....
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QUOTE(mudz @ May 31 2007, 01:24 AM)
izit alright to give a puppy 1st jab or vaccinate earlier than  weeks ??

say 7 weeks old..
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1st Jab on 8weeks follow by 11weeks, 14weeks then annual booster.

Deworm puppy starting from 2weeks, 4weeks, 8weeks, 12weeks then every 3months once.


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QUOTE(nicole_nic81 @ May 31 2007, 09:29 AM)
i just got a shih tzu 2 weeks ago.. now he's 2 months old.. i still have problem potty train him.. i tried putting newspaper but he likes to bite it! i used doggy pad, he won't do his business there.. he doesn't even sniff it! i used a cloth to wipe his pee and leave it on the newspaper, he still pee everywhere! am running out of ideas.. whenever i see him finding a spot to pee or poo, i took him to the newspaper.. he won't do it there BUT instead after letting him go, he'd pee on the floor.. pls help!!!! *sigh*
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Still so young. Atleast another 5months time the pup will be well train.


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can i leave my doggie for someone to train?
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ May 31 2007, 09:06 AM)
Pets Family give eukunoba cup meh?? Last time i got was Science Plan CUp wor.....
But anyway, i think more or less the same lah.
I got one from Pets Family, the one from the vet, but din use also, haha..........
I only use those Chinese soup spoon, 2 spoons full for FIFI each meal.
If not mistaken lah, normally puupy should take the 1st jab at 8 weeks old coz their immune system already built up.
Deworm at 4 weeks old.
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eh eh soli soli..its science plan..
now kitty cup..dat day got doggy cup but got ppl selfish took few den abis..


Added on May 31, 2007, 10:46 amnicole_nic91 : den da puppy will follow ppl's orders instead of urs..haha.. it wont use up lots of time la..

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er.. can i devorm my puppy myself ??
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of cos u can..
deworming can b in syrup or tablet form..
after 6months old..can giv tablet d.
can buy da syrup in most of da pet shops.
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my puppy is almost 7 months and i think she has ever been dewormed b4 -.-"

will get tat later..just put the tablet in her mouth will do ?
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my puppy is almost 7 months and i think she has ever been dewormed b4 -.-"

will get tat later..just put the tablet in her mouth will do ?
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If i just put the tablet in your mouth, will u spill it out?? of course will lah, bitter one mah.....
U need to put the tablet near the throat, then fast fast close the mouth, then massage abit their throat so to stimulate the swallowing. After u see they lick their mouth, means swallowed.
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some is in flavoured form..
got chicken,beef,liver flavoured 1 ma..
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Those r chewable one mah.....and some say oh, for puppy under 6 months age, better dun give chewable one coz they say its hard to digest wor......some puppies do vomit out, better give tablet or syrup.
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dats y..i stated in my previous post dat pups after 6 months oni take chewable ma..
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any brand also can arh? deworming tablet.
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its da same thing..


Added on May 31, 2007, 7:14 pmi think this will make quite a good link for 1st timers..

http://www.peteducation.com/category_summa...?cls=2&cat=1661

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eh.. my puppy just vomit after i give him his tablet..

those things he vomit out is his food and something in white..


Added on May 31, 2007, 9:56 pmdo i need to bring her to vet ??

sorry double post cuz im very scared now -.-"

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it's ok one.. feed him with his normal kibbles for few days and then only feed him the tablet again...
it's nothing to worry

if the same thing happened again, then bring your pup to the vet..

my baby has the same problem too, but he's ok now even though i didnt bring him to vet
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does this means that her vomit out his tablet??

and i have to feed her once more??
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i think after 2day oni feed her lor.
is da tablet too big?
too hard 2 swallow?
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or....mayb during the time u give her the tablet, u poke too deep to her throat and end up she vomit???
Btw, the white color thing she vomitted out, u need to take note oh. Coz my breeder fren told me that, if a puppy got too many worms inside, there is a chance of it vomit worms out!!! imagine how gross..........
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or....mayb during the time u give her the tablet, u poke too deep to her throat and end up she vomit???
Btw, the white color thing she vomitted out, u need to take note oh. Coz my breeder fren told me that, if a puppy got too many worms inside, there is a chance of it vomit worms out!!! imagine how gross..........
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it's true.... the vomit will be very smelly.... A kitten vomited on me and a worm came out. I didn't even deworm the kitten coz just found it stray and was on the way home in the car.... I was really grossed out...
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yer... worm.. is it like earthworm? how do i noe the dog i buy had been deworm b4? is it in the vaccination card?
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or....mayb during the time u give her the tablet, u poke too deep to her throat and end up she vomit???
Btw, the white color thing she vomitted out, u need to take note oh. Coz my breeder fren told me that, if a puppy got too many worms inside, there is a chance of it vomit worms out!!! imagine how gross..........
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but den she vomit after half or 1 hour after i feed her the tablet wor..

and i dunno how deep i shud poke.. if not deep enuf she wont swallow the tablet..
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somewhere where u open da mouth n u can still see da tablet. den close her mouth tight n let go oni after she swallowed.
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EH...
OMG.. the reply i post up there is wrong..

my puppy is 7 weeks old.. not 7 months..

can she still take tablet ?? or i need to get syrup ??!
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tablet can also, but syrup will be better, easier to feed mah. Just take a syringe, then inject the syrup into their mouth. They will start lick lick and finish them off.
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Take noted. how are they named? deworming syrup ?
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go Pets Family, ask for deworming syrup, then u'll know lah, haha......
My puppies is dewormed by the vet until they got their 3rd jab. The vet use syrup one.
After the 3rd jab, i deworm them myself, and I buy only tablets, cheaper.......
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how much is tablet type. and syrup? thought u say syrup easlier to consume..
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ya, syrup easier, but FIFI now 4months old liao loh......
Actually I'm using this heartworm prevention tablet for FIFI each month.
http://www.choongangbio.com/eng/product/HEARTSAVER.htm
The yellow color one. This tablet also can kill certain type of worms, so no need extra deworm pills. The vet said, if the dog is kept indoor, then should be ok wor......I lazy mah, so buy this type of multi function pills loh, no need to remember so much, haha.........
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ohh if giv the dog heartworm prevention then no need to deworm liao la..
wads heartworm btw? the heartworm shld b given when dog reach 3mths + ?


Added on June 1, 2007, 4:56 pmthe heartsaver says "after infection"?
means if not infected no neeD? blush.gif

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so it means i can still give her tablet after 2 days rite ??

the shopkeeper ask me to give my puppy 1/4 of the tablet only..
izit alright? ?
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Dogs need to take heart worm prevention tablets once a month, for the rest of their lives... unless you take the yearly injection, but the vet I normally go to don't encourage the yearly injection for heart worm.

Anyway, mudz, for a puppy that young, the best is deworming syrup... it's like Rm15 a small bottle, not that expensive and it is less stressful for such a young puppy.

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yea.. i guess i better get the syrup.. i didnt know ther are syrup when i bought the tablet and she struggle alot when i tried to feed her with that tablet..
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Used deworm syrup only on young puppy!!! Not tablet!!!

Deworm puppy starting from 2weeks, 4weeks, 8weeks, 12weeks then every 3months once (you can start giving them tablet form after 12 weeks old or you still can continue finish the deworm syrup you brought).

For monthly heartworm prevention. Start give to your pup when they reach 5 months old!!! No early or late than that age!!!
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my puppy keep biting my hand these few days..

should i just let her be or i should stop her ??
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lol.. its very normal.. u can aPPly white vinegar dilute with water and aPPly on ur fingers and hand then let ur dog lick..
they dun like the taste wan.. slowly they will know ur hand and finger SUX. lol.
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my puppy keep biting my hand these few days..

should i just let her be or i should stop her ??
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obviously have to stop la
dun make it as a habit la
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 3 2007, 12:30 AM)
lol.. its very normal.. u can aPPly white vinegar dilute with water and aPPly on ur fingers and hand then let ur dog lick..
they dun like the taste wan.. slowly they will know ur hand and finger SUX. lol.
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Oh Ok .. Me bad..
Its PURE WHITE VINEGAR!
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but den i feel very comfortable with her licking and nibbing wor -.-""

and i just happen to have white vinegar for my aquarium sand... lol..

what if she bite cloth? shud i stp that also ??
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Stop her from chewing stuff she is not suppose to.... never let dogs get used to chewing hands... this is a bad habit that can become worst when they grow old... it may be comfortable for you but what about visitors who come to your place? Your dog may attack their hands coz you let it chew yours.... so just think about other possibilities as what would happen to others.... don't let your dog develop bad habits.
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ok then.. vineger on my hands d..
6 more days till my bibi 1st vacci..

so looking forward to it.. ^^
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after vacci 1 week don pom pom ar..
i tot deworming should b once every 3weeks?
3weeks, 6weeks, 9weeks..etc..
geve him syrup til he was 6months old, den now tablets.

vacci can b later than da date, but not earlier.
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cannot shower after vaccinate ??
how about a day b4 that ?
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hv 2 shower clean clean lor..
not really kenot shower la..cos after vacci, most of da dogs tend 2 hv fever..dowan them 2 feel more sick o.
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i notice these few days my dog keep scratching her own body..

is that a sign of flea infection ?
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Cool!! at last I finished reading this thread.. 15 pages... sweat.gif I am a silent reader and only create an account last few days. Anyway thanks everyone for the guide on puppy care. I've managed to follow most of the guide by everyone here.

I just got a male GR for 3 weeks, had 1st vaccination, and he's 3 mths old now. He's easily taught (with everyone's guide here). During this 3 weeks, he've learnt 2 basic command, which is "SIT" and "DOWN". Even tho sometimes he's still reluctant, but he do understand the 2 commands.

About toilet training, initially I've managed to get him to pee at the news paper (wake up few time in the midnight and bring him pee/poo at the newspaper) but later on due to time and space constraint, I've not much time to paper train him. Ocasionally he do pee or poo at his sleeping place if can't hold the pee/poo, because I didn't have time to take him to pee/poo, so I'd need to clean it up for him.

Everything goes well but unfortunately he's not feeling well. Diarrhea and eat less. When I first brought him back, he do have diarrhea as well. But that time, I thought that it was because of the new environment that he's not confortable of. After few days of bringing him back, his poo shows sign of improvement. Then it was my mistake to change the dog food completely at that time. He starts to diarrhea again.

Till last few days, I decided to bring him to the vets. Bad news that I have, the vetinerian told me that my GR is showing sign of canine distemper which is have diarrhea, nose discharge, poor apetite, vomiting, foot pad hardened and coughing. Now have medication and boil chicken everyday only. Need to go back to the vets after 7 days to see if there's improvement. If not then the vets told me to prepare for the worst sad.gifsad.gif It's a very sad case.... He's only 3 mths old and need to suffer from this disease... Is that my fault of not getting him to vets earlier ??

Anyone here have any proven/known idea of helping my GR to recover from this disease?
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u do it more, he will understand wan la.. praise in a high pitch.. like ur very very happy with wad he did.. u can also giv treat and giv it favourtie toy.. u wan hug also can .
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QUOTE(kenrain @ Jun 3 2007, 06:07 PM)
Cool!! at last I finished reading this thread.. 15 pages... sweat.gif I am a silent reader and only create an account last few days. Anyway thanks everyone for the guide on puppy care. I've managed to follow most of the guide by everyone here.

I just got a male GR for 3 weeks, had 1st vaccination, and he's 3 mths old now. He's easily taught (with everyone's guide here). During this 3 weeks, he've learnt 2 basic command, which is "SIT" and "DOWN". Even tho sometimes he's still reluctant, but he do understand the 2 commands.

About toilet training, initially I've managed to get him to pee at the news paper (wake up few time in the midnight and bring him pee/poo at the newspaper) but later on due to time and space constraint, I've not much time to paper train him. Ocasionally he do pee or poo at his sleeping place if can't hold the pee/poo, because I didn't have time to take him to pee/poo, so I'd need to clean it up for him.

Everything goes well but unfortunately he's not feeling well. Diarrhea and eat less. When I first brought him back, he do have diarrhea as well. But that time, I thought that it was because of the new environment that he's not confortable of. After few days of bringing him back, his poo shows sign of improvement. Then it was my mistake to change the dog food completely at that time. He starts to diarrhea again.

Till last few days, I decided to bring him to the vets. Bad news that I have, the vetinerian told me that my GR is showing sign of canine distemper which is have diarrhea, nose discharge, poor apetite, vomiting, foot pad hardened and coughing. Now have medication and boil chicken everyday only. Need to go back to the vets after 7 days to see if there's improvement. If not then the vets told me to prepare for the worst sad.gifsad.gif It's a very sad case.... He's only 3 mths old and need to suffer from this disease... Is that my fault of not getting him to vets earlier ??

Anyone here have any proven/known idea of helping my GR to recover from this disease?
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Hmmm.... when you have brought your pup back home, you should have taken straight to the vet for a full check up. Did you get your pup from a puppy dealer or petshop? Coz normally distemper is common in puppy farms.... and this spreads to dealers and petshops....

Well, follow what the vet says, proper treatment and all... I have not experience distemper before so have no idea about the chances of recovery.... but I do know it is dangerous for puppies.

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how to praise?

like keep hugging it?

cause if u praise it by saying good boi good boi..it's not like he could understand right =.=
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full check up include wad? how much?

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I have a Q here. is full check up neccessary if the dog is OK?
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Mine also din give full check, only basic check. I think as long as the dog is ok, then no need gua.....
But of course, full check is better, but a bit expensive loh......
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I think what crazymouse said is true. You won't know whether your
puppy is 100% OK. Like my case, my puppy looks OK but when go to
check up, only realized that he have other sickness as well.

My puppy no more running nose for now. A good sign for him. Hopefully
will be better when I bring him to the vets on this Thursday. nod.gif
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QUOTE(kenrain @ Jun 4 2007, 09:34 AM)
I think what crazymouse said is true. You won't know whether your
puppy is 100% OK. Like my case, my puppy looks OK but when go to
check up, only realized that he have other sickness as well.

My puppy no more running nose for now. A good sign for him. Hopefully
will be better when I bring him to the vets on this Thursday.  nod.gif
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hw much was the bill?
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my vet in my hometown full check up will cost rm80, for 2 dogs. 1 8months old n 1 3months old.

i din go inside n see wat da vet was doing, jus leave da 2 fellow there, den bout half hour or more will b done. hate seeing da vet draw blood from my pup. so don really noe da whole procedure.

i go monthly, cos my 2 pups r like more prone 2 sickness. a while glaucoma, a while sked got joint prob..
better go check up every month, no worries at all.
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Full check wor....2 dogs wor....RM80 cheap loh........ Hometown mana?
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hw much was the bill?
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hometown taiping, perak.
teh o ice kosong oni rm0.20.
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 4 2007, 01:44 PM)
hometown taiping, perak.
teh o ice kosong oni rm0.20.
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No way so cheap
i been there before
i ordered teh ice and it costs me RM 0.80
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poo poo never wipe isit?
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got wipe ar... her ass there very clean wor

and does scratching means flea ??

or they just scratch for fun ?
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got wipe ar... her ass there very clean wor

and does scratching means flea ??

or they just scratch for fun ?
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You need to empty your dog anal gland!!!
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regarding the anl gland....i try to extract the liquid from my shih tzu, but end up nothing. ALthough she din act abnormal, but i just wanna try it out........
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what is anal gland and how to empty it ??!?!??!
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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Jun 4 2007, 01:55 PM)
No way so cheap
i been there before
i ordered teh ice and it costs me RM 0.80
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teh ice of cos rm0.80 ler..
i say teh oh ice kosong o..
here de teh ice go where find rm0.80..
all above rm1.50 kua.

food accomodation there all cheap..vet services too~

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i just google and i found out wher to press..

a little bit of liquid like in brown colour came out.. Darn SMELLY..
does that mean i have clean her anal gland ??

http://www.barkbytes.com/medical/med0029.htm
see this for more info..

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?? eek.. wad is it? u press her ass and sai come out?? wad is anal gland???


Added on June 6, 2007, 1:47 amok.. done with the info thing.

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is ther something that could help me to train my dog's pee and poo ??

my puppy can learn sit in 3 days and hand in 1 day but she cant seem to learn where should she do her business..
i follow all the instructions from page 1 and she still pee and poo elsewhere sometimes..
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mine learnt 2 sit in 2days, learn 2 stand in 1day..
after half year dunno where 2 poo.

sigh.
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is ther something that could help me to train my dog's pee and poo ??

my puppy can learn sit in 3 days and hand in 1 day but she cant seem to learn where should she do her business..
i follow all the instructions from page 1 and she still pee and poo elsewhere sometimes..
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 6 2007, 10:50 AM)
mine learnt 2 sit in 2days, learn 2 stand in 1day..
after half year dunno where 2 poo.

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u all can train them sit and come in 2,3 days, whereas mine need to 2 weeks to learn SIT and COME........
Pee take 3 weeks, poo take 2 months..........
really not consistant........

jaunty,
wat u mean by after half yr dunno where to poo? Meaning before that knows where to poo, but after 6months, simply poo?? rclxub.gif
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depends on his mood.
da small one knows where 2 poo n pee, but sometimes on my bed.
da big one only goes into da cage 2 poop n pee when its totally clean.
even a small single lil piece of poop he wont step into da cage.

been whacking him for half a year, n yet he still don wanna listen.
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......thats y shih tzu really stubborn one....sometimes act cute, really sayang them. but sometimes when they give u trouble, really wanna kick them.

jack jack poo in the cage ah?? so at nite where u keep them?? where they sleep? where they r placed when u r not around?? not the cage meh??

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Each dog and pup got their own timing... some may take a few days to learn, stubborn ones take more than a few months. Please, Mudz, you must remember, you pup in particular is very young. Separated from the mom too early so it had no chance to learn where to pee and poo correctly also. Normally pups taken away at a very young age from their mom or are at petshops take a longer time to paper train since no one teaches them properly. All you can do is be consistent, be patient when training and always do it the proper way.
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yea.. i guess u are right.. gonna take her for her 1st vacci on tis saturday..
and my puppy sure show innocent face when i scold her.. what else i shoud teach now that she has mastered sit and hand ??

izit possible to teach my puppy to dance ??
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yeap.
of cos can teach her 2 dance..
my jack jack can sing when some1 whistle 2 him..

mayb u can teacher her "come" "fetch" "stay"..

ya jack n xun poop n wee in da cage, wif a tray..so everytime hv 2 wash da tray..
at nite sleep in my room, but da cage is outside. they'll sleep when we're asleep, when we wake up oni they will go out n poo wee..

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when they are in ur room sleeping, they no need to pee poo in the middle of the nite wan ar?
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i wonder y but they never kacau me 2 open da door..
they din pee or poo o..
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wah so gd ah.. or they know how to open the door go outside. lol .
they can hold till so long meh.. they are still young rite.
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erm..i dunno y when i sleep they oso sleep..
never kacau except when they're hungry...
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erm..i dunno y when i sleep they oso sleep..
never kacau except when they're hungry...
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so good.......i also try let FIFI sleep in my room (not in cage) before for 3 days. The 1st 2 days ok, i sleep she sleep, i wake she bising, wan food.
Then the 3rd day, when i wake up, got pee stain on the floor.........she peed there middle of the nite. So no more!!! Back to the cage, but still in my room lah, haha.........
I try this during weekend. But later when FIFI grown up a bit, like 6 months old, mayb will try again.
FIFI will not kacau me for pee or poo, but will kacau me when wanna play and wan food. But normally when she is hungry, is time for her to pee and poo also. So see me wake up, excited, then u know wat happen next............ doh.gif Need to clean the floor loh......
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till now she sees u gets excited n pee?
mine oni pee when see strangers..
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 7 2007, 11:31 AM)
till now she sees u gets excited n pee?
mine oni pee when see strangers..
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Can say like this lah, see me 10 times when i back from work, pee 1 time.
See strangers 10 times, pee 9 times...... doh.gif
She purposely hold the pee one when got food or see something interesting. Not like if wann pee and poo, go finish the business then only continue.....

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sO cute lar.. over excited pee disease.. lol...
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haha..
its a disease ar?
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haha..
its a disease ar?
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No it is not a disease, some timid dogs like Golden Retrievers and such has this kind of problem when they are younger. It will go away when they get older but some cases, they never go away.

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haha no la i was juz joking..lol..
was imagining the scene of a shih tze running excitely den pee come out in a row. lol.
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No it is not a disease, some timid dogs like Golden Retrievers and such has this kind of problem when they are younger. It will go away when they get older but some cases, they never go away.
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haha no la i was juz joking..lol..
was imagining the scene of a shih tze running excitely den pee come out in a row. lol.
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It will seldom come out in a row. Normally will like, when the door is open, stranger come in. Then she will rush to the stranger, tail wag super fast, ly down, lick or nib ur toes, then shhshh...............without the pee movement. The lower part of her body all kena, then she'll jump here jump there wanna play, pee stain all over the floor.....u imagine lah.
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OH MY GOD! doh.gif
then how? u gona wash her? her fur smelly le...
guess u must everyday mop the floor... LOL
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Jun 7 2007, 11:27 AM)
so good.......i also try let FIFI sleep in my room (not in cage) before for 3 days. The 1st 2 days ok, i sleep she sleep, i wake she bising, wan food.
Then the 3rd day, when i wake up, got pee stain on the floor.........she peed there middle of the nite. So no more!!! Back to the cage, but still in my room lah, haha.........
I try this during weekend. But later when FIFI grown up a bit, like 6 months old, mayb will try again.
FIFI will not kacau me for pee or poo, but will kacau me when wanna play and wan food. But normally when she is hungry, is time for her to pee and poo also. So see me wake up, excited, then u know wat happen next............  doh.gif  Need to clean the floor loh......
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Hahaha.... slowly train Fifi.... she will grow up to be a good shih tzu lah. Last time my male shih tzu, won't simply pee around. Even as a pup, he will tahan till someone let him outside. When he was a puppy, we used to cage him but he never once pee or poo in his cage as a pup. When older, he knows how to open cage so we instead tie him up at night.... later, I manjakan him lah, let him sleep in my room. He will sleep on his own pillow.... but will never pee or poo in my room. He will make the whining sound to wake me up when he wanna pee. Got once I babysit my friend's shih tzu mix poodle, pee everywhere in my room hahahah. Then now my ckcs, when got her at 5 months, pee on my bed and poo in my room.... damn naughty... she only stopped doing those things when around 1 year old. Only sometimes she cannot tahan, she will pee and poo on the floor, still ok lah.

About the peeing when see visitor.... this happened to my grandpa's dog... as a pup, he gets excited when see me or new people.... and when he is excited, he jumps... and when he jumps, he pees.... so you can imagine, it felt like water pistol shooting pee at our legs.... very scary.... this habit stopped when he reached 1 year old...
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omg -.- 1 whole year just to teach them pee and poo -.-""

i tot it could be taught in a month time.. more cleaning work to do i guess.. haha
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This is why I said before mah, some dogs can learn in a few days, some a few weeks, some a few months and some a year.... coz it depends on the individual puppy, whether stubborn or slow learner or fast learner.
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mine damn stubborn n slow.
jus picked up all their poo after i went for ocean's thirteen in cineplex.
da floor fulled wif poop..
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thought u say they know to go to the cage for the bis ?

ps.. u juz came back frm cineplex huh.. hows the ocean thirteen.. biggrin.gif

wondering u all pick up ler got wash the area anot. lol
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ocean was nice..

they noe where 2 poop.
but depends on their mood.
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U juz use tissue to wipe the area or got clean wan?
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My shih tzu took a month to learn how to pee/poo on the paper.
But he's fine now,
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It takes patience la.
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My dog is considered a fast learner but I dont have much time to teach him. Anyway, he learn to do his business on newspaper about 4 months after I got him.

4 newspaper, size of The Star, scattered in 2 by 2 size. But sometimes, he still miss. When I let him out, he sometimes misfire on the floor also. But now big already, he also dont pee / poo that often so not so stress while wiping off the floor.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jun 7 2007, 07:24 PM)
Hahaha.... slowly train Fifi.... she will grow up to be a good shih tzu lah. Last time my male shih tzu, won't simply pee around. Even as a pup, he will tahan till someone let him  outside. When he was a puppy, we used to cage him but he never once pee or poo in his cage as a pup. When older, he knows how to open cage so we instead tie him up at night.... later, I manjakan him lah, let him sleep in my room. He will sleep on his own pillow.... but will never pee or poo in my room. He will make the whining sound to wake me up when he wanna pee. Got once I babysit my friend's shih tzu mix poodle, pee everywhere in my room hahahah. Then now my ckcs, when got her at 5 months, pee on my bed and poo in my room.... damn naughty... she only stopped doing those things when around 1 year old. Only sometimes she cannot tahan, she will pee and poo on the floor, still ok lah.

About the peeing when see visitor.... this happened to my grandpa's dog... as a pup, he gets excited when see me or new people.... and when he is excited, he jumps... and when he jumps, he pees.... so you can imagine, it felt like water pistol shooting pee at our legs.... very scary.... this habit stopped when he reached 1 year old...
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FIFI also never pee and poo in the cage. Later wanna train her sleep in room and not pee in my room. Hope she will be a good shih tzu lah, hehe......

QUOTE(carenys55 @ Jun 8 2007, 12:55 AM)
My shih tzu took a month to learn how to pee/poo on the paper.
But he's fine now,
knows what to do already.
It takes patience la.
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If no one kacau her, no special ocassion, did not see or smell food, she 100% pee and poo at rite place.
If not, she'll rather go play first, then only pee. So during play time, might shoot a few drops of pee on the floor. Then when go pee at paper, after finish, fast fast jump of, ending the pee splash around the paper, on the floor, on her feet........ doh.gif
But anyway, still love her lah, coz sometimes she is really adorable, especially when she's sleepy, very manja one, haha.....

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 8 2007, 12:47 AM)
U juz use tissue to wipe the area or got clean wan?
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when i was about 2 reply these posts..he pooped n he licked them..dunno whether he ate or not..wonder y til now he still eats his poop.. i'll use spray cleaner..spray on da floor, den wipe it off..if its too dirty, i'll wipe, den mop da floor.

QUOTE(carenys55 @ Jun 8 2007, 12:55 AM)
My shih tzu took a month to learn how to pee/poo on the paper.
But he's fine now,
knows what to do already.
It takes patience la.
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lucky u..i'm not dat lucky though..

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My dog is considered a fast learner but I dont have much time to teach him. Anyway, he learn to do his business on newspaper about 4 months after I got him.

4 newspaper, size of The Star, scattered in 2 by 2 size. But sometimes, he still miss. When I let him out, he sometimes misfire on the floor also. But now big already, he also dont pee / poo that often so not so stress while wiping off the floor.
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newspapers wee wee wont leak?
or da black ink will stain da floor?
if i put papers on da floorr..gone..they'll eat them up..
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 09:59 AM)
when i was about 2 reply these posts..he pooped n he licked them..dunno whether he ate or not..wonder y til now he still eats his poop.. i'll use spray cleaner..spray on da floor, den wipe it off..if its too dirty, i'll wipe, den mop da floor.
lucky u..i'm not dat lucky though..
newspapers wee wee wont leak?
or da black ink will stain da floor?
if i put papers on da floorr..gone..they'll eat them up..
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Newspaper wont leak provided you be generous with it. I put like 20 pieces each on a 2x2, each slightly overlapping one another and mop the floor twice a day.

The black ink wont stain the floor because at most, the pee with soak only through 5 - 8 pieces of paper unless you leave it too long, then you are asking for trouble, the whole newspaper will soak through.

If they eat the newspaper, means that they dont have anything to chew. Please buy him some Greenies or Denta-Stix to chew. It is good for his teeth, stronger, less smelly, etc.
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I place the newspaper on a tray, so wont dirty the floor. Then i place a piece on non-slip mat on top of the paper now. The pee on the newspaper wont soaked into the paper fast rite, so easy to kena the leg and splash on the floor. If got the non slip mat on top, not easy to kena leg, and beause got weight ontop of the paper, the paper wont fly again, and wont splash on the florr easily. For poo, if i notice FIFI wanna poo, I'll just place a piece of tissue below her but, let the poo drop on it, then pick up, buang.
If i din noticed her, still she will poo on the mat. But her poo hard mah, so wont stain the mat, just pick up, bungkus, then kasih buang..........
I wash and sun the mat every Saturday to keep it clean.
If FIFi is allowed to run free the house, she wont chew the newspaper. If i put her in the play pen, which is near the paper,although got 3 or 4 toys for her, she still will drag the paper in, then tear it, makan also.
If i put her in the play pen, then she poo in it, she will makan poo also. If outside, she wont.......
I think because she is boring, nothing to do.....so find special things to do.
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 8 2007, 10:08 AM)
Newspaper wont leak provided you be generous with it. I put like 20 pieces each on a 2x2, each slightly overlapping one another and mop the floor twice a day.

The black ink wont stain the floor because at most, the pee with soak only through 5 - 8 pieces of paper unless you leave it too long, then you are asking for trouble, the whole newspaper will soak through.

If they eat the newspaper, means that they dont have anything to chew. Please buy him some Greenies or Denta-Stix to chew. It is good for his teeth, stronger, less smelly, etc.
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20 piesces means very thick lor..
i don hv enuf space 2 put so much papers..staying wif another 4 housemates..660ft oni da apartment..

papers r their favourite toy..
i bought plastic toy shoes, jerhigh snacks, alpo snacks, rubber toys, kids' pacifiers.. they play wif them very often..but once they see a piece of paper on da floor..will end up..
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bad experience wif greenies..
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 8 2007, 01:22 AM)
My dog is considered a fast learner but I dont have much time to teach him. Anyway, he learn to do his business on newspaper about 4 months after I got him.

4 newspaper, size of The Star, scattered in 2 by 2 size. But sometimes, he still miss. When I let him out, he sometimes misfire on the floor also. But now big already, he also dont pee / poo that often so not so stress while wiping off the floor.
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Why don't you buy a tray size of 3 x 4 feet and put the new paper on it. It will be much more easy for you to clean the tray than mopping the floor.
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Jun 8 2007, 10:24 AM)
I place the newspaper on a tray, so wont dirty the floor. Then i place a piece on non-slip mat on top of the paper now. The pee on the newspaper wont soaked into the paper fast rite, so easy to kena the leg and splash on the floor. If got the non slip mat on top, not easy to kena leg, and beause got weight ontop of the paper, the paper wont fly again, and wont splash on the florr easily. For poo, if i notice FIFI wanna poo, I'll just place a piece of tissue below her but, let the poo drop on it, then pick up, buang.
If i din noticed her, still she will poo on the mat. But her poo hard mah, so wont stain the mat, just pick up, bungkus, then kasih buang..........
I wash and sun the mat every Saturday to keep it clean.
If FIFi is allowed to run free the house, she wont chew the newspaper. If i put her in the play pen, which is near the paper,although got 3 or 4 toys for her,  she still will drag the paper in, then tear it, makan also.
If i put her in the play pen, then she poo in it, she will makan poo also. If outside, she wont.......
I think because she is boring, nothing to do.....so find special things to do.
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I think I can imagine your set up. I had a non-slip mat too but then I decided not to use it because its quite troublesome. It's heavy, the pee goes through and soak the newspaper. It smells later on so I decided to use the non-slip mat as a platform for him to stand properly while showering, so he does not slip and fall.

Casper wont eat his poo. He pees and poos on the papers. Poo never miss but pee sometimes he will miss. He still havent take up one leg to pee, squat and pee even though he is a male. 7 months old.

Yes, if pee on newspaper, quite easy kena leg but my play pen is fixed to the cage. My setup is [Cage]==| . I put 4 pieces of play pen, two on each side. This way, my house dog is like a runway. I place the newspaper furthest away from his cage. So its [cage][play place][newspaper].


QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 10:30 AM)
20 piesces means very thick lor..
i don hv enuf space 2 put so much papers..staying wif another 4 housemates..660ft oni da apartment..

papers r their favourite toy..
i bought plastic toy shoes, jerhigh snacks, alpo snacks, rubber toys, kids' pacifiers.. they play wif them very often..but once they see a piece of paper on da floor..will end up..
swt..
bad experience wif greenies..
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Yea, it is quite thick. 20 pieces is quite thick correct, its better to let the dog use than to sell off to the old-newspaper-man.

I think you should train your dog not to bite paper. My dog used to do that, damn teruk some more. When I bought the wee wee pads from White Palace. I put 4 pieces in the evening and overnight, all become cotton flying around the house cause he rip it to shreds. Thats why I decided to use newspaper, cheaper and thicker, harder to bite.

I think you just need to find more things to put into the cage so he does not bite. Else, use the newspaper to scare him. Then he wont pee on newspaper, right? After that, place the newspaper on the ground, over the span of 3 - 5 days, always lure him to the newspaper with treats. As long as he step on the newspaper, just treat him. This way my dog stopped biting the papers already.


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Why don't you buy a tray size of 3 x 4 feet and put the new paper on it. It will be much more easy for you to clean the tray than mopping the floor.
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Where to buy ah?? I never seen something that big before but I would like to purchase it if you can tell me where I can find one. Thanks.

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will try 2nite..
damn tired washing those trays..
sked my housemates don like cos if poo pee on da papers sure got smell..
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 09:59 AM)
when i was about 2 reply these posts..he pooped n he licked them..dunno whether he ate or not..wonder y til now he still eats his poop.. i'll use spray cleaner..spray on da floor, den wipe it off..if its too dirty, i'll wipe, den mop da floor.
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y dogs like to lick or eat their own poo.. spray cleaner isit those buy frm supermarket, like easy off bang? lol.. or those housebreaking aid? so tat the dog wont go back to the wrong place to poo again.

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i dunno y my both pups oso squat wor..

i buy those from giant.. biocare green colour thingy..
easy 2 clean off..housebreaking aids r too expensive..
wanted 2 use vinegar but i;'ll vomit everytime i smell it..
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 02:30 PM)
i dunno y my both pups oso squat wor..

i buy those from giant.. biocare green colour thingy..
easy 2 clean off..housebreaking aids r too expensive..
wanted 2 use vinegar but i;'ll vomit everytime i smell it..
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jack jack also squat ah??? almost 1 yr old liao wor....mature loh wor....no marking here n there meh?

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wth!!!

mature liao will do marking??!!

i din noe dat..


he's 8months old now..
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is it really true that male dogs will open one leg up to pee when they reach adulthood ?? ?_?
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Jun 8 2007, 02:52 PM)
is it really true that male dogs will open one leg up to pee when they reach adulthood ?? ?_?
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yo syrian , long time no chat with u on schnauzer thread, so u bck from hometown edi?
or still at hometown ?

hmm i mention tat my friend shihtzu mix around 1 yrs old then open one leg and pee edi wo

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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 02:46 PM)
wth!!!

mature liao will do marking??!!

i din noe dat..
he's 8months old now..
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Of course lah...but still can be trained....thats y i bought a female mah.......
But female got heat problem also, but nvrmind, only for 3 weeks.

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is it really true that male dogs will open one leg up to pee when they reach adulthood ?? ?_?
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Yes ah. Unless u neutered the male dog at around 6 months old, before he matured, then will continue squat down and pee.
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QUOTE(chrisoys @ Jun 8 2007, 11:30 AM)
I got 2pcs of 3 x 4 tray from Pet Safari at Ikano. I place an order about few month only got it. I think not many ppls are looking for a tray. Usually tray come with cage that why petshop don't sell or order this stock separately.

You can go to Ikano Pet Safari and check it out whether they still got the try or not. They place the tray at the back of the shop near where they put all the cages for sales.
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Ok, coincidentally, I am going there tomorrow, I will be sure to check it out. thank you.

QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 8 2007, 11:42 AM)
y dogs like to lick or eat their own poo.. spray cleaner isit those buy frm supermarket, like easy off bang? lol.. or those housebreaking aid? so tat the dog wont go back to the wrong place to poo again.


Added on June 8, 2007, 11:50 ampENNYwise how u train ur male dog to squat when peeing ?
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From what I read, some dogs didnt digest their food properly, so what go in will come out and when come out, still got food smell, so go in a second time.

If keep go in and out non stop, then you only need to feed your dog once a month! hehe... Housebreaking aid never works. You are better off without them but some ppl do claim it works. So far, I tried 2, never worked even a bit.

I didnt train him to squat, he memang pee like that since day 1 he was brought home.
QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 02:30 PM)
i dunno y my both pups oso squat wor..

i buy those from giant.. biocare green colour thingy..
easy 2 clean off..housebreaking aids r too expensive..
wanted 2 use vinegar but i;'ll vomit everytime i smell it..
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Biocare green color thing? What is that? Tray is it?

QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 8 2007, 02:46 PM)
wth!!!

mature liao will do marking??!!

i din noe dat..
he's 8months old now..
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Yea, I think 4 more months and he will start making every vertical object, that time have to be strict. My Westie also 7 months liao. 5 more months to go before he turns into terror!

QUOTE(Syrian @ Jun 8 2007, 02:52 PM)
is it really true that male dogs will open one leg up to pee when they reach adulthood ?? ?_?
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Yes, I believe that to be true but yet to be seen. Hahaha...
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Jun 8 2007, 03:47 PM)
Of course lah...but still can be trained....thats y i bought a female mah.......
But female got heat problem also, but nvrmind, only for 3 weeks.
Yes ah. Unless u neutered the male dog at around 6 months old, before he matured, then will continue squat down and pee.
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Oh God.. heat for 3 wks? shocking.gif
can neuter the male dog at such a young age meh? not 1 yrs old?
is it true after neutered he will continue squat down?

QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 8 2007, 04:43 PM)
From what I read, some dogs didnt digest their food properly, so what go in will come out and when come out, still got food smell, so go in a second time.

If keep go in and out non stop, then you only need to feed your dog once a month! hehe... Housebreaking aid never works. You are better off without them but some ppl do claim it works. So far, I tried 2, never worked even a bit.

I didnt train him to squat, he memang pee like that since day 1 he was brought home.

Biocare green color thing? What is that?  Tray is it?
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we are talking bout use wad to clean the pooped area..
then jaunty said biocare green thing sweat.gif

can any1 tell me wad must be bought b4 getting a pup. wink.gif
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cage, drinking bottle, kibbles, food bowl, grooming brush and comb, a nylon chew bone, 1 or 2 squeeking chew toy.shampoo, conditioner, eye drops, ear drops
others like fish oil supplement and vitamin, treats, carrier box, colar, harness, leash, extra toys, anti-tangle spray,talcum for pets,tear stain remover,wee wee pad,........u see see loh.
Buy the basic one, then i can confirm from the day on, u'll be visiting petshop during weekends(since u r working rite?), and mostly u'll bring back 1 or 2 things for the puppy.

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treats can giv puppy?? thought muz above 1yrs old?
i can visit pet shop during weekdays also can. lol. my house too near pet safari.lol..
ear drops and eye drop muz apply everyday? or after bathe only.
usually when u bathe the dog u must stuff cotton balls inside the ear arh?


Added on June 8, 2007, 5:35 pmif i feed the dog orijen.. muz giv supplements like fish oil also ?


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yeap.
supplements r like..erm supplements..u add on to their nutrition they get from da kibbles. depends on wat u wanna giv..u can choose from brewers's yeast to fish oil and flex seed oils..or u can giv them natural treats, like apples, carrot sticks, or even cottage cheese.

1. biocare is wat i spray da floor n clean it up whenever there r poop stains.. its safe, no nit 2 sked dat my pup will go lick da floor n vomit. had bad experience using dettol, den jack jack went n lick, n vomit white buih. buying those house breaking aids r a bit too costy, cos i'll use up 1 bottle of 700ml every 5weeks.

2. wat joanna said was very very enuf. those r da basic items u hv 2 get for a pup.
cos ur getting poodle or maltese, u hv 2 comb their fur everyday, hence u'll need a comb.

haha i list it out all wat joana said..da most basic things u muz hv when u get ur pup!

grooming:
shampoo , conditioner , comb , nail clipper , cotton buds , ear cleaner , tick control , anti tangle.

place 2 stay:
bed [optional] , cage , food bowl , drinking water , wee wee pad , leash , collar , lisence , toys

food:
kibbles , supplements , treats

some stated in there u can take it as optional, but u hv 2 get it in 2 weeks time. u'll need it later. remember spend lots of time playing wif ur pup o..
i'm feeding orijen now, jus bought from wp..hehe..
still feeding them their vitamins n fruits..
vitamin i take Hartz advance care chewable vitamins.
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The fish oil juz add in the kibbles rite? (how much per bottle)

im getting a pup. do i still need treats? heard frm dunoe where better dun giv puppy treats.

Then i will hav to buy biocare although i bought "easy off bang" lol..
or can use "easy off bang".

comb, wad kind.. those normal 1 isit?

cotton bud for animals? or for human?

the bed i bought 1 in sg. very scared my dog wont use..
if not wasted..

juz wondering if i bought orijen for my dog.. and in case i run out of orijen.. will they eat those holistic brand like eagle pack. innova.. california wadever la. lol.

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fish oil pour a lil into da kibbles..
erm giv a lil treats 2 teach them is okay lor..jus don giv too much till they refuse 2 eat kibbles..
any cleaner will do de..jus to clean da floor wat..but better choose those more organic type. but da ending will b da same if ur pup accidentally drank it..haha..
cotton buds i'm using human ones, cos specially for pets type r very very expensive..i recall da price of rm16.90 for 80buds..

don run outta food..when ur about 2 run outta food, n u cant find orijen, den u buy something 2 mix wif it. or elz sked ur pup wont get use 2 da new kibbles.
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oh.. those comb look alike like my combs. lol..
fish oil in capsules form? how much?
cotton buds isnt too small for the dogs ear? u mean those stick? or juz cotton wool and stuff inside b4 bath?

ya tats wad i mean.. if i run out of food and cant find orijen.. i mix the remaning with eagle pack or other holistic wan .. can hor..
anyway eagle pack any1 try ler mah? hows the result? some say too oily, some say gd..
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its actually your choice wat 2 feed them..
if u feed orijen, den u don hv 2 feed flax seed oil d.
remembered its stated dat..
"OMEGA-3 FATTY ACID: About 42% of flax seed is oil and more than 70% of that oil is polyunsaturated fat, a healthy fat. Flax also contains 57% of the important omega-3 fatty acid, ALA. "




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Hey.. err .. juz wan went to the petshop and saw this shampoo "essential" very cheap only 18.
the shopkeeper says its gd.. how is it?
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haven use it b4..mayb can ask others n see..
better buy those wif tearless or puppy for young pups..
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If not mistaken, all biogroom shampoo is tearless one......I think its a not bad brand lah.....At least better than those tulip brand, and watever brand lah.........
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 8 2007, 05:32 PM)
treats can giv puppy?? thought muz above 1yrs old?
i can visit pet shop during weekdays also can. lol. my house too near pet safari.lol..
ear drops and eye drop muz apply everyday? or after bathe only.
usually when u bathe the dog u must stuff cotton balls inside the ear arh?


Added on June 8, 2007, 5:35 pmif i feed the dog orijen.. muz giv supplements like fish oil also ?
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Mochi,
End of the day, it boils down to how much you love your furkid and how much budget you have for the new pup.

What has been mentioned is true and good enough. You can skip things like nail clippers, tearless shampoo and etc. Get a regular shampoo - I believe not to shower the head for at least the first 5 times showering till they get used to it because once they hate showers, they will play catching with you inside.

Treats can be given to puppy any age. Look at greenies, petite, tiny - different sizes for different breed / age of dogs. Young pups, before even the age of 1, have very itchy teeth, always like to bite things, so the more you buy for them to bite, the better.

After all, if you feed him seldom or not sure if you are giving too little, a treat always help the empty stomach.

Supplements are optional. Its best that you can give it to the pup. Just like how your parents ask you to eat Cod Liver Oil or Vitamins. Its up to you whether to take it - dont have also it wont die. Start later also will not do any harm.

One thing you must prepare before purchasing a furkid is: MONEY.
1. Vaccination
2. Microchipped (if havent)
3. Cage
4. Pillow
5. Balls
6. Toys
7. Dog biscuit
8. Treats
9. Shampoo
10. Comb
11. Conditioner (depends on fur and breed)
12. Ear drops
13. Eye drops ( I would not advise to use it for the first few times, until later like when you already close to him for 2 months)
14. Cotton bud (becareful with these. There was once the cotton came off and stuck inside my Casper's ears)
15. Play pen if you plan to extend his home
16. Cleaning detergent to wipe the floor when he potty (I use Febreze from 99 Supermart)
17. Lots of tissue
18. After 4 - 6 months, first grooming (to make him look nice and got shape)


Basically, overall, you will spend quite a lot so save up on things you dont really need just yet like nail cutter, eye drops, etc.
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Jun 9 2007, 12:09 AM)
If not mistaken, all biogroom shampoo is tearless one......I think its a not bad brand lah.....At least better than those tulip brand, and watever brand lah.........
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since biogroom is good , next time i sure buy biogroom for my furkid tongue.gif


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Mochi,
End of the day, it boils down to how much you love your furkid and how much budget you have for the new pup.

What has been mentioned is true and good enough. You can skip things like nail clippers, tearless shampoo and etc. Get a regular shampoo - I believe not to shower the head for at least the first 5 times showering till they get used to it because once they hate showers, they will play catching with you inside.

OK, so the first 5 times bath dun bathe the head
but i dunoe how to bath the head.. very scared the water goes into the eyes and ear.

Treats can be given to puppy any age. Look at greenies, petite, tiny - different sizes for different breed / age of dogs. Young pups, before even the age of 1, have very itchy teeth, always like to bite things, so the more you buy for them to bite, the better.

noted.. greenies i saw many.. jerhigh can?

After all, if you feed him seldom or not sure if you are giving too little, a treat always help the empty stomach.

Supplements are optional. Its best that you can give it to the pup. Just like how your parents ask you to eat Cod Liver Oil or Vitamins. Its up to you whether to take it - dont have also it wont die. Start later also will not do any harm.

will giv fish oil, as crazy recommanded. lol

One thing you must prepare before purchasing a furkid is: MONEY.
1. Vaccination
2. Microchipped (if havent)
3. Cage
4. Pillow
5. Balls
6. Toys
7. Dog biscuit
8. Treats
9. Shampoo
10. Comb
11. Conditioner (depends on fur and breed)
12. Ear drops
13. Eye drops ( I would not advise to use it for the first few times, until later like when you already close to him for 2 months)14. Cotton bud (becareful with these. There was once the cotton came off and stuck inside my Casper's ears)
15. Play pen if you plan to extend his home16. Cleaning detergent to wipe the floor when he potty (I use Febreze from 99 Supermart)
17. Lots of tissue
18. After 4 - 6 months, first grooming (to make him look nice and got shape)
Basically, overall, you will spend quite a lot so save up on things you dont really need just yet like nail cutter, eye drops, etc.
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pillow? human pillow?

so i can get the eye drop after 2mths sosialising with it..
it doesnt matter much rite?

play pen i wont get la.. coz he got his own room lei.. no need extra la..
plus he will get full roaming ard the house when im ard.

wad does basic grooming include? include cutting nails and clip hair?
how much usually?


Added on June 9, 2007, 12:35 amI answered in bold ah.

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xun-xun's basic is rm15..
jack-jack when small is rm18..
now he's rm35..
basic grooming includes shower, ear hair plucking, ear cleaning, nail clipping, paw fur shaving..

they'll tie da hair 4 u usually..
cutting nails ya..but not hair cutting..
a new hair cut will b around rm70-80..
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new hair style rm80 + basic 35rm=115rm??
or got packages?
tie hair? poodle got tie hair wan arh?
how long the nails shld be clipped.
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 9 2007, 12:31 AM)
pillow? human pillow?

so i can get the eye drop after 2mths sosialising with it..
it doesnt matter much rite?

play pen i wont get la.. coz he got his own room lei.. no need extra la..
plus he will get full roaming ard the house when im ard.

wad does basic grooming include? include cutting nails and clip hair?
how much usually?


Added on June 9, 2007, 12:35 amI answered in bold ah.
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Pillow can be human pillow but the small ones la. Or buy those where ppl put in the car wan, small one which you can find in Jusco for as low as RM5 each.

Eye drop, some people use it but I dont. I dont see the point, YET. Also, my vet told me its a good time to start brushing my furkid teeth. That's additional cost. Haha...

Basic grooming is like RM30 but I have no idea what they do. I only brought my Westie to grooming once at Seapark Pet Supplies, SS2 (same row with Poh Kong). RM70 groom out like cat like that, darn cute. Short short hair, white white, clean clean.

Westies are very much wirey haired and quite rough coat, when he came back from grooming, he look a lot like a white cat but his head only look like dog.

When you are inexperience and not familiar with bathing, try not to shower the head first - just wipe with a wet cloth. When you are more comfortable and your furkid also comfy, then you can start to buy tearless shampoo (I would recommend to start head-shower AFTER you finish your first bottle of shampoo).

Make your pointing-finger and middle-finger to look like a scissors. From the top of his head, point down so the pup nose is in between your fingers (yes, like your fingers going to cut off his nose like that), then slowly pour the water down. This is to ensure that all the water goes down to your fingers which is protecting his nose.

Also, wash the head last. Else, he will go shake like crazy later. Dont la put too much shampoo ya.. Just experiment and make sure no water gets into his ears. Buy those cotton balls from Watson and stuff them into the ears just before you shower the head. They will shake and the cottonballs will fly out but put somemore and hold your doggy so he does not struggle. This is why, familiarity and comfortableness is very important here.

Greenies are mainly sayur and as you know vege is good for your health so, giving him greenies will do him good - poo poo also easier. Like human la, if you eat too much meat, then how? Sometimes, just give him greenies is good but bloody expensive I know.

Fish oil, the bottle says 1 a day but sometimes I give 2. Usually I give them in the morning because oil mer, by at night can burn out liao. If you give in the evening, then go tidur, I think not so good - I dont know if this theory applies but I believe so. My theory ba!

Ok, if got own room, then no need play pen liao. Where do you intend to teach your furkid to do his biz? Also what dog are you getting?
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no la..
if u take full grooming no nit pay basic d..
normally once per month lor..


Added on June 9, 2007, 1:14 amshe's getting a poodle or a maltese..
i think its quite easy to take care of, jus dat poodles r also prone 2 eye diseases..

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 9 2007, 01:04 AM)
Pillow can be human pillow but the small ones la. Or buy those where ppl put in the car wan, small one which you can find in Jusco for as low as RM5 each.

Eye drop, some people use it but I dont. I dont see the point, YET. Also, my vet told me its a good time to start brushing my furkid teeth. That's additional cost. Haha...
Haha.. i got an oral B brush for it.. but its used by me long time ago.lol.
Basic grooming is like RM30 but I have no idea what they do. I only brought my Westie to grooming once at Seapark Pet Supplies, SS2 (same row with Poh Kong). RM70 groom out like cat like that, darn cute. Short short hair, white white, clean clean.

Westies are very much wirey haired and quite rough coat, when he came back from grooming, he look a lot like a white cat but his head only look like dog.

When you are inexperience and not familiar with bathing, try not to shower the head first - just wipe with a wet cloth. When you are more comfortable and your furkid also comfy, then you can start to buy tearless shampoo (I would recommend to start head-shower AFTER you finish your first bottle of shampoo).

AFTER FINish first bottle?? then the head must be darn smelly ~ 1 bottle can last so long.
Make your pointing-finger and middle-finger to look like a scissors. From the top of his head, point down so the pup nose is in between your fingers (yes, like your fingers going to cut off his nose like that), then slowly pour the water down. This is to ensure that all the water goes down to your fingers which is protecting his nose.
dun quite get the idea blush.gif

Also, wash the head last. Else, he will go shake like crazy later. Dont la put too much shampoo ya.. Just experiment and make sure no water gets into his ears. Buy those cotton balls from Watson and stuff them into the ears just before you shower the head. They will shake and the cottonballs will fly out but put somemore and hold your doggy so he does not struggle. This is why, familiarity and comfortableness is very important here.

GoSH! i think i would spend few hours in the toliet juz to bathe the dog! sweat.gif
wad if the water get into it earS?


Greenies are mainly sayur and as you know vege is good for your health so, giving him greenies will do him good - poo poo also easier. Like human la, if you eat too much meat, then how? Sometimes, just give him greenies is good but bloody expensive I know.
How ex is 1 packet?
the brand is it GREENIES?

Fish oil, the bottle says 1 a day but sometimes I give 2. Usually I give them in the morning because oil mer, by at night can burn out liao. If you give in the evening, then go tidur, I think not so good - I dont know if this theory applies but I believe so. My theory ba!
haha.. u got this kinda case b4 isit ..  rolleyes.gif

Ok, if got own room, then no need play pen liao. Where do you intend to teach your furkid to do his biz? Also what dog are you getting?
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getting most probably red toy poodles.. maltese white *scary*.. got white-phobia. sweat.gif
i intend to teach my pup to pee poo at the corner of the room. of coz not near its cage.. any prob with the settings?

QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 9 2007, 01:12 AM)
no la..
if u take full grooming no nit pay basic d..
normally once per month lor..


Added on June 9, 2007, 1:14 amshe's getting a poodle or a maltese..
i think its quite easy to take care of, jus dat poodles r also prone 2 eye diseases..
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Wtf?!?!? u sure? i thought only the dog with eyes tat poped out like shih tze will hav this prob de??
once per mth to nails clipping arh?
but if i were to clip the nails myself .. i wouldnt dare..even though i know im not clipping near the pink nerves i will shiver and dare not press down the clipper.. scared blood will ooze out.. sleep.gif

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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 9 2007, 01:12 AM)
no la..
if u take full grooming no nit pay basic d..
normally once per month lor..


Added on June 9, 2007, 1:14 amshe's getting a poodle or a maltese..
i think its quite easy to take care of, jus dat poodles r also prone 2 eye diseases..
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Once a month is quite 'cedera parah' for my wallet so I only take my Westie to groom every 3 months.

Poodles I dunno but if its Maltese, can ask White Palace ma.


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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 9 2007, 01:49 AM)
getting most probably red toy poodles.. maltese white *scary*.. got white-phobia.  sweat.gif
i intend to teach my pup to pee poo at the corner of the room. of coz not near its cage.. any prob with the settings?
Wtf?!?!? u sure? i thought only the dog with eyes tat poped out like shih tze will hav this prob de??
once per mth to nails clipping arh?
but if i were to clip the nails myself .. i wouldnt dare..even though i know im not clipping near the pink nerves i will shiver and dare not press down the clipper.. scared blood will ooze out.. sleep.gif

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I dunno bout you guys but I actually prefer white furkids. Red or brown or black, not my cup of tea, especially black + fleas = damn difficult to track. Anyway, white furkid, you can tell straightaway if he needs a bath. Hahaha..

Corner of the room? Make sure that corner is quite big lor, at least can fit him because he guarantee wont go to the deepest corner. Roughly sampai that corner, he will lepas liao, so if you are planning to use newspaper (thestar newspaper as in the size), make sure its like this:
[thestar][thestar]
[thestar][thestar]

I will put 4 of them together, yes its quite big and yet he still misses sometimes. And I put about 20 pieces thick. No point saving on those newspaper anyway.

I think one of the very good website is www.dogbreedinfo.com; this site tells you about each breed and prone to what kind of diseases. Does not mean only Shih-Tzu will have eye diseases.

Not clip nail once a month larr... Nail is you clip when you feel he's sliding when he walks or it hurts when he scratches your knee when he comes up for attention. Once a month GROOMING... Means RM70 - 80 per month, can tahan boh? Thats why I prefer to do it 3 months once cause home dog, not show dog - grooming, sendiri cut a bit can already.

Oral B is for human so I dont know if its right for dog. I would go for the dog toothpaste instead just to be sure.

After finish first bottle, yes the head will be quite smelly but always use wet cloth to clean the head lor... Wet cloth, spray some perfume, its alright. I used to do that too. I got my furkid 1st Jan 2007. I only started showering his head on Apr.

About protecting his nose, using your finger, do the 'PEACE!' sign. Then put then upside down and go near your furkid nose and let the nose come inbetween the 'PEACE!' fingers. Then pour water, the water will flow down your fingers and onto the ground without kena the nose, faham?

Greenies is a brand and special type of treats, made out of vege. Go to any pet store and ask, you will see it almost anywhere. Greenies come in the shape of a little toothbrush, cute.

You wont spend so long in the toilet washing your dog wan la, dont be silly. If water get into his ears, wipe IMMEDIATELY. Make sure to keep it dry because when it wet, it will get infection EASILY. Then after shower, apply ear drops (I use this blue color ear drops that smells a bit minty one), then cover the ear flaps (if ur furkid has any) and massage the ear from outside, to make sure the ear drops golek golek inside its ears. Then let him go and he will shake like mad, all the ear dust will come out with the titis ear drops that fly out.

After that, try to use cotton bud and gently clean his ears, dont poke too deep inside. You will see a lot of brown things and this is the cause of dog smells. The most smelly part of a dog is the ears.

The whole eat evening primrose oils or fish oils in the morning, applies to humans so I thought it might apply for doggy also. So oil oil kind of thing, better give in the morning so while during the day they are active, can burn out before storing them become fats. You dont want a fat-dog right?

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okay..nail clipping..
u cut onli da white colour part, not too near to da flesh, which is da pink colour part. leave bout 2mm like dat..
cut when ur pup is sleeping la..

All poodles are prone to eye problems such as cataract and progressive retinal atrophy. The toys and miniatures are prone to patellar subluxation. Epilepsy is another disease that plagues all the poodle varieties.

cataract - A cataract is an opacity that develops in the crystalline lens of the eye or in its envelope.

Progressive retinal atrophy (PRA) - a group of genetic diseases characterized by degeneration of the retina that occurs bilaterally.

patellar subluxation - The kneecap slides up and down a groove on the end of the thigh bone as the knee bends. This groove is called the trochlea. The kneecap is designed to fit in the center of this groove, and slide evenly within the groove. In some people, the kneecap is pulled towards the outside of the knee. As this happens, the kneecap does not slide centrally within its groove.

epilepsy - Seizures are the result of a disturbance in the electrical activity of brain cells. They can occur for a variety of reasons, in any breed of dog. Epilepsy is the term used for recurrent seizures where no underlying disease process can be identified as the cause (also called idiopathic epilepsy).
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Oh yea, just to share an experience about nail cutting. There was once I cut too deep and my furkid bleed. He bark once and stopped, then I immediately bring him wash cold water for a while.

The blood is VERY red and quite a lot came out. I stop and use cloth to press on it for a while, stayed with him a bit. After that, he started licking his paw non-stop.

Do you know that dogs love the smell of blood? I cant be sure but I think it applies for my furkid. Like I recently had an accident and my right elbow is scratch and bleed quite badly, my dog love to come and smell but I wont allow him to lick it - germs.

From then, whenever I nail clip, I will cut very minimal only. No need cut until so short wan. After cut, I just use the nail sharpener on his paws, so it does not hurt when he scratches out thighs / legs.
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ya, i oso don dare 2 cut too deep. last time asked my groomer how 2 cut b4 i 1st cut their nails.

how come they like 2 smell blood?
dats y jack jack went n ate my ex-housemate's roti jam?
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Added on June 9, 2007, 2:08 am
I dunno bout you guys but I actually prefer white furkids. Red or brown or black, not my cup of tea, especially black + fleas = damn difficult to track. Anyway, white furkid, you can tell straightaway if he needs a bath. Hahaha..

haha.. i actually like the teddy bear look of a red toy poodle.

Corner of the room? Make sure that corner is quite big lor, at least can fit him because he guarantee wont go to the deepest corner. Roughly sampai that corner, he will lepas liao, so if you are planning to use newspaper (thestar newspaper as in the size), make sure its like this:
[thestar][thestar]
[thestar][thestar]

i will use wee wee pad, wad do u mean by make sure the corner is quite big, at least can fit him? the corner muz be big enought to fit him? got so big anot the dog.lol.

I will put 4 of them together, yes its quite big and yet he still misses sometimes. And I put about 20 pieces thick. No point saving on those newspaper anyway.

I think one of the very good website is www.dogbreedinfo.com; this site tells you about each breed and prone to what kind of diseases. Does not mean only Shih-Tzu will have eye diseases.

Not clip nail once a month larr... Nail is you clip when you feel he's sliding when he walks or it hurts when he scratches your knee when he comes up for attention. Once a month GROOMING... Means RM70 - 80 per month, can tahan boh? Thats why I prefer to do it 3 months once cause home dog, not show dog - grooming, sendiri cut a bit can already.

Oral B is for human so I dont know if its right for dog. I would go for the dog toothpaste instead just to be sure.

actually got sell Doggy ORAL B wan.. juz tat i saw the doggy oral b same as mine.. lol..

After finish first bottle, yes the head will be quite smelly but always use wet cloth to clean the head lor... Wet cloth, spray some perfume, its alright. I used to do that too. I got my furkid 1st Jan 2007. I only started showering his head on Apr.

err , perfume specially for dogS? cologne? not scared the cologne get into the eyes meh? actually is it gd for the dog as the dog will inhale some in?

About protecting his nose, using your finger, do the 'PEACE!' sign. Then put then upside down and go near your furkid nose and let the nose come inbetween the 'PEACE!' fingers. Then pour water, the water will flow down your fingers and onto the ground without kena the nose, faham?

i understand already.

Greenies is a brand and special type of treats, made out of vege. Go to any pet store and ask, you will see it almost anywhere. Greenies come in the shape of a little toothbrush, cute.

You wont spend so long in the toilet washing your dog wan la, dont be silly. If water get into his ears, wipe IMMEDIATELY. Make sure to keep it dry because when it wet, it will get infection EASILY. Then after shower, apply ear drops (I use this blue color ear drops that smells a bit minty one), then cover the ear flaps (if ur furkid has any) and massage the ear from outside, to make sure the ear drops golek golek inside its ears. Then let him go and he will shake like mad, all the ear dust will come out with the titis ear drops that fly out.

After that, try to use cotton bud and gently clean his ears, dont poke too deep inside. You will see a lot of brown things and this is the cause of dog smells. The most smelly part of a dog is the ears.

do i hav to use hair dryer to dry him? or juz let him air dry?

The whole eat evening primrose oils or fish oils in the morning, applies to humans so I thought it might apply for doggy also. So oil oil kind of thing, better give in the morning so while during the day they are active, can burn out before storing them become fats. You dont want a fat-dog right?
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those fish oils are actually for humans wan isit? no need go pet shop to buy?
wad is the brand of the fish oil? evening primrose i noe.
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Niel- thanks for the info.. and btw jackjack ate ur friend de..err.. sanitary pad arh? soaked with .. blood? shocking.gif

there was once very paiseh situation.. i was walking out my house.. and there were two BIG dogs walking with the owner.. there's quite a distannce u noe.. and the dogs smelt something and run to me.. i was like .. STOOD here.. dun dare to move.. the doggy come and smell "there" .. my face blushed already. lol .
the owner is a guy. doh.gif

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Wee wee pad, you must at least use 4 piece if you were to put in a corner of the room because your furkid will not go to the most corner part of the room wan, roughly nearby only, it will pee liao.

I didnt know got doggy oral B so I have to check that out today or tomorrow at Ikano or somewhere else.

Perfume, spray on the body or spray on the hand and wipe the forehead lor at least, dont apply near the jaw there... Apply at his lower janggut also OK. Inhale is OK wan la, no problems.

I towel dry.

As for fish oil capsule, you can ask any pet store, sure got. For evening prim rose, I dont feed mine but my friend feed her Japanese Spitz evening prim rose for humans. Not regularly though.
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starting 2 feed da both evening primrose oil [EPO]. consulted da vet n they say dat its quite ok for the coat. cut open da capsule n pour da oil on da kibbles. i mix 1 capsules for them per meal. [1 capsules 2 dogs, twice a day]
EPO r much more cheaper than flax seed oil or fish oil, but of cos da quality is different. it provides more vitamin E.
for da skin n coat.

ya jack jack ate da bloody pad.
smelly one. she din pack it nicely n i don think she throw straight into da dustbin dats y jack jack can find it..
when i came bac from college da whole floor fulled wif scraps of bloody pads..

conclusion = don let ur pups touch da pads!!

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starting 2 feed da both evening primrose oil [EPO]. consulted da vet n they say dat its quite ok for the coat. cut open da capsule n pour da oil on da kibbles. i mix 1 capsules for them per meal. [1 capsules 2 dogs, twice a day]
EPO r much more cheaper than flax seed oil or fish oil, but of cos da quality is different. it provides more vitamin E.
for da skin n coat.

ya jack jack ate da bloody pad.
smelly one. she din pack it nicely n i don think she throw straight into da dustbin dats y jack jack can find it..
when i came bac from college da whole floor fulled wif scraps of bloody pads..

conclusion = don let ur pups touch da pads!!
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@@ wah ...whole floor fulled with the scraps of those bloody pads..GOSH ....
cant imagine the picture of the scene how was it look like . Terrible huh ? @@

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i washed them up..da floor n jack jack.
zzz.
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GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF mE, i would Fcuk my friend.. anywhere throw.. #$@#@
it muz b very tiring .. poor thing ..

penny- ok thanks for all the info. smile.gif


Added on June 9, 2007, 6:41 pmjAUNTY- how much u buy the evening primrose oil ? 1 bottle . is it can buy frm pharmacy?

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ya bought from pharmacy..
dunno price cos mum buy 4 me de..
its actually 4 me, but i let my pups take..haha..


ebay ppl selling at rm30 for 50capsules..

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haha.. my mum also got buy.. but is for herself.. lol ..
rm30 for 50cap cheap lei.
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ya lor.
u can curi hers for ur new pup.
haha..
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Haha.. steal frm her ah.. lol .. so bad..
i go her house act like wana visit.. but in fact stealing capslues.. lol..
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but fish oil and primrose which is better?
difference is ?
primerose is for skin and coat.. wad about fish oil?
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jus now saw solid gold brand flax seed oil selling at rm51!
dunno o..read da contains?


Added on June 9, 2007, 11:47 pmEvening primrose oil has a rich content of fatty acids. It also contains campestrol and beta-sitosterol. GLA is converted by the body into prostaglandin - substance that posses properties for controlling inflammation, clotting the blood and synthesizing cholesterol properties. The anti-inflammatory properties of evening primrose provide relief for those suffering from rheumatoid arthritis. It is still unclear as to how much of GLA is produced within the body and how much is enough. Supplements of Evening primrose oil have shown benefits in cases of skin afflictions such as itching, redness and drying.

Flaxseed and flaxseed oil may be indicated in hyperlipidemia, to decrease platelet aggregation, to lower blood pressure, to help prevent heart attacks and stroke, and to ameliorate some of the symptoms of arthritis. There is a suggestion that it may be helpful in some cancers. Claims that it can be useful in the treatment of anxiety, benign prostatic hyperplasia, constipation, vaginitis and weight loss are unsubstantiated.

Studies show fish oil can support the health of canines just like it can with humans. A study published in the Journal of Veterinary Internal Medicine found that dogs with heart failure had lower levels of EPA and DHA than their healthy counterparts. Supplementing with omega 3 oil rich in EPA and DHA improved the survival rates for all dogs.

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No offence here but I tot the food that v r feeding our pups are oredi pack with vitamins n essential minerals, if v feed them xtra, do u thing the dog can absorb it? I feed my dogs with cod liver oil, didnt help much on d fur either.
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did u feed the cod liver oil specially made for the pups?
so far i oni feed human evening primrose oils..
how long hv u been feeding them?

normally oni da kibbles the vitamins n minerals r just enough, dats y there r so many types of supplements all over..
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can giv fish oil together with the primrose oil anot.. haha
i wan gd for coat+skin+lower heart failure..
hehe .
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dat 1 u consult da vet when u 1st bring ur pup2 da doc's visit o..
ask them bout he dosage u should giv ur pup..
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woah, feed so many supplements ah, so sayang ur dogs, haha.........
I only feed them nutristat, which has the omega3 fatty acid. I think its enuf, but my vet told me that no need to feed other supplements wor, unless saw FIFI's fur dropping, skin dry or got problem, sick.....then only need feed supplement.
So after finish the tube, i no need to buy supplement lah. hehe.........

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ya da tube like colgate 1 rite..
press out den feeed into da mouth..
dat day da vet gave jack jack some but he din wanna eat..

i brought him 2 da vet not onli cos his eyes, previosly he accidentaly ate 1 thumbtag [ the 1 we use 2 pinned stuff on the board wif sharp end 1 ] into his tummy..den i found it in his poop. sked whether it did damage his tummy or not. the vet told me its ok, as long as he din loose his appetite, n activeness.. now ok bac d, but hv 2 take lots n lots of vitamins per day..
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doh.gif eat thumb tacks??? jack jack really geng. I wonder how he swallow such a sharp object. Luckily he's ok........
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i oso wonder how he swallows it since its sharp..

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My friend feed her dog EPO for human but rarely. I think only once a month.
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woah, feed so many supplements ah, so sayang ur dogs, haha.........
I only feed them nutristat, which has the omega3 fatty acid. I think its enuf, but my vet told me that no need to feed other supplements wor, unless saw FIFI's fur dropping, skin dry or got problem, sick.....then only need feed supplement.
So after finish the tube, i no need to buy supplement lah. hehe.........
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Dog food kibble already enough for our furkid. Over supplement will only do more harm.

Give supplement only when your furkid encounter illness, skin problem, & etcs
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NUTRISTAT IS WAD. buy frm vets arh? how much.
then i buy this 1 can liao lo.. since too much also not gd and it had omega 3. how to feed it? how long once? 1 time per day?
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hi! I wan ask what breed of dog wont make so much noise wan? I scared dogs bark often will annoy the neighbours.
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QUOTE(HotGimmick @ Jun 12 2007, 08:16 PM)
hi! I wan ask what breed of dog wont make so much noise wan? I scared dogs bark often will annoy the neighbours.
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WELL i can recommend u buy maltese or shihtzu .
terrier type u have to consider 1st only buy . make sure u goggle those pure breed characterlistic 1st and research before u buy a puppy .

u staying at apartment or condo?

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WELL i can recommend u buy maltese or shihtzu .
terrier type u have to consider 1st only buy . make sure u goggle those pure breed characterlistic 1st and research before u buy a puppy .

u staying at apartment or condo?
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Apartment. Dun like Shihtzu though blush.gif
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QUOTE(HotGimmick @ Jun 12 2007, 08:32 PM)
Apartment. Dun like Shihtzu though  blush.gif
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Hmm..well u can consider Maltese. tongue.gif
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basenji.
no noise.
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But you make sure your apartment can keep dogs first.... Later cannot, then not fair for the dog as well.
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basenji.
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But you make sure your apartment can keep dogs first.... Later cannot, then not fair for the dog as well.
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Basenji is super rare. Only 1 in Malaysia, but they are a barkless dog, superb for apartment coz no noise hahah.... they only whine and make soft noises during play or wanting attention.

It is always best to ask management... if can't rear, then nevermind lah, aim to get your own place like a landed house, then you can have your dream dog hahahah.
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Basenji? It's rare here right?  sweat.gif
Yaya! I will ask the management first. I see others got keep dog also. Thanks for advising  notworthy.gif

Last time I small I bela dog, my dad give it away to other ppl  cry.gif I wan my own dog  sad.gif
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hahha , hope u can get a dog to accompany u then .
Basenji really suitable to apartment/condo ...because it will not bark ..so cool ='P

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wonder how it stops itself from barking.
no expressing?
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Basenji express themselves through a series of whining and soft noises....
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Basenji

http://www.canismajor.com/dog/basenji.html

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/basenji.htm

They don't bark but they do make noise in a way it doesn't sound like a dog at all hahahah... some say sounds like a human laughing, some say sounds like baby crying....

They may make ok apartment dogs since don't bark, but they need lots of walks and exercise since they are a hunting dog naturally.

They also don't drop fur... a bit like a maltese... so cool hahaha.
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 12 2007, 10:12 PM)
Hah? Whats that? Cats is it? Whiner dog, never see before..
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i goggle see basenji this breed edi , cute thumbup.gif
Hahah good wurt , if basenji wont bark it mean those people who stay at apartment or condo got a chance to own this dog without worries LOL tongue.gif


Added on June 12, 2007, 10:28 pmhahaha ? when it make noise and it sounds like human laughing shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif and like baby crying shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif ...cant imagine how is it

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I also can't imagine.... really odd hahahah.... but at least it won't make people suspect it is a dog making the sound hehehehe.
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I also can't imagine.... really odd hahahah.... but at least it won't make people suspect it is a dog making the sound hehehehe.
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no wonder u say is good for those people who stay at apartment or condo nod.gif

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erm..
if staying alone wif da basenji den he suddenly cry den laugh like human..

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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 13 2007, 12:04 AM)
erm..
if staying alone wif da basenji den he suddenly cry den laugh like human..

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i know u like to watch ghost movie wan..
jaunty , how about u get a basenji then u get me how was it like ? when it cry like a babies and laugh like human ... brows.gif
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there's oni 1 basenji in msia la..
wait till it gets a spouse breed d oni say lor..
dat time no $$ buy oso..
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We just got a puppy last week and we were training him to eliminate properly..but to no avail and when his in the cage he keeps whining even though we're nearby... can someone teach us the right and proper way to train a puppy...
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Its very normal for the pup to keep whining coz they wan to come out and play.
Juz ignore it if it still whine even though its not hungry and juz eliminate
i'll leave the ans for the pros here.

and please check out the 1st page on how to train a puppy. cause there are alot of tips there.
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We just got a puppy last week and we were training him to eliminate properly..but to no avail and when his in the cage he keeps whining even though we're nearby... can someone teach us the right and proper way to train a puppy...
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How old is your puppy? If you see him walk in circles, you better carry him to where he is supposed to do his business for example newspapers, outdoor, bathroom, etc. For puppy is easy because when they wanna poo or pee, they will circle. Take this time to teach him, as often as you can, carry him and run for your life to the business area.

After he grow up, he will stop circling, then its even harder to teach. That time, no hint for you. For me, I will suggest just keep repeatingly bring him to the business area. Even when you cannot cope with the speed of him doing business faster than you can bring him, still do it. For a long time (some is 1 week, some is 2 months), he will come to understand.

QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 23 2007, 12:19 AM)
Its very normal for the pup to keep whining coz they wan to come out and play.
Juz ignore it if it still whine even though its not hungry and juz eliminate
i'll leave the ans for the pros here.

and please check out the 1st page on how to train a puppy. cause there are alot of tips there.
if u still do not understand anything den ask here again.
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Casper whines like crazy. When I brought him to the vet today, he whines. When he was at the vet desk, he whines. When he is at home, he whines. Sometimes, they just want to manja... Puppy ma, like babies - cant expect them to not cry right?
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wah.. whiness whiness whiness.. lol..
ur casper still baby arh.. i though adult liao.. muhaha


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we just got our puppy and wondering how do i really train him? especially potty...headache rclxub.gif

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potty training? using newspaper and treats smile.gif
if they pee on rite place, reward them.
else if u see them pee-ing at the wrong place, say NO and carry them to the correct spot.
careful coz droplets of pee will kena the floor XD
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remember do not make a big fuss if they pee/poo at the wrong place. just clean it quietly. and do not hit them smile.gif
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haih my puppy keeps scratching his eye till red like wat ping pong ball wif a lot of eye shit.. he won't let me clean it.. someone tell me wat tod o? very heartbreaking see him scratch thn pain so he cry...haih heartache...
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for pee/poo .. currently I'm also training my pup to pee/poo at newspapper. Night time, i cage him when i sleep. WAke up, first thing in the morning, i give him his breakfast IN THE CAGE. After he makan, i release him and bring him to newspaper - ask him to stay and shee shee. I leave him there for few minutes and he'll auto pee there. When he peed, I praise him and give him treats and stroke his head. Then 10 minutes later, bring him back to that newsppaer and ask him to poo. If he doesn't poo in within 15 minutes, i'll ask him to come and i'll play with him for 30 min like that. Then make him drink water and bring him to newsppaer again - repeat until he poo. Nite time after dinner, repeat the same thing lo. ASk him go newspaper pee/poo. If he did it, then treats lor. Currently he is sitll not 100% housebroken. Will still pee/poo on the floor sometimes and still dunno how to walk back to the newsppaer to pee/poo when needed. Need time lor. Jz repeat the process till he gets it in his head. But at least now he noes if he walks to the newspaper, he'll get treats from me biggrin.gif.

As for the eye discharge, take a piece of cloth and dampen it with warm water. Then hold his head with force and wipe lor. If he struggle, scold him lor. Ask him to stay lor. But truly speaking, i've neva experience this b4. My pup lets me clean his ears and eyes voluntarily without struggling.

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 23 2007, 03:12 AM)
wah.. whiness whiness whiness.. lol..
ur casper still baby arh.. i though adult liao.. muhaha
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we just got our puppy and wondering how do i really train him? especially potty...headache rclxub.gif
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What is it that you want to train him? Potty training is the first thing most owner wants. What dog and how many months?

Always target him when he is spinning in circles, sure got thing coming out! HAhaha...

QUOTE(babymiki @ Jun 24 2007, 12:37 AM)
potty training? using newspaper and treats smile.gif
if they pee on rite place, reward them.
else if u see them pee-ing at the wrong place, say NO and carry them to the correct spot.
careful coz droplets of pee will kena the floor XD
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Very honestly, I didnt believe it would work and every time he pee on the floor, I will push his head down and make him smell it and smack his butt gently, he will terkejut. Then over a period of time, I try to reward method and it really does seem better. So now, I want to endorse love-training for furkids, reward is the way to go..


QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Jun 24 2007, 11:23 PM)
haih my puppy keeps scratching his eye till red like wat ping pong ball wif a lot of eye shit.. he won't let me clean it.. someone tell me wat tod o? very heartbreaking see him scratch thn pain so he cry...haih heartache...
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Why is his eyes like that in the first place? Did you bring him to a vet for check-up before taking him home?

Hello my fren, he is your dog la, not you are his dog. You should be able to control him! What do you mean he wont let you clean it?

Tell you what. You try carrying him. Your left hand hold his right front paw. Your right hand hold his right back paw. Then bring him close to you and this way, his head will look to your left. Get someone else to clean their eyes then because this is the only way u can get ur dog to stay still.

QUOTE(Syrian @ Jun 24 2007, 11:32 PM)
for pee/poo .. currently I'm also training my pup to pee/poo at newspapper.  Night time, i cage him when i sleep.  WAke up, first thing in the morning, i give him his breakfast IN THE CAGE.  After he makan, i release him and bring him to newspaper - ask him to stay and shee shee.  I leave him there for few minutes and he'll auto pee there.  When he peed, I praise him and give him treats and stroke his head.  Then 10 minutes later, bring him back to that newsppaer and ask him to poo.  If he doesn't poo in within 15 minutes, i'll ask him to come and i'll play with him for 30 min like that.  Then make him drink water and bring him to newsppaer again - repeat until he poo.  Nite time after dinner, repeat the same thing lo.  ASk him go newspaper pee/poo.  If he did it, then treats lor.  Currently he is sitll not 100% housebroken.  Will still pee/poo on the floor sometimes and still dunno how to walk back to the newsppaer to pee/poo when needed.  Need time lor.  Jz repeat the process till he gets it in his head.  But at least now he noes if he walks to the newspaper, he'll get treats from me biggrin.gif

As for the eye discharge, take a piece of cloth and dampen it with warm water.  Then hold his head with force and wipe lor.  If he struggle, scold him lor.  Ask him to stay lor.  But truly speaking, i've neva experience this b4.  My pup lets me clean his ears and eyes voluntarily without struggling.
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You sure have lots of patient to potty-train your dog. Anyway, my casper is also semi- housebroken because now he is 7 months, seldom simply pee liao. Can tahan a few hours (6 hrs or more), so its ok for me to let him loose around the house. I calculate the last pee time and the next pee time. When come to near pee time, I will put him back in the cage.
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pennywise, Hepy is 4 months plus, turning into 5 months old SOON. Last time he can tahan 24 hours din pee/poo at all. When I bought him home, i used the wrong way to teach him to pee/poo - jz like some ppl mentioned - hit his ass or scold him when u see him pee/poo at wrong spot. Punish him, bla bla bla. Those din work at all. It was a hassle and a huge headache for me to housebreak him that time. But now, he's improving a lot. I'm using the "treat" method now. And it does work. He's happy; I'm also happy. He gets his yummy treat and I dun haf to clean the floor so often .. hehe. Now when he did some mistakes, I din hit his ass or scold him. I only say frown and say "no, you bad boy" and I clean up the mess silently. This way, our r/ship also improves a lot. He's so bonded to me now brows.gif.
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Jun 24 2007, 11:46 PM)
pennywise, Hepy is 4 months plus, turning into 5 months old SOON.  Last time he can tahan 24 hours din pee/poo at all.  When I bought him home, i used the wrong way to teach him to pee/poo - jz like some ppl mentioned - hit his ass or scold him when u see him pee/poo at wrong spot.  Punish him, bla bla bla.  Those din work at all.  It was a hassle and a huge headache for me to housebreak him that time.  But now, he's improving a lot.  I'm using the "treat" method now.  And it does work.  He's happy; I'm also happy.  He gets his yummy treat and I dun haf to clean the floor so often .. hehe.  Now when he did some mistakes, I din hit his ass or scold him.  I only say frown and say "no, you bad boy" and I clean up the mess silently.  This way, our r/ship also improves a lot.  He's so bonded to me now brows.gif.
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4 months can tahan 24 hours?! ARE YOU SURE?!?! Back when Casper is 4 months, he pee so much more often!! Like every 4 hours or 3 hours, he has to go once!!

Yes, I taught Casper the wrong way too until I read a book about training dogs. I always try to tipu him to the newspaper with feeding him treats near there. Give him the mentality that if he has nothing to be afraid of the paper and if he comes on to the paper, he gets a treat. Not exactly consistent but I only did it for a week, then he's paper trained.

Now just that sometimes he cannot find his way home to pee. I think I can share with you another way to bond with your dog, bring him to your bed to sleep with you in the afternoon nap. That's what I do and it helps but sometimes he gets to anxious that he gets up and walk around and round because he doesnt know how to get down from the bed. Just give it a try if you dont mind!
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Jun 24 2007, 11:46 PM)
pennywise, Hepy is 4 months plus, turning into 5 months old SOON.  Last time he can tahan 24 hours din pee/poo at all.  When I bought him home, i used the wrong way to teach him to pee/poo - jz like some ppl mentioned - hit his ass or scold him when u see him pee/poo at wrong spot.  Punish him, bla bla bla.  Those din work at all.  It was a hassle and a huge headache for me to housebreak him that time.  But now, he's improving a lot.  I'm using the "treat" method now.  And it does work.  He's happy; I'm also happy.  He gets his yummy treat and I dun haf to clean the floor so often .. hehe.  Now when he did some mistakes, I din hit his ass or scold him.  I only say frown and say "no, you bad boy" and I clean up the mess silently.  This way, our r/ship also improves a lot.  He's so bonded to me now brows.gif.
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Hahaha , yeah Treat is a very effective to reward our furkid when they sucess their training . my Lui Lui and Pretty will get reward from me when they know they did the right things. nod.gif

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well it was rather sad actually his cornea got skin growth i also dunno wat iszit called... haih pitiful but it wasnt red it just gotten red today.. will bring him to the vet later..worried abt him:(
he won't let me clean it as in he'll struggle and cry whn i do touch the eye...argh very sim tiah... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

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well it was rather sad actually his cornea got skin growth i also dunno wat iszit called... haih pitiful but it wasnt red it just gotten red today.. will bring him to the vet later..worried abt him:(
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yea ... hepy sleeps with me on my bed ALL the time except bedtime. Before this, he used to sleep with me at nite too until he suddenly started to wee wee on my tilam sweat.gif. Then I lock him in cage when i go zzz at night time and try out the caging method to train him to pee/poo. Now, before he zzz with me on my tilam (daytime), I make sure he wee wee and poo first tongue.gif.
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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Jun 25 2007, 12:05 AM)
well it was rather sad actually his cornea got skin growth i also dunno wat iszit called... haih pitiful but it wasnt red it just gotten red today.. will bring him to the vet later..worried abt him:(
he won't let me clean it as in he'll struggle and cry whn i do touch the eye...argh very sim tiah... sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif
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This sound very serious. If you are going to touch the eyeball sure he wont let you la. I poke your eye with my finger also you wont let me right? Sure you will struggle. If you not sure how to handle, please send him to the vet asap. All the best.

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yea ... hepy sleeps with me on my bed ALL the time except bedtime.  Before this, he used to sleep with me at nite too until he suddenly started to wee wee on my tilam sweat.gif.  Then I lock him in cage when i go zzz at night time and try out the caging method to train him to pee/poo.  Now, before he zzz with me on my tilam (daytime), I make sure he wee wee and poo first tongue.gif.
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Yea, like myself, I will calculate his pee and poo time. If he pee and poo at 7pm, I can let him stay on my bed till around 10pm or 11pm, then I scared liao. Scared he whack at my tilam, at night no need sleep...
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 25 2007, 09:41 AM)
This sound very serious. If you are going to touch the eyeball sure he wont let you la. I poke your eye with my finger also you wont let me right? Sure you will struggle. If you not sure how to handle, please send him to the vet asap. All the best.
Yea, like myself, I will calculate his pee and poo time. If he pee and poo at 7pm, I can let him stay on my bed till around 10pm or 11pm, then I scared liao. Scared he whack at my tilam, at night no need sleep...
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u are saying that your casper is 7 months, does he mark around?
when he pee, did you manage to train him squart?

mind putting your casper pic?
i m curious as to how he looks like after reading this thread thumbup.gif
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hey guys, hv a question here.
hope 2 get some answers b4 my 5 lil new born pups get take away by the council.

they r rott x spitz = rottiespitz [mogrels?]
born bout 2 weeks ago.
my parents made asked the carpenter 2 make a new shelter for them, which is like a dog house dat fits the mother and the 5 pups. a 50watt bulb is fixed on the "ceiling" to keep them warm, as junnie said. its on 24 hours, as my hometown has the famous name of "raintown", which it rains almost everyday.
we gave them puppy's milk as the mother doesnt have enough milk to feed all 5 pups. she's a lil skinny.
the pups keep on crying every minute, and we dunno wats wrong with them, even the vet says they're very healthy. eyes open already, think they can see us.
they oni stop crying when my bro carries them, n bring them into my house. my mom was a bit angry this morning, she whack one of the small butts cos the pup was crying too loud n its annoying, carried her inside the house, left her in my jack-jack's cage, on the fan. she immediately went quiet.

1. isit too hot ourside that they cant stand the heat and went crying all over? [i don think so cos it always rains, and the shelter is quite cooling. we left towels there 2 keep them warm in case its too cold]

2. the mother doesnt really like 2 go near them, n seldom feed them. y? how can i make her like her kids?

3. the way the pup cry is like crying 4 attention. after some1 pets their head or carry them they'll stop. y?
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yea we went to the vet says itz uncurable the growth on the eyeball cornea to be precise though it will not harm the pup sad.gif going to the vet at 3++ will let u guys know wat turned out
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u are saying that your casper is 7 months, does he mark around?
when he pee,  did you manage to train him squart?

mind putting your casper pic?
i m curious as to how he looks like after reading this thread  thumbup.gif
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Yea he does not mark around. But he especially like to pee on road bumps when we are out for a walk. I did not teach him to squat and pee, it has always been that way.

Pictures are here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/284587/+1920

QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Jun 25 2007, 12:45 PM)
yea we went to the vet says itz uncurable the growth on the eyeball cornea to be precise though it will not harm the pup sad.gif going to the vet at 3++ will let u guys know wat turned out
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Perhaps you want to get a second opinion from a different vet? Anyway if its not so serious, then try not to worry about it. Ask for advice on how to reduce the irritation so he wont scratch so much on the eye.
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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Jun 25 2007, 12:45 PM)
yea we went to the vet says itz uncurable the growth on the eyeball cornea to be precise though it will not harm the pup sad.gif going to the vet at 3++ will let u guys know wat turned out
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everything will be fine. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jun 25 2007, 01:52 PM)
Yea he does not mark around. But he especially like to pee on road bumps when we are out for a walk. I did not teach him to squat and pee, it has always been that way.

Pictures are here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/284587/+1920
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OMG it's so cute

what dog is that?

yupe so how he pees at home?
openning his leg?
is it that the pee it wil spread all over the place?

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andyfriends, casper is a west highland terrier.

jaunty .. be patience lar .. hahahaha .. some pro will reply u tongue.gif.
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 25 2007, 12:12 PM)
hey guys, hv a question here.
hope 2 get some answers b4 my 5 lil new born pups get take away by the council.

they r rott x spitz = rottiespitz [mogrels?]
born bout 2 weeks ago.
my parents made asked the carpenter 2 make a new shelter for them, which is like a dog house dat fits the mother and the 5 pups. a 50watt bulb is fixed on the "ceiling" to keep them warm, as junnie said. its on 24 hours, as my hometown has the famous name of "raintown", which it rains almost everyday.
we gave them puppy's milk as the mother doesnt have enough milk to feed all 5 pups. she's a lil skinny.
the pups keep on crying every minute, and we dunno wats wrong with them, even the vet says they're very healthy. eyes open already, think they can see us.
they oni stop crying when my bro carries them, n bring them into my house. my mom was a bit angry this morning, she whack one of the small butts cos the pup was crying too loud n its annoying, carried her inside the house, left her in my jack-jack's cage, on the fan. she immediately went quiet.

1. isit too hot ourside that they cant stand the heat and went crying all over? [i don think so cos it always rains, and the shelter is quite cooling. we left towels there 2 keep them warm in case its too cold]

2. the mother doesnt really like 2 go near them, n seldom feed them. y? how can i make her like her kids?

3. the way the pup cry is like crying 4 attention. after some1 pets their head or carry them they'll stop. y?
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firstly is the ventilation ok for the shelter? Inside may be humid but not hot. Rain doesn't mean it's cool but rather humid if the ventilation isn't good or there's no wind wink.gif

secondly... the mother may be too tired and under nourished to go near the babies coz she knows if she were to be near them, the babies would tire her even more. Please check her nipples to see if there's any infection or not.

thirdly...mayb coz they did not get affection from the mom.
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well the vet says itz irritated so tatz y my pup's scratching on the eye gave me an eye cream...kinda hard to put it on and kinda cruel too imagine ppl put 1 layer of cream on ur eyebal... bought a head cover so he wun scratch anymore
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the ventilation is okay.
sometimes when its hot my dad will put da big fan for them. the wooden house is not all covered 4 sides. so its quite cooling inside.

the mother we're giving the best for her. orijen kibbles 5 cups per day. bought from ikano dat day cos my mom wants it urgent. flaxseed oil + seaweed extract wif multi vitamins.
da vet says her nipples r okay.

jus dunno y she refuses 2 feed them.
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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Jun 25 2007, 07:22 PM)
well the vet says itz irritated so tatz y my pup's scratching on the eye gave me an eye cream...kinda hard to put it on and kinda cruel too imagine ppl put 1 layer of cream on ur eyebal... bought a head cover so he wun scratch anymore
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 25 2007, 12:12 PM)
hey guys, hv a question here.
hope 2 get some answers b4 my 5 lil new born pups get take away by the council.

they r rott x spitz = rottiespitz [mogrels?]
born bout 2 weeks ago.
my parents made asked the carpenter 2 make a new shelter for them, which is like a dog house dat fits the mother and the 5 pups. a 50watt bulb is fixed on the "ceiling" to keep them warm, as junnie said. its on 24 hours, as my hometown has the famous name of "raintown", which it rains almost everyday.
we gave them puppy's milk as the mother doesnt have enough milk to feed all 5 pups. she's a lil skinny.
the pups keep on crying every minute, and we dunno wats wrong with them, even the vet says they're very healthy. eyes open already, think they can see us.
they oni stop crying when my bro carries them, n bring them into my house. my mom was a bit angry this morning, she whack one of the small butts cos the pup was crying too loud n its annoying, carried her inside the house, left her in my jack-jack's cage, on the fan. she immediately went quiet.

1. isit too hot ourside that they cant stand the heat and went crying all over? [i don think so cos it always rains, and the shelter is quite cooling. we left towels there 2 keep them warm in case its too cold]

2. the mother doesnt really like 2 go near them, n seldom feed them. y? how can i make her like her kids?

3. the way the pup cry is like crying 4 attention. after some1 pets their head or carry them they'll stop. y?
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Firstly, how big is the shelter? Female dogs need space... normally a breeding kennel should be large enough for the female dog to get some space away from the puppies.

Anyway, the puppies feel insecure since the female dog doesn't want to feed them. Also, it may be you and your bro and disturbing the female dog too much. Do you go inside the shelter and handle the pups often? How close and friendly is the female dog towards you and your bro? Some dogs prefer to have more alone time with their puppies coz in the wild, if you look at wolves, the female wolf will never let any other strange wolf into the den that has her pups. She will only let her pups come out when they are about 6 weeks old. So wolves and dogs a slightly similar in nature.

It is normal for pups to cry. So you shouldn't whack pups when they are so young, no matter how annoying.

The puppies may be feeling uncomfortable outdoors.... even in a shelter, they need warmth. The light bulb doesn't work coz the light bulb has to be 8 inches away only can feel heat. If it is high up, there is no heat for the pups.

QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Jun 25 2007, 07:22 PM)
well the vet says itz irritated so tatz y my pup's scratching on the eye gave me an eye cream...kinda hard to put it on and kinda cruel too imagine ppl put 1 layer of cream on ur eyebal... bought a head cover so he wun scratch anymore
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Erm, you never been to eyes specialist before? Most antibiotic creams for dogs are actually available in our pharmacies because it is meant for humans... so you mean I apply the cream on my eye, I am being cruel to myself? LOL....

You better get a 2nd opinion. That is not a head cover, a E-collar. Be consistent with the antibiotic ointment, dogs have sensitive eyes.
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means dat the light bulb has 2 b very near?
i sked the female dog would bang it..

the shelter is about 3feetx5feet. the female is quite small in size..she owez walk away from the puppies, go to the front of my house, near the cars, den sleep underneath the cars. isit too hot for the Taz[female] dat makes her go away?

even though she moves the pups somewhere elz she wont bother 2 feed them. haven got bac my hometown yet this week, da condition was told by my mother. she's expecting a letter from the council. i think the neighbours complaint.

my bro din wanna go near the pups as no matter wat he does they'll still cry, so better stay off. Taz has a good relationship wif us. she allows us 2 feed the pups for her, as the vet says she doesnt hv enuf milk to feed all the pups. she oni nurse the pups once daily.

my niehgbour had dogs too, but when the female deliver da pups, she was very aggressive n bit the owner who's trying 2 go near n peep da pups. so i think Taz is okay wif us lookin at her pups. din wanna go too near 2 them oso, cos i noe they wouldnt like it. its my bro who owez feeds da pups when they're really hungry..
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means dat the light bulb has 2 b very near?
i sked the female dog would bang it..

the shelter is about 3feetx5feet. the female is quite small in size..she owez walk away from the puppies, go to the front of my house, near the cars, den sleep underneath the cars. isit too hot for the Taz[female] dat makes her go away?

even though she moves the pups somewhere elz she wont bother 2 feed them. haven got bac my hometown yet this week, da condition was told by my mother. she's expecting a letter from the council. i think the neighbours complaint.

my bro din wanna go near the pups as no matter wat he does they'll still cry, so better stay off. Taz has a good relationship wif us. she allows us 2 feed the pups for her, as the vet says she doesnt hv enuf milk to feed all the pups. she oni nurse the pups once daily.

my niehgbour had dogs too, but when the female deliver da pups, she was very aggressive n bit the owner who's trying 2 go near n peep da pups. so i think Taz is okay wif us lookin at her pups. din wanna go too near 2 them oso, cos i noe they wouldnt like it. its my bro who owez feeds da pups when they're really hungry..
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Well, for heat people would put heater or build the shelter to be warm with bricks.... the light bulb will not work with your Taz around. The heat generated is very little from the light bulb. For reptiles we use red heat light but it eats alot of electricity and the big heat lamps are not suitable since they are very powerful.

I guess they are crying coz Taz is not with them. They feel vulnerable and insecure without their mom. 3ft by 5ft is ok but I guess Taz doesn't feel comfortable inside.

If she is not nursing much, you have to help feed the pups. Puppies need to nurse every 4 hours.... also, did your brother clean their genitals and anus after feeding with a wet cloth?
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How old are the puppies now?
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the pups r about 2 weeks old d..
haven open their eyes yet..wonder y so long..

she doesnt wanna see the pups like its none of her business. we tried 2 tie her there a while n she was like barking the roof down..

will try putting bricks around the house. its half feet from the ground. owez put something soft near the entrance, in case the baby rolls down..

ya we did clean da genital areas and anus cos Taz will sometimes carry 1 puppy somewhere elz to hide, den bring the puppy bac 2 da house again.. sometimes it nearly stop my mom's heart after counting 1234.. n there;s the number 5 missing.. clean the areas wif a lil warm water + wet tissue for dogs. feeding them every 3hours cos they're oni taking like about 3-4ml each pup. sked dat it may not b enuf cos they cry every 2 hours when they're hungry.
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OMG it's so cute

what dog is that?

yupe so how he pees at home?
openning his leg?
is it that the pee it wil spread all over the place?
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West Highland. He pees on the newspaper at home. The pee will tumpah a bit if long time didnt change the newspaper but overall is ok. No open leg, just squat and pee.
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Jun 25 2007, 10:35 PM)
the pups r about 2 weeks old d..
haven open their eyes yet..wonder y so long..

she doesnt wanna see the pups like its none of her business. we tried 2 tie her there a while n she was like barking the roof down..

will try putting bricks around the house. its half feet from the ground. owez put something soft near the entrance, in case the baby rolls down..

ya we did clean da genital areas and anus cos Taz will sometimes carry 1 puppy somewhere elz to hide, den bring the puppy bac 2 da house again.. sometimes it nearly stop my mom's heart after counting 1234.. n there;s the number 5 missing.. clean the areas wif a lil warm water + wet tissue for dogs. feeding them every 3hours cos they're oni taking like about 3-4ml each pup. sked dat it may not b enuf cos they cry every 2 hours when they're hungry.
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3 to 4ml? They should take as much milk as they can... if they do not want, they will turn away. Do you let them drink till enough or just ration 3 to 4ml to each pup? A chihuahua pup which is 1 week old takes 14ml of milk a day....at 2 weeks it will take 18ml of milk a day.... so chihuahua is smaller, so I bet Taz's pups needs a bit more... Go for 5ml each time if possible. Also, what brand of milk are they taking?

Some puppies open their eyes at 10 days old, some till 17 days old.
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Nutri-Lac Pet Milk Replacer
bought it at my hometown.

when it reaches 3-4ml they'll turn away.. cant feed them more cos they dowan 2 take.

its not written there how much the ratio btween warm water n milk powder. so i taught my bro 2 agak-agak, test da milk b4 giving them. bought da nursing bottle too.

Taz kept hiding the pups. everytime she'll hide oni 1.
den when she sees my mom n dad wondering around the garden looking 4 her pup, she'll go n put bac the pup. sometimes she'll leave da pup there for hours if we're not at home. different puppy at a time. any theories 2 explain her behavior?
she doesnt like us 2 go near her pups?
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anyway... for food problem.. different dog need different food.. try to buy the smallest pack of food.. for example.. sample pack.. share with ur friends... or ask some from the breeder (pay him of course.) .. because dog may be choosy on food.. or allergy on certain food... observe his poo everyday to make sure he is healthy..

training is easy after ur puppy know his/her name.. but i see a lot of student in uni who is petting a dog don't really train the dog.. but just playing with him/her daily.. this is not good. .at least u must let him know 3 command... which are "NO!" "SIT" and "COME".. always say no when he want to do something bad... for example.. poo.. or eat whatever thing on the floor.. my sugar(pug) never take his food for 5 mins.. if i point to her food and say NO.... it is very useful to teach "NO" everytime u feed her/him... ask him to sit first... and say wait... then u pour the food in front of her......... if she/he is trying to eat it, say no.. push him away ... ask him to sit again... and command "take" ..push him to the food..

toilet training is very important... but first thing u must make sure 3 things.. place to sleep.. place to poo.. and place to eat.... human and animal are naturally know how to differentiate this 3 things.. you will never poo in ur bed room.. and animal never eat their meal at the place they sleep (unless they have babies)...
so... train him to poo at the place which is near to drain.. or toilet.. but the problem is when.. and how?? when... usually dog will poo or pee after they took their meal.. or after exercise... remember.. always keep talking or contact(touch or whatever) when he/she is taking the meal.. so that when ur pup grown up, you are able to take his food away while he is taking it halfway (some ppl never care their dog when taking meal, so the dog will attack the owner if owner try to get his food away .. or owner just touch the dog head when the dog is having his meal... do it during puppy day... he will never atk when he is adult) .. ok.. after meal.. bring him to the spot u want him to poo.. let him walk around.. wait untill he start poo... when he is done... must praise...

Beat is not necessory , but threat is good enoguh to teach a dog.. use the cain to hit the floor. or newspaper roll to hit its backside... but never use it on training.. only use it when he poo at wrong spot(pull him to his poo spot and scold or beat on that spot).. bite shoe..(must let him smell the spoil shoe before u punish)...

ok.. for a experience or inexperience owner here... don't think it is funny when i say this... try to talk with ur dog.. even though u and him are using different language.. but the tone from u .. he will understand... my pug will bark at me if i scold my girl friend in front of her(tried few times in the car)... she is cute and understanding.. speak more with ur dog.. share ur day ... u will notice her response really make ur day up...
my sugar don't like to be carry, she will struggle whenever u hug her... but she will be patient on hugging only when my gf cry or not happy..

p/s: had a bad time with gf 1 year ago.. but we are lovely now.. don't get in mind that im those guy who beat girl or 3rd party ...

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QUOTE(drew @ Jun 28 2007, 10:45 AM)
ok.. for a experience or inexperience owner here... don't think it is funny when i say this... try to talk with ur dog.. even though u and him are using different language.. but the tone from u .. he will understand... my pug will bark at me if i scold my girl friend in front of her(tried few times in the car)... she is cute and understanding.. speak more with ur dog.. share ur day ... u will notice her response really make ur day up...
my sugar don't like to be carry, she will struggle whenever u hug her... but she will be patient on hugging only when my gf cry or not happy..

p/s: had a bad time with gf 1 year ago.. but we are lovely now.. don't get in mind that im those guy who beat girl or 3rd party ...
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well i think it is not funny when u recommend us to communicate with our furkids. I do that too , and actually our furkid do really understand what we want ...which is our body language and voice tone . They know how 2 difference it which is angry , sad or happy. Dog is a intelligent . That's why every dog to me is smart , just depend to the owner wanted to teach it or not. Good explaination u trying to tell here.

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LOL.. good explanation + the p/s thingy.. lol
anyway i would love to talk to dogs. as i also talk to my other pet even though they dun understand.. muahah..

how to train dog to wait?
sit i think is easy.. juz push the butt down and say the command "sit" if he does rite.. treat lo.

haha i guess to train the dog "NO" muz train him to sit and wait first..
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i also got train FIFI sit and wait before makan.
Everytime i put the bowl down, she'll guai guai sit there until i touch her head, then only she'll go makan.
I forget that i read some where regarding this training, is for them to know that u r in charge of the food, means u r the leader for them.......
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Jun 28 2007, 03:47 PM)
i also got train FIFI sit and wait before makan.
Everytime i put the bowl down, she'll guai guai sit there until i touch her head, then only she'll go makan.
I forget that i read some where regarding this training, is for them to know that u r in charge of the food, means u r the leader for them.......
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Yeah this is a good training.
put the bowl with their meal in front of them for 5 minute then waitting owner to say okay'' then only can eat. My lui lui and pretty did that . Janice ...u training Hugo this trick already ? this is fun thumbup.gif

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I ask hepy Sit first .. then when he saw me taking the bowl, he will get up excitedly and wag his tail super fast laugh.gif. THen i'll tell him "hepy, noooo" in a very low tone and say "sit ... stay ...". Or i say "behaveeeee" ... then he'll sit and stay brows.gif
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wah.. all sounds so fun!! envious.. cry.gif
FASTER bring hugo back AH!@$@#$!@#%$#!%!#$
Digitral- i going outstation on the 30th.. cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 28 2007, 06:21 PM)
wah.. all sounds so fun!! envious.. cry.gif
FASTER bring hugo back AH!@$@#$!@#%$#!%!#$
Digitral- i going outstation on the 30th.. cry.gif cry.gif
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Janice,
u going outstation this coming 30th ah?
then u got bring along Hugo go or not .
dun sad dun sad, i noe u miss Hugo Boss for sure wink.gif

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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Jun 28 2007, 03:47 PM)
i also got train FIFI sit and wait before makan.
Everytime i put the bowl down, she'll guai guai sit there until i touch her head, then only she'll go makan.
I forget that i read some where regarding this training, is for them to know that u r in charge of the food, means u r the leader for them.......
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Your Fifi won't drool? Hahahah.... coz I also train my dogs to stay before eating....

All my dogs, sit first then I make hand sign for stay..... then put the bowl of food down.... my dogs will look at me then start to drool like water fall till I feel kesian then I say OK and touch their heads hahaah.... it's really funny to see my lab drool.

But what you said is right. It teaches the dog that you are in charge, you are alpha and they must obey you.
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QUOTE(Digitral @ Jun 28 2007, 07:30 PM)
Janice,
u going outstation this coming 30th ah?
then u got bring along Hugo go or not .
dun sad dun sad, i noe u miss Hugo Boss for sure  wink.gif
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Ya lo.. Im not bringing hugo along coz it still not v close to me yet.. i scared it stress and scared will confuse its wee wee training.. and also scared i cant get hold of him yet.. So many things scared.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 28 2007, 02:27 PM)
LOL.. good explanation + the p/s thingy.. lol
anyway i would love to talk to dogs. as i also talk to my other pet even though they dun understand.. muahah..

how to train dog to wait?
sit i think is easy.. juz push the butt down and say the command "sit" if he does rite.. treat lo.

haha i guess to train the dog "NO" muz train him to sit and wait first..
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wait need a lot of patient to do it ... let him sit first.. give a hand sign and shout "wait"... slowly get away ur dog.. if she try to move.. u shout and give hand sign again... if its not working... position him again... try to let him wait for 30 seconds first....

Wait and Stay command has different.. for my sugar
wait is define as stay at the place.. can down.. sit.. turn around.. but must on the spot..
stay is purely hold that pose...
i bring her to public class 1 year ago untill i start my degree course... study time too pack.. can't really attend all class and tired.. haha.. but i really dissapointed because my sugar never know how to "trick dead".. she know roll... sit.. stay .. wait .. go .. come .. down... stand... take... NO(must know and let her know this is serious word).... but at last.. my mum ban the "ROLL" because her back will be very very dirty ..

i remember there is 1 time.. my maid ask her to wait in front of the food... then my maid went to clean the dishes(usually let the dog eat after human dinner).. and my maid straight away went to shower , she forgot bout the command... HAHAHA.. who knows after the shower.. sugar is still staring at the food bowl.. wow.. she was so cute and patient that time..

p/s: i know my maid forgot, because my dog bark without any reason.. but i just look from far to see how patient she is

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Jun 28 2007, 08:46 PM)
Ya lo.. Im not bringing hugo along coz it still not v close to me yet.. i scared it stress and scared will confuse its wee wee training.. and also scared i cant get hold of him yet.. So many things scared.. sweat.gif
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Janice ,
u went outstation for how many days.
well time past very fast want , after went bck from outstation and u'll meet Hugo back with big hugs

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i dunoe how many days also.. sleep.gif
hoPe the days can faster Pass by.. and when i get hugo back.. time slow back. LOL.


Added on June 28, 2007, 10:16 pmDrew- Wow.. ur Pug so celver..
got Pics arh?

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puppy is like a kid... teach when first contact to her.. mine is not good enough.. almost all the dog can do as well as sugar.. ill show her photo later... it is not inside my company pc ..

pity her.. start class when she just hit 3 month old.. by the time she already know sit and hand.... so ... if u are not teaching ur puppy..don't simply give command..

i remember my dog went jogging at Lake View, next to holiday villa in subang.. (because her class cancel)... first round she was excited.. 2nd half round.. she got tired... and keep the down pose don't want to move .. haha
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jun 28 2007, 08:29 PM)
Your Fifi won't drool? Hahahah.... coz I also train my dogs to stay before eating....

All my dogs, sit first then I make hand sign for stay..... then put the bowl of food down.... my dogs will look at me then start to drool like water fall till I feel kesian then I say OK and touch their heads hahaah.... it's really funny to see my lab drool.

But what you said is right. It teaches the dog that you are in charge, you are alpha and they must obey you.
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drool ah, no wor.....actually i nvr seen her drool b4. Mayb my place not that hot gua, apartment mah......
She likes to nib and lick my hand and leg, then makes her saliva all over my hand, but din drool wor.......
Mayb small dogs wont drool gua.... or the tongue is small, haha.........rclxub.gif
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xun-xun jus drooled this morning when i wanted 2 giv her her breakfast..
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so funny to se doggys drool.. like boxer.. when drool si beh cute. lol


drew- huh wad u mean by if not teaching PuPPy dun give command?
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Haha, maybe too delicious liao the breakfast tongue.gif
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yayaya ORIJEN rite.. sweat.gif

do i hav to giv suPPlements if i giv hugo orijen ??

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