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havn quit.. last nite stil pumping sha'tar rep

maybe u can add me as fren in thau so can hookup some times.. she is not in loth

in game lah gal. Vylis is the name. haven't logged for the past 2 days though.

hi there...
allow me pointing out something for discussion.

1- as far as i concern a holy priest dont heal a holy paladin..(except there is nobody else to heal )
2- priest give shield n renew to party members except MT..thats noble and more that enough for most cases (except aoe pull), except he didnt have POM yet,
3- you dont have to feel disgusted(in capital letters) in your WoW life.. its not the priest that let you a holy paladin die..
4- theres alot of room for your group to improve, but always start by ourself...some of that i can think of is a) step infront and explain your idea and justify it... b) let the warrior build up agro and assist the warrior target..(forget the adds and let the priest die..ahaha) c) ask the priest to dps and you heal in healing gear, because u know u are better healer and didnt have healing problem in the room. d) call it..and find another group .

it is all come back to your group.. are you going to improvise and clear the instance or are you going to blame each other...

till then..enjoy.

There is a very fine line between improvising and blaming. It's whether the other player is open enough for suggestions or not.

I don't see the OP blaming anyone. He's wanting to know whether his reasoning was sound or not. He hasn't been nasty at this point and hasn't blame anyone at all.

As for the rest of us, ok, so we are harsh but it's even harsher in-game and on the WoW forums.

GLADYS COME!!!!

you want my epic healing mace? i havent bought it yet but i plan to buy it and +81 healing it and run around healers. (i can also do the +81 healing myself)

alamort:
1) as far as i concern, a healer, not just priest, should be healing people that are dying, whoever they are unless under very specific situations like eg:
nefarion priest calling, healer already being assigned specifically on only one guy (raiding, usually not applicable to 5mans), dalliah in arcatraz where by if the target gets the heal debuff, it will heal the boss if the target gets healed.

in your point, sure, the holy paladin can heal himself, but lets try switching up positions a bit, lets say, a holy paladin should never heal a priest, and currently, said priest is being pounded by 2-3 mobs, very close to dying, heals are being interrupted, fade is on cooldown, fear is on cooldown or mobs immuned/room packed with mobs to ultilize fear, tell me, let the priest die, or paladin heal him so he can live on? i believe, to every healer, the answer is obvious.

2) shield, despite how you may think, is NOT a mana effecient spell, even if its instant, its GCD also takes time, while simple flash heals while having 1.5sec cast, doesnt have a GCD attached to it. so its not as simple as "shield + renew and gg ur fixed" can save lives.

3) we arent talking about the priest letting the paladin die i believe, we're talking about the priest himself being stubborn, and at the same time, being "not-so-bright".

4) myremi replied

i once saw a holy pally bubbling himself just before a fight. he said that he didn't want to whacked.

i called him chicken mail wearer. then he stop doing it and focus on healing properly.

as a matter of fact, if the bubble was casted during or after the pull/aggro was made, hes actually accomplishing the opposite as PWS generates GLOBAL aggro. (not a high ammount though, but enough to get things on ur face because assumingly, the tank havent aggro'ed every mob pulled) /gg

=edit=
ah i just see that you said pally
assumed ur talkin bout priest considering the topic... how often he gets to bubble anyways lol

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 14 2007, 01:08 AM

WoW is a fun(but sometimes is not lol:P) that has a lot of variations and there is no right or wrong way imho..its just we know or we dont know yet..

while shield is NOT a mana efficient spell yes, and flash heal too lol.. but i dont see any disgusting action by shielding the paladin.. its help the paladin heal themselve or even bandage without interupting/pushback the casting..thats why its noble action.. he even renew ..

im just stating my opinion in regard the 'disgusting' incident..
i assume the run is done with pug where things like this are expected and should be expected.. and i've put some of my ideas...and there is always option 4.d)

OIC!!
i log in last nite but :<

come where. i came but u're not there !!

which epic ? karazan epic or sha'tar epic ?

i give u my whitemend hood n pants u give me 2000g la.
enchant with HH +35H7mp5. as well as pants n hood.


pally really over power... my <3 healadin green gear already +1.4H nvr out of mana(got me ma )... n nvr let usme down (DI FTW ! <3 repair bill) but he dono tio wat sickness... look kinda serious nvr on at all nowadays T.T
TS, maybe u can have some lecture from him FM ally -Isus- <<tanker die he di me alone heal tank dps boss in last 8 % n drop my D3 last pieces. unforgotable event.

sorry. forgot you play at CC. i log in after 11 pm last nite. i'll see you tonite. warning though : i'm seldom on. ><

erm.. i log in abt 2am last nite.. some office there n another 2 are up n we are crapping ard..

tonite wat time will u on ?

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Added on March 14, 2007, 12:13 pmbut on can only blow water only, im a lazy questing lowbie.. so, get vent/ts on ! <3 do u have mic? ask last nite that officer hmmmmm wat name is he ?? he will buy u one n mail to u : )

This post has been edited by Gladys: Mar 14 2007, 12:13 PM

i fully agree with what you said above, however i believe the discussion we have here is the priest mentally of "shield + renew and the guy's 110% not going to die or he die its his problem"

gladys: i am a rogue, and i am sha'tar exalted 999 due to crappy drop rate on my assassination helm

renew bcoz the priest is not shadow n no shadow in party to constanly regent pally mana. most of the time heroic boss fight with a renew or shadow holy pally can always save 1 mana pot.
but i dun bubble, i'll get agro coz of the reflected sometime. scrary.

then wat healing mace u wanna give me ? =.=
HH hornored->exalted my hammer belum drop. heart dead.

alamort : actually, i put that pally post up to deliberately change topic. but what Q mentioned is right though.

gladys : got vent and TS so no prob. i'm very very quiet in LoTH. don't think the casual peons will take kindly to a very low priest giving advice on how to run instances better. >.< only log in 2x. haha! met up with seen and didn't realise that Amidaru was mad_geist until I saw the siggy today. Issh...

oh and time ah? hmmm...what time is good for you? pick a time between 7 pm and 12 am. not after 12 am lah, i gotta work.

This post has been edited by myremi: Mar 14 2007, 01:16 PM

aiyak , make noisy only, they all lifeless wow player. i log in like 5 mins guild chat pop rate = 0.00 %

but vent or ts we use our own one. dun let them eavesdropping


how low is ur priest? im abt 20..

sorry for my post if im offence

i read through your post here, i understand that the priest you have is abit weak on group healing, maybe he/she not yet learn to fully group healing, but you do have wrong as well because you didnt concerntrate on the screen but instead putting blame on the priest not to heal you when you able to heal yourself and you put yourself as melee class and waiting for heal.

althrough my level for pally is still low but i do went for lowbie instance, i'm a retribution build but it happen everytime they ask me to be healer when my mana lower than a shammie -.-" but no choice cause we are team in group better no fighting cause problem.

did you use "righteous fury" when you fighting mobs? this skill cause 60% treatening but i know a war should taunt mostly but it depend sometime, skill cause problem.

your group had 2 priest, 1 shammie, 1 war and you(pally) actually this team is good on supporting heal most of time, from your post i see the lv70 priest doing nothing << bad bad priest!.
shammie lv59 is low but can be a good support too.

an advice for you, try not to depend on people so much when you were in group, i learned this when im a mages,especially when you can heal yourself.

How come nobody offered to buy and send mic to me one?

got . call da officer send u mic too !

but i forgot wat his name ler.. the only 'officer' last nite. he said he offer all 'girl' mic n send em.

and I thought RETardins dps were pathetic... now we have a holy paladin dpsing... Way to go! and what did you do to pull 3 mobs on you? consecrate? you should by now know that pre 70, almost nil warriors are specced for protection.

and again, Why the f*** are u dpsing on holy spec? if i want dpsers i get warlocks and mages...