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post Jul 24 2020, 11:17 PM

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post Jul 25 2020, 11:51 AM

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Thanks for the enlightenment!  thumbsup.gif
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Each company got some sort of concern/baggage/risk and when I was alerted by Scientist Koon bashing up buyers of stocks like Pharma, it's simply too hypocrite of Scientist Koon. Is he concerned that if the market switches over to pharma related stocks, his vested interest in the glove sector would be missing few legs? (stocks needs legs to run.. missing some legs... the oomph would be weaker..... and with a weak oomph, how to profit?)

Now take TopGun. Is it a goody good shoe?

Over the years, there are issues...

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but then...
in a bullish market....
hardly anyone cares...
or should I say, nobody cares ... laugh.gif

all everyone wants know... how high it can fly..... laugh.gif


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post Jul 25 2020, 09:18 PM

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Wadui, after reading from all the insights by you guys...I think my risk appetite not suitable to join the current trend chase.

Did thought of buying in the glove counters since 2 months ago but keep wait until balls also smaller d now.

Think I better stay away from glove counters for the moment and focus other counters 😂
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post Jul 26 2020, 12:03 AM

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Would like to hear your thoughts on what are your plans when the second wave / second market crash arrives?

Based on how crazy the market has been since the last recovery, would your strategy change compared to what you did for the last crash?

What would you bet on next?
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post Jul 26 2020, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(XweienX @ Jul 26 2020, 12:03 AM)
Would like to hear your thoughts on what are your plans when the second wave / second market crash arrives?

Based on how crazy the market has been since the last recovery, would your strategy change compared to what you did for the last crash?

What would you bet on next?
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Average down existing long terms stocks and play a few short stocks like glove to goreng a bit.(maybe 20% of my portfolio)
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post Jul 26 2020, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Jul 26 2020, 12:20 AM)
Average down existing long terms stocks and play a few short stocks like glove  to goreng a bit.(maybe 20% of my portfolio)
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Good call, but I'm gonna need a lot of spare bullets to average down on all my long term stocks haha
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post Jul 26 2020, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Jul 25 2020, 09:18 PM)
Wadui, after reading from all the insights by you guys...I think my risk appetite not suitable to join the current trend chase.

Did thought of buying in the glove counters since 2 months ago but keep wait until balls also smaller d now.

Think I better stay away from glove counters for the moment and focus other counters 😂
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I am just sharing with opinions without any vested interest and it's best you read it with an opinion mind because end of the day, what's important is that you need to know you and I are absolutely different. Our style of trading/investing/punting or what now is different. You just need to find what's your best style of play you are strongest at and just to stick your methods and strategies...

As it is, for glove counters, as quarterly earnings nears, all focus will be on it. This is simply because the glove counters are all driven/chased sky high because of the expectations that they earn a shiit load of money. Anything else, means that all these is nothing but a house of cards... Scientist predicts earnings numbers, buyers chase....

Best you refer posting #2507

That's the main risk. These scientists have set the bar extremely high (in my opinion) for the glove stocks. These companies have to meet these high bars to justify the current prices... and when the glove stocks don't hit those targets, then buyers run the risk of seeing the glove stocks correct......(and obviously the key is how big a correction?)
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post Jul 26 2020, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Jul 26 2020, 12:20 AM)
Average down existing long terms stocks and play a few short stocks like glove  to goreng a bit.(maybe 20% of my portfolio)
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Averaging down... means you are buying more of a stock that has gone wrong.... some call it buying more of your mistake. wink.gif
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post Jul 26 2020, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(XweienX @ Jul 26 2020, 12:03 AM)
Would like to hear your thoughts on what are your plans when the second wave / second market crash arrives?

Based on how crazy the market has been since the last recovery, would your strategy change compared to what you did for the last crash?

What would you bet on next?
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hahaha.... 'when'....

well for me, I can only evaluate it 'when' it happens.... needs to understand what caused the crash and perhaps evaluate which industry has the best chance to survive and strive after the crash.

can't (and won't) call it b4 it happens....


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post Jul 26 2020, 01:54 PM

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Hey fellow traders, I have a burning question, I do understand that RSI is calculated with gain/lost %, MFI is volume-weighted, and Stoch is price diff over 14d, but how do you put that into pragmatic terms?

Can anyone elaborate on how do you use it in your trading?

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post Jul 26 2020, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(machonacho @ Jul 26 2020, 01:54 PM)
Hey fellow traders, I have a burning question, I do understand that RSI is calculated with gain/lost %, MFI is volume-weighted, and Stoch is price diff over 14d, but how do you put that into pragmatic terms?

Can anyone elaborate on how do you use it in your trading?
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Very difficult to answer such a simple question.

First it depends the type of trading you are good. Are you a daytrader? 3 days trader? A week? Longer? Or even longer, longer?

14 days is considered way too slow if you are good at fast trading.

Hence, some even use 10 days intervals. Some have even modify to even 7.... but what to use, has to suit you the user.
Internet got plenty of suggestions...

I use none, which suits me fine after years for testing... (which I suggest you to do the same)

(you can search 'chart indicators not reliable')

but again... what matters is you. Test it out yourself... find out what works best in your setup and not rely on others)

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post Jul 27 2020, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 26 2020, 02:08 PM)
Very difficult to answer such a simple question.

First it depends the type of trading you are good. Are you a daytrader? 3 days trader? A week? Longer? Or even longer, longer?

14 days is considered way too slow if you are good at fast trading.

Hence, some even use 10 days intervals. Some have even modify to even 7.... but what to use, has to suit you the user.
Internet got plenty of suggestions...

I use none, which suits me fine after years for testing... (which I suggest you to do the same)

(you can search 'chart indicators not reliable')

but again... what matters is you. Test it out yourself... find out what works best in your setup and not rely on others)

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So you trade solely based on the candlesticks? That's a very unique way to trade, first time see man! laugh.gif Coming from a fundementalist investor, damn mind boogling for me to comprehend technical indicators also haha
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post Jul 27 2020, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(machonacho @ Jul 27 2020, 12:00 AM)
So you trade solely based on the candlesticks? That's a very unique way to trade, first time see man!  laugh.gif Coming from a fundementalist investor, damn mind boogling for me to comprehend technical indicators also haha
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Every thing got its plus and minus... and then it depends on the user.
There's no such thing as one system fitting all.
What is good for me, might not be good for you.
Vice versa.
Go discover and use what is good for you.

anyway, those indicators you described, it's all there in most stock charting platform...
go discover
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post Jul 27 2020, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(machonacho @ Jul 27 2020, 12:00 AM)
So you trade solely based on the candlesticks? That's a very unique way to trade, first time see man!  laugh.gif Coming from a fundementalist investor, damn mind boogling for me to comprehend technical indicators also haha
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Ok let me simply throw a bunch of indicators drawn on a simply random stock.

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Err... so which is your poison?

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post Jul 27 2020, 05:43 PM

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Very interesting write up you have, Boon3. The way I see, it's like TopGun is looking down at PBB and say imma #2 and you can eat my dirt. The way this scientist Koon is a great salesman with his TP to tell the whole world TopGun is #1 and can go beyond MBB lol. Too bad, the stock exchange is kinda broken and long term stocks are just crying in pain...

Kinda came across to this article in Bloomberg, nobody is paying attention to long term stocks... So that's why. In KLSE it's just gloves, in overseas all about tech.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...g?sref=j0IAopxo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...e?sref=j0IAopxo

Anything under your radar worth observing apart from gloves? Or cash is king for now. Everything just got fried, Poh Kong, Bursa, etc... maybe tastes better than KFC.
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post Jul 27 2020, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(kereta @ Jul 27 2020, 05:43 PM)
Very interesting write up you have, Boon3. The way I see, it's like TopGun is looking down at PBB and say imma #2 and you can eat my dirt. The way this scientist Koon is a great salesman with his TP to tell the whole world TopGun is #1 and can go beyond MBB lol. Too bad, the stock exchange is kinda broken and long term stocks are just crying in pain...

Kinda came across to this article in Bloomberg, nobody is paying attention to long term stocks... So that's why. In KLSE it's just gloves, in overseas all about tech.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...g?sref=j0IAopxo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...e?sref=j0IAopxo

Anything under your radar worth observing apart from gloves? Or cash is king for now. Everything just got fried, Poh Kong, Bursa, etc... maybe tastes better than KFC.
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He is extremely crafty in how he writes... and smart enough to realise that our current market ( lots of newbie millennial traders) is rather focused on issue like Target prices...

There are couple of things the market doesn't realise...

1. Target prices are issued based on estimates which are usually at least more than 15 months into the future...

key is ... will they even remember what the Target Prices are 15 months later (do they even bother? stock goes up, they punt, they got their profits already.. so why do they care so much in future details)

2. The earnings estimates which derives the estimate EPS... these numbers can get really, really wild.... and then you have the earnings multiples.... a simple 20x multiple can set the Target price so very high.....

3. Have they asked how accurate the analyst target prices are?

Many years ago... a study was indeed made ... https://financialpost.com/investing/analyst...bal-study-finds

Based on their 2012 study of more than 11,000 analysts from 41 countries, the overall accuracy of target prices is not very high, averaging around 18% for a three-month horizon and 30% for a 12-month horizon.

yup.. that bad ... and I doubt if the numbers are any better now.

yup... Scientist Koon and his TP ....

Oh me? Don't read too much into me.... and don't take me too seriously as I tend to talk ayam a lot... laugh.gif

Besides glove... there are quite a number of stocks who has turned in multi baggers performances since the low of March.... they are not even glove stocks. LOL!

Yup... got la..... the data is out there.....



and yeah... besides talking ayam... I'm really a fish seller... so I really have no good ideas/tipsy to offer. So sorry.

and yeah... most of the people know this of me. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jul 27 2020, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 26 2020, 09:45 AM)
I am just sharing with opinions without any vested interest and it's best you read it with an opinion mind because end of the day, what's important is that you need to know you and I are absolutely different. Our style of trading/investing/punting or what now is different. You just need to find what's your best style of play you are strongest at and just to stick your methods and strategies...

As it is, for glove counters, as quarterly earnings nears, all focus will be on it. This is simply because the glove counters are all driven/chased sky high because of the expectations that they earn a shiit load of money. Anything else, means that all these is nothing but a house of cards... Scientist predicts earnings numbers, buyers chase....

Best you refer posting #2507

That's the main risk. These scientists have set the bar extremely high (in my opinion) for the glove stocks. These companies have to meet these high bars to justify the current prices... and when the glove stocks don't hit those targets, then buyers run the risk of seeing the glove stocks correct......(and obviously the key is how big a correction?)
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I totally understand where you come from, and it is really nice of you to share your opinions. I do always read with a judgemental and doubtful mindset in order for me to do more of my own research.

To be honest i don't have much experience in trading yet, although I've missed out opportunities, however, thankfully I've taken some profit and portfolio still on the green side lol...

I like it that you pointed out that crazy Koon guy. But I'm still doubtful about his impact towards the price movements, does he really have that much of followers who believes everything he "ANALYZE" ?

Well, so far I'm enjoying trading in the stock market, and when time goes by and when my guts grow bigger, maybe I could allocate some of my funds to goreng as well.. laugh.gif

So far it's been months of an exciting journey to me, glad I've decide to trade as I gain so much more knowledge although not much of profits yet lmao.
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post Jul 27 2020, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 26 2020, 09:46 AM)
Averaging down... means you are buying more of a stock that has gone wrong.... some call it buying more of your mistake.  wink.gif
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Hahah there's always 2 side of the story. Thankfully, my decision of averaging down HASN'T gone wrong yet la sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Jul 27 2020, 08:50 PM)
I totally understand where you come from, and it is really nice of you to share your opinions. I do always read with a judgemental and doubtful mindset in order for me to do more of my own research.

To be honest i don't have much experience in trading yet, although I've missed out opportunities, however, thankfully I've taken some profit and portfolio still on the green side lol...

I like it that you pointed out that crazy Koon guy. But I'm still doubtful about his impact towards the price movements, does he really have that much of followers who believes everything he "ANALYZE" ?

Well, so far I'm enjoying trading in the stock market, and when time goes by and when my guts grow bigger, maybe I could allocate some of my funds to goreng as well.. laugh.gif

So far it's been months of an exciting journey to me, glad I've decide to trade as I gain so much more knowledge although not much of profits yet lmao.
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Go google his name... Read who he is...

issues like this...

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ely-disclosures

Search the recent posts... yes, he's influential enough. Many remisier would die for his business.


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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Jul 27 2020, 08:52 PM)
Hahah there's always 2 side of the story. Thankfully, my decision of averaging down HASN'T gone wrong yet la  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Some stocks can turn real bad despite a bull market.

Pick the wrong one.. and if one keep buying, keep averaging down and insist that they are wrong.. ahem.. can die one hor

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