there is vanish, and there are good tanks.

if the tank is good, feinting is only being retarded.

just to let you know, a feint only lowers the threat of my 3 hit autoattack, if i crit, only 2 hit.

if you still dont get it, basically the moment i feint, it only takes 1.90 (my dagger weapon speed) seconds should i crit my auto attack to regain the aggro i had prior to feint.

tell me, is it useful?

id rather save the energy to mutilate more, if im gonna pull aggro, i might as well squeeze in more dps before i pull it, and prolly still dps after i pull aggro if its on trash and i can kidney shot and still continue to mutilate.

so YOU L2P.

and have you partied with good prot warriors/feral druids? if ur feinting then, ur just gimping ur dp making you look like a clown on the dps meters.

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oh shi- EPIC DERAILMENT!

wait...so your entire motivation to not feint is to rule the damage meters? ummm...<speechless>

I've joined a party to go to Blood Furnace, and never in my life in WoW has got any DISGUSTED..

Party Info ( a lvl 61 warrior, lvl 59 shaman (enchance spec), lvl 64 priest (holy spec), lvl 70 priest (he did nothingin there, he just mc'ing and dps) and a lvl 63 pally (tat's me)

In the instances, things were going allright, i died once because i dont know why, the warrior aren't tanking well coz i grabbed his aggro lol (take note: i'm just holy spec), and the priest lvl 64 said he didn't heal / can't heal me in time because he will only focus on MT (main tank) and will heal me the last.. OMFG I've been healing in instances since lvl 60 in OUTLAND since i'm holy, all the party i've been that there's no priest around and I have no problem healing 2 MT / OFFTANK.. the only problem I have is sometimes I have to take care of the casters..

It's ok I died once, nvm.. We go on until The Maker, everything went on so well.. until the room we going to kill that BIG HEADY BOSS.. Here is the most funniest thing going on..

(Take note: In this room we must kill each of the mobs fast enuff to prevent respawn)

After we pulled the trigger, first room come out, as far as I know this room has no elites, so we can clear them fast to prevent respawn.. But something very funny happened..

This 2 priest and the warrior.. keep on fearing them.. this is where is start to get "pening" .. the warrior keep on chasing the feared ones, tat lvl 70 priest mc'ing 1, reducing in time killing and as i expected, the respawn came out, then they fear again and i was like "OMFG THEY AREN'T ELITES CAN'T WE JUST KILL THEM FAST?" .. I was chasing them to kill and I was like jesus when we did clear the room 1, then room 2 come out, same tactics they fear again!!! this time the elites.. the warrior didn't kill fast enuff, and I dont know why am I getting all the aggro since he's tanking (take note = i'm only holy build) then I died ?? zzz (take note divine shield still on cd because there is an aggro b4 thanks to the priest lvl 70 mc'ing in the middle of the room with pats coming).. as usual, more elites spawn out becoz of the time we took to kill those elites >.<

The priest (lvl 64) said he only will heal MT and if me, he only put shield and renew and that's all =D, BUT WHEN I'M DEAD, he has a full shot of mana to heal the whole party in the end =D but not me =D.. I can't accept that kind of damn fact.. Since I'm getting all the aggro, the warrior HP shud be no problem, and the priest should have common sense to heal who needed the most..

Yes they fear to replenish their mana, but in the end, we can't even pass room 2 (wipe in the end)..

I have run this BF so many times, and never get any trouble in this room.. All is going very well, no fearing needed and i'm the only healer and till the boss come out i still have half full bar of mana to heal that tanker fight like GOD LIKE..

The thing I can't accept is "Priest dont heal who needed the most" .. and " shield + renew = ok i'm done with you, bye "

To all priest out there, I have no offense to priest healing.. But when you're in party, will you concentrate only the MT and not the whole party?

For me, I have no problem in healing 2 at the same time.. ^^ (maybe becoz I have illumination, but priest mana bar and regen should be better than me)

It's kinda a cop-out right? If you steal aggro because you refuse to feint, you just blame the tank not being competent enough.

Try to post in the rogue forums that "People who feint need to L2P" and you'll probably get flamed to death.

u should play a warr girl

so i can shield u make u no rage n poke till morning - night - moring - night.

like wait u till my hair growth white ..

It's kinda a cop-out right? If you steal aggro because you refuse to feint, you just blame the tank not being competent enough.

Try to post in the rogue forums that "People who feint need to L2P" and you'll probably get flamed to death.

Most of the times(about 95% of the encounter including instance/raid trash mobs),you dont need to use feint.
learn to vanish,understand threat mechanic or install KTM will help.

you try and post it, and see what happens? famous rogues that pves will tell you what ive been telling. but i can also gurantee around 60% of the posts will be from noobs that will agree with you.

make me wrong will ya?

rogue players are like warrior players. when they're good, they're very good. when they're not, wipe.

then again, L2P is not as easy as it sounds. just team with SL with a lvl70 fire mage that is carrying a +52 str staff and using her carrot on a stick trinklet. adoi.

like for example, considering the topic at hand, ive partied with a priest that have 1.7k +healing, and some 12k mana... and moderately high spirit too... VERY hard to oom despite our speed pullings and everyone's health bar is greeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnn lol. only part where he mana actually drops to a noticeble point is on bosses (we doing mechanar and bosses at that instances is a lil "out of place" with their stupid aoes)