I've joined a party to go to Blood Furnace, and never in my life in WoW has got any DISGUSTED..

Party Info ( a lvl 61 warrior, lvl 59 shaman (enchance spec), lvl 64 priest (holy spec), lvl 70 priest (he did nothingin there, he just mc'ing and dps) and a lvl 63 pally (tat's me)

In the instances, things were going allright, i died once because i dont know why, the warrior aren't tanking well coz i grabbed his aggro lol (take note: i'm just holy spec), and the priest lvl 64 said he didn't heal / can't heal me in time because he will only focus on MT (main tank) and will heal me the last.. OMFG I've been healing in instances since lvl 60 in OUTLAND since i'm holy, all the party i've been that there's no priest around and I have no problem healing 2 MT / OFFTANK.. the only problem I have is sometimes I have to take care of the casters..

It's ok I died once, nvm.. We go on until The Maker, everything went on so well.. until the room we going to kill that BIG HEADY BOSS.. Here is the most funniest thing going on..

(Take note: In this room we must kill each of the mobs fast enuff to prevent respawn)

After we pulled the trigger, first room come out, as far as I know this room has no elites, so we can clear them fast to prevent respawn.. But something very funny happened..

This 2 priest and the warrior.. keep on fearing them.. this is where is start to get "pening" .. the warrior keep on chasing the feared ones, tat lvl 70 priest mc'ing 1, reducing in time killing and as i expected, the respawn came out, then they fear again and i was like "OMFG THEY AREN'T ELITES CAN'T WE JUST KILL THEM FAST?" .. I was chasing them to kill and I was like jesus when we did clear the room 1, then room 2 come out, same tactics they fear again!!! this time the elites.. the warrior didn't kill fast enuff, and I dont know why am I getting all the aggro since he's tanking (take note = i'm only holy build) then I died ?? zzz (take note divine shield still on cd because there is an aggro b4 thanks to the priest lvl 70 mc'ing in the middle of the room with pats coming).. as usual, more elites spawn out becoz of the time we took to kill those elites >.<

The priest (lvl 64) said he only will heal MT and if me, he only put shield and renew and that's all =D, BUT WHEN I'M DEAD, he has a full shot of mana to heal the whole party in the end =D but not me =D.. I can't accept that kind of damn fact.. Since I'm getting all the aggro, the warrior HP shud be no problem, and the priest should have common sense to heal who needed the most..

Yes they fear to replenish their mana, but in the end, we can't even pass room 2 (wipe in the end)..

I have run this BF so many times, and never get any trouble in this room.. All is going very well, no fearing needed and i'm the only healer and till the boss come out i still have half full bar of mana to heal that tanker fight like GOD LIKE..

The thing I can't accept is "Priest dont heal who needed the most" .. and " shield + renew = ok i'm done with you, bye "

To all priest out there, I have no offense to priest healing.. But when you're in party, will you concentrate only the MT and not the whole party?

For me, I have no problem in healing 2 at the same time.. ^^ (maybe becoz I have illumination, but priest mana bar and regen should be better than me)

This post has been edited by wowplayer2007: Mar 9 2007, 07:47 PM

and this is also why priests are whining about the patch notes, cuz they suck too much and even the slightest bit of even irrelevant nerf, they'd cry a river.

gg

to competant priests, blame these priest for making you guys look bad.

that priest who dps is doing the right thing since your party do lack of dps..
and you can heal yourself right? im not defending the priest...just chill out

you could always heal yourself anyway

yes you can heal if there's like 3-5 attacking you and sometimes (shield bash, AI in instances recently has been upgraded, they know how to prevent you from casting spells =D) and your hp drop like mad and no mobs there's dead when they are 3 others dps-ing > . <

well if the priest has full mana and the mobs are all on you, that means the warrior is free of mob, y can't the priest heal you?

i'm on your side in this case

if i were you, i'd post this up on the WoW Realm Forums and just blurt out the priest name.

yes, i am that devious. i can't make a change here in Lowyat much but I can leave a nasty sting on the server.

thanks guys I got what u guys mean.. i felt cleared..

actually the answer I wanna know is it very hard for priest to keep a MT and OFF TANK alive ? Any priest here can give me an answer? Is it a very hard job to just heal 2 person? I dont have problem healing 2 person atm at OUTLAND instances so far.. He doesn't need to heal the shammy and the priest.. since they dont take any damage at all.. Just me and the warrior.. Is it that hard?

the reason I'm posting this, coz the priest (lvl 64) happen to be my friend, and he keep on debating that he's right, I'm wrong..

This post has been edited by wowplayer2007: Mar 10 2007, 12:32 AM

that's retarded, if he has the resources to heal then he damn well should for the interest of the whole party

priest is the strongest healer in the game pve wise undisputed, if he cant heal as simple as two PLATE, bear in mind, PLATE classes, then he have to re-think about his class. perhaps a priest just aint his thing ye know?

If your friend is only thinking of using Shield and Renew, then he needs to rethink his healing tactics. At the same time, only keeping 2 people up? Sounds like he's not confident in his healing capabilities at all to keep the entire team up. Usually means that he knows his limitations but from what you're telling me now, he doesn't know how to gear up to play his class well at all.

And having to always fear, that's being too cowardly but that's just me. Fear is a panic button and mobs will come back to whack him (frankly, I think he deserves it). Unless ppl are ready to pick up the mob, there's no point in him having to fear. Methinks he fear of dying himself and not the team.

Geez...two priests = two MC. Why didn't he just do it with the level 70? Would be easy to take out 2 mobs. Sigh. Anyway, here's a link to a posting on beginner's healing. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...=12733826&sid=1

When I started BC instances, I stopped looking for priests and went looking for Pally Healers. Better chances of survival since the outland bosses and instance trash mobs hit harder.

As for the DPS not being enough, it's probably coz the other players don't have good gear or just not good skills. Example : a Lvl50 shammy dualwielding 2 maces is keeping up on Damage Meters against a Lvl65 Feral Druid in BC outfit. So it's entirely possible to have good DPS churnout provided you get good players and good gear

Being a priest is easy. Try being a Feral Druid and doing healing. Now that's a challenge.

Being a rogue, I've been in some instance where the priests flatly refused to heal me and will only heal the mt. The reason? I'm a mana sink and I will still die in 1 ~ 2 hits in dungeons no matter if the priest heal me or not.

Stupid 360 cleave and instant aoe!!

You got a sucky priest.

From what you've described, I think it's more like a party issue, i.e. players' issues.

zzzzzzz

get that said priest to read this forum, 10/10 saying he suck

The road to recovery is knowing that one is no longer in denial. That priest sounds extremely hard-headed.

Good luck wowplayer2007.

the priest u have is a sucky one...no doubt a priest has to keep his party members at all cost no matter who they are, MT are usually the main priority. if the mt and dps are in the red life region, i would heal the MT first, then the dps.

usually i dont have problem with rogues as most rogue i partied with so far knows how to feint and control their dps. My main problem is usually mages, cuz i really hate to waste extra mana to cast a shield on my party members (they really burn extra mana, compared to normal heals/renew). i would try to use renew on MT as much as possible, and flash heal later on when the MT has less than half life. And do bear in mind that I was a shadow priest, so i have significantly less mana compared to disc priests.

and to me, shield is really not a good spell to use, cuz of the mana cost.for the cost of 2 shields u can prolly cast up to 3 flash heals.

This post has been edited by SnoWFisH: Mar 10 2007, 10:01 PM

feint is a skill that shouldnt exist in a rogue's spell book, rogues who feint need to:
- L2P
or
- get a better tank

Rogues who don't use feint need to L2P. Period! Blizzard gives you a tool to lower your threat while fighting monster. Use it!

This post has been edited by Dharcness: Mar 11 2007, 11:55 AM

there is vanish, and there are good tanks.

if the tank is good, feinting is only being retarded.

just to let you know, a feint only lowers the threat of my 3 hit autoattack, if i crit, only 2 hit.

if you still dont get it, basically the moment i feint, it only takes 1.90 (my dagger weapon speed) seconds should i crit my auto attack to regain the aggro i had prior to feint.

tell me, is it useful?

id rather save the energy to mutilate more, if im gonna pull aggro, i might as well squeeze in more dps before i pull it, and prolly still dps after i pull aggro if its on trash and i can kidney shot and still continue to mutilate.

so YOU L2P.

and have you partied with good prot warriors/feral druids? if ur feinting then, ur just gimping ur dp making you look like a clown on the dps meters.

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oh shi- EPIC DERAILMENT!

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 11 2007, 02:20 PM

wait...so your entire motivation to not feint is to rule the damage meters? ummm...<speechless>