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post Apr 20 2017, 06:52 AM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Apr 19 2017, 10:34 PM)
nope. playstore already opened. check my previous post
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They download speed for Google Play Store is still being throttled on 3G conection.
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QUOTE(neutronex @ Apr 19 2017, 05:08 PM)
how to check if the line were 4g(except for the sign of 4G) ? especially Tdd 2300 and tdd2600 currently want to buy modem that support webe mobile.
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Use network signal guru in SD hp root
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QUOTE(mztang52 @ Apr 20 2017, 06:52 AM)
They download speed for Google Play Store is still being throttled on 3G conection.
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3g selkom still cap at 2mbps for all
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Apr 20 2017, 08:51 AM)
3g selkom still cap at 2mbps for all
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post Apr 20 2017, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Apr 18 2017, 10:27 PM)
i test out at places that on H+, speed cap is there
on 4G areas with above 10Mbps speed test.. no speed cap for playstore
4G area with 2-4mbps. speed capped at 2xxKBps
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QUOTE(mztang52 @ Apr 20 2017, 06:52 AM)
They download speed for Google Play Store is still being throttled on 3G conection.
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yup. as i tested
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QUOTE(neutronex @ Apr 19 2017, 05:08 PM)
how to check if the line were 4g(except for the sign of 4G) ? especially Tdd 2300 and tdd2600 currently want to buy modem that support webe mobile.
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502153 4G is webe band 38 & 40
50211 4G is webe band 5
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QUOTE(fat16 @ Apr 20 2017, 09:34 AM)
502153 4G is webe band 38 & 40
50211 4G is webe band 5
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502 153 could be band 5 also.
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post Apr 20 2017, 02:42 PM

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Try download movie from moviehd, the speed never more thank 350K/s no matter use 4g or 3g connection.
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post Apr 20 2017, 05:16 PM

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Updating my S7 EDGE (176mb) takes about 10minutes on 4g. Do they cap software update too?
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QUOTE(hwh5587 @ Apr 20 2017, 02:42 PM)
Try download movie from moviehd, the speed never more thank 350K/s no matter use 4g or 3g connection.
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Could i have the full address for moviehd?

Thank you in advance.
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QUOTE(izwanikhsan @ Apr 20 2017, 05:16 PM)
Updating my S7 EDGE (176mb) takes about 10minutes on 4g. Do they cap software update too?
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depending on ur speedtest at that area i think...
in my case for xiaomi updates download at more than 500kbps


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QUOTE(JJKTP @ Apr 20 2017, 08:30 PM)
Could i have the full address for moviehd?

Thank you in advance.
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It's an app, you can download from here
http://moviehdappdownload.com/movie-hd-apk/
To download movies you need vplayer also, download it from playstore.
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QUOTE(hwh5587 @ Apr 21 2017, 05:58 AM)
It's an app, you can download from here
http://moviehdappdownload.com/movie-hd-apk/
To download movies you need vplayer also, download it from playstore.
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I see.

Thank you so much for the reply.
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QUOTE(mztang52 @ Apr 20 2017, 08:57 AM)
502 153 could be band 5 also.
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yeah i think so.
502 153 band 5, 38, 40 built by webe itself.
502 11 built by tmgo before webe was born.
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post Apr 21 2017, 01:23 PM

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People always forget that when you are transacting data, there are always more contributing factors to the "speed" of the network. We always blame our providers as they are here and near.

No one even consider the condition of the host server, traffic "speed" of the various hops that the data going through before it even land in Malaysia's gateway and then travel through our provider network before ending on our devices. I believe, the data that travels through various network were charge by respective network provider, and it was not cheap.

Imagine how much Webe (or TM) have to pay to, let say Verizon or NTT or BT or SingTel, to have the data transferred through their network so that the traffic will have the least hops and arrive faster to Malaysia. It will be costly to transfer data from foreign server than the server in Malaysia. Thats why Malaysia have tried (not sure how much effort) to have those service to host in Malaysia so the cost could be lessen. If Google could host their services (Youtube, Gmail etc.) in Malaysia, we'll be having smallest ping and whooping speed irregardless of whatever provider we use. Same goes to the gaming services that we played online.

Our provider can only manage the "speed" in their network only. They can boost, prioritize and separate it into dedicated channel to improve specific service. They can't do that for every incoming traffic. Network congestion are very delicate to handle. But at some point, the infrastructure will be overwhelm (in Webe case, using the mobile data for non mobile things) and they can only mitigate it up to some point where infrastructure had to be upgrade.

When they enter this phase, you can't expect the provider to magically resolve the congestion in a blink (or a day or a week or a month). They need to prepare expansion proposal, get the approval, procure the infra, deliver the infra, install the infra, test the infra then they may commission it to public. All this infrastructure expansion and upgrades cost time and money, A LOT OF MONEY.

So, be considerate when you complaint. It can be the provider fault, it can be the hosting service fault, it can be intermediary network provider fault that you have "slow" stream of movies or bad ping playing WoW etc.

Sorry for your time,
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post Apr 21 2017, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(afza @ Apr 21 2017, 02:23 PM)
People always forget that when you are transacting data, there are always more contributing factors to the "speed" of the network. We always blame our providers as they are here and near.

No one even consider the condition of the host server, traffic "speed" of the various hops that the data going through before it even land in Malaysia's gateway and then travel through our provider network before ending on our devices. I believe, the data that travels through various network were charge by respective network provider, and it was not cheap.

Imagine how much Webe (or TM) have to pay to, let say Verizon or NTT or BT or SingTel, to have the data transferred through their network so that the traffic will have the least hops and arrive faster to Malaysia. It will be costly to transfer data from foreign server than the server in Malaysia. Thats why Malaysia have tried (not sure how much effort) to have those service to host in Malaysia so the cost could be lessen. If Google could host their services (Youtube, Gmail etc.) in Malaysia, we'll be having smallest ping and whooping speed irregardless of whatever provider we use. Same goes to the gaming services that we played online.

Our provider can only manage the "speed" in their network only. They can boost, prioritize and separate it into dedicated channel to improve specific service. They can't do that for every incoming traffic. Network congestion are very delicate to handle. But at some point, the infrastructure will be overwhelm (in Webe case, using the mobile data for non mobile things) and they can only mitigate it up to some point where infrastructure had to be upgrade.

When they enter this phase, you can't expect the provider to magically resolve the congestion in a blink (or a day or a week or a month). They need to prepare expansion proposal, get the approval, procure the infra, deliver the infra, install the infra, test the infra then they may commission it to public. All this infrastructure expansion and upgrades cost time and money, A LOT OF MONEY.

So, be considerate when you complaint. It can be the provider fault, it can be the hosting service fault, it can be intermediary network provider fault that you have "slow" stream of movies or bad ping playing WoW etc.

Sorry for your time,
Just an IT guy.

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Well said bro. Some people do not understand this and keep on complaining. Maintaining huge networks is not a easy job,this based on my experience in networking jobs.
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post Apr 21 2017, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(afza @ Apr 21 2017, 01:23 PM)
People always forget that when you are transacting data, there are always more contributing factors to the "speed" of the network. We always blame our providers as they are here and near.

No one even consider the condition of the host server, traffic "speed" of the various hops that the data going through before it even land in Malaysia's gateway and then travel through our provider network before ending on our devices. I believe, the data that travels through various network were charge by respective network provider, and it was not cheap.

Imagine how much Webe (or TM) have to pay to, let say Verizon or NTT or BT or SingTel, to have the data transferred through their network so that the traffic will have the least hops and arrive faster to Malaysia. It will be costly to transfer data from foreign server than the server in Malaysia. Thats why Malaysia have tried (not sure how much effort) to have those service to host in Malaysia so the cost could be lessen. If Google could host their services (Youtube, Gmail etc.) in Malaysia, we'll be having smallest ping and whooping speed irregardless of whatever provider we use. Same goes to the gaming services that we played online.

Our provider can only manage the "speed" in their network only. They can boost, prioritize and separate it into dedicated channel to improve specific service. They can't do that for every incoming traffic. Network congestion are very delicate to handle. But at some point, the infrastructure will be overwhelm (in Webe case, using the mobile data for non mobile things) and they can only mitigate it up to some point where infrastructure had to be upgrade.

When they enter this phase, you can't expect the provider to magically resolve the congestion in a blink (or a day or a week or a month). They need to prepare expansion proposal, get the approval, procure the infra, deliver the infra, install the infra, test the infra then they may commission it to public. All this infrastructure expansion and upgrades cost time and money, A LOT OF MONEY.

So, be considerate when you complaint. It can be the provider fault, it can be the hosting service fault, it can be intermediary network provider fault that you have "slow" stream of movies or bad ping playing WoW etc.

Sorry for your time,
Just an IT guy.

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If we really want server to be hosted in Malaysia, the price of internet access must be drive down. Most server would rather host in Singapore rather than Malaysia although the cost of space rental and electricity cost is cheaper in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(afza @ Apr 21 2017, 01:23 PM)
People always forget that when you are transacting data, there are always more contributing factors to the "speed" of the network. We always blame our providers as they are here and near.

No one even consider the condition of the host server, traffic "speed" of the various hops that the data going through before it even land in Malaysia's gateway and then travel through our provider network before ending on our devices. I believe, the data that travels through various network were charge by respective network provider, and it was not cheap.

Imagine how much Webe (or TM) have to pay to, let say Verizon or NTT or BT or SingTel, to have the data transferred through their network so that the traffic will have the least hops and arrive faster to Malaysia. It will be costly to transfer data from foreign server than the server in Malaysia. Thats why Malaysia have tried (not sure how much effort) to have those service to host in Malaysia so the cost could be lessen. If Google could host their services (Youtube, Gmail etc.) in Malaysia, we'll be having smallest ping and whooping speed irregardless of whatever provider we use. Same goes to the gaming services that we played online.

Our provider can only manage the "speed" in their network only. They can boost, prioritize and separate it into dedicated channel to improve specific service. They can't do that for every incoming traffic. Network congestion are very delicate to handle. But at some point, the infrastructure will be overwhelm (in Webe case, using the mobile data for non mobile things) and they can only mitigate it up to some point where infrastructure had to be upgrade.

When they enter this phase, you can't expect the provider to magically resolve the congestion in a blink (or a day or a week or a month). They need to prepare expansion proposal, get the approval, procure the infra, deliver the infra, install the infra, test the infra then they may commission it to public. All this infrastructure expansion and upgrades cost time and money, A LOT OF MONEY.

So, be considerate when you complaint. It can be the provider fault, it can be the hosting service fault, it can be intermediary network provider fault that you have "slow" stream of movies or bad ping playing WoW etc.

Sorry for your time,
Just an IT guy.

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who da hell care how much money they need to maintain the infra. if cannot sustain just get out of the business la. be considerate when complain? can they be considerate when collecting our money? if network congested why keep on accepting new applicant?

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QUOTE(@POTUS @ Apr 21 2017, 01:47 PM)
who da hell care how much money they need to maintain the infra. if cannot sustain just get out of the business la. be considerate when complain? can they be considerate when collecting our money? if network congested why keep on accepting new applicant?
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What he is trying to say is that it will take some time to address the network congestion issue of certain area. As users are always on the move, it's hard to keep the service quality strictly at tight standard.
If you can't wait for the network congestion to be addressed, you always have the choice to go over to another less congested service provider. (Unless you're saying about Unifi, that's monopoly and it's another story)
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QUOTE(zher4883 @ Apr 21 2017, 01:34 PM)
If we really want server to be hosted in Malaysia, the price of internet access must be drive down. Most server would rather host in Singapore rather than Malaysia although the cost of space rental and electricity cost is cheaper in Malaysia.
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Price of internet is one of the criteria, but incentive from government it the main attraction. Tax exemption, tax rebate, government policy, law are more important to those company to do business in Malaysia.


QUOTE(Hummingbird @ Apr 21 2017, 01:53 PM)
What he is trying to say is that it will take some time to address the network congestion issue of certain area. As users are always on the move, it's hard to keep the service quality strictly at tight standard.
If you can't wait for the network congestion to be addressed, you always have the choice to go over to another less congested service provider. (Unless you're saying about Unifi, that's monopoly and it's another story)
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Yes, we as the consumer should be wise on how we spend our money. We shouldn't be loyal to a brand because of sentimental value only.
As for the provider, we should judge Webe as a new start up. They just deploy their initial network. There are still a lot of kinks to be sort out (TAC for example). I'll talk about TAC later if I have time (its not as easy as A B C.) You wouldn't benchmark Primary school 100m sprinter with Usin Bolt!

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