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post Aug 26 2018, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(zlewe @ Aug 26 2018, 06:26 PM)
Hi sifus, need recommendations on the pc I'm building for my family.

[B][Budget]  RM2.3k
[Purpose] Multimedia/Light-gaming
[Hardwares that will be re-use] None
[Monitor resolution] 1080p
[Games & softwares that use frequently]
[Personal preferences] Ryzen R3 APU, dual channel RAM, 24' IPS monitor
[Location] Kedah

Btw, is buying parts online nowadays advisable?
I'm fine with building it but this rig is intended for my family and they would probably need "after-sales service" if some problem arises in the future.
That being said, I don't know any trustable retail shop that provides good after-sales services in my location.
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Go ahead and bring the list to any nearby shops for peace of mind.

From Jayacom pricelist: https://www.jayacom.com.my/jayacom-retails-price-lists (No affiliation, just grabbing something convenient to me)

CPU set:
Ryzen 3 2400G, RM638 (comes with stock cooler, if not wrong)
Asrock AB350M HDV, RM265 (will need to update BIOS, ask the shop to do)
Kingston DDR4-2666 4GB x2, RM340
Seagate 2TB HDD, RM245
Cooler Master MWE 400W, RM 150
Cooler Master Elite 311, RM 165
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Subtotal RM 1803

Monitor: AOC M2470SWD (23.6', IPS), RM 385
Keybard and Mouse: Logitech MK120 Combo, RM 48

Total so far: RM 2236

KIV add a DVD+RW 24x Optical drive for RM 53.

Will be overbudget if want to include OS... but maybe the SHOP can do bundle OEM installation for you.

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post Aug 26 2018, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(sneaker @ Aug 26 2018, 04:13 PM)
Hi Sifuu, need some recommendation on the hardware to build new rig. Thanks.
[Budget] RM2500
[Purpose] Gaming
[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, speaker, keyboard, mouse, hard disk, SSD
[Monitor resolution] 1080p
[Games & softwares that use frequently] Games that only available/play on PC. For games available on cross platform (xbox or ps4), will be using console to play.
[Personal preferences] Will be running at stock without O/C.
[Location] JB
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For 1080p, maybe GTX1060 6GB is an overkill

From Jayacom pricelist: https://www.jayacom.com.my/jayacom-retails-price-lists (No affiliation, just grabbing something convenient to me)

Ryzen 5 1600, RM735 (with stock cooler)
Asrock AB350 Pro4, RM370
Zotac GTX 1050Ti Mini, RM719
Kingston DDR4-2666 8GB, RM320
Cooler Master MWE 450W RM 170 (tier 4 PSU, but not BAD by any means)

Total ~ RM 2314 before casing

Get any casing RM 140-168 that you prefer.
With the 450W, you have room to upgrade GPU next time for higher performance, let's say GTX1060 6GB or RX580.

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post Aug 26 2018, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(loonar92 @ Aug 26 2018, 06:22 PM)
Hi guys, I am about to purchase my first ever gaming rig. Just need your kind advice on whether the parts are the best choice for my budget.

[Budget] 4.5k Max
[Purpose] Gaming only
[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Mice n KB
[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080
[Games & softwares that use frequently] Monster Hunter World, CS GO
[Location] KL
PC specs below:

CPU: i5 8400
MOBO: Gigabyte B360M HD3
GPU: Galax GTX 1060 EX OC 6GB
RAM: 2x Aegis GSkill 8GB DDR4 2666MHZ
PSU: Super Flower 650w LeadEx 80+ Gold Full Modular
SSD: Samsung 250GB 860 EVO 2.5'
HDD: Seagate 2TB Barracuda
Case: Fractal Design Focus G window ATX or Tecware Nexus M TG MATX  (Whichever is available in store)
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Your PSU and GPU looks a bit overkill for 1080p gaming. So is the RAM, as a matter of fact.
It is a good rig that should last you a while, though.

Possible suggestion to save money or get more value:
1. Can reduce to DDR4-2400, 16GB single stick (though I suspect 8GB is probably plenty for next 2-3 years, for 1080p)
2. Change to another decent brand of SSD but higher capacity (eg 480/500GB) at RM 450 or less
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post Aug 26 2018, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ Aug 26 2018, 09:14 PM)
1060 isn’t overkill for 1080p. It’s actually the sweet spot for it. I3 8100 + 1060 will give better performance compared to 1600 + 1050Ti.
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It depends on the games and the monitor, I suppose.

Sure, for newer games, maintaining 60FPS will need better GPU. I am thinking that the player could make use of the 1050Ti and wait for the GTX2050 and see if that is the next step up, in about 3-6 months.

For older games like CS:GO, 1050Ti is enough if 60Hz is the monitor refresh. Unless the player wanted to upgrade to 120/144Hz, that is.

I am thinking that the AM4 has more upgrade path in the future, so the player can make full use of it and upgrade parts such as GPU and CPU as needed. But that is up to the player to decide.
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post Aug 28 2018, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Aug 28 2018, 03:32 AM)
Guys also is it ok in my build I just have a 250gb SSD and no hdd in it???
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Depends on your usage. Remember that OS and basic apps can take up to 60-80GB. If for gaming, Steam and such might take up another 30-80Gb quickly And you will want to have at least 20-50GB free on your boot drive. So dont think it will be enough if you tend to keep lots of files. Cant keep game backups on the SSD and have to keep downloading them or offloading to other drives later.

QUOTE(jiant @ Aug 28 2018, 04:56 AM)
Any suggestion for midrange H110 which is Gen 7 CPU ready motherboard?
Pls: No need manually update BIOS.
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Probably best to go to shops and see what they have, as H110 boards are not exactly easy to find. Probably the stores can help with BIOS update for a small fee (or free), if you are not keen on doing it yourself. Else, consider buying used from people who already proved their board working with Kabylake.
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post Aug 30 2018, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Aug 30 2018, 06:53 PM)
got example?

i mean how they will show it? like on spec
DRAM : YES
DRAM : NO
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Check out Patriot: https://www.info.patriotmemory.com/burst-ssd
Model specs in pdf at the bottom of the page.
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post Sep 1 2018, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(Karenalvin @ Aug 31 2018, 10:02 PM)
Budget: blank slate, but i think for my requirement it should not be that pricey gua...
Purpose: torrent box, home network storage
Hardwares that will be re-use: none
Monitor resolution: not important
Games & softwares that use frequently: will run on linux with torrent client and NAS
Personal preferences: low energy consumption? Slots for HDD
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You could try with UNRAID rather than using RAID on motherboard (https://unraid.net/)

AMD A6-9500: RM 205
Asrock AB350M HDV: RM 265
Kingston DDR4-2400 4GB: RM 168
Cooler Master MWE 400W: RM 150
Cooler master Elite 311: RM 165
(Prices from Jayacom)


Actually, I was thinking FM2 based system such as (A88XMA) would be better with more SATA HDD supported, but harder to find in shops.

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post Sep 1 2018, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(HaHeHo @ Sep 1 2018, 08:49 PM)
sifu. is built-in psu 60w is enuf for g4560+1 2.5hdd+ external hdd/pendrive(occasional use) + 4gb ram + wifi usb+wireless keyboard?
60w is the typical vesa itx case's built-in PSU rite?
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I have seen 60-180W units. They work as they should. When in doubt, use powered USB hubs for devices.
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post Sep 4 2018, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(SoLiD @ Sep 3 2018, 04:55 PM)
Processor  : AMD Ryzen 5 2600X
Motherboard : Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro
Memory : 2x Cosair Vengeance LPX 8GB DDR4 3000Mhz
Graphic : ASUS GTX1060 STRIX DC2 OC
Storage : 1x 250GB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 (OS)
            : 1x 250GB Samsung 850 Evo Sata (Games)
            : 1x 4TB WD Blue Caviar (Storage)
Power Supply : Corsair CX650M 80+ Bronze
Casing : Fractal Design Define r6

need some advice for the build above, trying to keep it around 5k.

do i need the 2600x or just stick to 2600

PC is use for moderate gaming (WoW/OW/LoL), some video/photo editing.
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According to viewnet pricelist, optional:

CPU: Ryzen 7-1700 for the same price as 2600x
Motherboard : Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (saves RM70)
SSD: 500Gb Samsung 860 EVO SATA (double capacity for RM100 more)
GPU: Galax GTX1060 OC (Save RM230)

Getting a larger SSD means longer lifespan too, usually

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post Sep 4 2018, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(DX_das @ Sep 4 2018, 10:19 AM)
Looking for recommendation based on below specification

[Budget]: RM3000

[Purpose]: Office Usage Only
[Hardwares that will be re-use]: None
[Monitor resolution]: 1920 x 1080
[Games & softwares that use frequently] Microsoft Office
[Personal preferences]: Intel Core series i5 with 16GB ram
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For MS Office, you dont need i5 or 6-8 threads, or 16GB RAM sweat.gif

CPU: Intel DUAL CORE G5400 RM229
Mboard: ASUS PRIME H310M-K RM275
RAM: Kingston D4-2400 8GB: RM 299
HDD: Seagate 2TB: RM239
PSU: FSP Hexa+ 400W: RM 139
Casing: Cooler Master Master Box Lite 3.1 RM 169

Subtotal: 1350

Optional if gaming or doing graphic intensive work
upgrade CPU to i5-8400 (add RM520)
upgrade RAM to 16GB (add RM 299)
add GPU

Others
Monitor: Viewsonic VA2259 slim (IPS): RM369
Peripheral:Logitech MK 120 Combo: RM49

Software
OS:Windows 10 License (Shop RM 399, online RM10)
Office: OFFICE 365 PERSONAL 2013: RM 139

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post Sep 4 2018, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Sep 4 2018, 02:27 PM)
You actually need if your excel file is 100MB+ using today's format. Especially when you are working on a big company. You might be able to get away with 8GB RAM though.
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Yeah. Well, those companies won't be asking about custom quotes, I think smile.gif

They should have proper databases and not rely on Excel alone, too.

I am often irritated when dealers offer PCs with specs using i7 but only 4GB RAM.
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post Sep 4 2018, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Sep 4 2018, 07:13 PM)
Yup, I hope they push their IT department to have a proper PC on every user.
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I hope most IT support are savvy enough to know what users need... or ask here in lowyat tongue.gif

I have only tried excel files of 15-20MB. So am not too sure how bad is the crunch (only 8GB ram on my laptop)
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post Sep 4 2018, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(revelnights91 @ Sep 4 2018, 09:40 PM)
Hi folks, I have been using laptops for years now and this will be my first proper PC build. Will be using it just like I would on a laptop but with more power and changeability down the road.
B][Budget] RM3000
[Purpose] Browsing, gaming, and basic computing
[Hardwares that will be re-use] No idea
[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080
[Games & softwares that use frequently] Chrome, Steam, and Microsoft Office.
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What games do you wish to play and what are your expectations on performance? Do you have space limits?
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post Sep 4 2018, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(revelnights91 @ Sep 4 2018, 09:53 PM)
Not bad. I think can stretch abit more budget for i5.
CS:GO, Rocket League, Tomb Raider series, Need For Speed. I just want to play Low-Medium with stable framerates. Gaming laptop heats up way too fast.
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Hmm... You could follow TristanX's i3-8100 rig and get a gtx1060 6gb rather than get a cpu upgrade. You could balance out with cheaper mouse and keyboard, and maybe slightly cheaper psu (ensure decent build). Or just grab a used graphics card.

Try find a slim matx casing. That would give you more room to work with, cheaper motherboard, and better ventilation options.

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post Sep 4 2018, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(revelnights91 @ Sep 4 2018, 10:02 PM)
Nice. Think can be lower as I already have keyboard and mouse. Also headphones.
Okay. Duly noted.

So should I first hunt for a case? Then motherboard? Or can buy parts at random order? Afraid of compatibility issues.
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If you are looking to build it yourself, dont start with a small case for your first build. Choose something like a midtower with more space to work in. Make sure it has features like usb3, and enough ventilation.

Also make sure that your motherboard will fit inside, usually m-atx wont have much issues. Another thing to observe is the graphic card length, which may cause headaches in smaller cases. slim builds also may force you to choose cards with low profile brackets. Stock coolers that come with cpu are usually not too big, but adequate for average users.

Other than space inside case, you could just follow parts listed, as recommendations need to follow compatibility too. buying from same shop usually gets you a bundle discount too.


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post Sep 4 2018, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(itsClois @ Sep 4 2018, 10:14 PM)
Hello sifus, I'm looking to build a budget streaming PC of the below:-

[Budget] RM1K-2K
[Purpose] Streaming (dual-monitor setup)
[Hardwares that will be re-use] Have a used monitor and old PC's i5-2500K and GTX580, if advisable to reuse
[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080
[Games & softwares that use frequently] Wish to stream at 1080p 60fps @ 2500-3500 kbps

Appreciate your advice for most budget streaming PC that can also be disposable as mediocre gaming PC (run games at low/medium). Thx in advance smile.gif
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Can we know what is your current specs besides i5-2500k and gtx580?
From what I see online, you need more threads and graphic muscles for streaming smoothly.
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post Sep 5 2018, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(itsClois @ Sep 4 2018, 11:52 PM)
I am using i5-6500 and GTX1060 6GB currently and is satisfied with the gaming gear. Just would like to explore an additional optimal budget streaming PC since streaming on 1 PC gives input delay/lag when playing.

I think I'm using the old PSU/RAM/harddrive (previously had to change mobo, CPU and graphics when intended to upgrade the graphics). Thankful for your input
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Maybe check out this page for some ideas: http://www.logicalincrements.com/articles/streaming

But 1-2k budget kinda hard to stream smoothly
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post Sep 5 2018, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(donavan1986 @ Sep 5 2018, 07:52 AM)
Hi guys, how much is it for a 250gb M.2 PCIE SSD now? I am looking into option whether i should take it or not.
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You could make your comparisons at the various shops or even doing a search on Lazada/Shopee, etc. That would be faster than asking here smile.gif


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post Sep 5 2018, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(jiant @ Sep 5 2018, 08:07 AM)
Thank you. I see the thermal paste..
But beside the paste at the heatsink got scratched and some  dirty on it. (besides the 3 line) thermal paste.. Is it normal?
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Dont mind the scratches... it is a paste. Remove all the dirt that you can. If in doubt, wipe all off and apply your own trusted product.
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post Sep 5 2018, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(jiant @ Sep 5 2018, 12:19 PM)
How? Can I clean it with thinner or turpentine?
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Wipe with tissue paper.

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