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hehe86	Mar 7 2017, 04:56 PM Return to original view \| Post #1
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 6 2017, 12:02 PM) 1) chase the damn breakout 2) let it breakout, then only add up when stock consolidates Boon, wanna ask for no1, how far do you chase normally? (applies to any breakout stock). And no matter how high one chase, for this stock, the stop loss should be around 2.48 right? For no2, if wait for consolidates, the stop loss will be different and the price usually won't be around the breakout price already right? Unless it pullback ya? QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 6 2017, 04:54 PM) Have to say this hor .... (since I am posting quite a few charts here and there) Dear stalkers/silent readers... I post charts for chatting only... If you buy just cos of the charts.... and you lose money.... please look for Gark. I think can put this disclaimer in the first post to avoid any blaming or etc things happened p.s: haram after 5 pages only i realize got this new thread =.="
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hehe86	Mar 7 2017, 07:38 PM Return to original view \| Post #2
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2017, 07:26 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1. Dunno how to reply you. There are so many ways to thread a breakout. Did you try google? 2. You answered yourself, no? Good answer, ya? LOL! Harloo .. Paper trade laaaah. What's wrong with paper trading? Feeling too egoistic? Feeling rich and silly? So rich that you feel like its OK to trade and trade and trade with real money and not giving a care to any possible losses? You wanna be one of those who lost more than 100k in the share market? See.. For 1. ONLY by paper trading, you GET TO DEVELOP your own trading skills, YOUR VERY OWN TRADING EDGE. You will learn which is YOUR BEST OWN PERSONAL method to trade a breakout. And you will learn which method causes you to make the most mistakes. REMEMBER not everyone is the same. MY SKILL SET and yours will be totally different. I can read you how to trade this and that off the books but if those methods do not suit your style of trading, what's the point? Say if my trading is based on a longer time frame, my method of chasing a breakout will be different. If you are a pro daytrader, your method of chasing the breakout will be different too. YOU WILL ONLY DISCOVER WHAT'S YOUR BEST SKILL SET BY PRACTICING VIA FAKE TRADING. and the best part of the exercise... it doesn't cost you a shit load of money when you make a mistake. fyi .... I STILL DO FAKE TRADING. Haha, well, i ask because sometimes thru asking, one can learn much faster lo. Of course if you state your method, is still up to me to either tweak it into my method or analyze that is it suitable to me lo. Of course wont blindly follow lo Paper trade or what not, one should be continuously trade with an open mind to learn and may/may not change according to the market lo. But still, i thought my question no1 is a simple question which referring to 'your' method lo. Haha google lain cerita liao ma T_T I also get it if you prefer not to state your method wan ma...
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hehe86	Mar 8 2017, 04:00 PM Return to original view \| Post #3
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	ini tarak bagus ka, unisem
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hehe86	Mar 8 2017, 04:04 PM Return to original view \| Post #4
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Mar 8 2017, 04:03 PM) sudah breakout very high...dont chase the high....we dont know if its already near its top for the time being.... chase the breakout, wait for pullback, or wait for consolidation?
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hehe86	Mar 8 2017, 04:44 PM Return to original view \| Post #5
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Mar 8 2017, 04:15 PM) u late already... this massive pivot resistance line for 6 month sudah breakout... u see the buying volume also slowly exhausted already.... just wait few days u will see the price consolidate. u want to enter also kira fibonacci retracement ratio first wants it hit that low u can masuk in tranches.... but for me this counter already hit its highest price point in shortest time possible... next uptrend the gain wont be this great.... Yea only noticed this after it brokeout. So now with the buying volume exhausted, will see how the price react is the best course of action. Tried fibo before but doesn't really suits me though. Most likely will paper trade this one.
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hehe86	Mar 8 2017, 04:46 PM Return to original view \| Post #6
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	Dialog PE >20 lo.... Erm.. do correct me if i shouldn't use FA ratio when we're discussing bout its TA...
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hehe86	Mar 8 2017, 05:04 PM Return to original view \| Post #7
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 8 2017, 04:55 PM) Since when I care the last time? The last Traders Koptiam was open for how many years? Did I say no PE, FA etc etc? Just don't go be a jerk and try talking like an investor in a traders forum ma.... Some stocks have a relative high PE over its time span... Question is ... 1. Did it not deserve it? when others OnG players (like fabricators and what not) ... they got hit bad .... and huge losses were recorded... How did Dialog do? Check out Dialog's last 10 years profits... Does it not deserve its premium pricing? 2. If unsure, there's a simple thing you can do... (shit... I am not hard selling this DIE stock... ) check the PE band range over the last 5 years. 3. Check out the growth rate. 4. Do some profit estimations for the coming quarters/years this one ask Ah Gark Gor Gor etc etc etc.... in short... some stocks can fly despite its high PE alright, wanna confirm so that won't be stepping on the wrong toes Betul juga, still making profits.
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hehe86	Mar 8 2017, 07:49 PM Return to original view \| Post #8
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Mar 8 2017, 07:39 PM) I kena few times before coz follow greed chase that high point...rugi big amount but my profit in other trades cover it la.... I only permit u buy on high once it cross not more than 5% of the pivot resistance line. Same as what Jesse Livermore advice. My style currently is heavy on Elliot wave theory and fibo.... ill enter during pullback of wave 2 and 4....wave 1 very hard to get into unless u do ur research well and anticipate/focus closely on any single stock.... Usually the insider/big shark will initiate the 1st rally...the pullback will be their profit taking and the next rally will be drive by technical/fundamentalist...the 3rd rally is usually novice/public.... Anyway this is just my POV looking at the market currently oh, if i take 2.8, 5% is not more than 2.94... yea for stocks, is kinda hard to get into the first wave unless you've been monitoring it closely. So best is to wait for pullbacks/consolidation. sure any POV is welcome bro
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hehe86	Mar 9 2017, 06:51 PM Return to original view \| Post #9
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	Market sentiment today most likely because of the oil dropped quite heong
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hehe86	Mar 24 2017, 07:11 AM Return to original view \| Post #10
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 24 2017, 06:42 AM) .......in all the king fu movies that i can remember, the sifu usually die one........... I do not want to die ..................... so please no sifu sifu here Ip man no die isnt it? lol
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hehe86	Mar 24 2017, 03:02 PM Return to original view \| Post #11
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 24 2017, 11:05 AM) gark Ascending triangle breakout. 2 prices not even traded ni, adoi
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hehe86	Mar 24 2017, 03:35 PM Return to original view \| Post #12
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 24 2017, 03:15 PM) Adoi.... Why you simply follow? Me and Ah Gark tok ayam only ..... Lol tarak follow also. Boleh paper trade also ma Edit: wanna improve my S/R trading This post has been edited by hehe86: Mar 24 2017, 03:36 PM
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hehe86	Mar 24 2017, 07:29 PM Return to original view \| Post #13
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 24 2017, 07:28 PM) Hahaha...make sure it's just paper trading. Why you so hung up on S&R ? Do you really see me use such stuff? Haha itu you ma. I find it chart pattern quite subjective for me. So far S/R makes the most sense to me. So gonna try to stick with it and see how it goes loooooooooooooooo Edit: Either breakout or S/R rejection see which one works better for 'me' lol This post has been edited by hehe86: Mar 24 2017, 07:44 PM
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hehe86	Mar 24 2017, 07:50 PM Return to original view \| Post #14
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 24 2017, 07:44 PM) For S&R, what's your play target? The R? Either breakout or S/R rejection plays. In this case is a breakout play lo
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hehe86	Mar 27 2017, 03:25 PM Return to original view \| Post #15
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 27 2017, 11:37 AM) This is failed la...... Hmm i thought 895 still a previous breakout price, so wouldn't you hold at least it drops back to 895? But those few orevious candlestick not so pretty though. I normally would still maintain my SL and only trail once a price structure has been formed. Hmm
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hehe86	Mar 27 2017, 04:59 PM Return to original view \| Post #16
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 27 2017, 04:44 PM) From my learning pasts... I have always preferred to be in control of my trades. I did not like the way the stock was trading after I entered. Tarak ommph.... And also taking into consideration of HOLDING COMPANIES ( I cannot STRESS how important this issue is) ... and the history of Insas, as a stock.... I am not comfortable at all with how the stock was trading.... and NO i do not believe in letting FATE decide the success of my trading.... anyway.... again that's me.... (u seem to want to follow me exact... this is a no-no la ) Ok so the main point is to also take note of the company's stock pattern/behavior too Follow u... I will follow u... No matter where may go... I follow I follow I follow lalalala No la, wanna know what's your thought process behind that only lo. Dont think too much
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hehe86	Mar 27 2017, 06:39 PM Return to original view \| Post #17
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 27 2017, 06:16 PM) NO. LOL! You are not gonna improve if like that. Now go use your S/R thing... How would you continue this trade? Err.. No to which part? Haha, you're referring to I shouldn't use stock's past behavior into consideration? Well i did state my pov earlier, which was the price still above it's previous resistance/high, so normally would not exit yet, either maintain SL or move to breakeven. So wanna take note if i take into the stock past behavior how would i tweak/improve into my current method loooo
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hehe86	Mar 28 2017, 03:25 AM Return to original view \| Post #18
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 27 2017, 07:36 PM) Well make your own screenshot... and write down ..... your 'new' plans for the stock. Hmm not much to comment lo. 0.875-0.88 is its previous supply zone/resistance. 20th and 21st candlestick was not so nice, so if i'm still holding, would watch closely on this level lo.
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hehe86	Mar 29 2017, 06:52 PM Return to original view \| Post #19
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	The chart for non-adjusted and adjusted, sometimes both may show different interpretation. Is there a best way to view a chart? Adjust or non-adjusted?
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hehe86	Mar 31 2017, 02:45 PM Return to original view \| Post #20
Gratitude Senior Member 1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005	That bearish candle with the higher volume looks ugly though
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