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persona93
post Nov 26 2018, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Nov 26 2018, 04:48 PM)
Like that can consider i5-8400 also (unless really prefer Ryzen)

Why?

1. Slightly cheaper: i5-8400 (799) vs Ryzen 5 2600x (899)
2. In case of GPU problem, 8400 has integrated GPU for you to trouble shoot and hang on while waiting for RMA
3. Intel platform not tempting you to get more expensive RAM to perform better. Ryzen likes 3000-3200MHZ, Intel ok with 2400-2666MHz
4. Performance is comparable, so you are not missing out much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ats6AYz6Z3I

For Rx580, I guess it is ok as you want to work with Freesync. But some say forget about Adaptive Sync and just go for better bang for buck, at which the GTX 1060 6GB (RM1099 for Galax at Viewnet) might save more, and you could even opt for GTX 1070 Ti (1899 at viewnet), as Vega 56/64 are still crazy priced.
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thanks for this valuable input

will relay this info to my friend
tryingtolearn
post Nov 26 2018, 06:16 PM

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[Budget] RM1.5k [Lower the better if possible]

[Purpose] 24/7 PC. Will populate with 2-4 HDD in the future.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] No Monitor. Headless.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Want to run either multiple linux VM or Linux with multiple containers. No resource heavy applications.

[Personal preferences] Want to start with Athlon 200GE and upgrade when I'm able to. Want a MATX/ATX with 4 RAM Slots, can accept Ryzen 7 1xxx/2xxx CPUs in the future. Cheapest 250GB SSD. 8GB RAM. Used casing is okay.

[Location] Ipoh but don't mind going to KL to get the items or online.
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post Nov 26 2018, 06:47 PM

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i5-8400/8500, H310M mobo, GTX1050Ti 4GB, 8GB ram, with PSU, casing, HDD and SSD, roughly how muhc in the market now?

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post Nov 26 2018, 07:09 PM

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mbr
post Nov 26 2018, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(tryingtolearn @ Nov 26 2018, 06:16 PM)
[Budget] RM1.5k [Lower the better if possible]

[Purpose] 24/7 PC. Will populate with 2-4 HDD in the future.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] No Monitor. Headless.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Want to run either multiple linux VM or Linux with multiple containers. No resource heavy applications.

[Personal preferences] Want to start with Athlon 200GE and upgrade when I'm able to. Want a MATX/ATX with 4 RAM Slots, can accept Ryzen 7 1xxx/2xxx CPUs in the future. Cheapest 250GB SSD. 8GB RAM. Used casing is okay.

[Location] Ipoh but don't mind going to KL to get the items or online.
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Barebones PC:
CPU: ATHLON 200GE (235)
Mboard: ASUS PRIME B350M-A (349)
RAM: DDR4-2666 8GB (around 270) Make sure it is compatible!
PSU: CM MWE 450W (189)
SSD: Kingston A400 240GB (155)
Casing: Tecware Core MATX (89)

Current total: 1287

Is this what you wanted? With that processor and RAM, unsure if you can do multiple Linux VM.
mbr
post Nov 26 2018, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(kevin916587 @ Nov 26 2018, 06:47 PM)
i5-8400/8500, H310M mobo, GTX1050Ti 4GB, 8GB ram, with PSU, casing, HDD and SSD, roughly how muhc in the market now?
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Help yourself to the many price lists around:

http://www.viewnet.com.my/downloads/viewne...y_pricelist.pdf
http://www.compu-zone.com/index.php/price-...ownloads-in-pdf
http://www.thundermatch.com.my/price_list
https://www.jayacom.com.my/jayacom-retails-price-lists


QUOTE(iamtheone2020 @ Nov 26 2018, 07:09 PM)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Processor with Wraith Prism LED Cooler
Mobo: MSI Performance Gaming AMD X470 Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 Onboard Graphics CFX ATX Motherboard (X470 Gaming PRO)
GPU: PNY NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB XLR8 Gaming Overclocked Graphics Card
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000MHz C15
SSD: Samsung 970 EVO 1TB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD

Hi sifus, the above are what im having so far.Buying bit by bit since last month.. Im looking for a casing and psu recommendation. Also is it necessary to buy a HDD ? i dont use above 1tb in my current desktop. This will be my first upgrade after 9 years . I have only another 1k to spend..
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1. What kind of case depends on some factors
a. whether you plan to do water cooling in the future
b. how much stuff you want to add in the PC (eg how many HDD, how long is your GC)
c. Do you want to display your components and lighting?

2. HDD is prefered if you want to save some items that are not often used. It is not advisable to fill up your SSD beyond 80% capacity. Dont be surprised if large files like high def media come in fast once you get addicted to speed.


mbr
post Nov 26 2018, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ Nov 26 2018, 04:55 PM)
thanks for this valuable input

will relay this info to my friend
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As for monitors... Ask your friend what is more important... graphical details or frame rate or resolution?

Usually you get to choose 2 of 3... that would determine the model

Good details generally mean IPS and usually you are stuck with 60-75 Hz refresh, but you have affordable options up to 2k display

Fast frames of 120-144 Hz generally mean TN/VA panels, with VA usually has slightly better looking details.

Check the monitor threads for more explanations and poisons https://forum.lowyat.net/MonitorDiscussions
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post Nov 26 2018, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Nov 26 2018, 08:42 PM)
Help yourself to the many price lists around:

http://www.viewnet.com.my/downloads/viewne...y_pricelist.pdf
http://www.compu-zone.com/index.php/price-...ownloads-in-pdf
http://www.thundermatch.com.my/price_list
https://www.jayacom.com.my/jayacom-retails-price-lists
1. What kind of case depends on some factors
a. whether you plan to do water cooling in the future
b. how much stuff you want to add in the PC (eg how many HDD, how long is your GC)
c. Do you want to display your components and lighting?

2. HDD is prefered if you want to save some items that are not often used. It is not advisable to fill up your SSD beyond 80% capacity. Dont be surprised if large files like high def media come in fast once you get addicted to speed.
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hi bro,
1) i5 8400 or 8500, to choose?
2) ASUS H310M-K mobo, is it future proof? i mean can i upgrade my hardwares in the future?
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post Nov 26 2018, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Nov 26 2018, 08:34 PM)
Barebones PC:
CPU: ATHLON 200GE (235)
Mboard: ASUS PRIME B350M-A (349)
RAM: DDR4-2666 8GB (around 270) Make sure it is compatible!
PSU: CM MWE 450W (189)
SSD: Kingston A400 240GB (155)
Casing: Tecware Core MATX (89)

Current total: 1287

Is this what you wanted? With that processor and RAM, unsure if you can do multiple Linux VM.
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This is great! Can I know the Motherboard and PSU sufficient enough for Ryzen 7 1700 or 2700? And if I go with the 1700/2700, what low power/low cost GPU should I pair it with?

I'm okay with running just one OS now [no VM] with multiple container. Currently running a Raspberry Pi with about 8 containers, its okay but looking for something much more powerful.


Thanks again.

mbr
post Nov 26 2018, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(kevin916587 @ Nov 26 2018, 09:59 PM)
hi bro,
1) i5 8400 or 8500, to choose?
2) ASUS H310M-K mobo, is it future proof? i mean can i upgrade my hardwares in the future?
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1. 8400 is pretty capable. The 8500 is slightly faster but not so much difference. Both cannot overclock

2. If want to upgrade stuff, better choose at lease B360/H370. You could upgrade to intel 9 series too...
mbr
post Nov 26 2018, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(tryingtolearn @ Nov 26 2018, 10:02 PM)
This is great! Can I know the Motherboard and PSU sufficient enough for Ryzen 7 1700 or 2700? And if I go with the 1700/2700, what low power/low cost GPU should I pair it with?

I'm okay with running just one OS now [no VM] with multiple container. Currently running a Raspberry Pi with about 8 containers, its okay but looking for something much more powerful.
Thanks again.
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Motherboard yes, PSU not recommended. Might consider something with at least 80 bronze rating as you are going to have it on 24/7. Maybe look at superflower leadex silver eco line?

Low power low cost GPU? You mean like GT 730 and GT 1030?
Current Events guy
post Nov 27 2018, 01:14 AM

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[B][Budget] RM2000

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] My preference is to maintain most of it
Here is what I currently have

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[Monitor resolution] 1080p, I already have a BENQ XL2411P

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Current gen games, I find that my copy of Street Fighter 5 slows down terribly when I use some character mods.

[Personal preferences]
I prefer to upgrade only one or two items in my current hardware. I am fine with how most things are right now, I just find it weird that I get slow down when I'm playing SF5 with mods.
Then again, my PC is 10 years old.

[Location] KL
mbr
post Nov 27 2018, 06:36 AM

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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Nov 27 2018, 01:14 AM)
[B][Budget] RM2000

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] My preference is to maintain most of it
Here is what I currently have

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


[Monitor resolution] 1080p, I already have a BENQ XL2411P

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Current gen games, I find that my copy of Street Fighter 5 slows down terribly when I use some character mods.

[Personal preferences]
I prefer to upgrade only one or two items in my current hardware. I am fine with how most things are right now, I just find it weird that I get slow down when I'm playing SF5 with mods.
Then again, my PC is 10 years old.

[Location] KL
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Complete upgrading of your rig is recommended.

i5-8400 with B360 motherboard and 8gb ddr4-2400 (around rm1450)
add a decent 250gb ssd (eg samsung 860 evo at rm280) and good 550w psu (eg superflower silver eco at rm260)

Can reuse your R9 380 and hdd.
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post Nov 27 2018, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Nov 27 2018, 06:36 AM)
Complete upgrading of your rig is recommended.

i5-8400 with B360 motherboard and 8gb ddr4-2400 (around rm1450)
add a decent 250gb ssd (eg samsung 860 evo at rm280) and good 550w psu (eg superflower silver eco at rm260)

Can reuse your R9 380 and hdd.
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I've got several questions,

1. Is the slowdown I'm facing while gaming due to the processor or RAM?
2. If I doubled my budget, would you recommend that I still use the same GPU?
mbr
post Nov 27 2018, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Nov 27 2018, 01:40 PM)
I've got several questions,

1. Is the slowdown I'm facing while gaming due to the processor or RAM?
2. If I doubled my budget, would you recommend that I still use the same GPU?
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1. likely CPU. you could check through monitoring cpu and gpu usage while gaming. See whichever seems to be running like 95++% when the stutters happen. 16gb ddr3 is a bit hard to fault.

2. At 4k budget, I would recommend GPU upgrade to a gtx1070Ti. You would be comfortably running games at 1080p for a couple of years at high or ultra settings. That will be 3 tiers above your r9 380

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

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QUOTE(mbr @ Nov 27 2018, 03:43 PM)
1. likely CPU. you could check through monitoring cpu and gpu usage while gaming. See whichever seems to be running like 95++% when the stutters happen

2. At 4k budget, I would recommend GPU upgrade to a gtx1070Ti. You would be comfortably running games at 1080p for a couple of years at high or ultra settings.
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Alright, thanks.

I thought I could get away with just changing the GPU again, but that might not suit my already aging motherboard.

I'll check the cpu and GPU usage to be sure though.
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QUOTE(mbr @ Nov 20 2018, 09:28 AM)
Core items

i3-8100 (499)
GIGABYTE B360M-D2V (339)
KINGSTON D4 PC2400 8GB (260)
ZOTAC GTX1050 TI 4G MINI (739)
SAMSUNG 860 EVO 500GB (485)
WD BARRACUDA DESKTOP 1TB (175)
Cooler Master MWE 450W (189)
Tecware NEXUS TG MATX (139)

Total = 2825 (C-zone, 12 Nov)
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Thanks for the suggestion. If i dont want the 1tb hard disk as I have my external hard disk. I kept almost all of my work in there. What can i improve? GC or Cpu? And i have raise my budget to around 3.2k to.include monitor. What monitor can i get?
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post Nov 27 2018, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(GGikhwan @ Nov 27 2018, 09:16 PM)
Thanks for the suggestion. If i dont want the 1tb hard disk as I have my external hard disk. I kept almost all of my work in there. What can i improve? GC or Cpu? And i have raise my budget to around 3.2k to.include monitor. What monitor can i get?
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i5-8400 (799)
GIGABYTE B360M-D2V (339)
KINGSTON D4 PC2400 8GB (260)
SAPPHIRE RX570 4G NITRO+ (699)
SAMSUNG 860 EVO 500GB (470)
Cooler Master MWE 450W (189)
Tecware NEXUS TG MATX (139)

Monitor: LG 22MK430H (355)
IPS, Full HD (1080p), FreeSync https://www.lg.com/my/monitors/lg-22MK430H-B

Performance? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr1FsEyQKVg


Total RM 3250 (C-zone)

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post Nov 28 2018, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Nov 26 2018, 10:39 PM)
1. 8400 is pretty capable. The 8500 is slightly faster but not so much difference. Both cannot overclock

2. If want to upgrade stuff, better choose at lease B360/H370. You could upgrade to intel 9 series too...
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Hi, sorry, last question, i guess? 😅 would like to ask
i5 8400 vs Ryzen 5 2400G? Which to choose?

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