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post Jan 27 2021, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 27 2021, 01:06 PM)
Doing nothing when there is nothing to do -  and this one is about the hardest thing to do... more so when one just came out from a very huge win. Hands all gatal... itching and itching and itching to buy again... tongue.gif
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Haha so true on the gatal part. Multi baggers years for portfolio is great but protection of capital for long term is even more vital.

Just have to sit back and watch my neighbours get rich now. Not going to put more into this market, although the itch is very strong.
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post Jan 27 2021, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 27 2021, 01:16 PM)
Position sizing and expectancy .... something great to read... biggrin.gif
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Come come, be first. What's your total exposure to KLSE? 50%? brows.gif
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post Jan 27 2021, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 27 2021, 01:33 PM)
Come come, be first. What's your total exposure to KLSE? 50%? brows.gif
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LOL! It's irrelevant already.....


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post Jan 27 2021, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 27 2021, 01:05 PM)
General question : How much of you total portfolio do you invest directly in stocks? Taking into account fund, commodities and cash.
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Well i guess everyone will be different on assets allocation..

A is very good at stock market, he put 100% in stock market.. No unit trust / PRS / property/ money market funds etc.

B is on a more balance approach... B has money market funds / REIT / Unit trust / Stock market / Bonds etc under his retirement portfolio...

C on the other hand, doesnt trust stock market at all, hence he just collect property...

Three of them could probably doing equally good and sleep very well at night.
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post Jan 27 2021, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Jan 27 2021, 02:03 PM)
Well i guess everyone will be different on assets allocation..

A is very good at stock market, he put 100% in stock market.. No unit trust / PRS / property/ money market funds etc.

B is on a more balance approach... B has money market funds / REIT / Unit trust / Stock market / Bonds etc under his retirement portfolio...

C on the other hand, doesnt trust stock market at all, hence he just collect property...

Three of them could probably doing equally good and sleep very well at night.
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post Jan 27 2021, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Jan 27 2021, 02:03 PM)
Well i guess everyone will be different on assets allocation..

A is very good at stock market, he put 100% in stock market.. No unit trust / PRS / property/ money market funds etc.

B is on a more balance approach... B has money market funds / REIT / Unit trust / Stock market / Bonds etc under his retirement portfolio...

C on the other hand, doesnt trust stock market at all, hence he just collect property...

Three of them could probably doing equally good and sleep very well at night.
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That's right. Which makes me wonder in a stock forum, what the demographic around these parts. Thought that'll be a good discussion ball to roll around for a bit. I'm about 30% in, which might go lower in time.

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post Jan 27 2021, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 13 2021, 11:44 AM)
I thought you were referring to this scream. laugh.gif

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this one....

got to be very careful with such patterns...
cos I seen too many failures... tongue.gif

as it is... it looks like CH... smells like CH .... but .....

if it was to happen...

one cannot be IN early...
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screaming .... laugh.gif
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post Jan 27 2021, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 27 2021, 12:39 PM)
Sitting is a very important phase, in regardless one is a trader or an investor.

I am in a sitting period too. I once sat more than a year before, not trading. wink.gif

So don't get too worked out over sitting.
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Which year was it, if you don't me asking? 2017?
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post Jan 27 2021, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Jan 27 2021, 05:53 PM)
Which year was it, if you don't me asking? 2017?
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you do know that I am one that is terrible at sharing such info, right? tongue.gif

What's important is that we are definitely different. Our game plan. Our strategies. Our believes.
And following me is surely bad for health.

Many times, when I play, it's usually one. Sometimes I do 2 stocks. But that's it.

Furthermore, I am a trader.

Best, you develop your buy/sell criteria. This must be something you are good at (not what others are good at). Play your the game as per your best kung fu.

Simple as that.

Okay.. let me share a possible trading speculation. Take that Screaming stock, I just posted the chart.

It's interesting... cos.... clearly one can see that it's developing a new upswing.

But ... it shoulc be considered as in the glove sector . So you have a stock which is bucking the trend. Why?

well.. what does Scream do? It does glove moulds. Well, with new glove plants sprouting everywhere... they are gonna need new moulds.... and then the existing ones are ramming up their plant lines. Hence, logically business should be good. And we already saw 2 good quarters from it. And logically, the next quarter should be great for Scream. Perhaps a blowout earnings?

Well... that part should had been before the charts. (bad to let the chart seduce you to make a trade).

So would this perhaps might meet my buying criteria.

( lol ... but .. then... you know... I am such an arse on the gloves sector. So mostly likely I shall take a pass. tongue.gif )

But yea... something like this... would be a trading buy setup for me.

And sometimes.... if something like this doesn't happen... it doesn't happen.

As a hunter, one needs to be patient. If it requires the hunter to squat and play with spiders... well.. the hunter better learn to clever clever squat patiently....




err ..... okay?




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post Jan 27 2021, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 27 2021, 02:14 PM)
That's right. Which makes me wonder in a stock forum, what the demographic around these parts. Thought that'll be a good discussion ball to roll around for a bit. I'm about 30% in, which might go lower in time.
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I’m about 30% in stocks (only bursa) as well, the rest are in EPF, FD and cash.

FD will mature soon, I’ll most likely deploy them into the stock market, looking to step foot into NYSE biggrin.gif

I’m quite certain my investment will mostly be in stocks in the future as well...have no interest in real estate, unit trust funds..gold...crypto..

Currently stuck in dilemma whether to use TD Ameritrade or Etoro.

My TD acc is in the application process...but it’s really tedious..I foresee it will take another few months for approval..am losing patient already..

Are you in the US stock market?

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post Jan 27 2021, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 27 2021, 09:51 PM)
I’m about 30% in stocks (only bursa) as well, the rest are in EPF, FD and cash.

FD will mature soon, I’ll most likely deploy them into the stock market, looking to step foot into NYSE biggrin.gif

I’m quite certain my investment will mostly be in stocks in the future as well...have no interest in real estate, unit trust funds..gold...crypto..

Currently stuck in dilemma whether to use TD Ameritrade or Etoro.

My TD acc is in the application process...but it’s really tedious..I foresee it will take another few months for approval..am losing patient already..

Are you in the US stock market?
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I'm not directly in the US stock market, only indirectly via certain funds.
Like you, I have no interest in real estate as I feel there are a lot of unaccounted hidden costs and it is very illiquid. I love liquidity.
Gold is a little too safe, and I'm not considering crypto at the moment.

I like aggressive, equity driven funds though. At least I get to pick the fund strategy, be it sector wise like tech or by geography, like China.
Then at the end of a timeframe of one year, I do my evaluation. If my stock portfolio outperforms any of the funds I selected, I move 20% out from the underperforming fund into my stock portfolio. If my stock portfolio underperforms most of my funds, I surrender 20% from the stock portfolio into the fund. Then I go again. It is a numbers driven evaluation process which removes any personal biases I have when evaluating. I, like most people I guess, think I'm better than I'm really am at the stock game.

Right now I am definitely on track to losing a portion of my stock portfolio. The funds have risen on average 7% in the past 2 months, and my stocks have dragged in Jan.


QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 27 2021, 07:07 PM)
As a hunter, one needs to be patient. If it requires the hunter to squat and play with spiders... well.. the hunter better learn to clever clever squat patiently....
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Instead of play spider, you can organize a GME influenced short squeeze on your fav TG shorties. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 28 2021, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 27 2021, 10:59 PM)
Instead of play spider, you can organize a GME influenced short squeeze on your fav TG shorties. biggrin.gif
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LOL. I am not a fan of shorting. tongue.gif
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post Jan 28 2021, 10:01 AM

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And yeah... there's this saying.... don't invest just because you want to invest but invest because there's a no brainer investment opportunity... biggrin.gif
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post Jan 28 2021, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 28 2021, 08:48 AM)
LOL. I am not a fan of shorting. tongue.gif
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Short squeeze is the other way around. It's when you drive up the price, causing massive losses for those in a short position.
Like the GME case. So you get to go crazy LOOOOOOONNGG.
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post Jan 28 2021, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 28 2021, 10:08 AM)
Short squeeze is the other way around. It's when you drive up the price, causing massive losses for those in a short position.
Like the GME case. So you get to go crazy LOOOOOOONNGG.
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Yup.

Not a fan of it either.

Technically and logically, GME pricing is way beyond absurd. Same with Tesla and many others.

These things happen.
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post Jan 28 2021, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jan 19 2021, 05:02 PM)
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this one. as long it does not drop below 1.80 then i'm not bothered.

today orna shows it can't break new high. if follow kronologi movement then will expect to retrace
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It breaches 1.80 2 days back, i have no choice but to cut

was thinking whether to wait for the closing and ready dump on the 2nd day, but well, it breaches, means it breaches confused.gif bangwall.gif cry.gif bye.gif
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post Jan 28 2021, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jan 28 2021, 11:27 AM)
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It breaches 1.80 2 days back, i have no choice but to cut

was thinking whether to wait for the closing and ready dump on the 2nd day, but well, it breaches, means it breaches  :confused:  bangwall.gif  cry.gif  bye.gif
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The 13th.. that was when you should be ready to sell already. So maybe on the 14th...
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post Jan 28 2021, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 28 2021, 12:24 PM)
The 13th.. that was when you should be ready to sell already. So maybe on the 14th...
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And this only works if...

1.you think it's reach your value...

2.it reached your target price long ago...


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post Jan 28 2021, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 28 2021, 12:24 PM)
The 13th.. that was when you should be ready to sell already. So maybe on the 14th...
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13th have high volume. so probably will not sell it on 14th

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 28 2021, 12:31 PM)
And this only works if...

1.you think it's reach your value...

2.it reached your target price long ago...
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My TP is no TP laugh.gif i try to practice buy and hold method until FA changed.

but based on my valuation, paper industry should have a max PE of 15. was aiming for PE15 but however it didn't reach there yet.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 28 2021, 10:08 AM)
Short squeeze is the other way around. It's when you drive up the price, causing massive losses for those in a short position.
Like the GME case. So you get to go crazy LOOOOOOONNGG.
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P/S.. Don't get suck into this GME/Tesla short squeeze euphoria... not a healthy way to make money. biggrin.gif

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