and this is also why priests are whining about the patch notes, cuz they suck too much and even the slightest bit of even irrelevant nerf, they'd cry a river.

gg

to competant priests, blame these priest for making you guys look bad.

priest is the strongest healer in the game pve wise undisputed, if he cant heal as simple as two PLATE, bear in mind, PLATE classes, then he have to re-think about his class. perhaps a priest just aint his thing ye know?

get that said priest to read this forum, 10/10 saying he suck

feint is a skill that shouldnt exist in a rogue's spell book, rogues who feint need to:
- L2P
or
- get a better tank

there is vanish, and there are good tanks.

if the tank is good, feinting is only being retarded.

just to let you know, a feint only lowers the threat of my 3 hit autoattack, if i crit, only 2 hit.

if you still dont get it, basically the moment i feint, it only takes 1.90 (my dagger weapon speed) seconds should i crit my auto attack to regain the aggro i had prior to feint.

tell me, is it useful?

id rather save the energy to mutilate more, if im gonna pull aggro, i might as well squeeze in more dps before i pull it, and prolly still dps after i pull aggro if its on trash and i can kidney shot and still continue to mutilate.

so YOU L2P.

and have you partied with good prot warriors/feral druids? if ur feinting then, ur just gimping ur dp making you look like a clown on the dps meters.

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oh shi- EPIC DERAILMENT!

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 11 2007, 02:20 PM

i already rule it, i just push further, and more.

no limits.

and its not like its impossible to hold aggro so long you understand its mechanics, in fact, you can even abuse the aggro mechanic to a certain extent.

competant tanks have absolutely NO problem in holding my aggro, i dont see why i have to cap myself for no reason.

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well a lil clarification, i have been outdps'ed 6 times since BC is released, all 6 also by no more than 10% margin. and the one that did ~9% was wearing around 6 lvl70 BC epics mage, tank didnt had any problem holding his aggro either, and we did arcatraz in around 1 hour 20-30ish min, where an avg group would end you up 2-3 hours. so yeah, more dps, shorter run, everyone's happy.

bogardan: that is true, stacked classes in bc is kinda asking for it, but still, apparently the thread is being focused on how incompetant the priest is within the group.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 12 2007, 03:55 AM

you try and post it, and see what happens? famous rogues that pves will tell you what ive been telling. but i can also gurantee around 60% of the posts will be from noobs that will agree with you.

make me wrong will ya?

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Added on March 12, 2007, 7:05 pmQFT

now this man is a smartie man, unlike noobs around goin "LOLOOLOLOL FEINT IZ SKEEL"

also seen: yes, people shouldnt condemn the whole class because of a certain one idiot, but this is how the way it is and i do pity priest. those bad ones make the good ones look bad.

and sorry lazy to edit post, mods feel free to merge for me >.>

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nvm awesome, LYP auto merge post, gg

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 12 2007, 07:06 PM

not only rogues and warriors, works the same for every class as a matter of fact ^^

like for example, considering the topic at hand, ive partied with a priest that have 1.7k +healing, and some 12k mana... and moderately high spirit too... VERY hard to oom despite our speed pullings and everyone's health bar is greeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnn lol. only part where he mana actually drops to a noticeble point is on bosses (we doing mechanar and bosses at that instances is a lil "out of place" with their stupid aoes)

aggroboy: i already answered, i only need you to get the answers yourself, not asking you anything in return.

lol pally even worse, if only tank/1-2 guys taking dmg, they dont even have to drink thanks to overpowered illumination via flash spams. just stay above 90% mana all the time jumping around until someone takes dmg, blessings also dare to do it on boss cuz he knows mana aint an issue at all.

but their biggest weakness, if around or more than 2-3 ppl taking dmg, they're virtually useless, someone will have to die or potion/healthstone etc etc.

you want my epic healing mace? i havent bought it yet but i plan to buy it and +81 healing it and run around healers. (i can also do the +81 healing myself)

alamort:
1) as far as i concern, a healer, not just priest, should be healing people that are dying, whoever they are unless under very specific situations like eg:
nefarion priest calling, healer already being assigned specifically on only one guy (raiding, usually not applicable to 5mans), dalliah in arcatraz where by if the target gets the heal debuff, it will heal the boss if the target gets healed.

in your point, sure, the holy paladin can heal himself, but lets try switching up positions a bit, lets say, a holy paladin should never heal a priest, and currently, said priest is being pounded by 2-3 mobs, very close to dying, heals are being interrupted, fade is on cooldown, fear is on cooldown or mobs immuned/room packed with mobs to ultilize fear, tell me, let the priest die, or paladin heal him so he can live on? i believe, to every healer, the answer is obvious.

2) shield, despite how you may think, is NOT a mana effecient spell, even if its instant, its GCD also takes time, while simple flash heals while having 1.5sec cast, doesnt have a GCD attached to it. so its not as simple as "shield + renew and gg ur fixed" can save lives.

3) we arent talking about the priest letting the paladin die i believe, we're talking about the priest himself being stubborn, and at the same time, being "not-so-bright".

4) myremi replied

as a matter of fact, if the bubble was casted during or after the pull/aggro was made, hes actually accomplishing the opposite as PWS generates GLOBAL aggro. (not a high ammount though, but enough to get things on ur face because assumingly, the tank havent aggro'ed every mob pulled) /gg

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ah i just see that you said pally
assumed ur talkin bout priest considering the topic... how often he gets to bubble anyways lol

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 14 2007, 01:08 AM

i fully agree with what you said above, however i believe the discussion we have here is the priest mentally of "shield + renew and the guy's 110% not going to die or he die its his problem"

gladys: i am a rogue, and i am sha'tar exalted 999 due to crappy drop rate on my assassination helm

gladys: the epic +282? healing mace from sha'tar exalted

and to the recent replies: l2read?