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TSBoon3
post May 1 2017, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ May 1 2017, 05:26 PM)
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This one not double bottom? Why ar?
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Can use google hor...

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anyway, the two bottoms should be around the same level... give or take 1-2% ...

when doing chart patterns...
sometimes the risk is that one tends to see stuff.... laugh.gif laugh.gif



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post May 1 2017, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 1 2017, 02:19 PM)
LOL!

The exact words I said was NO CUPS. tongue.gif

no cups = no potential for breakout meh?  rolleyes.gif

All this was for DJ who said got cup and handle pattern.

Anyway, yalah.... I saw.
Frontken's numbers the last 3 quarters have been really impressive.

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( that said... all I ever remember was Frontken was a pisang goreng kow kow last time.... hardly hear people tok about its fundies... tongue.gif )

And I am sure that you are looking at that most recent quarter...
if Frontken can replicate such a performance (+ more) ...
then you are looking at one stock with lots of potential....

correct ah?
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yes, 3 impressive quarters. the last 4Q 2016 was not doing well. given its 3 impressive quarters, for sure its 4Q2017 is gonna beat 4Q2016.
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post May 1 2017, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ May 1 2017, 07:13 PM)
yes, 3 impressive quarters. the last 4Q 2016 was not doing well. given its 3 impressive quarters, for sure its 4Q2017 is gonna beat 4Q2016.
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I think you would want it to earn at least 10 mil for the coming quarter.



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post May 1 2017, 07:45 PM

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i think double bottom also its preceding trend is a downtrend, and failed to make new lows, hence the reversal would be strong.

in frontkn case, it was not in a downtrend

my 2 cents

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post May 1 2017, 10:14 PM

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😂

I'm noob in charts.. just simply shoot..

Anyway in the book how to make money in stocks.. it mentioned prior to a double bottom should be an uptrend.. and also did mention second bottom should be a little lower than the first bottom..

Which one is correct??

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post May 1 2017, 11:09 PM

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Haha, not saying i'm good in charts also gek, we're here to learn!

They say reading a chart is an art, not a science too

Actually to read a chart on cheap stocks like frontkn, which is 0.2x-ish, i'm not so sure how accurate chart reading can be for it. Since it is cheap, the movement is very limited.

in my opinion lo.

as for double bottom, to me, a double bottom is a reversal play. Hence thats why i said it should be in a downtrend, failed to make new low, then reverse to go into a new trend. thats why opposite of double bottom is double top lo
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post May 2 2017, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ May 1 2017, 10:14 PM)
😂

I'm noob in charts.. just simply shoot..

Anyway in the book how to make money in stocks.. it mentioned prior to a double bottom should be an uptrend.. and also did mention second bottom should be a little lower than the first bottom..

Which one is correct??
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Yes, O'Neal prefers the second bottom to be a bit lower, preferably the second bottom undercutting it by one or two ticks.
But for me, the bottoms are about the same levels, give or take 1 or 2%.

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post May 2 2017, 07:47 AM

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Suicidal Guy.. also when you consider that the majority of stocks in the US are above 10, the one or two ticks are roughiy between 1 or 2%.
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Hi again, apologies as I was so busy preparing for something important. Anyway, so Parkson is a lost cause or is it? Terrible, it did not move up as I thought it will as it is a proxy for Lion Industries which I said the other day.

So anyway, let us avoid anymore loss making, useless, hopeless companies and start new again and which is why I brought PWORTH up.

Now this stock may yet again end up a failure like Parkson or this time it will be "ini kalilah"? I brought the attention here because there may be a bullish flag spotted on the graph. Let us see where is that...

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So what is everyone's take on this stock? Personally, in my honest opinion, I still think there is further upside. It may be overpriced but it quite held up well recently.
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post May 2 2017, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(ILoveLalat.net @ May 2 2017, 08:49 PM)
Hi again, apologies as I was so busy preparing for something important. Anyway, so Parkson is a lost cause or is it? Terrible, it did not move up as I thought it will as  it is a proxy for Lion Industries which I said the other day.

So anyway, let us avoid anymore loss making, useless, hopeless companies and start new again and which is why I brought PWORTH up.

Now this stock may yet again end up a failure like Parkson or this time it will be "ini kalilah"? I brought the attention here because there may be a bullish flag spotted on the graph. Let us see where is that...

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So what is everyone's take on this stock? Personally, in my honest opinion, I still think there is further upside. It may be overpriced but it quite held up well recently.
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Huh? Apologize for what? rolleyes.gif

Pworth? errrrr.............

ok.. I never like this one... it's just pure goreng stock and all throughout its history, it's earnings performance has been really mediocre .... wink.gif

sorry blunt view...

anyway...

the chart...

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Yes, it looks like a bull flag is in the process of being formed...
but it's in the very early stages...
and if one jumps in too quick...
one might run the risk of failed pattern...
anyway... as in bull flag plays... my preference is wait and play the breakout if and when it happens.... icon_rolleyes.gif




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post May 2 2017, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 1 2017, 11:09 PM)
Haha, not saying i'm good in charts also gek, we're here to learn!

They say reading a chart is an art, not a science too

Actually to read a chart on cheap stocks like frontkn, which is 0.2x-ish, i'm not so sure how accurate chart reading can be for it. Since it is cheap, the movement is very limited.

in my opinion lo.

as for double bottom, to me, a double bottom is a reversal play. Hence thats why i said it should be in a downtrend, failed to make new low, then reverse to go into a new trend. thats why opposite of double bottom is double top lo
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I'm not saying you're wrong. smile.gif 

I'm just pointing out from what I read, there should be a prior uptrend and asking which one is right.. I have zero practical experience in chart reading.. biggrin.gif 

Yeah agree.. we're all here to learn and improve..
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 2 2017, 07:47 AM)
Suicidal Guy.. also when you consider that the majority of stocks in the US are above 10, the one or two ticks are roughiy between 1 or 2%.
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Yes yes.. I have to take note difference of both bottoms must be around 1-2% only.. In frontken chart, it was about 3-4% difference  bangwall.gif 

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post May 2 2017, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ May 2 2017, 11:04 PM)
Yes yes.. I have to take note difference of both bottoms must be around 1-2% only.. In frontken chart, it was about 3-4% difference  bangwall.gif 
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Don't get too worked out over stuff like this.
Generally it should look level - just not too senget on one side....

anyway... double bottoms is probably my least favorite pattern...
it's too flimsy for me and it's often error prone to my liking...
think of triple bottoms.... why does triple bottom exist? isn't it cos the double bottom failed?
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post May 3 2017, 09:47 AM

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Maybank & CIMB ..... tongue.gif

Let me re-post here before it gets lost in space...

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That was the Maybank v CIMB

factors against Maybank b4 Oct 2016...

1. Stock trading in a clear downtrend
2. There were valid reasons - slumping profits & DECLINING DIVIDENDS.
3. Slumping sector.

CIMB on the other hand...

1. was in an uptrend ...
2. profits were turning around...

and then
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Most importantly ...

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it's like Mayban...
the charts are perhaps slightly suggestive right now ...
suggesting that one should be on the lookout for any trading opportunity...
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Downtrend channels and uptrend channels CHANGES.

*this is important. In TA, views and onions do NOT last very long as stocks are traded all the time, prices changes all the time*

That posting was made on 11 Oct 2016

Notice when and how the stock broke out of the channel..

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Notice how the earnings improved in Nov. There was no longer the double digit declines in profits.
Then notice the huge turnaround, the huge improvement in earnings in Feb 2017..

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Stocks soared since.... tongue.gif

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and what about CIMB?

Not too bad either... yes? tongue.gif

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Oh yeah.... I had asked where's the beef?

I guess these two stocks showed it to me................ laugh.gif







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Haha. Maybe sometimes one need not to know where's the beef but act according to the current price?
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post May 3 2017, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 3 2017, 04:39 PM)
Haha. Maybe sometimes one need not to know where's the beef but act according to the current price?
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Don't agree. tongue.gif

The beef is an important issue.
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post May 3 2017, 05:06 PM

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Paper trade this stock at 2.82 biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 2 2017, 11:17 PM)
Don't get too worked out over stuff like this.
Generally it should look level - just not too senget on one side....

anyway... double bottoms is probably my least favorite pattern...
it's too flimsy for me and it's often error prone to my liking...
think of triple bottoms.... why does triple bottom exist? isn't it cos the double bottom failed?
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SO what is your favourite pattern? The one that goes up?
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post May 3 2017, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ May 3 2017, 05:16 PM)
SO what is your favourite pattern? The one that goes up?
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Pointless to tell you... cos you and I will be different. smile.gif

It's up to you to discover what's your own best hunting spot.




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post May 3 2017, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ May 3 2017, 05:06 PM)
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Paper trade this stock at 2.82  biggrin.gif
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Mark down your own reasons to trade ... etc etc etc .... blah blah blah.... tongue.gif



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