well...this is very subjective n very own preference. like then like. don like then don like. XZP wont get best phone award without any reason. if u try elminate bezel on XZP it will look FUGLY IMHO. my conclusion is sony need a need design language if wan thinner bezel.since u say ppl buy apple for branding n software, i can also say ppl buy this phone for features(960 fps, 4k hdr, etc u name it)

very simple mah..
all manufacturer have their own design & direction.

not necessary everyone should follow the big trend.
if dont like then dont choose/dont buy it loh

it's really very subjective 1.. in chinese we call 见仁见智..
as for me, 16:9 screen is good enough for me.

and actually 5.5" to me i feel a little way too big screen, my previous Z2 at 5.2" was perfect size. but nowadays all flagship is like a "must" to have a huge big screen, i dont know why.
u can't get at 5" with snapdragon 835 spec (example), can u?
even samsung S series, the size now is already bigger than Note

To be frank, I've decided to not bait an eye towards bezel arguments. It's not like you are buying the phone solely just for admiring the bezels regardless thick or thin.

Hahahaha.. no need argue so much one la.. not to protect sony .

every phone have different features and advantages.. I hope to have all in one but this is impossible.. most importantly, find something that you really need it.. I'll always give suggestions to my friends based on their needs..

Sony have 960fps and captured natural color photos..
Samsung have Samsung pay, good camera and software features
Huawei have nice gesture customisation, dual camera with software aperture mode
LG have wide angle camera..

This post has been edited by ChuanHong: Jun 12 2017, 10:46 PM

So far Xiaomi Mi6 5.15" had SG835 / Adreno 540

Yes true,

Its depend on what we need,

1) Outlook Design

2) Latest Chip set & Processor

3) 64gb Or 128gb Build In Memory + Extension Memory Card Slot

4) With Tick Or Thin Bezel Or Without Bezel

5) Fast Charge, Wireless Charge & Battery Capacity

6) IP68 Certified

7) Camera Day & Night Zoom, 4K Video, Led Flash, EIS, OIS & HDR

8) IR Blaster & FM Radio

9) Warranty Provide 1yr Or 2yr, 1 to 1 Exchange & Any Freebies By Suppliers Of Branded



This post has been edited by kcng999: Jun 13 2017, 01:09 AM

Aiyo, why so much self justification here.

As if sony one day comes out with a smaller bezel phone, you guys will go ewwwww!!! DITCH SONY I'm gonna go look for a bigger bezel phone!!!

It's definitely not a design language thing la. There are technological and technical reasons behind it yes, but don't come out with self justifying claims saying that it's for design reasons.

ok, let's talk back about XZP.

after 6 days usage, the battery life is not impressing.. aikss.
jz working fairly better than my 3-year-old Z2..

but the quick charging is good indeed.

Incoming June Security Patch.

mayb u watch lot 4k ? i only realize my phone power drop like lao sai when i watch 4k content... like yesterday my usage from 10am-8pm my power left 40+% which i din watch lot 4k but only comic reading..fb, texting n slow mo video.

i am afraid this is a double standard towards a certain brand.
in every reviews, there will be certain someone in the comments section love to justify the bezels.

no le.. i didnt watch 4K alot..
in fact from day 1 till now i only tried to watch 4K in youtube twice for spiderman trailer & transformer trailer haha..

but i did use google map GPS ytd alot. will try to monitor again.

But the bezel is really thick for a 2017 flagship phone even s8+ near a perfect phone also double standard now a design that 5 years backwards.

did you guys notice the tax invoice issued by Thorus for the pre-order..
the phone is not "sell to" our own name? it's someone else name..
wonder this kind of tax invoice, would be accepted by LHDN or not (if really kena).. lolzz

GPS confirm consume lot power la..lol

some butthurt fans from other brand...i still remember when sony 1st launch full metal frame phone, they say metal heavy la..easy scratch la ,cannot replace battery la this n that la..then when now mostly all brand go to full metal...they keep quiet but then change focus say to bezel, fingerprint magnet la UI sux la...aiyo..dun like dun buy la...go lick ur fav brand ball n dun critic on other brands

i buy phone no see brand one, i only see the quality, and what extra function they provide. In d end after research all the flagship for 2017, i choose sony for the 960 FPS video, lolz. S8 really Meh for me

Sony, at least the chrome phone Body attract me also.

But now 1 issue, not much accessory for SONY phone sell in KL shop...

Many accessory shop focus on Samsung, Apple, Huawei.

Sony accessories very limited

always go taobao 1st....lot accessories malaysia din bring in...even simple 1.5m display port cable whole digital mall oso dun have....only 1m...

Same I don't see brand either I see the value, design and additional features then decided xpz is not my cup of tea because screen too small, bezel too thick, 960 fps video useless for me.,


Based on gsmarena review s8 vs LG g6 vs Xperia xz premium

Design
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. In this most refined incarnation of the dual-edge concept the Galaxy S8 is the most posh looking phone here, all the while being reasonably comfortable to handle. The fingerprint reader is obviously in the wrong place, though. The G6 feels bulkier, but offers a more secure grip thanks to fatter sides and flat screen, and undoubtedly a better placed fingerprint sensor. The XZ Premium isn't keeping up with the edge-to-edge trends this year when even Sony's own XA1 Ultra has gone on a diet and has shed the side bezels for a more modern look.

Display
Winner: Tie between the Samsung Galaxy S8 and the Sony Xperia XZ Premium. The S8 wins in brightness, contrast and outdoor visibility. The Premium is the sharpest by far, has the most usable screen area and allows streaming in 2160p across various services. The G6 supports Dolby Vision on top of the other two's HDR 10, but that's as much as it's got on the competition.

Battery life
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. The Samsung handset manages the best endurance with the smallest battery and has comprehensive battery saver options. The Xperia is similarly well-equipped in terms of battery saving features, but it's not as long lasting. The G6 is just average in both areas.

Connectivity
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. The G6 takes a hit for its older chipset that lacks Gigabit LTE and Bluetooth 5.0, while the S8 and XZ Premium sport the chips of the day and are mostly tied. Until the S8 pulls out its DeX trump card - of course, a handful of people will get one, but the option is there for those that want to.

Software
Winner: Tie between the Sony Xperia XZ Premium and the Samsung Galaxy S8. The XZ Premium will appeal to purists, while the S8 is the most feature-packed. The G6 offers little on top of stock Android, but is thoroughly redesigned nonetheless.

Loudspeaker
Winner: Tough one. We'd call it a tie as none really excels. The Xperia has stereo speakers going for it, but they're pretty quiet; the G6 is loud, at the expense of distortion at maximum volume; the S8 is the most balanced, but we can't call it a winner, when it doesn't have stereo speakers, and a competitor does.

Audio quality
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. The loudest output with the least degradation in quality when under load comes from the Samsung headset.

Performance
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. A predictable showing from the three phones in the benchmarks - the Galaxy S8 in Exynos trim is the usual chart-topper, followed closely by the Snapdragon 835-powered S8 and the Xperia XZ Premium. The LG G6 does the best with what it's got, but the last gen chip can't compete in the numbers game. That said, you'd be hard-pressed to find a substantial difference in the behavior of the devices in actual use.

Camera
Winner: Tie. The S8 has remarkable noise reduction that cancels out noise without affecting edge detail. It's also got the dual pixel autofocus, which is unmatched for speed and accuracy. The Xperia can capture an abundance of detail, has the widest dynamic range (even if by a small margin) and you can rely on Superior Auto to pick the right scene mode for you. The G6 deserves praise for what it achieves with the smallest sensor here - fine detail, well-controlled noise, good dynamic range. Not to mention that it's got two of them rear cams and the wide-angle one is massive fun to shoot with.

Camera HDR
Winner: Tie. All are decent, but far from remarkable. The S8 has a live preview, which is nice, the Xperia will handle HDR for you in Superior Auto, while the LG is a bit awkward in changing modes, but all of these are too minor to make a difference.

Camera low light with tripod

Winner: Sony Xperia XZ Premium. When properly supported on a tripod and in Manual mode (it's basically shutter priority, but still), the Xperia is capable of producing excellent low-light shots with total detail levels unmatched by the other two. The G6 may resolve a tiny bit more on a per-pixel level when shot from the same spot, but walk a few steps to frame the same composition on the Xperia, and the G6's longer lens advantage disappears. The Galaxy S8 can't compete for detail, but it's also got the lowest noise. Just make sure you don't go slower than 1/4s because the heavier noise reduction eradicates all intricate detail.

Camera panorama
Winner: Tie between the Samsung Galaxy S8 and the LG G6. The S8 is the sharpest but has that pesky exposure stitching ruining its shots, while the G6 has stitching issues on a local level. The Xperia doesn't stitch flawlessly either and is got the softest image.

Camera selfie
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. You may need to learn its autofocusing quirks, but once you do, the S8 will reward you with the most pleasing images of the three.

Video
Winner: Tie. It's nearly impossible to pick one of the three - they're that good. The Xperia scores major points for its slo-mo video, but some will argue it's of limited use. Good thing then, that the Sony smartphone also excels in 4K and has a stabilization that works. The Galaxy S8 captures very good 4K itself, but reigns supreme in 1080p, where its stabilization also functions better than in 4K. The G6 has perhaps the most detailed 4K video, and with a wide-angle cam on top of the regular one it's a boon for action shooters.

Video low light
Winner: Tie. To each their own. The G6 is a bit dark, but it's probably the most expressive here. The S8's footage is pleasantly punchy out of the box, while the more laid-back Xperia could use a boost of contrast, but some will appreciate its natural look.

SOS
http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_g6_samsung_galaxy...view-1612p9.php

So if you like $8 so much, what are you doing here? Do we need to justify our purchase to you? You think you can convince us to change to a Sammy?
Anyway does anyone here aware that the SURFACE AREA of the xzp is the same or slightly bigger than the S8? Not many are aware because of the aspect ratio.
Anyway I only buy either HTC or Sony. Nokia can be considered as well if their latest phones are decent. Sony also not considered by me until the xzp came out. Haha.

PS. S8 users don't be butthurt, your phone also not bad. Really!