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Sony Sony Xperia XZ Premium - 2017 Super Flagship, 4K HDR 960fps Camera, Now in Oreo 8.0

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post Jun 13 2017, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Maiden222 @ Jun 13 2017, 02:59 PM)
Same I don't see brand either I see the value, design and additional features then decided xpz is not my cup of tea because screen too small, bezel too thick, 960 fps video useless for me., 
Based on gsmarena review s8 vs LG g6 vs Xperia xz premium

Design
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. In this most refined incarnation of the dual-edge concept the Galaxy S8 is the most posh looking phone here, all the while being reasonably comfortable to handle. The fingerprint reader is obviously in the wrong place, though. The G6 feels bulkier, but offers a more secure grip thanks to fatter sides and flat screen, and undoubtedly a better placed fingerprint sensor. The XZ Premium isn't keeping up with the edge-to-edge trends this year when even Sony's own XA1 Ultra has gone on a diet and has shed the side bezels for a more modern look.

Display
Winner: Tie between the Samsung Galaxy S8 and the Sony Xperia XZ Premium. The S8 wins in brightness, contrast and outdoor visibility. The Premium is the sharpest by far, has the most usable screen area and allows streaming in 2160p across various services. The G6 supports Dolby Vision on top of the other two's HDR 10, but that's as much as it's got on the competition.

Battery life
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. The Samsung handset manages the best endurance with the smallest battery and has comprehensive battery saver options. The Xperia is similarly well-equipped in terms of battery saving features, but it's not as long lasting. The G6 is just average in both areas.

Connectivity
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. The G6 takes a hit for its older chipset that lacks Gigabit LTE and Bluetooth 5.0, while the S8 and XZ Premium sport the chips of the day and are mostly tied. Until the S8 pulls out its DeX trump card - of course, a handful of people will get one, but the option is there for those that want to.

Software
Winner: Tie between the Sony Xperia XZ Premium and the Samsung Galaxy S8. The XZ Premium will appeal to purists, while the S8 is the most feature-packed. The G6 offers little on top of stock Android, but is thoroughly redesigned nonetheless.

Loudspeaker
Winner: Tough one. We'd call it a tie as none really excels. The Xperia has stereo speakers going for it, but they're pretty quiet; the G6 is loud, at the expense of distortion at maximum volume; the S8 is the most balanced, but we can't call it a winner, when it doesn't have stereo speakers, and a competitor does.

Audio quality
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. The loudest output with the least degradation in quality when under load comes from the Samsung headset.

Performance
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. A predictable showing from the three phones in the benchmarks - the Galaxy S8 in Exynos trim is the usual chart-topper, followed closely by the Snapdragon 835-powered S8 and the Xperia XZ Premium. The LG G6 does the best with what it's got, but the last gen chip can't compete in the numbers game. That said, you'd be hard-pressed to find a substantial difference in the behavior of the devices in actual use.

Camera
Winner: Tie. The S8 has remarkable noise reduction that cancels out noise without affecting edge detail. It's also got the dual pixel autofocus, which is unmatched for speed and accuracy. The Xperia can capture an abundance of detail, has the widest dynamic range (even if by a small margin) and you can rely on Superior Auto to pick the right scene mode for you. The G6 deserves praise for what it achieves with the smallest sensor here - fine detail, well-controlled noise, good dynamic range. Not to mention that it's got two of them rear cams and the wide-angle one is massive fun to shoot with.

Camera HDR
Winner: Tie. All are decent, but far from remarkable. The S8 has a live preview, which is nice, the Xperia will handle HDR for you in Superior Auto, while the LG is a bit awkward in changing modes, but all of these are too minor to make a difference.

Camera low light with tripod

Winner: Sony Xperia XZ Premium. When properly supported on a tripod and in Manual mode (it's basically shutter priority, but still), the Xperia is capable of producing excellent low-light shots with total detail levels unmatched by the other two. The G6 may resolve a tiny bit more on a per-pixel level when shot from the same spot, but walk a few steps to frame the same composition on the Xperia, and the G6's longer lens advantage disappears. The Galaxy S8 can't compete for detail, but it's also got the lowest noise. Just make sure you don't go slower than 1/4s because the heavier noise reduction eradicates all intricate detail.

Camera panorama
Winner: Tie between the Samsung Galaxy S8 and the LG G6. The S8 is the sharpest but has that pesky exposure stitching ruining its shots, while the G6 has stitching issues on a local level. The Xperia doesn't stitch flawlessly either and is got the softest image.

Camera selfie
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. You may need to learn its autofocusing quirks, but once you do, the S8 will reward you with the most pleasing images of the three.

Video
Winner: Tie. It's nearly impossible to pick one of the three - they're that good. The Xperia scores major points for its slo-mo video, but some will argue it's of limited use. Good thing then, that the Sony smartphone also excels in 4K and has a stabilization that works. The Galaxy S8 captures very good 4K itself, but reigns supreme in 1080p, where its stabilization also functions better than in 4K. The G6 has perhaps the most detailed 4K video, and with a wide-angle cam on top of the regular one it's a boon for action shooters.

Video low light
Winner: Tie. To each their own. The G6 is a bit dark, but it's probably the most expressive here. The S8's footage is pleasantly punchy out of the box, while the more laid-back Xperia could use a boost of contrast, but some will appreciate its natural look.

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http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_g6_samsung_galaxy...view-1612p9.php
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dun understand this kind butthurt fansboy... i might comment like those fanboy if that is a vote poll to choose which will be your fav phone but not like this go other brand thread bash and criticize ur phone sux la..my is the best...je ne comprend pas? i choose xzp not only i am sony fan but also becos of 4k hdr...slow mo is not really a big deal actually...if u compare the screen sharpness n quality u will know.. u see...now try talk another point... when sony Z ultra offer 6.44 screen ppl will say sony lost its mind la...screen so big for fuck la...then now 5.5 a pretty standard size u guys say small la...bezel la..vitrual key button make the screen even smaller la this la that la...omfg...wonder will ur bash other ppl gf bf husband wife like that also? if u r running business..will u go bash ur competitors like that ?tell ur customer or prospect that way?go to ur competitors shop bash them?
gsm arena is famous of bias samsung..u see those review that have tie results....some still indirect say s8 better but a tie? omg video u call a tie? go youtube search...i m not trying to bash s8 but s8 stabilization is not as good as xzp becos of the shaking jelly effect...performance wise...no comment but i saw lot video xzp n htc u11 load app faster than S8...

This post has been edited by hamtarox: Jun 13 2017, 03:35 PM
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post Jun 13 2017, 04:11 PM

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LOL.. no need argue one la.. dont reply his comment will do.. no ppl bother then automatically will fade away..

each phone have own pros & cons.. spend our money happily then okay lo.. if really rich like uncle benny then can test out all the phones and select the best suits for own use..
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post Jun 13 2017, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 13 2017, 04:11 PM)
LOL.. no need argue one la.. dont reply his comment will do.. no ppl bother then automatically will fade away..

each phone have own pros & cons.. spend our money happily then okay lo.. if really rich like uncle benny then can test out all the phones and select the best suits for own use..
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I can't believe the huge deal people make with bezels nowadays - I can't brain it.
I think if Sony is pushed any further, they might go crazy and just rage release a totally bezel-less phone, just to shutup the anti-bezel camp - and other brand-fans will still come in and make noise about it.

Anyhow, love this XZP - I miss the forest blue of XZ - but there is a chrome bluish tone in the deepsea black when under sunlight or bright indoor lighting.

The youtube 4k is jaw dropping - in terms of the colors..

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post Jun 13 2017, 06:17 PM

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But we like to hentam samtards what.. Hahaha

Buying a phone based on looks alone. Sad that both small fry htc and Sony can get their phones to run faster than the giant. Problem is, with such a thick overlay, things will only run even slower a few months down the road.
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post Jun 13 2017, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(lyn_grayskale @ Jun 13 2017, 06:13 PM)
I can't believe the huge deal people make with bezels nowadays - I can't brain it.
I think if Sony is pushed any further, they might go crazy and just rage release a totally bezel-less phone, just to shutup the anti-bezel camp  - and other brand-fans will still come in and make noise about it.

Anyhow, love this XZP - I miss the forest blue of XZ - but there is a chrome bluish tone in the deepsea black when under sunlight or bright indoor lighting.

The youtube 4k is jaw dropping - in terms of the colors..
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i missed that purple color...i missed my z1...mobo die..GG
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post Jun 13 2017, 06:35 PM

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Reporting in after a while on Z5.

I have just recently purchased mine Xperia XZ Premium (Titanium) over KLCC Sony Centre.

Have to agree that Sony is making a big come back to compete with Samsung. Obviously Sony is so much better tongue.gif

It just the tempered glass comes with Sony is really lousy -,-. Anyway to buy tempered glass over Lazada yet?
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post Jun 13 2017, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(unicode @ Jun 13 2017, 06:35 PM)
Reporting in after a while on Z5.

I have just recently purchased mine Xperia XZ Premium (Titanium) over KLCC Sony Centre.

Have to agree that Sony is making a big come back to compete with Samsung. Obviously Sony is so much better tongue.gif

It just the tempered glass comes with Sony is really lousy -,-. Anyway to buy tempered glass over Lazada yet?
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yes. lazada do have..but only front. taobao u can find back n front tempered glass..depends wat u need..some ppl dun like back put tempered glass
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QUOTE(hamtarox @ Jun 13 2017, 06:37 PM)
yes. lazada do have..but only front. taobao u can find back n front tempered glass..depends wat u need..some ppl dun like back put tempered glass
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Got some good one to suggest for the front on Lazada also what is a good transparent casing?
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post Jun 13 2017, 08:34 PM

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if you guys willing invest in the glass protector, you guys can try IMOS. just the bad news is that we need some help from Taiwanese friends.
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post Jun 14 2017, 12:12 AM

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hk user received new software update...i think malaysia soon
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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Jun 12 2017, 11:01 AM)
Why do Sony's phone bezels get bigger and bigger each year? It will be nice if they put in an infinity screen as all the rest of the specs are good.
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I do like bigger bezel, easy to hold n squeeze.

Just bought it today, the touch screen very smooth than my s8 with both applied temper glass sp.

The SD835 / 540 Adreno chipset way faster than s8.

Using Celcom network always at 4g+ Ampang, Pandan Mewah, Pandan Indah, Pandan Jaya, Pandan Perdana n Cheras area.

Will update more later.

Using Sony Ericsson phone since K700, K750, K770i, K850i, W800i, W850i, W880i, W890i, W910i, W990i n Satio model is the last i used.

After that HTC, Samsung, LG, 🍎, n back to Sony.

Sony this year came out new flagship xz premium model really hard work n successful.

Congratulations n bravo Sony.

Trust me coz im crazy gadgets just like uncle Benny maybe more than him.

Thanks n cheers.



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QUOTE(Maiden222 @ Jun 13 2017, 02:59 PM)
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Video
Winner: Tie. It's nearly impossible to pick one of the three - they're that good. The Xperia scores major points for its slo-mo video, but some will argue it's of limited use. Good thing then, that the Sony smartphone also excels in 4K and has a stabilization that works. The Galaxy S8 captures very good 4K itself, but reigns supreme in 1080p, where its stabilization also functions better than in 4K. The G6 has perhaps the most detailed 4K video, and with a wide-angle cam on top of the regular one it's a boon for action shooters.

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GSM Arena reviews have to be taken with a cargo ship load of salt. On almost anything subjective, they will praise Samsung till the ends of the world.

I fail to understand how can they claim the S8 reign supreme in 1080p when all video comparison shows way more shakes on the S8's video compared to the silky smooth videos recorded on the XZs/XZ Premium.

And don't let the 5.5" vs 5.8" fool you. It might seem like a "big" difference but it's only a 5% increase in screen real estate because of the longer 2:1 ratio as compared to the wider 16:9 ratio.

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QUOTE(hamtarox @ Jun 14 2017, 12:12 AM)
hk user received new software update...i think malaysia soon
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Most likely just a security patch update.

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post Jun 14 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Jun 14 2017, 08:50 AM)
GSM Arena reviews have to be taken with a cargo ship load of salt. On almost anything subjective, they will praise Samsung till the ends of the world.

I fail to understand how can they claim the S8 reign supreme in 1080p when all video comparison shows way more shakes on the S8's video compared to the silky smooth videos recorded on the XZs/XZ Premium.

And don't let the 5.5" vs 5.8" fool you. It might seem like a "big" difference but it's only a 5% increase in screen real estate because of the longer 2:1 ratio as compared to the wider 16:9 ratio.

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Most likely just a security patch update.
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many ppl say GSMARENA review are bias to apple n samsung . recombu, androidauthority review are more reliable...if u search trusted review in youtube...u will ROFL with the xzp review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlNyCez8WGc

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post Jun 14 2017, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(kcng999 @ Jun 14 2017, 04:48 AM)
I do like bigger bezel, easy to hold n squeeze.

Just bought it today,  the touch screen very smooth than my s8 with both applied temper glass sp.

The SD835 / 540 Adreno chipset way faster than s8.

Using Celcom network always at 4g+ Ampang, Pandan Mewah, Pandan Indah, Pandan Jaya, Pandan Perdana n Cheras area.

Will update more later.

Using Sony Ericsson  phone since K700, K750, K770i,  K850i, W800i, W850i, W880i, W890i, W910i, W990i n Satio model is the last i used.

After that HTC, Samsung, LG, 🍎, n back to Sony.

Sony this year came out new flagship xz premium model really hard work n successful.

Congratulations n bravo Sony.

Trust me coz im crazy gadgets just like uncle Benny maybe more than him.

Thanks n cheers.
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Most important you are happy with it, I also owned some a Sony devices before, Z Ultra, Z5 and Z3 Compact tablet. Sonys are good performers and quite lean skin. I only don't feel for the outdated design which they should evolve and strive to improve.
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QUOTE(kcng999 @ Jun 14 2017, 04:48 AM)
I do like bigger bezel, easy to hold n squeeze.

Just bought it today,  the touch screen very smooth than my s8 with both applied temper glass sp.

The SD835 / 540 Adreno chipset way faster than s8.

Using Celcom network always at 4g+ Ampang, Pandan Mewah, Pandan Indah, Pandan Jaya, Pandan Perdana n Cheras area.

Will update more later.

Using Sony Ericsson  phone since K700, K750, K770i,  K850i, W800i, W850i, W880i, W890i, W910i, W990i n Satio model is the last i used.

After that HTC, Samsung, LG, 🍎, n back to Sony.

Sony this year came out new flagship xz premium model really hard work n successful.

Congratulations n bravo Sony.

Trust me coz im crazy gadgets just like uncle Benny maybe more than him.

Thanks n cheers.
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rich ppl changing so many phones tongue.gif thumbup.gif

The phone i used before NOKIA 3310, Sony Ericsson T100, K750i, X10 (SE 1st Xperia & android phone), jump to Samsung S3, then go back SONY Z2.. now XZP.. icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Jun 14 2017, 10:39 AM)
Most important you are happy with it, I also owned some a Sony devices before, Z Ultra, Z5 and Z3 Compact tablet. Sonys are good performers and quite lean skin. I only don't feel for the outdated design which they should evolve and strive to improve.
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Well, u can give some opinions or suggestions to them, but mostly branded have their policy.

Like Apple sue Samsung for copy cat but now 🍎 purchase products from Samsung too.

1) Samsung S8 series no bezels

2) LG. G6 slim bezels with 16:9 ratio

3) Sony xz premium thick bezels, easy to hold, squeeze n best performance phone awards of the year 2017.


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QUOTE(bpay14 @ Jun 14 2017, 11:26 AM)
rich ppl changing so many phones  tongue.gif  thumbup.gif

The phone i used before NOKIA 3310, Sony Ericsson T100, K750i, X10 (SE 1st Xperia & android phone), jump to Samsung S3, then go back SONY Z2.. now XZP..  icon_idea.gif
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i only get my 1st phone after spm graduate... nokia 6510..then sony ericsson t610(one of the 1st phone with bluetooth i guess?) w850, G900, satio then HTC desire....samsung s2....Z1 ..Z5P..ZXP...
waze really consume power gao gao...1130 96% then use till about 2pm left 47%
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QUOTE(hamtarox @ Jun 14 2017, 02:52 PM)
i only get my 1st phone after spm graduate... nokia 6510..then sony ericsson t610(one of the 1st phone with bluetooth i guess?) w850, G900, satio then HTC desire....samsung s2....Z1 ..Z5P..ZXP...
waze really consume power gao gao...1130 96% then use till about 2pm left 47%
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yaloh.. GPS ohmy.gif

i monitor ytd, unplugged at 7am 100%
go to work around 1hour10mins driving with GPS..
balik also around 1hr..
reach home 7:30pm.. battery left around 20+%
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post Jun 14 2017, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(kcng999 @ Jun 14 2017, 04:48 AM)
I do like bigger bezel, easy to hold n squeeze.

Just bought it today,  the touch screen very smooth than my s8 with both applied temper glass sp.

The SD835 / 540 Adreno chipset way faster than s8.

Using Celcom network always at 4g+ Ampang, Pandan Mewah, Pandan Indah, Pandan Jaya, Pandan Perdana n Cheras area.

Will update more later.

Using Sony Ericsson  phone since K700, K750, K770i,  K850i, W800i, W850i, W880i, W890i, W910i, W990i n Satio model is the last i used.

After that HTC, Samsung, LG, 🍎, n back to Sony.

Sony this year came out new flagship xz premium model really hard work n successful.

Congratulations n bravo Sony.

Trust me coz im crazy gadgets just like uncle Benny maybe more than him.

Thanks n cheers.
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Really much smoother than the S8?

I've seen tons of reviews saying it trumps the S8.

And to think that the S8 is still new and should perform at it's best. Give the S8 a couple months down the road the software lags like my grandmother. T_T
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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ Jun 14 2017, 03:03 PM)
Really much smoother than the S8?

I've seen tons of reviews saying it trumps the S8.

And to think that the S8 is still new and should perform at it's best. Give the S8 a couple months down the road the software lags like my grandmother. T_T
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What ever people said or based on reviews some was true only.

Anything must try n test by ourselves then will know the results on it.

Never try never know on new gadgets.

U try u know.

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