Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

233 Pages « < 124 125 126 127 128 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 BWC

views
     
TSBoon3
post Jul 21 2020, 07:17 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jul 21 2020, 05:08 PM)
He was rich-er before Dayang collasped.  So need to make up all the lost profit somewhere. Supermax just came in at the right time.

I tell you he sure go TG then quietly disposed and clean his hand of glove sector entirely. After that maybe 1 - 2 month later blogpost about how he sold all glove due to "certain" reason. Nicely offloaded. This time profit fully lock in.
*
to be frank, I really did not want to check on his postings. year in year out, same garbage....

this fella... really spit mouth water ..... for his past status.... how he can stoop so low is simply beyond me ...

his very infamous incident involving that Kenanga remiser...

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ely-disclosures


ps: you can gather from that article... he does swing a very big line... and with punters-who-are-dying-for-sure-win tipsy.... stocks can indeed move.....

ps/ps: as much as we can warn of the potential dangers in playing his stocks he recommends... there will be plenty of ppl who are ever so willing to punt on the same stock...


TSBoon3
post Jul 21 2020, 07:22 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Jul 21 2020, 05:30 PM)
Many have been doing such things recently and the writings and showing portfolio are luring in many new players with no experience.

IF they are learning new things from the sifus, it's fine but more often than not, the recent bull has made them feel like invincible.

Oh ya, for those who are not accepting students? Write more to lure them in and buy while the writer offloads his/her share.  cool2.gif

Go back to my paper trading and see see what can I learn, any tips to be more confident?  sweat.gif I've been sitting very tight without touching anything for these two months.
*
doh.gif

paper trading also need tips meh?

Aiyooooooo macam mana ni?

Right now, there are so many things you can paper trade ma...

So I spit mouth water on that lowlife on Superman. So why don't you paper trade Superman then?
See if you can find an entry and of course you need to know where is your exit points...
Paper trade lo...

See this is not a simply challenge ma...
For me, without him...
I suspect the stock will lack one leg...
Missing one leg... err... supports not as good hor...
Missing one leg... which other leg will occasionally kick the stock up?

Or you can think about other stuff too....................


Then the simple question...
beside rubber glove stocks, which other area/stock/sector is actually doing pretty good?


.... shakehead.gif shocking.gif rolleyes.gif
TSBoon3
post Jul 21 2020, 07:26 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 21 2020, 07:17 PM)
to be frank, I really did not want to check on his postings. year in year out, same garbage....

this fella... really spit mouth water .....  for his past status.... how he can stoop so low is simply beyond me ...

his very infamous incident involving that Kenanga remiser...

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ely-disclosures
ps: you can gather from that article... he does swing a very big line... and with punters-who-are-dying-for-sure-win tipsy.... stocks can indeed move.....

ps/ps: as much as we can warn of the potential dangers in playing his stocks he recommends... there will be plenty of ppl who are ever so willing to punt on the same stock...
*
http://chanky50.blogspot.com/2016/05/vs-in...on-yew-yin.html

QUOTE
The thing that puzzled me is that on 23 February he published and article telling his followers that he is buying VS. The price then is about Rm 1.30. Click 'VS Industry is a good buy' for the article. And then he started selling 47% of his stake at an average price of Rm 1.25 and below.


Ask to buy at 1.30... but he was disposing 47% stake at 1.25 at below...

shakehead.gif shocking.gif rolleyes.gif


Link is here: https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyi...oon_Yew_Yin.jsp
billy_overheat
post Jul 22 2020, 08:27 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,373 posts

Joined: Nov 2008
QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 21 2020, 07:22 PM)
doh.gif

paper trading also need tips meh?

Aiyooooooo macam mana ni?

Right now, there are so many things you can paper trade ma...

So I spit mouth water on that lowlife on Superman. So why don't you paper trade Superman then?
See if you can find an entry and of course you need to know where is your exit points...
Paper trade lo...

See this is not a simply challenge ma...
For me, without him...
I suspect the stock will lack one leg...
Missing one leg... err... supports not as good hor...
Missing one leg... which other leg will occasionally kick the stock up?

Or you can think about other stuff too....................
Then the simple question...
beside rubber glove stocks, which other area/stock/sector is actually doing pretty good?
....  shakehead.gif  shocking.gif  rolleyes.gif
*
I should have rephrased. How to be better? laugh.gif

This is what I do with my paper trade.
1. Identify trending sector.
2. Take out around 5 best companies in the sector.
3. Read their AR and QR (I'll admit, figures are skimped, percentages are emphasized on growth, that's what I do la, really bad with numbers)
4. Look at their charts, trends, candles, and strengths. (supports and resistances with high volume in the past)
5. Identify entry and exit points. (like to buy after a retracement, never good with chasing; use ATR1.5 for cut loss, or roughly 7%, if the stocks I bought touch my CL point, that means I'm wrong)
6. Never goes all in. (buy in batches, average up, not down)
7. Wait.

**Did anticipate the possible formation of the chart. Since we don't do short here, we can only go long. Like you said, another leg, another retracement, etc.

The paper trading for 2020 is a success. But it's a bull market. So, I guess I just kinda like, went along with the flow. Since the market is unpredictable, it is never my own ability to even begin with, I just go along and trade according to my setups.

But again, how to be better? After these few years, when I am right, I am. When I am wrong, I just CL. Although winning rate is better than my losing ones, still, I started with diversification, long term buy & hold beats trading, dollar-cost averaging, humans can't beat passive investment, yada yada...

hmm.gif hmm.gif Macam mana ni? Aiyooooooooo

This post has been edited by billy_overheat: Jul 22 2020, 08:58 AM
TSBoon3
post Jul 22 2020, 09:01 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Jul 22 2020, 08:27 AM)
I should have rephrased. How to be better? laugh.gif

This is what I do with my paper trade.
1. Identify trending sector.
2. Take out around 5 best companies in the sector.
3. Read their AR and QR (I'll admit, figures are skimped, percentages are emphasized on growth, that's what I do la, really bad with numbers)
4. Look at their charts, trends, candles, and strengths. (supports and resistances with high volume in the past)
5. Identify entry and exit points. (like to buy after a retracement, never good with chasing; use ATR1.5 for cut loss, or roughly 7%, if the stocks I bought touch my CL point, that means I'm wrong)
6. Never goes all in. (buy in batches, average up, not down)
7. Wait.

**Did anticipate the possible formation of the chart. Since we don't do short here, we can only go long. Like you said, another leg, another retracement, etc.

The paper trading for 2020 is a success. But it's a bull market. So, I guess I just kinda like, went along with the flow. Since the market is unpredictable, it is never my own ability to even begin with, I just go along and trade according to my setups.

But again, how to be better? After these few years, when I am right, I am. When I am wrong, I just CL. Although winning rate is better than my losing ones, still, I started with diversification, long term buy & hold beats trading, dollar-cost averaging, humans can't beat passive investment, yada yada...

hmm.gif  hmm.gif Macam mana ni? Aiyooooooooo
*
Cut loss is very important but you gotta cut the frequency...
here potong, there potong, potong potong... habis lo...
this is why you gotta know your best type of trades..
and just concentrates on those trades...

also learn to trade less...

TSBoon3
post Jul 22 2020, 09:58 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
This post illustrates that you can lose money completely when you follow Ah Koon.

This is about what happened to this stock called Xingquan. (I made comments on it b4... post #534 )

His writing...

https://koonyewyin.com/2014/02/14/why-xingq...iving-dividend/

and then...

https://koonyewyin.com/2017/09/09/xingquan-is-a-good-bet/

QUOTE
I started buying it in 2010 when the price fell below Rm 1.00. Its 2010 annual account shows that I had a total of 17,005 million shares. I think my average price is about 70 sen per share.


That was utter BS. LOL! Why? Cos stuff like this can be traced...

Date interest acquired : 27/09/2010
No of securities : 15,422,100

After the acquisition, KYY has

Direct (units) : 16,901,000
Direct (%) : 5

Date of interest bought 27/9/2010.
How did he get average price of 70 sen when clearly Xingquan was trading way above 1.60.. see chart below

Then this posting... https://koonyewyin.com/2017/09/05/is-xingquan-a-good-bet/

Until Sep 2017, Ah Koon still insisted it was a good bet.

QUOTE
As you also know, Xingquan has been selling between 10-13 for some time and I have been accumulating it. Last year annual report shows that I have accumulated 36.4 million shares. Now I have a total of 86.9 million shares and my average price per share is 6.85 sen.

Is 6.85 sen per share a good bet?
shocking.gif

he now has 86.9 million shares...
his first batch 1.60+ mah....
possiblt to average down so much that his average price be as low as 6.85 sen? rolleyes.gif

Dunno la...

but see he tried to seduce his readers...

QUOTE
I can imagine the amount I will make from my 86.9 million shares, costing me 6.85 sen per share. I will be laughing all the way to my bank.

In any case, there is always some risk in buying any share. I think Xingquan is a good bet.


LOL! still consider a good bet...

that was 2017..... Xingquan was delisted in 2019.....

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...sl-and-xingquan

Ahh... here is the chart showing 2009 time frame... lucky it was posted on a forum.... https://pertama.freeforums.net/thread/553/koon-yew-yin




user posted image

*red marked Sep 2009*


See? Follow Ah Koon straight to ........longkang!
TSBoon3
post Jul 23 2020, 09:24 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
The next quarterly report for both Superman and TopGun....

TopGun net profits per quarter

2019 Q1 81 million 2020 Q1 111 million
2019 Q2 82 million 2020 Q2 115 million
2019 Q3 125million 2020 Q3 347 million
2019 Q4 141million 2020 Q4 _________

and what's your own estimate for TopGun net profit to be? _________

Scientist from Kenanga calling for 821 million.

This number has to be hit.
Why?
The next fiscal year, they are calling for a net profit of 3996 million.

ALL THE RECENT HIGH TP HAS ALL BEEN BASED ON SKY HIGH PROFIT ESTIMATION....

any miss, ie if TopGun reports a profit of say 700 million for the coming quarter... that would mean TopGun earnings was very lousy....
But is it really lousy?
700 million net profit by all means is actually very impressive...
but with the Char Kway Teuw goreng happening, a 700 million profit would be deemed very poor SINCE IT EXPOSES HOW WEAK THE JUSTIFICATION FOR TopGun to be trading at current prices... and it will lay case that TopGun is trading at very insane high prices...

Yes, it's kinda situpid...
but what to do...
stocks fried so high...
if the earnings do not back these scientist up..
it will expose the nonsense....


Superman net profit per quarter

2019 Q1 35 million 2020 Q1 24 million
2019 Q2 38 million 2020 Q2 30 million
2019 Q3 34 million 2020 Q3 71 million
2019 Q4 15 million 2020 Q4 _________

and again what's your own estimate for Superman net profit to be? _________

Scientist like Ah Koon used 410 million to justify his high target price.

LOL! Can ah?

If net profit only 300 million, how? consider piss poor ah?

****

So for both stocks, it's crystal clear the market is pricing in an extremely high net profit for both stocks.
If both stocks don't hit the target, it would simply mean, it's BELOW ESTIMATES....
meaning the stocks doesn't really have a good justification to trade so high.....

That's the main risk.


On the other hand...
I have seen it happened before...
these scientists... they pandai pandai buat tak tahu....
Scientists mah...
they could do the twist and shout...
and come up with new SCIENTIFIC REASONING that the stocks could still trade higher...
LOL!
So laughable... but I have seen it happen b4...


Anyway.... good luck to all who still believe ..... icon_rolleyes.gif


TSBoon3
post Jul 23 2020, 09:48 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 23 2020, 09:24 AM)
The next quarterly report for both Superman and TopGun....

TopGun net profits per quarter

2019 Q1 81 million  2020 Q1 111 million
2019 Q2 82 million  2020 Q2 115 million
2019 Q3 125million  2020 Q3 347 million
2019 Q4 141million  2020 Q4 _________

and what's your own estimate for TopGun net profit to be?  _________

Scientist from Kenanga calling for 821 million.

This number has to be hit.
Why?
The next fiscal year, they are calling for a net profit of 3996 million.

ALL THE RECENT HIGH TP HAS ALL BEEN BASED ON SKY HIGH PROFIT ESTIMATION....

any miss, ie if TopGun reports a profit of say 700 million for the coming quarter... that would mean TopGun earnings was very lousy....
But is it really lousy?
700 million net profit by all means is actually very impressive...
but with the Char Kway Teuw goreng happening, a 700 million profit would be deemed very poor SINCE IT EXPOSES HOW WEAK THE JUSTIFICATION FOR TopGun to be trading at current prices... and it will lay case that TopGun is trading at very insane high prices...

Yes, it's kinda situpid...
but what to do...
stocks fried so high...
if the earnings do not back these scientist up..
it will expose the nonsense....
Superman net profit per quarter

2019 Q1 35 million  2020 Q1 24 million
2019 Q2 38 million  2020 Q2 30 million
2019 Q3 34 million  2020 Q3 71 million
2019 Q4 15 million  2020 Q4 _________

and again what's your own estimate for Superman net profit to be?  _________

Scientist like Ah Koon used 410 million to justify his high target price.

LOL! Can ah?

If net profit only 300 million, how? consider piss poor ah?

****

So for both stocks, it's crystal clear the market is pricing in an extremely high net profit for both stocks.
If both stocks don't hit the target, it would simply mean, it's BELOW ESTIMATES....
meaning the stocks doesn't really have a good justification to trade so high.....

That's the main risk.
On the other hand...
I have seen it happened before...
these scientists... they pandai pandai buat tak tahu....
Scientists mah...
they could do the twist and shout...
and come up with new SCIENTIFIC REASONING that the stocks could still trade higher...
LOL!
So laughable... but I have seen it happen b4...
Anyway.... good luck to all who still believe .....  icon_rolleyes.gif
*
Oh... with Scientist like Ah Koon selling out at 18++.... he send out a very clear message, didn't he?
With him selling, he indicates that he doesn't believe the valuations he wrote for Superman....
doh.gif




ChAOoz
post Jul 23 2020, 10:37 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,496 posts

Joined: Dec 2007
Mask, glove, vaccine, vials, packaging, logistics. This is the order i guess. 😋
Coup De Grace
post Jul 23 2020, 10:39 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
284 posts

Joined: Nov 2016
QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 23 2020, 09:48 AM)
Oh... with Scientist like Ah Koon selling out at 18++.... he send out a very clear message, didn't he?
With him selling, he indicates that he doesn't believe the valuations he wrote for Superman.... 
doh.gif
*
I will not be surprised if he start writing about pharmaniaga and duopharma soon after he bought alot
TSBoon3
post Jul 23 2020, 11:07 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Jul 23 2020, 10:39 AM)
I will not be surprised if he start writing about pharmaniaga and duopharma soon after he bought alot
*
laugh.gif nah I doubt it... tongue.gif

But all his nonsense all these years, all the same .....

in 2016 ...

Writes and ask ppl to buy VS at 1.30...
but he contradicted his writing by disposing 47% stake at 1.25 and below...

now?

Writes and give valuation that Superman should be at least be 24.20 based on his SAFE and conservative scientific counting...
but then... once more contradicts his own writing by selling at 18++




Yeah... I am really sounding so auntie... so long winded ... yalo... guilty as charged ... laugh.gif
but this fella...
for all he had achieved in his past corporate life...
his status....
so rich already...
how come he need to do all this spit mouth water stuff ah?
need to stoop so low one meh?

shakehead.gif








Coup De Grace
post Jul 23 2020, 01:08 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
284 posts

Joined: Nov 2016
QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 23 2020, 11:07 AM)
laugh.gif nah I doubt it... tongue.gif

But all his nonsense all these years, all the same .....

in 2016 ...

Writes and ask ppl to buy VS at 1.30...
but he contradicted his writing by disposing 47% stake at 1.25 and below...

now?

Writes and give valuation that Superman should be at least be 24.20 based on his SAFE and conservative scientific counting...
but then... once more contradicts his own writing by selling at 18++
Yeah... I am really sounding so auntie... so long winded ... yalo... guilty as charged ... laugh.gif
but this fella...
for all he had achieved in his past corporate life...
his status....
so rich already...
how come he need to do all this spit mouth water stuff ah?
need to stoop so low one meh?

shakehead.gif
*
QUOTE
Koon Yew Yin 23 July 2020

The price chart shows that it has shot up from Rm 2.80 to Rm 5.28 in the last 3 trading days, an increase of Rm 2.48. In its latest quarter ending 31 March 2020 the company only made EPS of 8.57 sen. Last year the company lost 57.18 sen per share.

Many stupid investors chase to buy it aggressively in anticipation of the discovery of a vaccine to prevent coronavirus. Many scientists said that it will take 12-18 months to make sure that the vaccine can really work on human. In any case, Pharmaniaga is only an agent to sell medicine and not an inventor of a vaccine.    


Seems he is negative on Pharmaniaga

Or Reverse psychology by him?

This post has been edited by Coup De Grace: Jul 23 2020, 01:10 PM
TSBoon3
post Jul 23 2020, 01:34 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Jul 23 2020, 01:08 PM)
Seems he is negative on Pharmaniaga

Or Reverse psychology by him?
*
laugh.gif

In case, you did not know, I had called i3 as a toxic place b4.....
as such, I really do not click there .......
I do seriously avoid that place like plague.... icon_rolleyes.gif

Pharma? LOL! Scientist Koon now using charts? Laugh die me.....

*cough*

Anway ...

1. Pharma was highlighted based on one statement by that one politician..... whistling.gif
2. Market liked what they heard/read... and it was goreng.
3. Nothing much else to it. It's exactly like stocks like LKL and K1.... associate it to C19... and then just fry, fry, fry.
4. What fundamentals is there to talk about, is there?
5. Back to charts... Pharma at the moment just did vertical climbing. Classical technical sign that retracement is imminent. Basic TA. laugh.gif
6. if want to talk fundamentals, it needs to be said that Pharma stock is small. Only 261 million shares. And when you factor in the fact that free float shares is only around 20%.... easily to char kway teuw if wanted..

The other day ...

I posted this chart.... I withheld the name intentionally... as i did not want no joker to simply punt on the stock... tongue.gif

user posted image

See? Same vertical climbing.... in fact more extreme....

see post #2436

The stock mentioned of course is Microln.
Needless to say the stock corrected ...

user posted image

Now see the vertical climbing on Pharma...

user posted image

same no? (the stock has since retraced since early morning strong opening)



ps... if you really want to make good money... you DONT need to follow such scientist la...
best you stay completely away from his comments...
develop your own trading.....
there's no need to try to outsmart scientist like him

icon_rolleyes.gif



This post has been edited by Boon3: Jul 23 2020, 01:38 PM
TSBoon3
post Jul 23 2020, 01:56 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Jul 23 2020, 01:08 PM)
Seems he is negative on Pharmaniaga

Or Reverse psychology by him?
*
QUOTE
Many stupid investors chase to buy it aggressively in anticipation of the discovery of a vaccine to prevent coronavirus.


Walauehhhh......

doh.gif I did not realise he used the phrase stupid investor shakehead.gif shakehead.gif


Cilaka... this scientist really too much.... just the other day he dared to write that Superman net profit can compound at 15% for the next 9 months.... doh.gif
That itself is probably the worst stupid comment a stock scientist can every spit out....

now he want to be a hypocrite and call others as stupid investors....


cilaka... really spit mouth water......
Coup De Grace
post Jul 23 2020, 01:59 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
284 posts

Joined: Nov 2016
QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 23 2020, 01:56 PM)
Walauehhhh......

doh.gif  I did not realise he used the phrase stupid investor  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
Cilaka... this scientist really too much.... just the other day he dared to write that Superman net profit can compound at 15% for the next 9 months....  doh.gif
That itself is probably the worst stupid comment a stock scientist can every spit out....

now he want to be a hypocrite and call others as stupid investors....
cilaka... really spit mouth water......
*
Later the stupid investors will sell Pharmaniaga cheaply reading his blog

Smart investors like him will collect

Then he will say stupid investors buy high, sell low
TSBoon3
post Jul 23 2020, 02:05 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Jul 23 2020, 01:59 PM)
Later the stupid investors will sell Pharmaniaga cheaply reading his blog

Smart investors like him will collect

Then he will say stupid investors buy high, sell low
*
Maybe they are stupid cos they are NOT following his latest buy recommendation.

doh.gif


how nice... and then when Pharma corrects... he will naturally say 'I told you so'.... come faster buy what I buy (so I can sell for nice profit!)

Aiyooooo .... see why I call i3 as toxic?

Avoid at all cost la

This post has been edited by Boon3: Jul 23 2020, 02:05 PM
wts6819
post Jul 23 2020, 06:30 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
875 posts

Joined: Jun 2010
From: Puchong
QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 23 2020, 02:05 PM)
Maybe they are stupid cos they are NOT following his latest buy recommendation.

doh.gif
how nice... and then when Pharma corrects... he will naturally say 'I told you so'.... come faster buy what I buy (so I can sell for nice profit!)

Aiyooooo .... see why I call i3 as toxic?

Avoid at all cost la
*
I wonder why still got people follow him. Although I'm new in share market, I felt he over sell his idea really hard when I read his statement. So basically now I just skip it.

I do still go in i3 sometimes for digging little information, it is the same like go into LYN Kopitiam. Within sea of shit, there is some unpolish diamond. biggrin.gif
TSBoon3
post Jul 23 2020, 07:29 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(wts6819 @ Jul 23 2020, 06:30 PM)
I wonder why still got people follow him. Although I'm new in share market, I felt he over sell his idea really hard when I read his statement. So basically now I just skip it.

I do still go in i3 sometimes for digging little information, it is the same like go into LYN Kopitiam. Within sea of shit, there is some unpolish diamond. biggrin.gif
*
He and his cohort equals one leg...
with people following that equals a small herd...
very easy to create positive vibes on a stock...


what is morally wrong was shown in the VS example...
it's well documented...
he asks ppl to buy....
while ppl is buying he sells...

same now with Superman...
he gives buy call saying stock is worth 24+...
but then he suddenly turns around and declares he sold at 18++

morally so wrong.


lucky for him..
the market sentiments towards on glove stocks is extremely strong.....
TSBoon3
post Jul 24 2020, 12:44 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,942 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Jul 23 2020, 10:39 AM)
I will not be surprised if he start writing about pharmaniaga and duopharma soon after he bought alot
*
Ah Koon's stupid statement... laugh.gif yeah... since he called others stupid.... lets see if he himself clever or stupid or purely evilly cunning...

QUOTE
The price chart shows that it has shot up from Rm 2.80 to Rm 5.28 in the last 3 trading days, an increase of Rm 2.48. In its latest quarter ending 31 March 2020 the company only made EPS of 8.57 sen. Last year the company lost 57.18 sen per share.

Many stupid investors chase to buy it aggressively in anticipation of the discovery of a vaccine to prevent coronavirus. Many scientists said that it will take 12-18 months to make sure that the vaccine can really work on human. In any case, Pharmaniaga is only an agent to sell medicine and not an inventor of a vaccine.   
I glanced thru....

1. Last year q4, Pharma suffered a huge loss, which dragged everything into deep red.... according they had to write off a huge chunk of inventory....
well... whatever it is... the stock suffered... it fell below 1.00

2. We price stocks to the future. Pharma last reported Q earnings was in May. It returned a very decent set of numbers. Sales improved to above 800m and profits is a respectable 22million or as Ah Koon would note an eps of 8.57sen.

Sales growth and the company 'returned' to profits.

3. This is where I find it very inconsistent. Remember how Ah Koon likes to use annualized eps, cos he consider it safe and conservative approach?

From Superman posting: https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyi...oon_Yew_Yin.jsp

Well? If he used that valuation method for Superman, why didn't he use the same for Pharma?
For Pharma, the annualized eps would be 8.5x4 = 34 sen...

And using his GOLD STANDARD of 20xPE, then macam mana ni?
Shouldn't Pharma be worth at least 20x34 = 6.80?

Correct or not?

Macam ni only consistent mah....

How can he value stocks he got vested interest this way and not other stocks?

I mean if he wants to point out the risk of blindly betting on Pharma on the assumption of C19, then at least do with class. Something like how Alex Lu did.

https://nexttrade.blogspot.com/2020/07/phar...venient_23.html

4. Charts wise. As stated earlier, that was a classical sign that Pharma should be retracing any time... No stocks can continue to climb vertically. Profit taking will cause the stock to retrace sharply.. yup. The smart traders will sell for a profit. The pullback today and yesterday wasn't unexpected and after all, the gaps needs to be closed...

5. "Pharmaniaga is only an agent to sell medicine" .... Aiyoh. doh.gif

Kinda very malu la. If Ah Koon wants to bash a stock, he needs to do the least of homework and perhaps read the lasted QR report and see the breakdown of Pharmaniaga business. Check la the facts. Pharma does manufacturing too (although the PBT isn't very big).

Which for me it boils down to simple evilness. I feel that he wants all the speculative fund to be focused on what stock he has. After the politician statement on Pharma, there was indeed a buzz on pharma related stocks. That's causing him. And this is how I felt. He wants the punters to punt the stock he is buying...

and it's such a smart tactical move by Ah Koon. I bet he figured that there wasn't much downside since the probability is very great that Pharma would correct. And if and when Pharma corrects, it adds power to his name. See Ah Koon... he say this stock up, it up...he say that stock down, it down. Cunning evilness eh?



Pharma last traded 3.73.

wts6819 for your reading too....
Coup De Grace
post Jul 24 2020, 01:42 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
284 posts

Joined: Nov 2016
QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 24 2020, 12:44 PM)
Ah Koon's stupid statement... laugh.gif yeah... since he called others stupid.... lets see if he himself clever or stupid or purely evilly cunning...
I glanced thru....

1. Last year q4, Pharma suffered a huge loss, which dragged everything into deep red....  according they had to write off a huge chunk of inventory....
well... whatever it is... the stock suffered... it fell below 1.00

2. We price stocks to the future. Pharma last reported Q earnings was in May. It returned a very decent set of numbers. Sales improved to above 800m and profits is a respectable 22million or as Ah Koon would note an eps of 8.57sen.

Sales growth and the company 'returned' to profits.

3. This is where I find it very inconsistent. Remember how Ah Koon likes to use annualized eps, cos he consider it safe and conservative approach?

From Superman posting: https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyi...oon_Yew_Yin.jsp

Well? If he used that valuation method for Superman, why didn't he use the same for Pharma?
For Pharma, the annualized eps would be 8.5x4 = 34 sen...

And using his GOLD STANDARD of 20xPE, then macam mana ni?
Shouldn't Pharma be worth at least 20x34 = 6.80?

Correct or not?

Macam ni only consistent mah....

How can he value stocks he got vested interest this way and not other stocks?

I mean if he wants to point out the risk of blindly betting on Pharma on the assumption of C19, then at least do with class. Something like how Alex Lu did.

https://nexttrade.blogspot.com/2020/07/phar...venient_23.html

4. Charts wise. As stated earlier, that was a classical sign that Pharma should be retracing any time... No stocks can continue to climb vertically. Profit taking will cause the stock to retrace sharply.. yup. The smart traders will sell for a profit. The pullback today and yesterday wasn't unexpected and after all, the gaps needs to be closed...

5. "Pharmaniaga is only an agent to sell medicine" .... Aiyoh.  doh.gif

Kinda very malu la. If Ah Koon wants to bash a stock, he needs to do the least of homework and perhaps read the lasted QR report and see the breakdown of Pharmaniaga business. Check la the facts. Pharma does manufacturing too (although the PBT isn't very big).

Which for me it boils down to simple evilness. I feel that he wants all the speculative fund to be focused on what stock he has. After the politician statement on Pharma, there was indeed a buzz on pharma related stocks. That's causing him. And this is how I felt. He wants the punters to punt the stock he is buying...

and it's such a smart tactical move by Ah Koon. I bet he figured that there wasn't much downside since the probability is very great that Pharma would correct. And   if and when Pharma corrects, it adds power to his name. See Ah Koon... he say this stock up, it up...he say that stock down, it down. Cunning evilness eh?
Pharma last traded 3.73.

wts6819 for your reading too....
*
Double standard by Scientist Ah Koon

Also just out on topglove by him:
QUOTE
The main reason why US is creating medical history is because President Trump did not even believe in wearing face masks about 2 weeks ago. If he had made wearing face mask mandatory earlier, he could have thousands of lives.

Under such condition, the requirement of medical gloves is unprecedented in the US. As the number of new cases is still spiking in US and in many other countries around the world, the demand for gloves will continue to exceeds supply. All the glove makers can easily increase their selling prices. Investors should know that the additional selling price is pure profit because it does not involve production cost.

QUOTE
I foresee Top Glove will create history in the Malaysian stock market by announcing the biggest jump in quarterly profit for a listed company.


Why no supermax, kossan, harta mentioned for fairness?

This post has been edited by Coup De Grace: Jul 24 2020, 01:44 PM

233 Pages « < 124 125 126 127 128 > » Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0183sec    0.40    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 26th November 2025 - 09:57 AM