QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jun 8 2017, 04:23 PM)
JFTECH?2 previous quarters were quite good. A tournaround stock?
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Jun 8 2017, 04:28 PM
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Lol. Yea turnaround stocks. Any guideline on how to tackle turnaround stocks? Like do one wait 2 quarters of showing good profit to jump in or something?
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QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Jun 8 2017, 04:18 PM) Wow, so many rallies this year. All those above and GE rally, MYR rally, Bank rally, and Corporate Restructure Rally in the news Back on to the current malaysian election stocks.I need to do my revision on what were reported before by analysts during 2013 I believe RHB made a long veggie list, consisting of stocks for potential election play last year. As early as Nov 2016. (see the contrast in the star article?) Now compare stocks like FGV. Use Nov 11 as start date. If buta follow RHB and buy FGV at the closing price of 1.96 or better still, use the lowest price of the day, 1.90. Price today? Take a past favorite. Prestariang. Price then? 2.33. Price now? 2.12. Or DRB. Price then 1.23. This one handsome boy but some might argued its up due to asset play situations. and so on and so on..... How? Till now still no election kambing.... and in general if simply follow RHB... isn't it much better to ask Miss Kambing to throw some darts? |
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QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Jun 8 2017, 04:34 PM) Financial Year 2016 was quite bad Not sure if there is an update on their court case in US?2 Quarters shown better results, but i don't understand why all the hype for 6M Revenue per quarter company I need to check their bussiness model They are accused of stealing IP |
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jun 9 2017, 08:15 PM) Boon gor u also holding this? Haha... Haha! Me holding? You should know that I do not talk about what stocks I hold. History repeats itself. Looking good! Sold half at 0.32 and holding half as long as the next quarter looks good. Hehehe Selling at 32..... I understand many like to use this self half strategy.... I don't. For example, 32 doesn't look like a selling point and for me, you are selling just for the sake of selling. If I have this one.... I would probably just sit on it. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 10 2017, 12:23 AM) Haha! Me holding? You should know that I do not talk about what stocks I hold. Yes. I wanted to take same profit first by selling half of my holding as people are too bullish with semicon.Selling at 32..... I understand many like to use this self half strategy.... I don't. For example, 32 doesn't look like a selling point and for me, you are selling just for the sake of selling. If I have this one.... I would probably just sit on it. i forsee this year will be an amazing year for frontkn after reading their qr, annual report and news but this stock is just going too fast imho which in turn got me nervous as a stock will go down for correction right? By realised half of the profit, i felt much safer. Mind to explain why u would just sit on it? Riding the uptrend? Is it because of it breaking its new high days after days? I remember of you saying if a stock breaks its high and create new high, one should hold? This post has been edited by twhong_91: Jun 10 2017, 01:16 AM |
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jun 10 2017, 01:14 AM) Yes. I wanted to take same profit first by selling half of my holding as people are too bullish with semicon. You will always need other bullish people. i forsee this year will be an amazing year for frontkn after reading their qr, annual report and news but this stock is just going too fast imho which in turn got me nervous as a stock will go down for correction right? By realised half of the profit, i felt much safer. Mind to explain why u would just sit on it? Riding the uptrend? Is it because of it breaking its new high days after days? I remember of you saying if a stock breaks its high and create new high, one should hold? Stocks are basically not kia cars. They no kaki kia. Some check points. 1. Is valuation out of whack? 2. Any deep fundamental concerns/risks? 3. Stock technical sell indicators? ( I might be relax on this if the uptrend is rather solid ) Etc etc.... Always better to work on your own niche. Just don't sell for the sake of selling as this usually ends up with deep regrets of seeing stock multiplying after you sell. Good stocks don't come easily, so if we catch one and the future prospects remain rosy, don't be afraid to hold on to it a bit longer. (Remember.. there is no rule that says the next stock you jump into will be as good.) My 3 Sen la.... who knows your one might be better than mine one. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 10 2017, 10:44 AM) You will always need other bullish people. I see but you have never shared yours wor boon. who knows yours is actually a better ones?' Stocks are basically not kia cars. They no kaki kia. Some check points. 1. Is valuation out of whack? 2. Any deep fundamental concerns/risks? 3. Stock technical sell indicators? ( I might be relax on this if the uptrend is rather solid ) Etc etc.... Always better to work on your own niche. Just don't sell for the sake of selling as this usually ends up with deep regrets of seeing stock multiplying after you sell. Good stocks don't come easily, so if we catch one and the future prospects remain rosy, don't be afraid to hold on to it a bit longer. (Remember.. there is no rule that says the next stock you jump into will be as good.) My 3 Sen la.... who knows your one might be better than mine one. its always nice to read your comment here as i found it very useful and a good learning opportunity from you. anyway, I switched my bullet to another potential gem. Outstanding Qr after Qr, PE is only 7.86. Chart is looking good, as selling pressure seems to be depleted and in a consolidated state before shooting up. There is a potential 10% gain or higher if they have an outstanding Qr this coming August 2017. |
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jun 10 2017, 04:06 PM) I see but you have never shared yours wor boon. who knows yours is actually a better ones?' But overall you roughly know my style.its always nice to read your comment here as i found it very useful and a good learning opportunity from you. anyway, I switched my bullet to another potential gem. Trade fewer stocks, fewer frequencies. Switching tends to lead to careless mistakes. That's my observations. Maybe it's me. The reason is one tends to find the urge to switch. It's just pure impulse. The stock they have sits on nice profit. The urge to switch causes the trader to sell just in order to facilitate the trade switch.. The stock they switch to, ends 'early'... stock endures few months of uo and down, not going anywhere.... and the stock they switched from, shoots up another 50%.... sometimes even more. Seen far too often. It's also one my mistakes during my early paper trading years..... I know, sometimes, holding on to the stock can be frustrating.... I once, endured a stock that was up close to 50%... but somehow the stock...that blardee stock .... went into a much deeper correction that I had anticipated.... maybe I err-ed my technical assessment of the stock... and boy oh boy.... before you know it... I carried close to a 5% loss for the stock.... Yeah.... shit happens.... However, luckily for me, my assessment of its future prospect was spot on.... and rest was history.... made close to a 2 bagger. Luck I guess.... Now this new one.... this 'new gem'.... of yours.... your concern is the sustainability of its profits growth. Basically it's a turnaround stock. Profits are finally returning back to its glory years... 3 solid years of turning around... (you highlighted the strong uptrend in the stock) So perhaps you might consider the risk of sustainability.... Can the earnings continue to grow? In short... are you maybe a bit too late to play this one game? Thanks for sharing anyway..... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 10 2017, 06:17 PM) But overall you roughly know my style. Thanks for sharing. Its indeed frustrating when your stock is stagnant but others are going up. Haha... the art of selling is really hard. Trade fewer stocks, fewer frequencies. Switching tends to lead to careless mistakes. That's my observations. Maybe it's me. The reason is one tends to find the urge to switch. It's just pure impulse. The stock they have sits on nice profit. The urge to switch causes the trader to sell just in order to facilitate the trade switch.. The stock they switch to, ends 'early'... stock endures few months of uo and down, not going anywhere.... and the stock they switched from, shoots up another 50%.... sometimes even more. Seen far too often. It's also one my mistakes during my early paper trading years..... I know, sometimes, holding on to the stock can be frustrating.... I once, endured a stock that was up close to 50%... but somehow the stock...that blardee stock .... went into a much deeper correction that I had anticipated.... maybe I err-ed my technical assessment of the stock... and boy oh boy.... before you know it... I carried close to a 5% loss for the stock.... Yeah.... shit happens.... However, luckily for me, my assessment of its future prospect was spot on.... and rest was history.... made close to a 2 bagger. Luck I guess.... Now this new one.... this 'new gem'.... of yours.... your concern is the sustainability of its profits growth. Basically it's a turnaround stock. Profits are finally returning back to its glory years... 3 solid years of turning around... (you highlighted the strong uptrend in the stock) So perhaps you might consider the risk of sustainability.... Can the earnings continue to grow? In short... are you maybe a bit too late to play this one game? Thanks for sharing anyway..... :thumbsup: I reckon i should not have sold frontkn as its fundamental remains intacted. Will heed your advice. Initially i planned to hold it for a year but then i saw a blogger saying it is wise to take some profits if your stock is making some good returns which was the reason i sold half of frontkn. Now the gem of mine, seems like you know this stock huh. Haha. Yes the past year, the revenue was really impressive and sustainability will be a question as i really dont know whether they can sustain it. However, i like the business model as i m in the sales industry and i know many people tend to lend money from licensed money lenders and majority of them are government servants. The business model amazes me where they loan an amount of money to government servants and the payment method will be deducted every month automatically from the gross before transferring the balance to the lenders' bank account, which is known as angkasa loan. This quarter is hari raya and i forsee the revenue will be increased as people do need to get some money right to spend on hari raya. With the predicted increased revenue and secured trade receivables, low PE compared to Aeon. Why not give it a try right? Aeon is not to my liking as they do have many bad debts where people dont pay back some installment. On the other hand, for this potential gem its repayment method is quite secured. Haha. |
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jun 10 2017, 06:35 PM) Thanks for sharing. Its indeed frustrating when your stock is stagnant but others are going up. Haha... the art of selling is really hard. Ah.... 'listening to a blogger'.... I reckon i should not have sold frontkn as its fundamental remains intacted. Will heed your advice. Initially i planned to hold it for a year but then i saw a blogger saying it is wise to take some profits if your stock is making some good returns which was the reason i sold half of frontkn. Now the gem of mine, seems like you know this stock huh. Haha. Yes the past year, the revenue was really impressive and sustainability will be a question as i really dont know whether they can sustain it. However, i like the business model as i m in the sales industry and i know many people tend to lend money from licensed money lenders and majority of them are government servants. The business model amazes me where they loan an amount of money to government servants and the payment method will be deducted every month automatically from the gross before transferring the balance to the lenders' bank account, which is known as angkasa loan. This quarter is hari raya and i forsee the revenue will be increased as people do need to get some money right to spend on hari raya. With the predicted increased revenue and secured trade receivables, low PE compared to Aeon. Why not give it a try right? Aeon is not to my liking as they do have many bad debts where people dont pay back some installment. On the other hand, for this potential gem its repayment method is quite secured. Haha. You should develop your own strength. Listening to others could mess you up (me included Anyway... it's past already. You took half profit already. What I would suggest is mark this one trade down into your 555 book for future reference. Keep track of your success and those not so successful. See where you can improve yourself. hehe.... for stock whose earnings are growing (or turning around) , it's better to know what stage of the growth you are in. Growth do not last forever and usually after a robust growth period, growth tends to slows...... this is my general believe. ps: anyway, your reasoning process is well thought out. well done and good luck to your new trade. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 10 2017, 06:49 PM) Ah.... 'listening to a blogger'.... Ok boon gor. Lets see. You should develop your own strength. Listening to others could mess you up (me included Anyway... it's past already. You took half profit already. What I would suggest is mark this one trade down into your 555 book for future reference. Keep track of your success and those not so successful. See where you can improve yourself. hehe.... for stock whose earnings are growing (or turning around) , it's better to know what stage of the growth you are in. Growth do not last forever and usually after a robust growth period, growth tends to slows...... this is my general believe. ps: anyway, your reasoning process is well thought out. well done and good luck to your new trade. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 10 2017, 06:17 PM) But overall you roughly know my style. Boon, so if you did not err-ed back then, you would have exited already?Trade fewer stocks, fewer frequencies. Switching tends to lead to careless mistakes. That's my observations. Maybe it's me. The reason is one tends to find the urge to switch. It's just pure impulse. The stock they have sits on nice profit. The urge to switch causes the trader to sell just in order to facilitate the trade switch.. The stock they switch to, ends 'early'... stock endures few months of uo and down, not going anywhere.... and the stock they switched from, shoots up another 50%.... sometimes even more. Seen far too often. It's also one my mistakes during my early paper trading years..... I know, sometimes, holding on to the stock can be frustrating.... I once, endured a stock that was up close to 50%... but somehow the stock...that blardee stock .... went into a much deeper correction that I had anticipated.... maybe I err-ed my technical assessment of the stock... and boy oh boy.... before you know it... I carried close to a 5% loss for the stock.... Yeah.... shit happens.... However, luckily for me, my assessment of its future prospect was spot on.... and rest was history.... made close to a 2 bagger. Luck I guess.... Now this new one.... this 'new gem'.... of yours.... your concern is the sustainability of its profits growth. Basically it's a turnaround stock. Profits are finally returning back to its glory years... 3 solid years of turning around... (you highlighted the strong uptrend in the stock) So perhaps you might consider the risk of sustainability.... Can the earnings continue to grow? In short... are you maybe a bit too late to play this one game? Thanks for sharing anyway..... |
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