I was once asked by a Christian to join him in church on sunday and convert.
He told me to not tell my parents. I got nice Christian friends. but not this feler.

F**ing fanatic cult.

This post has been edited by Red_rustyjelly: Apr 18 2017, 02:46 PM

both you and her need to set religion and relationship apart. else will throw words at each other about each's religion and culture.

not to say that most of the time, it's the female counterpart that gives issue. it has to alot to do with the family upbringing. i have a lot of male Christian's friend who are strict as hell who claimed to only will date Christians and if there are none left in this world, they would rather not be in a relationship. You may be surprised but these people do exists.

either you have misinterpreted the contents of the post entry or that she is focusing on one part of the problem or she doesn't understand why the caveat is imposed in the bible.

the rationale behind Christian marrying Christian is simple and not rocket science, this is that it is in harmonious with the bible. the union between a male and female in God's light resembles Adam and Eve, with that, God can then bestow upon His blessings on them. it would be absurd if not contradictory if God blesses that individual who is not a believer or if He only bless one person but not the other. It's an union hence it must be fair. This is the "spiritual" side of things.

the more noble notion is that, assuming all Christians are devoted, understands the sanctity of marriage and will not commit sins against any of the 10 commandments. it is a general perception that non-Christian does not know about the 10 commandments hence, you cannot perform what you don't know. it's always better to have 2 people having the same thoughts live together than completely 2 people from different worlds, the latter would be a disaster friction waiting to happen. this is just basically, reasonableness.

but to be honest, none of these hold true anymore.

:haha: that's some scary shi- yo~

I am curious to know how do you face your fellow bro and sis in Christ? Did they judge your decision to marry a non-Christian? Are you active in church all these while and became less and less active after getting into the relationship?

Too bad very rarely we'll see the other party doesn't force one to convert. This is a major deal break for the most part. Pretty unfortunate, really.

Is it a big deal to convert? No

U still can eat pork...celebrate cny...drink some beer...

In fact u get more benefit like hvg a network of people to pray and offer support to u.

To be honest, one Christian must not fear on how his/her "brother/sister" in Christ perceive him as in individual simply because he/she marries a non-believer and these "brothers/sisters" must not make this Christian feels like he/she is being judged because if they do then they too have already breached the sanctity of Christianity. Only God can judge, I don't even think Jesus judged an individual at his own accord. It was all done in accordance to God's will.

For one, I don't need to man up to face them because I don't owe them anything. I owe my parents and my parents did not say a thing about what i have decided and supported me all the time. If a Christian decides on a matter solely because he/she fears the social/religious repercussions that he/she may face then 1) the religion is wrong or 2) the church that he/she has been attending is the wrong church.

I attribute the rising in divorce rate in Malaysia to this. People are more inclined into seeking religious salvation rather than what is good for themselves so they rather give up marrying someone who has a higher rate of compatibility because they are a non-believer and in turn, marry someone who is a believer but has much lesser compatibility rate JUST because for the sake of compliance. This is wrong because he/she has allowed religion to dictate how he/she lives his life properly.

Religion should be a guide rather than a dictator.

I don't go to church anymore but because of some obvious reasons (not because I married a non-believer). Maybe it is just me but 90% of the Christian that I met do not walk to talk. They could be 110% religious and holy in church but transformed into an absolute devil once they stepped out of church. Too many hypocrites.

Like the scriptures says, my body is the temple and as long as I believe in God, my church is with me.

Receipt for disaster
there are many cases where family relationship destroyed because of religion, especially from christianity.

I'm buddhist ,spouse is Christian.
No fuss.
Spouse can go church on sundays, totally fine with me - up to me whether to join or not.
Not to say religion is not important, but there are things in life that are above religion.
And our kids are free to choose their own beliefs as they grow.

now this, this is a sound advice that you should consider.

remember now, God advocates free will.

Rare stuff to be seen from your spouse.

my mum is buddhist and my father is christian. there's nothing wrong with it at all. depends on how strong u believe. no matter how strong we believe or pray doesn't make us more holier or nearer to god or somehow, disregard any religions, it's the good deeds that's matter what we did in our lifetime. Too deep into religion kills mankind.

This post has been edited by djandrew: Jun 20 2017, 02:13 PM

make it simple,
since u go church with her.
does she go temple with you?
if the answer 'no'.
then u know the answer already.

Either You convert to Christian or find a new girl.

Cause you will not able practising your own culture/religion anymore especially after marriage
For those especially family member passed away or ching ming.

your future child will unable to follow your culture/religion anymore also.

I'd advise you to move on. Changing partners is easier tham changing a person's faith.

if there is something dear to me then i want to share with my partner without forcing her to enjoy it.

we are talking about religion, not the "way of life" or something that a person do 24 hours. let's do an extreme analogy just to get my point across, assuming you are a Christian and your partner is a Taoist or Buddhist, does she have lighted incense in her hand everywhere she go? I'm sure she only goes to the temple on special occasions and it's perfectly fine not to join in those few days. You won't die neither would she.

honestly, I don't hold religion as dearly to me if compared to human relationship. Though I cherish my relationship with God but as far as my parents are still alive, I would prioritize on them. I am sure you would do so as well because I don't expect that you'd say something like "hey dad, sorry to hear about your stroke on Sunday morning. No worries, i'll come see you in the hospital after my Sunday service in church". If God promote such behaviour then I fear that either the church you are going to is satanic or the God you are worshiping is Satan himself.

your notion is a bit nonsensical to me. what you are advocating is segregation as a whole. it simple means, kids with same religion should hang out with other kids with the same religion because then only they shared the same interest o_O? apa logic itu? interests is borne within ourselves.

another stupid comparison, seriously. if i am a person who love dogs (which I am), i wouldn't mind if my partner is allergic to dogs because I would not do thing to elevate her allergies. I can still go to a dog park and play with people's dog. Loving something does not mean you NEED to have them. Damn man. Relationship is about tolerance and sacrifices, if either one wants to triumph over the other, go live in an island lor.

Sot plug. I go to church, my wife goes to temple on occasions. We are still happily married.

My wife's grandparents' passed away, I pay my respect to them at the altar by bowing but not offering any incense and I sometimes join in their Ching Ming events too. Ching Ming is just a gathering to help clean the cemetery la, not to go and get yourselves circumcised and converted.

I don't understand why 90& of the Chinese community here in Chinese equates converting to Christian means throwing away Chinese heritage and tradition.

Your child will be given the full spectrum of every religion, though as parents, you have the obligation let them know the true picture of everything. Let your kid decides what they want to do.

Why is that so difficult?

Another sound advice which I also agree. If even before all these speculation takes place, so many worries arises. Just leave her because for sure, OP cannot accept what comes next.

This post has been edited by shaniandras2787: Jun 20 2017, 09:54 PM

If you really love her :

Try to discuss with her, have faith in her and yourself

God willing to wait you to be accepted...

Wish you good luck bro.

If you still NOT really love her:

Go find new girl...

This post has been edited by sonic31s: Jun 20 2017, 09:58 PM

I see so many cases happen around me, but all of them is female part is the Christian.
they first will try to convert their bf/husband to Christian. if fail, they just brainwash and ensure their child is Christian.
cause mother has more time with kids.
Slowly all the husband give up to prevent the argument.

I wonder how you give a true picture of everything? especially religion?
if you are Christian, how much you know about buddhism, taoism, muslim and so on.
So you will bring them to all religion talk? bring them to monk, priest, imam or so on for them to have an experience?

Actually, alot of parent very upset after their child converted to other religion and forbidden them to offer any incense when going ching ming.
You will hear a lot of those noises of complaining at morning wet market when those aunties talk about it.
They sure will not complain in front of you.

actually, i wonder if the parent is Taoism while the only son is converted to Christianity.

If the parent with to have a full Taoism funeral when they die, (especially only 1 of the parent dead).

So do the son will still involve in the Taoism ceremony or totally against it?
Cause if involve, a lot of praying with incense, burning, wearing those special cloths and so on, especially the elder son.

I wonder what normally the converted son will do?
if the son do not follow, was it consider disrespect to his parent?

TS, sorry for being straightforward.

Stop the relationship now and move on.

I feel that she will not tolerate, everyday the church members will brainwash you to join them...of course they will stop annoy you when you join them...

all the best.