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Kristal.S
post Jul 14 2018, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(hpares @ Jul 14 2018, 07:37 PM)
Sifu, plan to buy very soon but some question again.
CPU: INTEL CORE I5-8400 RM 733.00 - should i stretch abit to 8600k? Worth?
MOBO: GIGABYTE B360M AORUS GAMING 3 RM 380.00 - getting this, but in event i plan to get 8600k or i 7 8700, can use also right?
RAM: G.SKILL AEGIS SERIES 8GB DDR4 2400MHZ RM 389.00 - Any reason not to go for 2666mhz? It seems cheaper but higher speed ( hyper X performance ram)
SSD: GALAX GAMER SSD L 240GB RM 269.00 - Rushed and bought sandisk same capacity but at rm 170 @ shopee ><( might get another 480 in future)
HDD: WD BLUE 1TB RM 190.00 - getting 2TB instead
CASE: TECWARE NEXUS M RM 149.00 -  thumbup.gif
GPU - adding budget 2K for this. GTX 1070 TI from galax or palit seems able to fit in the budget. Any reason not getting these brand? Because rest of the brand kinda like 2.3k ish. Or should i go Ryzen instead?
PSU: EVGA 500BV 80+ BRONZE RM 219.00 - Dilemma here. Is it enough power if i get i7 or it 8600k, 2SSD instead of one, and additional of GTX 1070 ti? Cooler master 550w bronze seems to be around this budget too. Any advantages if i go for EVGA?

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should i stretch abit to 8600k? Worth?
- If you plan to OC, then yeah 8600k will be worth it. But keep in mind that unlocked processors means you gotta splurge more for a cooler as well. You will require a decent cooler to keep it cool if you want to OC. smile.gif

getting this, but in event i plan to get 8600k or i 7 8700, can use also right?
- If you're going for 8600k, you will have to pair it with Z series mobo as only Z series mobo allows OC. H/B series mobo can't OC. But if i7 8700 then yes, can use this also.

Any reason not to go for 2666mhz? It seems cheaper but higher speed ( hyper X performance ram)
- You can go for 2,666mhz but don't go any higher if you're getting that mobo as H/B mobo only supports up to 2,666mhz. If getting Z series, then can go even higher like 3,200mhz.

Rushed and bought sandisk same capacity but at rm 170 @ shopee ><( might get another 480 in future)
- This is just a reference. If you find better deals else where by all means go ahead! Haha

getting 2TB instead
- Nice!

GPU - adding budget 2K for this. GTX 1070 TI from galax or palit seems able to fit in the budget. Any reason not getting these brand? Because rest of the brand kinda like 2.3k ish. Or should i go Ryzen instead?
- Nvidia cards still gives better performance in terms of FPS and they are more value for the money as of now. No reasons not to go for these brands. In fact, I am also using a Galax and I am more than happy with it. Of course there are many models for every brand, some may be okay, some may be better.

PSU: EVGA 500BV 80+ BRONZE RM 219.00 - Dilemma here. Is it enough power if i get i7 or it 8600k, 2SSD instead of one, and additional of GTX 1070 ti? Cooler master 550w bronze seems to be around this budget too. Any advantages if i go for EVGA?
- No advantages/disadvantages as 1070ti minimum requirement is 500w and it is enough even if you go with 8600k. However, I personally like better grade PSU for lower noise and it cools better. If you can add maybe RM100-RM200 more for PSU, do consider these:

SUPER FLOWER 550W LEADEX 80+ SILVER RM 301.00
FSP 550W HYDRO GE 80+ GOLD RM 349.00
SUPER FLOWER 650W LEADEX II 80+ GOLD RM 414.00

This post has been edited by Kristal.S: Jul 14 2018, 08:04 PM
alwy11
post Jul 14 2018, 08:46 PM

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Hi all, I have shortlisted the two, Intel and AMD build below but would appreciate your advice or recommendations. Usage would mainly be web surfing, streaming and will start on light gaming such as FIFA or CS GO. Haven't played much new games with my old 2011 PC so not sure what is around.

Intel - Viewnet pricing - RM 2058/2094 (depending on Mobo)
CPU: Intel I5 8400 709
Mobo: Asus H310M-K Prime 275 or Gigabyte H310M-S2 239
RAM: Crucial D4 2133/ 2400 8GB 329
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 159
SSD: Crucial MX500 - 250GB 299
PSU: Corsair VS series - 450w 154
Casing: Thermaltake Versa H24 169

AMD -Viewnet pricing - RM2060
CPU: AMD RYZEN 5 2400G 682
Mobo: MSI A320M PRO-VH PLUS 268
RAM: Crucial D4 2133/ 2400 8GB 329
HDD: SSeagate Barracuda 159
SSD: Crucial MX500 - 250GB 299
PSU: Corsair VS series - 450w 154
Casing: Thermaltake Versa H24 169

I was also browsing through Etech's price list however, opted for Viewnet due to lower HDD, SDD and RAM pricing/ product availability to save cost.

Can any of the sifus advise which build I should go for, being a light gamer? Both above are without a dedicated GPU but should be sufficient I guess, please correct me if I'm wrong. Might also get a GPU such as GTX1050 o its equivalent of AMD GPU next year only if necessary.

Thanks

This post has been edited by alwy11: Jul 14 2018, 09:18 PM
ForlornBrat
post Jul 14 2018, 09:18 PM

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[B][Budget] RM3K

[Purpose] Mainly to play PUBG on Steam and overwatch

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, keyboard, mouse, speaker

[Monitor resolution] Acer ET241Y (1080p) - 23.8"

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Steam, Android simulator, Google Chrome

[Personal preferences] A desktop that can last me longer, 240gb SSD + HDD. Don't mind slightly higher than RM3K

[Location] KL
lionellex
post Jul 14 2018, 10:09 PM

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[Budget] RM3K

[Purpose] Mainly to play PUBG (preferable 60fps or higher) and simple video editing (rendering)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, keyboard, mouse, speaker

[Monitor resolution] (1080p)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Steam, Android simulator, Google Chrome, Sony Vegas

[Personal preferences] 240gb SSD + 1TB HDD. Don't mind slightly higher than RM3K

[Location] KL, Penang.

This post has been edited by lionellex: Jul 15 2018, 05:31 AM
hpares
post Jul 14 2018, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ Jul 14 2018, 08:01 PM)
should i stretch abit to 8600k? Worth?
- If you plan to OC, then yeah 8600k will be worth it. But keep in mind that unlocked processors means you gotta splurge more for a cooler as well. You will require a decent cooler to keep it cool if you want to OC. smile.gif

getting this, but in event i plan to get 8600k or i 7 8700, can use also right?
- If you're going for 8600k, you will have to pair it with Z series mobo as only Z series mobo allows OC. H/B series mobo can't OC. But if i7 8700 then yes, can use this also.

Any reason not to go for 2666mhz? It seems cheaper but higher speed ( hyper X performance ram)
- You can go for 2,666mhz but don't go any higher if you're getting that mobo as H/B mobo only supports up to 2,666mhz. If getting Z series, then can go even higher like 3,200mhz.

Rushed and bought sandisk same capacity but at rm 170 @ shopee ><( might get another 480 in future)
- This is just a reference. If you find better deals else where by all means go ahead! Haha

getting 2TB instead
- Nice!

GPU - adding budget 2K for this. GTX 1070 TI from galax or palit seems able to fit in the budget. Any reason not getting these brand? Because rest of the brand kinda like 2.3k ish. Or should i go Ryzen instead?
- Nvidia cards still gives better performance in terms of FPS and they are more value for the money as of now. No reasons not to go for these brands. In fact, I am also using a Galax and I am more than happy with it. Of course there are many models for every brand, some may be okay, some may be better.

PSU: EVGA 500BV 80+ BRONZE RM 219.00 - Dilemma here. Is it enough power if i get i7 or it 8600k, 2SSD instead of one, and additional of GTX 1070 ti? Cooler master 550w bronze seems to be around this budget too. Any advantages if i go for EVGA?
- No advantages/disadvantages as 1070ti minimum requirement is 500w and it is enough even if you go with 8600k. However, I personally like better grade PSU for lower noise and it cools better. If you can add maybe RM100-RM200 more for PSU, do consider these:

SUPER FLOWER 550W LEADEX 80+ SILVER RM 301.00
FSP 550W HYDRO GE 80+ GOLD RM 349.00
SUPER FLOWER 650W LEADEX II 80+ GOLD RM 414.00
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I think my choice down to these 2. Need a bit more advice.

NO OC ( RM2234)
CPU: INTEL CORE I5-8400 RM 709.00
MOBO: GIGABYTE B360M AORUS GAMING 3 RM 359.00
RAM: KINGSTON HYPER X DDR4 8GB 2666MHZ RM335
SSD: SANDISK SSD PLUS 240GB RM170
HDD: WD BLUE 2TB RM 230.00
CASE: TECWARE NEXUS M RM 130.00 -
GPU - 2k budget pending choice 1070ti or gtx 11 series
PSU: SUPER FLOWER 550W LEADEX 80+ SILVER RM 301.00


With OC ( RM2699) adding rm466 for future gaming proof
CPU: INTEL CORE I5-8600K RM 1000.00
MOBO: GIGABYTE z370M DS3H 479 or D3H 529 ( which better? Aorus one is too expensive, and what is Aorus anyway?)
RAM: KINGSTON HYPER X DDR4 8GB 3200MHZ RM389
SSD: SANDISK SSD PLUS 240GB RM170
HDD: WD BLUE 2TB RM 230.00
CASE: TECWARE NEXUS M RM 130.00 - Should i go for different casing for overclocking purpose?
GPU - 2k budget pending choice 1070ti or gtx 11 series
PSU: SUPER FLOWER 550W LEADEX 80+ SILVER RM 301.00 ( If OC need to upgrade this too? )

I might consider Ryzen 2 2600X since it just launch and able to overclock. Beside the mobo, the rest can use back the same right? Never has an amd proc before, kinda wanted on despite lower performance in game.. Wondering how much different if i buy before sst and after sst comes back.
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This post has been edited by hpares: Jul 15 2018, 02:17 AM
Kristal.S
post Jul 15 2018, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(alwy11 @ Jul 14 2018, 08:46 PM)
Hi all, I have shortlisted the two, Intel and AMD build below but would appreciate your advice or recommendations. Usage would mainly be web surfing, streaming and will start on light gaming such as FIFA or CS GO. Haven't played much new games with my old 2011 PC so not sure what is around.

Intel - Viewnet pricing - RM 2058/2094 (depending on Mobo)
CPU: Intel I5 8400  709
Mobo: Asus H310M-K Prime  275 or Gigabyte H310M-S2  239
RAM: Crucial D4 2133/ 2400 8GB  329
HDD: Seagate Barracuda  159
SSD: Crucial MX500 - 250GB  299
PSU: Corsair VS series - 450w  154
Casing: Thermaltake Versa H24 169

AMD -Viewnet pricing - RM2060
CPU: AMD RYZEN 5 2400G 682
Mobo: MSI A320M PRO-VH PLUS 268
RAM: Crucial D4 2133/ 2400 8GB 329
HDD: SSeagate Barracuda 159
SSD: Crucial MX500 - 250GB  299
PSU: Corsair VS series - 450w 154
Casing: Thermaltake Versa H24 169

I was also browsing through Etech's price list however, opted for Viewnet due to lower HDD, SDD and RAM pricing/ product availability to save cost.

Can any of the sifus advise which build I should go for, being a light gamer? Both above are without a dedicated GPU but should be sufficient I guess, please correct me if I'm wrong. Might also get a GPU such as GTX1050 o its equivalent of AMD GPU next year only if necessary.

Thanks
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In your case, the AMD build would be more ideal as it is a 4C/8T processor for your daily web surfing and streaming. Also, 2400G is capable of playing CS:GO without a dedicated GPU at low-medium settings and it may not be necessary to get a dedicated GPU if you're a really really light gamer.
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post Jul 15 2018, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(ForlornBrat @ Jul 14 2018, 09:18 PM)
[b][Budget] RM3K

[Purpose] Mainly to play PUBG on Steam and overwatch

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, keyboard, mouse, speaker

[Monitor resolution] Acer ET241Y (1080p) - 23.8"

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Steam, Android simulator, Google Chrome

[Personal preferences] A desktop that can last me longer, 240gb SSD + HDD. Don't mind slightly higher than RM3K

[Location] KL
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CPU: CORE I5 8400 (6C/6T) 719
MOBO: GIGABYTE B360M AORUS GAMING 3 359
RAM: CRUCIAL D4 PC2400 8GB 330
GPU: GALAX GTX1060 6G EXOC 1199
SSD: PNY CS900 240GB 215
HDD: SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB 158
PSU: SUPER FLOWER LEADEX SILVER 550W 299
CASE: TECWARE NEXUS TG MATX 139

TOTAL: RM3,418 (Czone prices)

If want lower price build, switch to these:

ASUS PRIME H310M-K M 275
CORSAIR VS450 159

This post has been edited by Kristal.S: Jul 15 2018, 11:33 AM
Kristal.S
post Jul 15 2018, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(lionellex @ Jul 14 2018, 10:09 PM)
[Budget] RM3K

[Purpose] Mainly to play PUBG (preferable 60fps or higher) and simple video editing (rendering)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, keyboard, mouse, speaker

[Monitor resolution] (1080p)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Steam, Android simulator, Google Chrome, Sony Vegas

[Personal preferences] 240gb SSD + 1TB HDD. Don't mind slightly higher than RM3K

[Location] KL, Penang.
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CPU: CORE I5 8400 (6C/6T) 719
MOBO: GIGABYTE B360M AORUS GAMING 3 359
RAM: CRUCIAL D4 PC2400 8GB 330
GPU: GALAX GTX1060 6G EXOC 1199
SSD: PNY CS900 240GB 215
HDD: SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB 158
PSU: SUPER FLOWER LEADEX SILVER 550W 299
CASE: TECWARE NEXUS TG MATX 139

TOTAL: RM3,418 (Czone prices)

If want lower price build, switch to these:

ASUS PRIME H310M-K M 275
CORSAIR VS450 159
Kristal.S
post Jul 15 2018, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(hpares @ Jul 14 2018, 11:51 PM)
I think my choice down to these 2. Need a bit more advice.

NO OC ( RM2234)
CPU: INTEL CORE I5-8400 RM 709.00
MOBO: GIGABYTE B360M AORUS GAMING 3 RM 359.00
RAM: KINGSTON HYPER X DDR4 8GB 2666MHZ RM335
SSD: SANDISK SSD PLUS 240GB RM170
HDD: WD BLUE 2TB RM 230.00
CASE: TECWARE NEXUS M RM 130.00 - 
GPU - 2k budget pending choice 1070ti or gtx 11 series
PSU: SUPER FLOWER 550W LEADEX 80+ SILVER RM 301.00
With OC ( RM2699) adding rm466 for future gaming proof
CPU: INTEL CORE I5-8600K RM 1000.00
MOBO: GIGABYTE z370M DS3H 479 or D3H 529 ( which better? Aorus one is too expensive, and what is Aorus anyway?) The both are more or less the same. Make sure to search them up individually and look at the features that you're after (e.g no. of usb ports, m.2 slot, and such) Aorus is just premium model that has better aesthetics and components. Like Samsung S9 vs Samsung J9
RAM: KINGSTON HYPER X DDR4 8GB 3200MHZ RM389
SSD: SANDISK SSD PLUS 240GB RM170
HDD: WD BLUE 2TB RM 230.00
CASE: TECWARE NEXUS M RM 130.00 - Should i go for different casing for overclocking purpose? You can consider Nexus Neo for a better airflow
GPU - 2k budget pending choice 1070ti or gtx 11 series
PSU: SUPER FLOWER 550W LEADEX 80+ SILVER RM 301.00 ( If OC need to upgrade this too? ) No need, this is good enough

I might consider Ryzen 2 2600X since it just launch and able to overclock. Beside the mobo, the rest can use back the same right? Never has an amd proc before, kinda wanted on despite lower performance in game.. Wondering how much different if i buy before sst and after sst comes back.
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Your OC build doesn't have a cooler which you will need. Thats another roughly RM300+-. Ryzen 2 2600x will be a good one for its value as it has 6C/12T and yes the rest can use back the same.
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post Jul 15 2018, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ Jul 15 2018, 11:43 AM)
Your OC build doesn't have a cooler which you will need. Thats another roughly RM300+-. Ryzen 2 2600x will be a good one for its value as it has 6C/12T and yes the rest can use back the same.
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Okie thx sifu. notworthy.gif . Going with no OC version.
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post Yesterday, 07:09 PM

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Hi guys, been long time since last upgrade to new PC, so need some advice on getting new rig. I would like to get a Ryzen build.

[Budget]
Roughly below Rm3K. Need new PSU, RAM, motherboard and graphic card

[Purpose]
Surfing internet, office work, social media, minor video editing for youtube, occasional gaming (preferably still able to play latest games such as GTA V, PUBG etc.)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Intel 540s 240gb, WD blue 1tb, WD green 1tb, samsung HDDs 1tb, CM690III

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
MS office, windows 10, drug lord, CS source, L4D2

[Personal preferences]
Asus motherboards
EVGA PSU
MSI or Asus graphic card
AM4 build

[Location]
Kuala Lumpur
Kristal.S
post Yesterday, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Jul 16 2018, 07:09 PM)
Hi guys, been long time since last upgrade to new PC, so need some advice on getting new rig. I would like to get a Ryzen build.

[Budget]
Roughly below Rm3K. Need new PSU, RAM, motherboard and graphic card

[Purpose]
Surfing internet, office work, social media, minor video editing for youtube, occasional gaming (preferably still able to play latest games such as GTA V, PUBG etc.)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Intel 540s 240gb, WD blue 1tb, WD green 1tb, samsung HDDs 1tb, CM690III

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
MS office, windows 10, drug lord, CS source, L4D2

[Personal preferences]
Asus motherboards
EVGA PSU
MSI or Asus graphic card
AM4 build

[Location]
Kuala Lumpur
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What about these:

CPU: AMD RYZEN 5 2600 RM 848.00
MOBO: ASUS PRIME B350M-A RM 355.00
RAM: G.SKILL FORTIS SERIES 8GB DDR4 2400MHZ RM 339.00
GPU: ASUS GTX 1060 DUAL OC 6GB GDDR5 RM 1,248.00
PSU: EVGA 500W 500BV 80+ BRONZE RM 209.00

RM2,999 (E Tech prices)

This post has been edited by Kristal.S: Yesterday, 07:25 PM
alwy11
post Yesterday, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ Jul 15 2018, 11:20 AM)
In your case, the AMD build would be more ideal as it is a 4C/8T processor for your daily web surfing and streaming. Also, 2400G is capable of playing CS:GO without a dedicated GPU at low-medium settings and it may not be necessary to get a dedicated GPU if you're a really really light gamer.
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Thanks for your input, Kristal.S. Much appreciated. Have bought the AMD build as advised.
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post Yesterday, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(alwy11 @ Jul 16 2018, 09:03 PM)
Thanks for your input, Kristal.S. Much appreciated. Have bought the AMD build as advised.
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My pleasure. All the best! biggrin.gif
ssxxcool
post Today, 03:29 AM

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Hi sifu, im looking to buy a PSU and a new case but not sure which one to pick

[Budget] rm500++

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

i7-8700
gtx1070
ssd 3x
hdd 1x
mobo
wifi card
monitor

[Personal preferences] fully modular PSU, and a pc chasis that have a good airflow and can fit a cryorig h7 cpu cooler

[Location] KL

thank you

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